Fox Employee can't stand it anymore Leaks Romney Tape and plans to do more...

[Chainspell]

So I ran across this video that was uploaded yesterday. Further proof that FOX is a corrupt manipulative machine. They're trying to say that if you don't support Obama you're a racist...

I've always wanted this to happen... When FOX employees can't stomach it anymore. I hope he starts leaking some good stuff!

LOL sorry before I waste your 5 minutes.. they don't talk about anything except horses...
Story at http://gawker.com/5900710/announcing-our-newest-hire-a-current-fox-news-channel-employee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z81S_xdROlg

[coffeewithchess]

So I ran across this video that was uploaded yesterday. Further proof that FOX is a corrupt manipulative machine. They're trying to say that if you don't support Obama you're a racist...

I've always wanted this to happen... When FOX employees can't stomach it anymore. I hope he starts leaking some good stuff!

Story at http://gawker.com/5900710/announcing-our-newest-hire-a-current-fox-news-channel-employee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z81S_xdROlg

I really hope this Fox employee...has more than that leaked video. For all we know, this could be a simple setup by Hannity and Romney's campaign, to get this stuff out in the public, before the general election.

Even though the horse talk will probably lead to some more fun videos...:D

JUST CAME UP WITH ONE!

[J_White]

horses ! seems like something from the French autocracy !

[smartguy911]

what kind of leak is this?

[Keith and stuff]

Horseback riding isn't elitist at all. My mom had a horse and did it for years. She is middle class. I did horseback riding as did pretty much everyone in my immediate family. I knew lower middle class families that had horses.

I have no idea what those people are talking about. Perhaps they are elitist or have no idea that people in middle America ride horses and/or attend rodeos, at least for a time in their lives. I think the only thing newsworthy from this story is how absurd these commentators are.

[alucard13mmfmj]

wish that fox employee released more before its too late... or else he might end up like britebart.

[Vanilluxe]

Horseback riding isn't elitist at all. My mom had a horse and did it for years. She is middle class. I did horseback riding as did pretty much everyone in my immediate family. I knew lower middle class families that had horses.

I have no idea what those people are talking about. Perhaps they are elitist or have no idea that people in middle America ride horses and/or attend rodeos, at least for a time in their lives. I think the only thing newsworthy from this story is how absurd these commentators are.

For people living in urban areas, the perception is that horseback riding in bourgeois, and realistically many people in the cities and suburbs cannot afford to keep horses; its very expensive, but I just want to point out the views people have in the Bay Area.

[Keith and stuff]

For people living in urban areas, the perception is that horseback riding in bourgeois, and realistically many people in the cities and suburbs cannot afford to keep horses; its very expensive, but I just want to point out the views people have in the Bay Area.

Well, for people in the Southwest and Southeast, horse riding is something that the less than rich do, usually. There are cowboys all over states like MT, OK and WY. Those cowboys are usually either lower middle class or poor. I grew up in the South and the people that dealt with horses were either usually middle class or lower middle class rural folk (hicks, rednecks, country bumpkins, farm workers) or middle class suburban folk. Of course, the Bay Area has extremely high pay. From my point of view, people in the Bay Area are bourgeois compared to almost everyone in the US. I guess people just have different points of view.

Personally, I think this video will help Romney relate to average rural people, like Bush in a cowboy hat. Especially in states that haven't voted yet, like SD, NE and TX.

This is how you get elected in SD be you Republican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnxL8aHDyxc

or Democrat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0eeKuwGrKE

[Wooden Indian]

What a crappy leak. I was expecting something with some meat on it. They spoke about horses? Did Mitt tie one to his car roof? Where's the story here?

[kuckfeynes]

These guys obviously don't spend much time in rural America.

[Vanilluxe]

Well, for people in the Southwest and Southeast, horse riding is something that the less than rich do, usually. There are cowboys all over states like MT, OK and WY. Those cowboys are usually either lower middle class or poor. I grew up in the South and the people that dealt with horses were either usually middle class or lower middle class rural folk (hicks, rednecks, country bumpkins, farm workers) or middle class suburban folk. Of course, the Bay Area has extremely high pay. From my point of view, people in the Bay Area are bourgeois compared to almost everyone in the US. I guess people just have different points of view.

Personally, I think this video will help Romney relate to average rural people, like Bush in a cowboy hat. Especially in states that haven't voted yet, like SD, NE and TX.

This is how you get elected in SD be you Republican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnxL8aHDyxc

or Democrat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0eeKuwGrKE

LOL I understand,

fun fact: my 1500 sq ft. summer house worths $800,000 in San Francisco, compared to Ron Paul's 5500 sq ft. house which he sold for 400k. Land ain't cheap in urban areas.

[PaulSoHard]

Looks like Fox can't stand the truth coming out anymore: they're filing charges against this guy and Gawker

[Keith and stuff]

LOL I understand,

fun fact: my 1500 sq ft. summer house worths $800,000 in San Francisco, compared to Ron Paul's 5500 sq ft. house which he sold for 400k. Land ain't cheap in urban areas.

Even in a general election, this video would help Romney. Most people in swing states like VA and NC get that horses aren't associated with aristocracy but are a good way to relate to the people. Heck, the video may even help Romney in NV and NM.


Looks like Fox can't stand the truth coming out anymore: they're filing charges against this guy and Gawker

That sucks as it may promote this video which could help Romney. But seriously, this guy has some issues if he leaked this video, as though he thought it was a game changer.

[Lishy]

No evidence of a media conspiracy yet?

[eleganz]

worst thing he said was dressage...

[affa]

worst subtitles ever

[RickyJ]

The only thing interesting about this "leak" is that his wife really likes to ride horses and doesn't like to go too long without riding one and that she likes to get away from him while doing so.

Nothing political here at all. This doesn't appear to be a real mole, but rather someone trying to make Romney look more like a real person.

[Feeding the Abscess]

Even in a general election, this video would help Romney. Most people in swing states like VA and NC get that horses aren't associated with aristocracy but are a good way to relate to the people. Heck, the video may even help Romney in NV and NM.



That sucks as it may promote this video which could help Romney. But seriously, this guy has some issues if he leaked this video, as though he thought it was a game changer.

I've known a few people into horses here in the Inland Valley, and none of them were into this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg/220px-Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg

That's what Romney was talking about, and that is kind of elitist. It's also... European! He wasn't talking about rodeo cowboy riding or whatever.

And it's certainly more elitist than golf, which he knocks Obama for all the time. Romney is just such a smarmy douchebag, I can't fathom how anyone can't see through his garbage.

[libertyjam]

Must not be much to talk about on the political campaign trail these days that they have to make non-news into a story about some lame shit, especially when they are so busy ignoring doing any real coverage about the real issues.

[Kilrain]

That's the most human I've ever seen Mitt Romney be.

[nobody's_hero]

WHat!?

I kept watching and watching hoping for Romney to say something like, "Well, I'm doing pretty good. The democrat leaders keep giving me orders on what to do next, and Wall Street and the Fed wanted a very weak alternative from the GOP, so all I have to do is throw this election away and I've been promised a portion of America when they carve it up and serve it to international bankers."

But he never said that.

He talked about horses. Which, is perfectly legal and ethical.

[GraniteHills]

What a week! I'm glad the left is there to teach us all its valuable lessons.

-Riding horses is "elitist"...
-Stay-at-home moms are somehow lesser people, true leeches on society...

Barry Obama is hopelessly out of touch. I would give nearly anything to see him get Mondaled in 7 months.

[jeremiahj13]

Oh oh!!! Did Mitt cheat on his wife? Did purposely rig some results? Did he treat some constituents disrespectfully?

Oh he rode a horse.... nice leak......

[PaulConventionWV]

horses ! seems like something from the French autocracy !

Leeet's get 'em!

[PaulConventionWV]

Horseback riding isn't elitist at all. My mom had a horse and did it for years. She is middle class. I did horseback riding as did pretty much everyone in my immediate family. I knew lower middle class families that had horses.

I have no idea what those people are talking about. Perhaps they are elitist or have no idea that people in middle America ride horses and/or attend rodeos, at least for a time in their lives. I think the only thing newsworthy from this story is how absurd these commentators are.

True. If you live in a rural area, you're pretty sure to have some neighbors that own horses. They're all over the place in WV, and let me tell you this place is not elitist in the least. I mean, it's WV.

[PaulConventionWV]

LOL I understand,

fun fact: my 1500 sq ft. summer house worths $800,000 in San Francisco, compared to Ron Paul's 5500 sq ft. house which he sold for 400k. Land ain't cheap in urban areas.

I think SF has the highest standard of living in the country. The minimum wage there is like $10.37 there now, or something like that.

[PaulConventionWV]

No evidence of a media conspiracy yet?

Plenty of evidence. Where have you been?

[PaulConventionWV]

WHat!?

I kept watching and watching hoping for Romney to say something like, "Well, I'm doing pretty good. The democrat leaders keep giving me orders on what to do next, and Wall Street and the Fed wanted a very weak alternative from the GOP, so all I have to do is throw this election away and I've been promised a portion of America when they carve it up and serve it to international bankers."

But he never said that.

He talked about horses. Which, is perfectly legal and ethical.

Even if he did say that, I'm sure he would then apologize and say he was "just joking", and most Americans would roll right over and go back to sleep and forget about it.

[wgadget]

Yeah, like there aren't more EGREGIOUS issues to discuss. EXHIBIT A:

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-13/jpmorgan-said-to-transform-treasury-to-prop-trading?category=%2F

[Feeding the Abscess]

Guys, there's kind of a difference between:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg/220px-Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/WC07b.JPG/220px-WC07b.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/WC07d.JPG/220px-WC07d.JPG

and

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/StampedeRodeo2002.JPG/300px-StampedeRodeo2002.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Barrel-Racing-Szmurlo.jpg/170px-Barrel-Racing-Szmurlo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Brawley_roundup.jpg/220px-Brawley_roundup.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/2006-07-28_-_United_States_-_Wyoming_-_Cody_-_Rodeo_-_Cowboy.jpg/220px-2006-07-28_-_United_States_-_Wyoming_-_Cody_-_Rodeo_-_Cowboy.jpg

One is elitist, one is not. And the people in WV, the midwest or those who populate rodeos kind of tend to think dressage is a little gay and/or European. It is European, so there's that. Talking about dressage isn't going to endear Romney to base GOPers lolololol, you guys are funny.

[Nastynate]

Sounds like more of an issue to separate the masses. The Fox newsers (mostly republicans) will be brainwashed in to saying "that nasty reporter is just a plant for the democrat party. Everyone owns horses out in the country who cares? Fox isn't racist!" then you'll be seeing the MSM peeps (mostly democrats) saying "See Fox is racist a former employee said so! Romney rides horses?! What an elitist." This is just more stuff to fan the flames of division in america. Can't believe most of you haven't caught onto this BS, the Travon Martin is the prime example of this, and pretty much any store for that matter.

On top of that it also has the republicans defending a rich guy (like usual in a democrats mind), and has the democrats saying see hes a rich guy out of touch with everyone. Stop getting trolled by the media people....really..

[Noble Savage]

Oh I get it, the plan now is to bore us to death.

[jene277]

I've known a few people into horses here in the Inland Valley, and none of them were into this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg/220px-Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg

That's what Romney was talking about, and that is kind of elitist. It's also... European! He wasn't talking about rodeo cowboy riding or whatever.

I live in a poor rural farm area, and this is a common sport here, mostly for girls or FFA kids. They may not compete in big name competitions or spend as much money, but it's still the same thing. It's either that, pig races, or tractor pulls around here LOL.

[jovasi]

This is a leak? That guy at Fox News better come up with something better than this if he's going to be an "alleged" mole. After reading the thread title, I was hoping it would be something the Paul campaign could use.

[The Goat]

Their is a difference, his wife is the one riding the dressage horse, he has a quarter horse. She has the elitist horse and he has the western style horse. Romneys image has been fine tuned for a while, I'm sure he'll be in an interview or something on his missouri fox trotter decked out in a flannel shirt and blue jeans, maybe even a cowboy hat. XD




Guys, there's kind of a difference between:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg/220px-Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/WC07b.JPG/220px-WC07b.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/WC07d.JPG/220px-WC07d.JPG

and

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/StampedeRodeo2002.JPG/300px-StampedeRodeo2002.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Barrel-Racing-Szmurlo.jpg/170px-Barrel-Racing-Szmurlo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Brawley_roundup.jpg/220px-Brawley_roundup.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/2006-07-28_-_United_States_-_Wyoming_-_Cody_-_Rodeo_-_Cowboy.jpg/220px-2006-07-28_-_United_States_-_Wyoming_-_Cody_-_Rodeo_-_Cowboy.jpg

One is elitist, one is not. And the people in WV, the midwest or those who populate rodeos kind of tend to think dressage is a little gay and/or European. It is European, so there's that. Talking about dressage isn't going to endear Romney to base GOPers lolololol, you guys are funny.

[airborne373]

I think Cenk & Olbermann will be looking for jobs together soon. Not a very interesting leak, in fact just looks like more class/race division by the divide and conquer pimps.

[Feeding the Abscess]

Their is a difference, his wife is the one riding the dressage horse, he has a quarter horse. She has the elitist horse and he has the western style horse. Romneys image has been fine tuned for a while, I'm sure he'll be in an interview or something on his missouri fox trotter decked out in a flannel shirt and blue jeans, maybe even a cowboy hat. XD

I can't wait. Romney's about as square as H.W.

[MelissaCato]

Gezzz I train and ride racehorses for a living. Dressage to us is kiddy camp and Dressage on anything but an Arabian horse is teenie camp. LMAO

[Chainspell]

Oh oh!!! Did Mitt cheat on his wife? Did purposely rig some results? Did he treat some constituents disrespectfully?

Oh he rode a horse.... nice leak......
haha yeah i was thinking that too. but hey who knows he might run into something good someday lol

[Cowlesy]

I'm glad The Young Turks or the Fox Mole don't have any sort of Agenda.


Really, it's just one skunk spraying another skunk.

*shrugs*

[Chainspell]

okay i edited my original post to warn people that it's nothing...

lol now i feel bad for wasting everyone's time... i just wanted to post it as an FYI

[Ivash]

The only thing interesting about this "leak" is that his wife really likes to ride horses and doesn't like to go too long without riding one and that she likes to get away from him while doing so.

Nothing political here at all. This doesn't appear to be a real mole, but rather someone trying to make Romney look more like a real person.

Apparently he is being sued, so it appears he is a real mole.

But this leak was pathetic. I am disappointed.

[Feelgood]

Yes, that interview was truly scandalous! :rolleyes:

[azxd]

Oh I get it, the plan now is to bore us to death.Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[angelatc]

You liberal lovin tools are late late late. He was outed and fired (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/04/12/how-fox-news-outed-its-gawker-mole-in-less-than-24-hours/)before this was even posted.

He was just a whiner, with nothing of any real value to contribute to society anyway. He wasn't accusing them of lying to drum up war, he was upset because he said the posters on the internet were racist for not supporting Obama.

Look at the video he released. OMG - Mitt is rich???? Who knew????

[KingNothing]

If this is the worst they can get on Romney, he might actually beat Obama.

[KingNothing]

Cenk has a lot of nerve criticizing anyone else for blatantly pushing an agenda.

[Feeding the Abscess]

You liberal lovin tools are late late late. He was outed and fired (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/04/12/how-fox-news-outed-its-gawker-mole-in-less-than-24-hours/)before this was even posted.

He was just a whiner, with nothing of any real value to contribute to society anyway. He wasn't accusing them of lying to drum up war, he was upset because he said the posters on the internet were racist for not supporting Obama.

Look at the video he released. OMG - Mitt is rich???? Who knew????

Don't forget that scathing bathroom scandal!

That whole mole thing was almost as pointless as Deadspin's entire website. I still can't believe that there's a website that is essentially nothing but behind the scenes gossip about ESPN personalities.

[Dr.3D]

Strange, some say Dressage is elitist while I know from living in a poor town in Mexico, it is common practice for the cowboys there to teach their horses these types of movements. I learned a lot of Dressage while living in that town. It just shows how ignorant people really are about what makes a horse a good candidate for working around cattle and doing a good job at it.

When someone wants to mount a horse from the sidewalk, they will wave their crop and the horse will move sideways up to the sidewalk so they can easily climb on. Also it is great for opening and closing gates. I never thought about Dressage as being more than gymnastics for horses.

[Chainspell]

You liberal lovin tools are late late late. He was outed and fired (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/04/12/how-fox-news-outed-its-gawker-mole-in-less-than-24-hours/)before this was even posted.

He was just a whiner, with nothing of any real value to contribute to society anyway. He wasn't accusing them of lying to drum up war, he was upset because he said the posters on the internet were racist for not supporting Obama.

Look at the video he released. OMG - Mitt is rich???? Who knew????
wow incredible they found him within a few hours..

[talkingpointes]

Until I read the comments I imagined a majority of you have rode horses. (at least once) If not in a way that is almost kind of sad, get out and try it. For the "real men", try riding English style. I did not grow up rich, nor was most of my family. But a few of my family members had horses.

For the forever alone types - women love cowboys. You ride the horse they ride you.

[angelatc]

Guys, there's kind of a difference between:




and




One is elitist, one is not. And the people in WV, the midwest or those who populate rodeos kind of tend to think dressage is a little gay and/or European. It is European, so there's that. Talking about dressage isn't going to endear Romney to base GOPers lolololol, you guys are funny.
More liberal diatribe.

Elitist, really? I grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood and I didn't know anybody who took riding lessons while learning to rope steer or break broncos. However, I had several friends who had riding breeches in their closet, because they took riding lessons in the next town over.

[KingNothing]

Do people understand how absurd it is to dislike, distrust, or hate someone because of the amount of money in his bank account?

There are PLENTY of reasons to think Mitt wouldn't be a good president. His wealth is not one of them.

[angelatc]

wow incredible they found him within a few hours..

Like this was hard to figure out:

In the end, it was the digital trail that gave me away. They knew that someone, using my computer login, had accessed the sources for two videos that ended up on Gawker over the past few weeks. They couldn’t prove it entirely, but I was pretty much the only suspect.

Well, duh.

[angelatc]

Do people understand how absurd it is to dislike, distrust, or hate someone because of the amount of money in his bank account?

There are PLENTY of reasons to think Mitt wouldn't be a good president. His wealth is not one of them.

Yes, but the forums are now nothing more than ThinkProgress lite.

[KingNothing]

Professor and Senator Obama and his wife could have afforded to ride horses, too. Is that lost on liberals?


Each man is "elitist"

[Feeding the Abscess]

More liberal diatribe.

Elitist, really? I grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood and I didn't know anybody who took riding lessons while learning to rope steer or break broncos. However, I had several friends who had riding breeches in their closet, because they took riding lessons in the next town over.

Yes, what Mitt Romney was talking about wasn't just riding lessons and horse maneuvering. He was discussing dressage as a sport, with the funny costumes and everything in the European tradition.

I really wouldn't care, Mitt just annoys the dickens out of me. And he knocks Obama for playing golf. I hate golf, but if he's going to ding Obama for golf, I'm going to ding him for European, costume wearing horse sport.

Because lord knows there isn't anything substantive to talk about with those two - they believe in the same stuff.

[brushfire]

There's serveral polo stables/fields within a minute of my house.

I hope some better stuff comes out than this. This video? Meh...

[angelatc]

Yes, what Mitt Romney was talking about wasn't just riding lessons and horse maneuvering. He was discussing dressage as a sport, with the funny costumes and everything.

And no matter how many of us tell you that we were lower middle class kids who knew other middle class kids into the sport, you're still insisting that we are the ones who don't know what we're talking about. I can absolutely assure you that I do.

I had 3 friends who lived, ate and breathed horses. They all took riding lessons, wore those outfits, and competed in competitions. So you can stop now.

[Feeding the Abscess]

There's serveral polo stables/fields within a minute of my house.

I hope some better stuff comes out than this. This video? Meh...

Na, just some 40 year old picture of O Rly and a report that the bathrooms have stalls that aren't discreet.

[Suzu]

Nothing elitist about dressage unless you aspire to be a world champion. I used to live on a farm that raised dressage horses (Friesians). They are a gas!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3dZEocHGZ0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eufBScvvCw8

[Cowlesy]

Guys, there's kind of a difference between:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg/220px-Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/WC07b.JPG/220px-WC07b.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/WC07d.JPG/220px-WC07d.JPG

and

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/StampedeRodeo2002.JPG/300px-StampedeRodeo2002.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Barrel-Racing-Szmurlo.jpg/170px-Barrel-Racing-Szmurlo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Brawley_roundup.jpg/220px-Brawley_roundup.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/2006-07-28_-_United_States_-_Wyoming_-_Cody_-_Rodeo_-_Cowboy.jpg/220px-2006-07-28_-_United_States_-_Wyoming_-_Cody_-_Rodeo_-_Cowboy.jpg

One is elitist, one is not. And the people in WV, the midwest or those who populate rodeos kind of tend to think dressage is a little gay and/or European. It is European, so there's that. Talking about dressage isn't going to endear Romney to base GOPers lolololol, you guys are funny.

I think you're funny that you think english-style riding is thought to be gay by the base GOP. Lots of ladies did that in my rural middle class town where I grew up. Definitely not elitist, although liberal social engineering probably leads you to believe so.

[KingNothing]

Yes, what Mitt Romney was talking about wasn't just riding lessons and horse maneuvering. He was discussing dressage as a sport, with the funny costumes and everything.


And?

If you were lucky enough to have the opportunities he's had, and if you were skilled enough to take advantage of them, you wouldn't allow your wife that luxury?

This is absolute nonsense. I do not like Mitt Romney. He's a pandering ass who has no desire to follow the rule of law or implement a sensible foreign policy. Those points are so significant that this mudslinging at Mitt and his wife ---people who, by all accounts, are decent humans if not a bit boring--- is absurd.

[Brown Sapper]

I think the main issue with the video is that right before the segment Romney is talking about horseback riding and then immediately goes on air and rails on Obama for golfing. Hence the whole hub-bub.

[MelissaCato]

I'm glad The Young Turks or the Fox Mole don't have any sort of Agenda.Really, it's just one skunk spraying another skunk.*shrugs* JMO. Actually it is pretty genius to leak this kind of video about horses, because there is social divisions in the horse world. Anything with a pommel, spurs (edit) nothing at all or high speed is the horseman - everything else is equestrian. To be more blunt - western versus european or workhorse verses "pony" horse. It is a huge social division in competitiveness. East vs West. American way verses every one else kinda thing. Dog Sportsman are the same way. Now if we can get Ron Paul to buy a racehorse and call it The Revolution and buy a Belgian Malinois and call it Fido. We won. CRAZY how people think. LOL

[talkingpointes]

I think you're funny that you think english-style riding is thought to be gay by the base GOP. Lots of ladies did that in my rural middle class town where I grew up. Definitely not elitist, although liberal social engineering probably leads you to believe so.

If anything riding english style is harder because of the saddle w/o a horn. Its hard to stay stable. Western is just more popular here in the states.

[Feeding the Abscess]

And?

If you were lucky enough to have the opportunities he's had, and if you were skilled enough to take advantage of them, you wouldn't allow your wife that luxury?

This is absolute nonsense. I do not like Mitt Romney. He's a pandering ass who has no desire to follow the rule of law or implement a sensible foreign policy. Those points are so significant that this mudslinging at Mitt and his wife ---people who, by all accounts, are decent humans if not a bit boring--- is absurd.

What else is there to talk about with Mitt/Obama? There's no difference between them on any issue of substance. So we're going to get a guy saying the other is European while talking about his wife's European sporting and having lived in France for a couple years and speaking the language fairly well.

[angelatc]

What else is there to talk about with Mitt/Obama? There's no difference between them on any issue of substance. So we're going to get a guy saying the other is European while talking about his wife's European sporting and having lived in France for a couple years and speaking the language fairly well.

Obama lived overseas too. And he says "Pakist-AHN" to constantly remind us of that, while I haven't heard as much as a simple ohh laa laa out of Mitt.

[Feeding the Abscess]

Obama lived overseas too. And he says "Pakist-AHN" to constantly remind us of that.

Sure, but for Romney of all people to bring that up is mind-meltingly stupid. I can't wait for six more months of this crap.

[Tyler_Durden]

I've known a few people into horses here in the Inland Valley, and none of them were into this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg/220px-Hannoveraner_Dressur_Goethe_3_bestes.jpg

That's what Romney was talking about, and that is kind of elitist. It's also... European! He wasn't talking about rodeo cowboy riding or whatever.
And it's certainly more elitist than golf, which he knocks Obama for all the time. Romney is just such a smarmy douchebag, I can't fathom how anyone can't see through his garbage.

Exactly my thoughts. He's riding $200K thoroughbreds through his vineyard. The Romney's have probably never brushed their horse, saddled it, placed the bit, etc. They have people who do that for them.....

[angelatc]

Sure, but for Romney of all people to bring that up is mind-meltingly stupid. I can't wait for six more months of this crap.

It's the media spin. Obama talked incessantly about how his international experiences qualified him for the job, and everybody smiled and nodded. Mitt mentions that he was a missionary in France though, and he's an elitist because he spent time outside of this country.

[angelatc]

Exactly my thoughts. He's riding $200K thoroughbreds through his vineyard. The Romney's have probably never brushed their horse, saddled it, placed the bit, etc. They have people who do that for them.....

This attack seems to be working on the liberals, I have to say. Perhaps John Dennis should use it against Pelosi.

[MelissaCato]

Now that I think about it george washington had a white racehorse (grey horse) known by the british to be the fastest horse in the land. So ironic. I have a picture of george washington on his horse some where in the attic. LOL

[Feeding the Abscess]

This attack seems to be working on the liberals, I have to say. Perhaps John Dennis should use it against Pelosi.

In all seriousness, if Dennis/Pelosi didn't live in a high end district, running a populist campaign could probably gain some traction.

[Butchie]

Kinda lame, first ofcourse they do the standard tactic of using the "r" word, since when is hip-hop racist? I guess my racist radar isn't turned up as high as everyone else's in this nation I didn't find anything racist about that at all. Then the horse thing? My mom and aunts grew up about as poor as anyone and they had horses, it's not a sign of wealth trust me. I hate FOX and all and would love to see them brought down but this was a non-story if you ask me.

[Tiso0770]

If anyone wants to capture some good live feeds, find someone that has an old satellite dish setup. they broadcast live feeds from time to time. you never know...just might capture something interesting.

[libertyjam]

Their is a difference, his wife is the one riding the dressage horse, he has a quarter horse. She has the elitist horse and he has the western style horse. Romneys image has been fine tuned for a while, I'm sure he'll be in an interview or something on his missouri fox trotter decked out in a flannel shirt and blue jeans, maybe even a cowboy hat. XD

Never tell a QH owner that a Foxtrotter is a quarter horse. :)

[oyarde]

I live in a poor rural farm area, and this is a common sport here, mostly for girls or FFA kids. They may not compete in big name competitions or spend as much money, but it's still the same thing. It's either that, pig races, or tractor pulls around here LOL.Pig races sound like more fun , but hey that is just me ;)

[jolynna]

I have two horses myself, so I don't think it is a big deal.

However, I will say there is a big difference between my two horses on a farm that I feed, brush, train and care for MYSELF AND horses that are boarded at a stable and cared for and trained by "others". I doubt that the Romney's clean up their horses' poop, brush them, lunge them, ride them regularly to keep them sharp, train them, see to their hoof trimmings and shoeing and make the calls to the vet themselves. They hire people to do that. Which easily puts a horse hobby into being just as expensive as a golf hobby. Boarding, horse food if a horse is stabled and horse care if you don't do it yourself costs.

But, it is stupid to worry about who has the MOST EXPENSIVE HOBBY.

My concern is WHO would be most likely to take us into war with Iran (which will kill the United States financially, result in the deaths of many of our children that serve in the military and possibly lead to WWIII if Russia and China get involved -- don't tell me Russia won't care IF we go to war with their neighbor.)

ROMNEY absolutely will take us to war...many of his advisers have been petitioning for it since the Clinton days (saying in 1992 that Iran was getting NUCLEAR CAPABILITY ANY MINUTE...actually those same advisers have been fear-mongering about Iran getting nukes just about EVERY year since 1992).

IF you google military contracts it appears that Obama sneakily also might be making preparations for war as soon as the election is over. LOTS of new military contracts due to be completed by the END OF NOVEMBER 2012.

Then there is the matter of BOTH Romney and Obama taking away every LAST LIBERTY. (See Romney's record and the dozens of reports from the ACLU about his spying on citizens and unlawful intrusions into their homes and lives. Romney makes no bones about being FOR NDAA, ending internet freedom, being responsible for the nation's FIRST ID cards <driver's licenses & state IDs> that utilize the FBI's facial recognition base AND put owners of the new cards INTO the data base.) And well...Obama not only DIDN'T REPEAL the Patriot Act, he signed the NDAA and some executive orders.

That any NEWS professional would give a rat's behind about horseback riding versus golf when we are on the verge of a HUGE and HORRIFIC mess in Iran AND our President and his rival for President are gung-ho surveillance freaks who are just fine with infinite detention and keeping "detained" Americans from access to lawyers shows how low even the so-called educated (our political and news experts) have sunk.

In my opinion.

[angelatc]

I have two horses myself, so I don't think it is a big deal.

However, I will say there is a big difference between my two horses on a farm that I feed, brush, train and care for MYSELF AND horses that are boarded at a stable and cared for and trained by "others". I doubt that the Romney's clean up their horses' poop, brush them, lunge them, ride them regularly to keep them sharp, train them, see to their hoof trimmings and shoeing and make the calls to the vet themselves. They hire people to do that. Which easily puts a horse hobby into being just as expensive as a golf hobby. Boarding, horse food if a horse is stabled and horse care if you don't do it yourself costs.
In my opinion.

She wasn't born rich. According to her statement yesterday, in response to the liberal hater that insulted her as a stay-home Mom, when her third child was born they were still living in a basement apartment somewhere.

If I got rich, I'd travel. My husband would probably learn to fly, maybe we'd end up buying a plane like John Travolta. Doesn't mean I'd maintain it myself.

[Brian4Liberty]

It's kind of like accusing someone of being snooty by calling them a "wine-drinker". Of course the bum laying on the sidewalk drinking from a paper bag is drinking wine too.

[jolynna]

She wasn't born rich. According to her statement yesterday, in response to the liberal hater that insulted her as a stay-home Mom, when her third child was born they were still living in a basement apartment somewhere.

If I got rich, I'd travel. My husband would probably learn to fly, maybe we'd end up buying a plane like John Travolta. Doesn't mean I'd maintain it myself.

Not saying there is anything wrong with horseback riding as a hobby. Or with using other people to do things you don't want to do if you can afford it. I have a cleaning lady. I don't begrudge ANYONE for being successful enough to afford people to do the things they hate because I'd sure hate to mop my own floors.

HOWEVER, keeping and maintaining horses when you are not doing the work yourself IS just as expensive a hobby as golf.

I don't begrudge Obama his golf OR Romney his horses. They are a DISTRACTION FROM WHAT IS IMPORTANT.

As I said, I'm all about the issues. One is the possibility of an unprovoked war which would mean an unnecessary loss of young military lives, foreign civilian lives and horrendous financial sacrifice and debt. That would be immoral...I've got skin in that game, I don't want MY child to die or anybody else (American or foreign) to lose a loved one without just cause.

My other big issue is that we are LOSING CIVIL LIBERTIES we won't ever get back. Both Obama and Romney are paranoid, surveillance freaks that have demonstrated their disregard for human lives and civil liberties and have been ruthless in their zeal for secret prisons, torture and keeping "suspects" from access to lawyers.

Horses and golf are the LEAST of my concerns.

I've posted LOTS of links here backing up my belief that Romney is UNFIT for the office of POTUS. And they are all about his unsavory op-eds advocating torture, assaults on civil rights, and his spy centers, his biggest backer that made billions of dollars at the expense of dying cancer patients and starving children in the Congo (Paul Singer) and Romney having a bad temper that he takes out on people he considers his inferiors.

My own opinion.