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Appalachia
04-17-2012, 08:37 PM
This YouTube is on the YouTube frontpage atm and it could use some support.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqWyu9z0eSk

DamianTV
04-17-2012, 08:41 PM
Funny, I heard the other day that Jesus was Murdered by the Banks of his time.

xkrazy201x
04-17-2012, 08:44 PM
Why would anyone want to support this video?

Appalachia
04-17-2012, 08:48 PM
To defend capitalism against socialists who are spamming comments like crazy. I don't really care much about the Jesus part myself though ;)

DamianTV
04-17-2012, 09:46 PM
We dont have Capitalism however. We have Facism. We have Socialism. We have Corporate Corrupionism. ANd what we dont have is what we need the most. A Free Market.

The Goat
04-17-2012, 09:55 PM
Jesus was a Voluntaryist.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/VforVoluntary_normal.svg/220px-VforVoluntary_normal.svg.png

xkrazy201x
04-17-2012, 10:00 PM
I don't support this video because of improper Biblical hermeneutics. Furthermore, if you really want to know the truth, the Bible supports socialism (ideologically at least).

Acts 4:32-35
32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

flynn
04-17-2012, 10:51 PM
Capitalism does not describe a free market. It is one of those words modern supply side economists find more difficult to explain each year. A better term would be free market, free enterprise system.

James Madison
04-17-2012, 11:11 PM
I don't support this video because of improper Biblical hermeneutics. Furthermore, if you really want to know the truth, the Bible supports socialism (ideologically at least).

Acts 4:32-35
32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

Jesus advocated voluntary wealth distribution. He certainly didn't support stealing money through taxation (theft) as a means to further the Kingdom. Doing so would only bring glory to the State and would elevate it above God.

MaxPower
04-17-2012, 11:29 PM
I don't support this video because of improper Biblical hermeneutics. Furthermore, if you really want to know the truth, the Bible supports socialism (ideologically at least).

Acts 4:32-35
32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Okay-- it is entirely feasible and valid within a free market for an association of people to pool resources and distribute them according to need. This has absolutely nothing to do with State socialism. The Church did not take everyone residing within a geographical area, including those who did not want to participate, and force them into such a set-up; that would be socialism.

DamianTV
04-17-2012, 11:31 PM
So, uh, what would Jesus have said about Fiat Currency and the act of Charging Interest to create a debt that can never be repaid?

heavenlyboy34
04-17-2012, 11:37 PM
So, uh, what would Jesus have said about Fiat Currency and the act of Charging Interest to create a debt that can never be repaid?
He threw the money-changers out of the temple and told them he turned the place into a den of vipers and thieves. I reckon he would have even harsher things to say about today's money changers (banksters).

Re: the op-there are several treatises out there describing how the bible contains not only a complete philosophy but the rational basis for (laissez-faire) capitalism.

dealerjim
04-18-2012, 09:48 AM
Jesus advocated voluntary wealth distribution. He certainly didn't support stealing money through taxation (theft) as a means to further the Kingdom. Doing so would only bring glory to the State and would elevate it above God.

Precisely! Funny how this consistently gets lost in translation.

xkrazy201x
04-18-2012, 02:35 PM
Okay-- it is entirely feasible and valid within a free market for an association of people to pool resources and distribute them according to need. This has absolutely nothing to do with State socialism. The Church did not take everyone residing within a geographical area, including those who did not want to participate, and force them into such a set-up; that would be socialism.

Ecclesiastically speaking you are correct. However, in the 'oneness of spirit' in the Body of Christ (the invisible church opposed to the corporate church), a socialistic approach is taught. The reason socialism, in a broader context, doesn't work is due to the depravity of mankind; people covet power and wealth. However, once subjugated to a supreme authority, in this case God, then the pursuit of power and wealth is folly, for the understanding of our relationship with God is the antithesis of selfishness.

However, this exegetical approach to find financial systems out of the Bible is inherently flawed: Matthew 22:21.

xkrazy201x
04-18-2012, 02:42 PM
Jesus advocated voluntary wealth distribution. He certainly didn't support stealing money through taxation (theft) as a means to further the Kingdom. Doing so would only bring glory to the State and would elevate it above God.

I'm not sure why you think the Bible labels taxation theft. Do you have a source?

awake
04-18-2012, 02:49 PM
"Since the third century Christianity has always served simultaneously those who supported the social order and those who wished to overthrow it. . . . It is the same today: Christianity fights both for and against Socialism."- Mises

Lucille
04-18-2012, 03:04 PM
Gary North: The Bible mandates free market capitalism. It is anti-socialist. The proof is here: 10,000 pages of exposition, verse by verse. Free. (http://www.garynorth.com/public/department57.cfm)