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beastmode986
04-15-2012, 05:49 PM
title says it will america ever be free or will it constantly be controlled by controlling morons? discuss

FrankRep
04-15-2012, 05:55 PM
will america ever change

http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/files/2009/04/obama-change2.jpg

farreri
04-15-2012, 06:00 PM
As long as the elections are rigged.

FrankRep
04-15-2012, 06:07 PM
As long as the elections are rigged.
The elections have been rigged from the beginning. Why do you think Socialists love "Democracy"?


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Keith and stuff
04-15-2012, 06:23 PM
It changes all of the time, getting worse and worse :( We are trying various strategies to changes things. Most of them have never worked. Some of them we haven't tried long enough to see if they will work. Hopefully the liberty in our lifetime plan will work. For it to have a chance to work, we need more movers, though.

heavenlyboy34
04-15-2012, 06:29 PM
The elections have been rigged from the beginning. Why do you think Socialists love "Democracy"?


http://rlv.zcache.com/road_to_socialism_tshirt-p235231307417870989ux8z_400.jpg
This^^ As long as most people would rather be comfortable slaves than free, nothing will change. The political means won't work in the long term.

NoOneButPaul
04-15-2012, 06:35 PM
The impatience of people in the revolution amazes me... you don't change a country in 5 years... no amount of great change only took 5 years.

It takes decades of tireless work, we are young, we have time on our side, we will change the country if we consider the bigger picture and continue to fight for Liberty and Freedom.

We will win, but it's going to take some time...

Anti Federalist
04-15-2012, 07:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/KMAjt.jpg

heavenlyboy34
04-15-2012, 07:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/KMAjt.jpg
Good eyes there, cap'n! It was more coherent than normal, so I didn't guess Fire11. /shrugs

Anti Federalist
04-15-2012, 07:29 PM
Good eyes there, cap'n! It was more coherent than normal, so I didn't guess Fire11. /shrugs

From another thread:


ive tried k2 and alot of others...there worse for your body than weed imo weed should be legal we would kill less trees and stop making the ozone hole bigger

heavenlyboy34
04-15-2012, 07:29 PM
The impatience of people in the revolution amazes me... you don't change a country in 5 years... no amount of great change only took 5 years.

It takes decades of tireless work, we are young, we have time on our side, we will change the country if we consider the bigger picture and continue to fight for Liberty and Freedom.

We will win, but it's going to take some time...
You think this has only been going on for 5 years? :eek: :rolleyes: The LP alone was started more than 30 years ago. Constitutionalist types have been at it for ~200 years.

kcchiefs6465
04-15-2012, 07:30 PM
Yes. For the worse.

beastmode986
04-15-2012, 07:37 PM
its pretty sad. BUT you say weve been trying we all need to try harder and come up with some great idea on how we can make america change for the better.we need to put forward all of our effort! how come nobody ever fought for our rights written in the constitution ? fight so that are rights arent violated?like a major fight something huge in the court room, something massive so you can beat the governments lawyers and get the freedom we want?

Dianne
04-15-2012, 08:08 PM
No !!! There is no America any longer. This place we all called home is just another banana republic, and will never be returned to the great country it once was. You have a dictatorship in place, no better and even worse than those dictatorships in Iran, Afghanistan, Ira (my cue on the keyboard is stuck) . Since Clinton down, there has been a goal to destroy America, and they have suceeded. Our food and water is poisoned, autism is up 70% from the crap they are pouring into our children . The game is over, and the country is done. Unless you are 100% corrupt, and the sleaziest maggot that ever took a breath; you cannot survive in this country anymore. I don't even want to call it America, I'm not sure what to call it ... But this place we live in, is not America. It is time to think of another name for this hell hole, the last remaining country of dignity stamped out by organized crime, aka the United Nations.

Keith and stuff
04-15-2012, 08:14 PM
You think this has only been going on for 5 years? :eek: :rolleyes: The LP alone was started more than 30 years ago. Constitutionalist types have been at it for ~200 years.

Excellent point. I had no idea what he was talking about. I've been at it for 13 years myself. I'm sure some people have been at it for 60 or more years.

RickyJ
04-15-2012, 08:22 PM
America is changing everyday, but for the worse, not the better.

azxd
04-15-2012, 08:22 PM
America is in constant change, and has been since it's inception.

Some like it, while others do not.

Some bitch, and others do not.

Some want to see more change occur, and others do not.

If Ron Paul is elected, some will embrace the change he brings, and others will not.

Such is life ... It's all about what you make of it.

Some live in fear, others do not.

oyarde
04-15-2012, 11:55 PM
This^^ As long as most people would rather be comfortable slaves than free, nothing will change. The political means won't work in the long term. Deocracy , socialism , Marx , ...... Socialism , communism .Lenin . Wil it change ? I somehow , think not ....

heavenlyboy34
04-16-2012, 12:15 AM
No !!! There is no America any longer. This place we all called home is just another banana republic, and will never be returned to the great country it once was. You have a dictatorship in place, no better and even worse than those dictatorships in Iran, Afghanistan, Ira (my cue on the keyboard is stuck) . Since Clinton down, there has been a goal to destroy America, and they have suceeded. Our food and water is poisoned, autism is up 70% from the crap they are pouring into our children . The game is over, and the country is done. Unless you are 100% corrupt, and the sleaziest maggot that ever took a breath; you cannot survive in this country anymore. I don't even want to call it America, I'm not sure what to call it ... But this place we live in, is not America. It is time to think of another name for this hell hole, the last remaining country of dignity stamped out by organized crime, aka the United Nations.
I'm fond of Союз Социалист Штатах в Америке (Union of Socialist States of America-pronounced basically "soyuz sotsialeest shtatakh v' amerikye") Abbreviated-ССША