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Lucille
04-20-2012, 03:35 PM
NSA Whistleblower Speaks Live: "The Government Is Lying To You" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/nsa-whistleblower-speaks-live-government-lying-you)


Just a month ago we raised more than a proverbial eyebrow when we noted the creation of the NSA's Utah Data Center (codename Stellar Wind) and William Binney's formidable statement that "we are this far from a turnkey totalitarian state". Democracy Now has the former National Security Agency technical director whistleblower's first TV interview in which he discusses the NSA's massive power to spy on Americans and why the FBI raided his home. Since retiring from the NSA in 2001, he has warned that the NSA’s data-mining program has become so vast that it could "create an Orwellian state." Today marks the first time Binney has spoken on national TV about NSA surveillance. Starting with his pre-9-11 identification of the world-wide-web as a voluminous problem since the NSA was 'falling behind the rate-of-change', his success in creating a system (codenamed Thin-Thread) for 'grabbing' all the data and the critical 'lawful' anonymization of that data (according to mandate at the time) which as soon as 9-11 occurred went out of the window as all domestic and foreign communications was now stored (starting with AT&T's forking over their data). This direct violation of the constitutional rights of everybody in the country was why Binney decided he could not stay (leaving one month after 9-11) along with the violation of almost every privacy and intelligence act as near-bottomless databases store all forms of communication collected by the agency, including private emails, cell phone calls, Google searches and other personal data.

There was a time when Americans still cared about matters such as personal privacy. Luckily, they now have iGadgets to keep them distracted as they hand over their last pieces of individuality to the Tzar of conformity.
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Part 4 - Whistleblower: The NSA is Lying–U.S. Government Has Copies of Most of Your Emails

National Security Agency whistleblower

William Binney reveals he believes domestic surveillance has become more expansive under President Obama than President George W. Bush. He estimates the NSA has assembled 20 trillion "transactions" — phone calls, emails and other forms of data — from Americans. This likely includes copies of almost all of the emails sent and received from most people living in the United States. Binney talks about Section 215 of the USA PATRIOT Act and challenges NSA Director Keith Alexander’s assertion that the NSA is not intercepting information about U.S. Citizens.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=hfS2Op9l3nk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=hfS2Op9l3nk

Brian4Liberty
04-20-2012, 04:31 PM
Now how could one efficiently search all of that data? Perhaps a well known search company could help out.

DamianTV
04-20-2012, 04:55 PM
"Tzar of conformity"

Thats a new term we will probably be hearing a lot of in the near future.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
04-20-2012, 05:02 PM
Now how could one efficiently search all of that data? Perhaps a well known search company could help out.


Yeah, like one that has an indefinite data retention policy.

LibForestPaul
04-20-2012, 05:30 PM
The government is utilizing far more than google. Actually, they are trying to analyse (and probably construct) build web of influences. Who talks to whom the most? What websites are visited in which order by whom? How quickly does a particular government message, say from Fox News, results in queries online to which websites? And likely, how to manipulate these chains of influences. Since MSM is dead, their power of influence was decreasing. No longer could propaganda be force fed to drooling mundanes.

DamianTV
04-20-2012, 05:47 PM
Hence why all the efforts to pass SOPA, and worse, the Bills that come after some form of a SOPA Bill is finally passed. "Government shall have the right to go in and delete what they consider to be "inappropriate messages" on ANY website." Oh no, we wouldnt dare go after free speech, but we will make sure on one else can HEAR what you said.

J_White
04-21-2012, 11:33 PM
See it to believe it.
It is downright scary !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfS2Op9l3nk

frickettz
04-21-2012, 11:55 PM
I saw this too, there's about an hour of footage total for this interview on their website... he's a former NSA official too.. Scary is right.

mport1
04-22-2012, 12:19 AM
We need more whistle blowers like this guy. Hopefully the government's treatment of Bradley Manning hasn't discouraged others from leaking government info. They have definitely tried to make an example out of him.

Indy Vidual
04-22-2012, 12:06 PM
See it to believe it.
It is downright scary !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfS2Op9l3nk

:eek:
Made it through 9 minutes...
RIP American Freedom

Dark_Horse_Rider
04-22-2012, 03:47 PM
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Lucille
04-23-2012, 10:31 AM
Raimondo: Is America a Free Country? (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/04/22/is-america-a-free-country/)


The “war on terrorism” has inaugurated a new era in the American polity, a sea-change that has not only threatened to overturn traditional limits on government power but also corrupted the political culture – and opened the way to the terminal crisis of the Constitution.

In a revealing series of interviews on Amy Goodman’s “Democracy Now” program, three individuals targeted by the American surveillance state – William Binney, former top NSA official, Jacob Applebaum, an internet security specialist who works with WikiLeaks, and Laura Poitras, an Oscar-nominated documentary film-maker whose work has brought her to the attention of US authorities and led to her harassment by US government agents – give compelling evidence that the answer to the question in the title of this piece is clearly an emphatic no.
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This is a question I needn’t ask myself, for the simple reason that I was never a supporter of the President, and am an unlikely candidate for membership in the Obama cult. My political views might be described as somewhat to the “right” of Ayn Rand, when it comes to domestic issues, and far to the “left” of Noam Chomsky when it comes to foreign policy. In short, I’m a libertarian, and so my jaundiced view of the President is not all that surprising. Yet even I am surprised by the deafening silence in the “liberal” community – and the lack of real anger on the left at Obama’s escalation of the war on our civil liberties. Leading “progressives” are apparently indifferent to this administration’s vindictive pursuit of “whistle-blowers” – insiders like Binney who cry foul at government abuses – and the lack of outrage is … outrageous.

I know it’s an election year, and partisanship is to be expected – but I would think that, as we descend into an authoritarian abyss from which there is no return, American liberals and “progressives” would consider it significant enough to declare a moratorium on partisanship and exert some pressure on their political leaders. Why is it left to us libertarians, and rare dissident liberals like Greenwald, to speak out against the accelerating encroachments of the National Security State?

I’ll tell you why: because the American left is dead, killed off by their support of a candidate who personified their turn to identity politics. The left’s undying allegiance to the President and his policies has sealed their rejection of the old-fashioned liberal anti-imperialist pro-civil libertarian stance, exemplified by The Nation when it was edited by Oswald Garrison Villard and which briefly resurfaced during the Vietnam era. Instead of going forward, American liberalism has retreated back to the era of FDR, when being on the “left” meant supporting not only the Welfare State but also calling for bigger and better ways to buttress the Warfare State. Modern liberals, like their ideological antecedents of the 1930s, disdain the Constitution as an archaic dead-letter that needs to be converted into a “living” document. What’s all this talk about the alleged sacredness of the Constitution, they grumble: it all sounds like so much “constitutional fundamentalism” to them. Democratic Rep. Mike Quigly of Illinois opines that such concepts as “free speech” and “due process of law” are so vague that they “don’t define themselves,” and are up for creative interpretation.

The neoconservatives who have taken over the conservative movement and the Republican party are certainly not going to jump into the breach and take up the cudgels on behalf of the Constitution. They only invoke it when it offers to upend the President’s economic and social initiatives, such as Obamacare, but when it comes to this administration’s assault on basic civil liberties they say “Faster, please!”

With the left co-opted, and the right pushing for an even more draconian crackdown on what is left of our constitutionally-protected rights, we are left with only Ron Paul holding up a copy of the Constitution and demanding its restoration...

Greenwald: Surveillance State evils (http://www.salon.com/2012/04/21/e_2/singleton/)
35 years ago, a leading liberal Senator issued a grave warning about allowing the NSA to spy domestically


Yesterday, Democracy Now had an extraordinary program devoted to America’s Surveillance State. The show had three guests, each of whose treatment by the U.S. Government reflects how invasive, dangerous and out-of-control America’s Surveillance State has become:
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JUAN GONZALEZ: And the differences in the [Bush and Obama] administrations?

WILLIAM BINNEY: Actually, I think the surveillance has increased. In fact, I would suggest that they’ve assembled on the order of 20 trillion transactions about U.S. citizens with other U.S. citizens.

AMY GOODMAN: How many?

WILLIAM BINNEY: Twenty trillion.

AMY GOODMAN: And you’re saying that this surveillance has increased? Not only the—

WILLIAM BINNEY: Yes.

AMY GOODMAN: —targeting of whistleblowers, like your colleagues, like people like Tom Drake, who are actually indicted under the Obama administration—

WILLIAM BINNEY: Right.

AMY GOODMAN: —more times—the number of people who have been indicted are more than all presidents combined in the past.

WILLIAM BINNEY: Right. And I think it’s to silence what’s going on. But the point is, the data that’s being assembled is about everybody. And from that data, then they can target anyone they want . . . That, by the way, estimate only was involving phone calls and emails. It didn’t involve any queries on the net or any assembles—other—any financial transactions or credit card stuff, if they’re assembling that. I do not know that, OK.

That sounds like a number so large as to be fantastical, but it’s entirely consistent with what The Washington Post, in its 2010 “Top Secret America” series, reported: “Every day, collection systems at the National Security Agency intercept and store 1.7 billion e-mails, phone calls and other types of communications.” Read that sentence again and I defy anyone to deny that the U.S. has become the type of full-fledged, limitless Surveillance State about which Sen. Church warned.

HOLLYWOOD
04-23-2012, 12:17 PM
yeah I watched that premiere and recorded it for the serf and mundane relatives to watch when they come over...

Did you hear the part about the the NSA use of data storage? Pre 9/11 was something like 20 terabytes an hour... now you know why NETAPP, IBM, DELL, EMC, HP, HDS, etc are doing well in government sales. ;)

Steve-in-NY
04-23-2012, 12:35 PM
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RickyJ
04-23-2012, 12:53 PM
The NSA is lying you say?

OK, is that suppose to be news to people?

The government and established media lie all the time!
It is part of their religion! "Thou shalt never tell the truth when it reveals you to be sick elite class bent on world domination!"

HOLLYWOOD
04-23-2012, 02:10 PM
2009: In Warrantless Wiretapping Case, Obama DOJ's New Arguments Are Worse Than Bush's https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush

http://www.eff.org/files/images/promos/nsa_front_obama2.jpg

bolil
04-23-2012, 02:12 PM
This seems like an appropriate place to relate this to you all. The following excerpt was taken from the book Propaganda by Jacques Ellul: ". . . if the ruler wants to play the game by himself and follow secret policies, he must present a decoy to the masses. He cannot escape the mass; but he can draw between himself and that mass an invisible curtain, a screen, on which the mass will see projected the mirage of some politics, while the real politics are being made behind it."