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mike6623
04-22-2012, 09:07 AM
Been trying to keep up, but have been confused...not to mention to news about it either!

sailingaway
04-22-2012, 09:14 AM
Colorado was the first of the caucus states to have a state convention and a Ron and Santorum slate took plurality and knocked out and replaced the national delegation chair to the RNC and got a bunch of RNC committee spots, but it wasn't a win unless Santorum folks vote for Ron with us at convention (Ron alone got 12 delegates, Romney 13, Santorum something like 7, etc.)

MN Ron just won last night, since he has half of all the delegates in the state by getting 20 out of 24 of the cd district delegates. there are only 16 more, 13 to be awarded at state, and three at large. Even if he gets no more, he has 20 and the other 20 are split, so he has plurality. However, we want majority. But we are expected to do well at state too, which really boosts Ron's endorsed Senate candidate since state convention will also vote who the party endorses for Senate in MN.

Ron won the Virgin Island popular vote but there ROMNEY got delegates (it looks like we had too many running and our guys' votes were split). but if you are looking at delegates, we are just getting started. Ron's supporters just swept most leadership positions in the Iowa GOP too.

We have to get the word about MN out before Tuesday's primaries. Media is reporting that Romney got 'half' the delegates awarded in MO last night, but that doesn't give him a plurality in the state, that will still be determined at the state convention. And no one is reporting that Ron just won Minnesota.

On top of that, as people drop out in states that supported Santa and Gingrich there is opportunity for us to pick up many of those delegates, if they are chosen by conventions, even in primary states.

SneakyFrenchSpy
04-22-2012, 09:18 AM
Still a total Press blackout on yesterday's delegates victories in Minnesota. Where are Politico & The Hill those bastions of journalistic integrity? :rolleyes:

PaulSoHard
04-22-2012, 09:51 AM
Can't forget Fox's 'Fair and Balanced' Motto!

Titus
04-22-2012, 10:05 AM
Fox actually covered a school's attempt to censor a student who favored Ron Paul. It was on Stossel though.

kathy88
04-22-2012, 10:06 AM
Where's Maddow? She thrives on the GOP eating their young...

presence
04-22-2012, 10:54 AM
Still a total Press blackout on yesterday's delegates victories in Minnesota. Where are Politico & The Hill those bastions of journalistic integrity? :rolleyes:

It made local news:

http://www.piercecountyherald.com/event/article/id/44707/

sailingaway
04-22-2012, 10:56 AM
Fox actually covered a school's attempt to censor a student who favored Ron Paul. It was on Stossel though.

stossel is their 'more manageable' 'libertarian alternative' to freedom watch. Stossel doesn't stand up to pressure as the Judge does. It is like Ron being on Cavuto. It doesn't get the 'other' people who watch Fox.

tbone717
04-22-2012, 10:57 AM
Been trying to keep up, but have been confused...not to mention to news about it either!

The Green Papers is one of the better resources for info. They have two lists that are good to refer to:

Hard & Soft Delegate count - http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R-HS.phtml
Pledged & Unpledged count - http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R-PU.phtml

sailingaway
04-22-2012, 11:00 AM
The Green Papers is one of the better resources for info. They have two lists that are good to refer to:

Hard & Soft Delegate count - http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R-HS.phtml
Pledged & Unpledged count - http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R-PU.phtml

they are still estimates. And look at MN for instance.

tbone717
04-22-2012, 11:04 AM
they are still estimates. And look at MN for instance.

In all honesty the hard count (i.e. bound delegates) is what matters the most. Unbound delegates, while they may pledge support for a candidate, can change their vote at the RNC.

Greenpapers will likely update on Monday morning. Their updates lag a little on the weekend.

The Northbreather
04-22-2012, 12:06 PM
MN Ron just won last night, since he has half of all the delegates in the state by getting 20 out of 24 of the cd district delegates. there are only 16 more, 13 to be awarded at state, and three at large. Even if he gets no more, he has 20 and the other 20 are split, so he has plurality. However, we want majority. But we are expected to do well at state too, which really boosts Ron's endorsed Senate candidate since state convention will also vote who the party endorses for Senate in MN.


We have to get the word about MN out before Tuesday's primaries. Media is reporting that Romney got 'half' the delegates awarded in MO last night, but that doesn't give him a plurality in the state, that will still be determined at the state convention. And no one is reporting that Ron just won Minnesota.

Lets hit all the comments today on these stories. Already replaced "Romney wins MO" with "RON wins MN!!" in a few.