Did VA just nullify the NDAA?

[Matt Collins]

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/04/18/new-law-virginia-will-not-cooperate-with-ndaa-detention/

[Aratus]

lets hope so...

[Kylie]

That is fantastic. I hope to see more states do the same!

[Aratus]

if they do, then lets thank the legislature of auld virginny
for getting us george mason's brainfreeze back in full. we
all do run the risk of being a tinhorn dictatorship otherwise.

[pcosmar]

So,,
Exactly what was amended to get his approval?

[cjm]

So,,
Exactly what was amended to get his approval?

Looks like the governor changed
"no agency ....shall aid an agency of the armed forces of the United States in the detention..."
to
"no agency ....shall knowingly aid an agency of the armed forces of the United States in the detention..."
(my emphasis)

and then he added all this to the bottom:

"The provisions of this section shall not apply to participation by state or local law enforcement or Virginia National Guard or Virginia Defense Force in joint task forces, partnerships, or other similar cooperative agreements with federal law enforcement as long as they are not for the purpose of participating in such detentions under § 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012."

Color me cynical, but I imagine that every agent or officer of the Commonwealth is, or will shortly be, "in joint task forces, partnerships, or other similar cooperative agreements with federal law enforcement" which are "not for the purpose of participating in such detentions under § 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012."

[sailingaway]

What about fiscal year 2013?

[FrancisMarion]

What about fiscal year 2013?

Was just wondering the same thing. Here is the provision in full: http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?121+ful+HB1160H2

[gerryb]

The man responsible for it is running for US Senate

http://bobmarshall2012.com/

[messana]

The man responsible for it is running for US Senate

http://bobmarshall2012.com/

Issues are a bunch of fluff.

[cjm]

What about fiscal year 2013?

The NDAA for FY 2013 hasn't been written/voted on yet. NDAA for FY 2012 has the indefinite detention stuff in it.

[Reason]

Looks like the governor changed
"no agency ....shall aid an agency of the armed forces of the United States in the detention..."
to
"no agency ....shall knowingly aid an agency of the armed forces of the United States in the detention..."
(my emphasis)

and then he added all this to the bottom:

"The provisions of this section shall not apply to participation by state or local law enforcement or Virginia National Guard or Virginia Defense Force in joint task forces, partnerships, or other similar cooperative agreements with federal law enforcement as long as they are not for the purpose of participating in such detentions under § 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012."

Color me cynical, but I imagine that every agent or officer of the Commonwealth is, or will shortly be, "in joint task forces, partnerships, or other similar cooperative agreements with federal law enforcement" which are "not for the purpose of participating in such detentions under § 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012."

The governor nullified the nullification.

[Aden]

Issues are a bunch of fluff.

This guy is the real deal. I doubt anyone on RPF who is from Virginia will say otherwise.

[csu1987]

What if via a ballot initiative people in a state voted to ban the patriot act, ndaa, etc, and anyone enforcing it would be liable to arrest by any law enforcement agency..... Would it stand? Or would the fed govt say, "nope, too bad".