PDA

View Full Version : Judge Napolitano talks about Barry's birth certificate on his Facebook page




qh4dotcom
04-23-2012, 12:16 PM
It's not the Barry you might be thinking of (Barack Obama) whose birth certificate Judge Napolitano talked about....instead he was talking about Marion Barry's birth certificate. I wonder when the Judge will start doing his job and asking questions about Obama's birth certificate...after all he took the oath to defend the Constitution's natural born citizen requirements.



Why has no one yet checked Mr. Barry's birth certificate to see if he was born on this planet? http://bit.ly/JAghDy

http://www.facebook.com/JudgeNapolitano (4/23/2012 post at about 1pm)

PierzStyx
04-23-2012, 01:20 PM
If you don't think the Judge is "doing his job" to support The Constitution, you obviously know nothing about him.

Zippyjuan
04-23-2012, 01:33 PM
Napalitano on the issue:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201104280047

One Night After Fox Business' Birther-Palooza, Napolitano Slams Birtherism As "The Politics Of Personal Destruction"

April 28, 2011 11:37 pm ET by Karen Famighetti


Tonight on his Fox Business show, Freedom Watch, Andrew Napolitano said that President Obama releasing his long-form birth certificate closed "a particularly ugly chapter in the politics of personal destruction." Fox News political analyst Kirsten Powers mocked birthers who are "claiming that [the birth certificate] was Photoshopped," saying that "you can't reason with people who believe this kind of stuff."

qh4dotcom
04-23-2012, 01:37 PM
Napalitano on the issue:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201104280047

Since the Judge is such an expert on the Constitution someone needs to ask him what the founding fathers meant by "natural born citizen" and why that requirement was put into the Constitution. Someone born in this country? Someone born in this country to TWO CITIZEN PARENTS?

Zippyjuan
04-23-2012, 01:51 PM
Since the Judge is such an expert on the Constitution someone needs to ask him what the founding fathers meant by "natural born citizen" and why that requirement was put into the Constitution. Someone born in this country? Someone born in this country to TWO CITIZEN PARENTS?

I invite you to show us where in the Constitution it says that to be a "natural born citizen" that both parents must be US citizens.

The Constitution uses two phrases describing citizenship- members of the House and Senate must be "citizens" and the President must be a Natural Born citizen. It says nothing about needing two citizen parents to qualify as Natural Born (please find the section if it is there). Citizenship can be achieved one of two ways (not three). The first is to be born one by being born in the US (as Obama was- in Hawaii which was a state at the time of his birth). The second is to be born someplace else and become naturalized or made into a citizen (made in to a citizen- not naturally born into it).

The Fourteenth Amendment describes the two:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

US laws have further defined it:
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
•Anyone born inside the United States *
•Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
•Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
•Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
•Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
•A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

qh4dotcom
04-23-2012, 01:58 PM
The Fourteenth amendment and Title 8 of the U.S. Code did not repeal nor define the natural born citizen clause. What counts is the 1787 definition of natural born citizen...not some law that was passed after that.

Also if "being born inside the United States" made one eligible to run for president and the citizenship of the parents didn't matter, then the child of illegal immigrants born in the US would be eligible to run for president.

mport1
04-23-2012, 02:16 PM
Who cares where the guy was born?

bolil
04-23-2012, 02:19 PM
The Fourteenth amendment and Title 8 of the U.S. Code did not repeal nor define the natural born citizen clause. What counts is the 1787 definition of natural born citizen...not some law that was passed after that.

Also if "being born inside the United States" made one eligible to run for president and the citizenship of the parents didn't matter, then the child of illegal immigrants born in the US would be eligible to run for president.

Don't give them applicable ideas... Wouldn't that ticket do well... the American Dream anthropomorphized.

jkr
04-23-2012, 02:55 PM
Who cares where the guy was born?
his supream court justices...

Zippyjuan
04-23-2012, 06:53 PM
The Fourteenth amendment and Title 8 of the U.S. Code did not repeal nor define the natural born citizen clause. What counts is the 1787 definition of natural born citizen...not some law that was passed after that.

Also if "being born inside the United States" made one eligible to run for president and the citizenship of the parents didn't matter, then the child of illegal immigrants born in the US would be eligible to run for president.

Show me where this is located in the US Constitution or the US law from 1787 giving that definition.

qh4dotcom
04-23-2012, 07:43 PM
Show me where this is located in the US Constitution or the US law from 1787 giving that definition.

The Constitution does not define the term "natural born citizen"...and neither does the Fourteenth amendment nor Title 8 of the U.S. Code.

Also if "being born inside the United States" makes someone eligible to run for president according to the Fourteenth amendment or Title 8 of the U.S. Code that you mentioned and the citizenship of the parents doesn't matter, then the child of illegal immigrants born in the US would be eligible to run for president.

azxd
04-24-2012, 08:08 AM
Who cares where the guy was born?People who believe in the rule of law ... And perhaps this nation.

To not care means one might someday vote for Putin's son.

azxd
04-24-2012, 08:10 AM
The Constitution does not define the term "natural born citizen"...and neither does the Fourteenth amendment nor Title 8 of the U.S. Code.

Also if "being born inside the United States" makes someone eligible to run for president according to the Fourteenth amendment or Title 8 of the U.S. Code that you mentioned and the citizenship of the parents doesn't matter, then the child of illegal immigrants born in the US would be eligible to run for president.Face facts ... Few really care about upholding the Constitution.
They want rock stars, and could care less what the result brings.