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AngelClark
04-10-2012, 10:10 PM
It has become another reason to ignore Ron Paul. So many people attend his rallies that the pictures can't be real, or, if they are real, it must be the same people attending his rallies. Ron Paul must have thousands that follow him from state to state chanting and cheering just like he has thousands who cheat in those online polls.

Tuesday the news came out that Rick Santorum had suspended his presidential campaign. A few hours later, it was reported that Newt Gingrich couldn't get on the ballot in Utah because his check for $500 had bounced. This leaves Mitt Romney and Ron Paul in the Republican race for president.

It just so happened that both Mitt Romney and Ron Paul held campaign events on Tuesday.

Mitt Romney attracted a crowd of roughly 400 supporters to Wilmington, Delaware. Ron Paul attracted over 3,000 people to his campaign event.

http://exm.nr/HzlxcE

I'm working on getting pictures from the Romney event now.

*Grumbles* front-runner... ugh

tangent4ronpaul
04-10-2012, 10:38 PM
eeks! sooo close to the truth! - if they ever figure out what gets us out of our mothers basements, we are truly sunk! :eek:

:D

specialkornflake
04-10-2012, 10:43 PM
The simple truth is that Ron Paul has fewer supporters in this country than Romney at this moment, Ron Paul supporters are more prone to attend rallies, and a lot of Ron Paul supporters don't actually vote. I like seeing the big rallies though and of course the media is never fair!

TIMB0B
04-10-2012, 10:55 PM
Does the author have a podcast?

PaulSoHard
04-10-2012, 10:56 PM
Next comparison will be in Rhode Island next Wednesday when Romney holds an event at a hotel and Ron holds a rally at the University of Rhode Island.

Paul Or Nothing II
04-10-2012, 11:33 PM
The simple truth is that Ron Paul has fewer supporters in this country than Romney at this moment, Ron Paul supporters are more prone to attend rallies, and a lot of Ron Paul supporters don't actually vote. I like seeing the big rallies though and of course the media is never fair!

Ok, so they spend their money & time to attend rallies, hours standing outside & everything & then they don't vote? What kind of RIDICULOUS claim is that! If they're so enthused to attend his rallies, put in their money & time just to listen to "boring" lecture by a septuagenerian, if they show so much dedication then SURELY they DO vote but their votes don't get counted because of the fraudulent voting-scam
Now, I'm NOT saying Paul-supporters are majority or anything, they're likely not BUT if voting was done fairly then he'd be doing much better & that in itself would have more people considering him just like they did Santorum!

JacobSzumniak
04-10-2012, 11:34 PM
ROFLCOPTER Gingrich bounced a $500 check????? And he wants to be president LMAO.

specialkornflake
04-11-2012, 03:02 AM
Ok, so they spend their money & time to attend rallies, hours standing outside & everything & then they don't vote? What kind of RIDICULOUS claim is that! If they're so enthused to attend his rallies, put in their money & time just to listen to "boring" lecture by a septuagenerian, if they show so much dedication then SURELY they DO vote but their votes don't get counted because of the fraudulent voting-scam
Now, I'm NOT saying Paul-supporters are majority or anything, they're likely not BUT if voting was done fairly then he'd be doing much better & that in itself would have more people considering him just like they did Santorum!

Yeah there are a lot of RP supporters that don't vote. Of course that's hard to prove but that's what I've seen. Sure, a lot of the hardcore ones do, but not everyone. I know a lot of it is caused by election laws that require registering a certain amount of time before the election or voters are registered at a different location than they are at on election day like college students. Some refuse to register Republican. Some are busy at work or something on the day of the election. Old voters vote in much greater proportion than young voters.

Now voting fraud. Sure, it happens, but I would suspect it only happens in some elections and in some systems. I suspect large scale voting fraud would be picked up by pollsters, statisticians and whistle blowers. I'm guessing it might affect only a few percentage points of the vote or less. I prefer to talk about Liberty rather than voting fraud. There are enough out in the open grievances of government for me to focus on the hidden ones. The important part is to change people's minds permanently because politics is only semi-temporary.

row333au
04-11-2012, 04:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5BpL6eQyXDs

kathy88
04-11-2012, 04:32 AM
ROFLCOPTER Gingrich bounced a $500 check????? And he wants to be president LMAO.

Santorum's campaign is in debt as well. How can Americans really want these people for President? They can't even run a campaign without debt, but they'll fix our economy. Idiots.

Understanding
04-11-2012, 04:34 AM
Santorum's campaign is in debt as well. How can Americans really want these people for President? They can't even run a campaign without debt, but they'll fix our economy. Idiots.

Yet those guys have received almost twice and three times as much as Ronald Paul of Texas. Many more people wanted Santorum as President than Ron Paul.

Paul Or Nothing II
04-11-2012, 05:10 AM
Yeah there are a lot of RP supporters that don't vote. Of course that's hard to prove but that's what I've seen. Sure, a lot of the hardcore ones do, but not everyone.

With Ron Paul there are largely only two categories
1) hardcore Paul-supporters
2) non-Paul supporters
One simply DOESN'T become a Ron Paul supporter without doing their research, people simply vote one of the mainstream candidate, but if someone HAS done some research & therefore has become a Paul-supporter then there's no reason whatsoever that they won't recognize the importance of voting for him, there may be a couple of exceptions but largely that just isn't true - bottomline is that either someone is a hardcore (to varying degrees) Paul-supporter or they are not


I suspect large scale voting fraud would be picked up by pollsters, statisticians and whistle blowers.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


I prefer to talk about Liberty rather than voting fraud.

Oh yeah, because election-fraud doesn't affect who comes into power & how much of our liberties they take away :rolleyes:

Now, I don't go around talking to people about election-fraud all the time, especially non-Paul supporters, but I don't act like it's not happening or that it doesn't affect us


The important part is to change people's minds permanently because politics is only semi-temporary.

Yes, true, but that also involves exposing the current corrupt systems, be it election-fraud, failure of big government socialism & regulationism, corporatism, or whatever

Paul Or Nothing II
04-11-2012, 05:18 AM
Santorum's campaign is in debt as well. How can Americans really want these people for President? They can't even run a campaign without debt, but they'll fix our economy. Idiots.

+1

Great point that should be made more often to non-Paul supporters!

But there's nothing surprising about it though, that's how dumb, self-centered & intellectually lazy masses have always been, that's what allows tyrants to continue their tyranny, that's why one of the freest countries in history wasn't established by mass-consent but a bunch of land-owning elite, who fully understood the dangers of allowing the masses the opportunity to vote, that's why they'd restricted voting to only the propertied-people because they knew that if every idiot got to vote then the whole thing will quickly devolve into socialist-dystopia where everyone is trying to benefit at the expense of everyone else!

kathy88
04-11-2012, 05:33 AM
Yet those guys have received almost twice and three times as much as Ronald Paul of Texas. Many more people wanted Santorum as President than Ron Paul.


https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXy_Bir_FytOXwMRPOAulGAE63Dd5x-a-4fR-XWlJciboS0kYNdxGNtLaF

No Free Beer
04-11-2012, 05:40 AM
romney has more soft support

Dianne
04-11-2012, 05:49 AM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-draws-small-sleepy-crowd

Posted Jan 17, 2012 9:36am EST

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Email.FLORENCE, South Carolina—Mitt Romney drew a lackluster crowd at a morning rally here, unable to fill even the smaller space his advance staff had blocked off for the event.

Standing on a low stage at the center of the small crowd, Romney gave his standard stump speech, drawing just a smattering of applause on the usual lines.

Only 100 supporters attended the event, billed as a "Grassroots Rally and Discusses Jobs and the Economy with Supporters" by the campaign. Staffers removed the tall ladder at the side of the room to prevent photographers from capturing the vast empty space between the press file and the crowd.

DEGuy
04-11-2012, 05:59 AM
It just so happened that both Mitt Romney and Ron Paul held campaign events on Tuesday.

Mitt Romney attracted a crowd of roughly 400 supporters to Wilmington, Delaware. Ron Paul attracted over 3,000 people to his campaign event.



Although I'd rather not point it out, this is not a fair comparison because Romney's event was in Wilmington and Paul's was in Texas. The Republican base in northern Delaware is very very small, especially in Wilmington. Looks to me like this was just an event set up so a few names in the Delaware GOP would endorse Romney in order to bolster their own political aspirations. I won't be voting for Jeff Cragg now.

Hopefully Paul will visit Delaware sometime too. If he held an event at the University of Delaware he could easily draw in over 1000. Unfortunately, many of them would be out-of-state college students, or those who are registered as independents and democrats - and unable to vote in the Republican primary.

No Free Beer
04-11-2012, 06:16 AM
Although I'd rather not point it out, this is not a fair comparison because Romney's event was in Wilmington and Paul's was in Texas. The Republican base in northern Delaware is very very small, especially in Wilmington. Looks to me like this was just an event set up so a few names in the Delaware GOP would endorse Romney in order to bolster their own political aspirations. I won't be voting for Jeff Cragg now.

Hopefully Paul will visit Delaware sometime too. If he held an event at the University of Delaware he could easily draw in over 1000. Unfortunately, many of them would be out-of-state college students, or those who are registered as independents and democrats - and unable to vote in the Republican primary.

Although you are right. At the end of the day, how many TRUE Romney supporter have shown up at a rally or event? Maybe 300? At most 500? That's the point.

It's as simple as this:
us
Between the ages 18-30 (the future of this country) gets its news online and from various sites. Whereas a lot of the baby-boomers get their news from the little man in the TV (Fox, CNN, MSNBC). So, they believe what they hear from them.

We, the 18-30 yr olds, know better. Either way, we will win. As the 18-30 age group gets older, we will take over.

It's as simple as that.

wgadget
04-11-2012, 06:17 AM
Hey, hey, HEY...There are LOT of older Ron Paul supporters as well. The media only want people to THINK it's just you young toadstools.

WilliamC
04-11-2012, 06:50 AM
The simple truth is that Ron Paul has fewer supporters in this country than Romney at this moment, Ron Paul supporters are more prone to attend rallies, and a lot of Ron Paul supporters don't actually vote. I like seeing the big rallies though and of course the media is never fair!

Yes but why?

What this does is make the contrast quite clear between those of us who get all our information from mainstream television, radio, and other old media versus those of us who get ours primarily through the internet.

Operation Mockingbird is working to prevent any coverage of Ron Paul's record setting crowds, because those images would be powerful to the average tv watching American. Anyone who isn't completely dead above the neck can see the hypocrisy and outright lies that permeate television and radio, especially any form of news, but most refuse to stop watching, much less turn it off.

So, when a big change does come, which it will, most people won't seriously pay attention until it 1) disrupts their normal television brainswashing session for the day or 2) is actually shown on television for what it really is. That gives us who aren't hooked on the brainwashing a few days advantage, as the zombies start coming out of their conditioning and looking at the real world for the first time in their lives.

If this is you, stop watching television. If there's one thing I can do her at RPF it's to get ya'll to turn off your televisions and stop brainwashing yourselves.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DUH38nwmYAQ/TiOCgtwgjJI/AAAAAAAAAMs/p2wnj4xj_KU/s1600/tv_zombie.jpg

TruckinMike
04-11-2012, 07:23 AM
Hey, hey, HEY...There are LOT of older Ron Paul supporters as well. The media only want people to THINK it's just you young toadstools.+rep for Righteous Indignation! Power to the old farts!!

Paul Or Nothing II
04-11-2012, 07:53 AM
romney has more soft support

Because Romney is "electable", while Ron is "unelectable"; what has yet been done to counter this meme?

VA, where it was simply Paul v romney, Romney won 60-40! That shows where the problem is!

Most of the "Romney-vote" isn't really "Romney-vote" at all, it's the "anti-Obama-vote" so if Paul is to win then he must first be established as the BEST anti-Obama candidate, with his support among Independents & Democrats otherwise, Ron's not getting anywhere!


http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-draws-small-sleepy-crowd

Posted Jan 17, 2012 9:36am EST

Share

Email.FLORENCE, South Carolina—Mitt Romney drew a lackluster crowd at a morning rally here, unable to fill even the smaller space his advance staff had blocked off for the event.

Standing on a low stage at the center of the small crowd, Romney gave his standard stump speech, drawing just a smattering of applause on the usual lines.

Only 100 supporters attended the event, billed as a "Grassroots Rally and Discusses Jobs and the Economy with Supporters" by the campaign. Staffers removed the tall ladder at the side of the room to prevent photographers from capturing the vast empty space between the press file and the crowd.

Really funny :D


Although you are right. At the end of the day, how many TRUE Romney supporter have shown up at a rally or event? Maybe 300? At most 500? That's the point.

It's as simple as this:
us
Between the ages 18-30 (the future of this country) gets its news online and from various sites. Whereas a lot of the baby-boomers get their news from the little man in the TV (Fox, CNN, MSNBC). So, they believe what they hear from them.

We, the 18-30 yr olds, know better. Either way, we will win. As the 18-30 age group gets older, we will take over.

It's as simple as that.

Nice to see some positive attitude in the midst of all the quitter-posts :)

Yes, it's not about today or tomorrow but in the long-run, Ron Paul has ignited such a fire that could possibly burn the weeds of tyranny

Bossobass
04-11-2012, 08:40 AM
Ok, so they spend their money & time to attend rallies, hours standing outside & everything & then they don't vote? What kind of RIDICULOUS claim is that! If they're so enthused to attend his rallies, put in their money & time just to listen to "boring" lecture by a septuagenerian, if they show so much dedication then SURELY they DO vote but their votes don't get counted because of the fraudulent voting-scam
Now, I'm NOT saying Paul-supporters are majority or anything, they're likely not BUT if voting was done fairly then he'd be doing much better & that in itself would have more people considering him just like they did Santorum!

This ^^

Except for one thing... I AM saying RP has far more supporters than the other 3 combined.

Had the Ames Straw Poll and Iowa Caucus results been handled as they should have been by the press and the voting system in this Too-Big-To-Fail shithole was legitimate and verifiable, the rest would have been history... and THEY know it.

There are just some lead-skulls and shills on this forum who preach that Oswald was the lone nut who fired the magic bullet.

Every night for a year, ALL of the TV media has presented an infomercial for the hand-picked gaggle of stooges in line to run 'against' Obama, and RON PAUL WASN'T INVITED. Despite that he won the Iowa Caucuses. There is massive fraud in the media, in the ballot boxes, in the electronic vote machines, in the debate moderation and it goes all the way to the top and beyond.

Bosso

row333au
04-11-2012, 05:18 PM
Internet Search guide: use the following terms:

2012 ron paul delegate count

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The Associated Press (AP) reported 40 people at a Ron Paul event in Hudsonville, Michigan when photographs showed two thousand.

They reported 1,000 people at an event in Missouri while their own AP photograph of the event, which captured only part of the audience, numbered 2,500.

Although they have been challenged and criticize by the public, they make no concerted effort to correct any of these with no public apologies to admit the inaccuracy or lies.

The New York Times were confirmed of making no effort at a delegate count of their own, they rely fully on the AP.

http://dougwead.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/romney-pic1.jpg

http://dougwead.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/rp-last-night1.jpg

Fox News lies about Ron Paul claiming he stopped having campaign events

http://www.dailypaul.com/224949/fox-news-lies-about-ron-paul-claiming-he-stopped-having-campaign-events

http://www.examiner.com/elections-2010-in-wilmington/fox-news-lies-about-ron-paul-claiming-he-stopped-having-campaign-events


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RU24M72TtM&feature=player_embedded#!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pyAHBtnTFSM

AngelClark
04-11-2012, 10:41 PM
Does the author have a podcast?

oh! I get to promote :) yup - Radiofreedom.us is one website and sussexcountyangel.com is another. I talk and write for a living ;)

Also, DEGuy stated that the comparison didn't matter because Ron Paul was in Texas and Romney was in Delaware. Wilmington is a pretty establishment town, and Christine O'Donnell promoted that she would be there (Delaware's good ol' TEA Party gal). Last week Ron Paul had 8,500 people at an event in CA. The issue is that not many people want to stand in line for hours to hear Romney talk.