My high school has Ron Paul content blocked

[Natriot]

Hi. I haven't posted in a while, but I grounded my mom from the forums because she forgot my name.

I'm doing a paper on Ron for my English class and every time I tried to get at an article or video, I got a message that says

"Blocked for obscene, tasteless material."

I had no trouble looking up anything on Romney or Santorum. (Frothy is blocked, however).

Public Edumacation at it's finest.

Nate

[InTradePro]

https://startpage.com/, If that gets blocked then try https://www.google.com

[edit] Ah, blocking content not searches. More complex to get around.

[ClydeCoulter]

https://startpage.com/, If that gets blocked then try https://www.google.com

[edit] Ah, blocking content not searches. More complex to get around.

or https://duckduckgo.com/ scratch that :(

[ClydeCoulter]

Have you complained about it to the administrators?

[Natriot]

or https://duckduckgo.com/ scratch that :(

my mom just said if i get suspended for getting around it and watching the videos she doesn't care =] hahahahahahah finally

[thoughtomator]

You're not authorized to know about Ron Paul, citizen. Where did you learn that name?

[QuickZ06]

Have your mom talk to the school.

[InTradePro]

nvm

[Lishy]

You're not authorized to know about Ron Paul, citizen. Where did you learn that name?
You're not authorized to tell me what to do, BITCH!

[Natriot]

Have you complained about it to the administrators?

my friends brother is the junior tech guy who just started working there he said he will give me the admin password to get through until he can get the senior guy to get them off the block list or as its called in our school the black list makes it seem like im searching for black market body parts.

[tommy949]

GO UP TO THE SCHOOLBOARD, GET A BUNCH OF RON PAUL SUPPORTERS AND GO SHUT THEM DOWN!!! FORCE THEM TO LET YOU USE IT USING WHATEVER IS NECESSARY

[NikolayaRadchenkova]

Hi. I haven't posted in a while, but I grounded my mom from the forums because she forgot my name.

You grounded your mother? How does that work?!

[Natriot]

Have you complained about it to the administrators?

yea I told my principal but he said there must be a reason they are blocked and i said why because its not bull like the rest of the politicians videos I may have a detention
coming up lol.

[tommy949]

They shouldn't be censoring the internet in the first place, schools should have absolutely no authority to censor websites or material and say to your principal, it is the freedom of the internet that allows you to do this at school. I haven't checked if ron paul is blocked in this area yet but it really doesn't matter because in our speech and debate team, we can bring laptops and connect to our speech and debate wifi at anytime bypassing the school's firewall by using other proxy software, I forgot what it was called

[ItsTime]

What blocking software do they used? Did someone manually add "Ron Paul" to the censor list or is it a bigger problem that the people sell the software have it preloaded or in their latest update?

[PierzStyx]

They shouldn't be censoring the internet in the first place, schools should have absolutely no authority to censor websites or material But don't they have a right to decide how their property is used? The computers are theirs, more or less. They can decide how they get used. They aren't depriving you of your rights as you can go use your own computer to look at whatever you want.

[azxd]

Have your mom talk to the school.I second this idea, and would like to know the name of the school ... We could bombard the school district for you, and help remove this limitation, if you would like.

Well,
At least I'll write the school district about this, if you want ... Your choice.

Work arounds exist and have been suggested, but you shouldn't have to deal with this ... It violates academic freedom.

[Natriot]

You grounded your mother? How does that work?!

well she was glowing unnaturally i havent eaten in a week and i have no clean underwear it was time. that and the random remarks of Are You shitting me and F*** you frothy coming from the computer room kept me up at night she will be back in due time dont worry

[azxd]

But don't they have a right to decide how their property is used? The computers are theirs, more or less. They can decide how they get used. They aren't depriving you of your rights as you can go use your own computer to look at whatever you want.True ... It is their equipment.

I'd go above the school ... Straight to the district ... Have Mom file a formal complaint, claim academic freedom and threaten to seek damages for intentionally hampering ALL childrens ability to investigate the political process that IS this nation.

[Natriot]

What blocking software do they used? Did someone manually add "Ron Paul" to the censor list or is it a bigger problem that the people sell the software have it preloaded or in their latest update?

Im not sure I will ask the Tech guy as he is a friend of mine but he did say he would try and take them off block list so it may just be the sites the articles were on but the words getting blocked seemed to be ron paul because i could watch videos about romney on same political site

[tommy949]

I second this idea, and would like to know the name of the school ... We could bombard the school district for you, and help remove this limitation, if you would like.

Well,
At least I'll write the school district about this, if you want ... Your choice.

Work arounds exist and have been suggested, but you shouldn't have to deal with this ... It violates academic freedom.


well she was glowing unnaturally i havent eaten in a week and i have no clean underwear it was time. that and the random remarks of Are You shitting me and F*** you frothy coming from the computer room kept me up at night she will be back in due time dont worry
Are you being abused by your mother, get some community help from your friends and neighbors!

[Natriot]

They shouldn't be censoring the internet in the first place, schools should have absolutely no authority to censor websites or material and say to your principal, it is the freedom of the internet that allows you to do this at school. I haven't checked if ron paul is blocked in this area yet but it really doesn't matter because in our speech and debate team, we can bring laptops and connect to our speech and debate wifi at anytime bypassing the school's firewall by using other proxy software, I forgot what it was called

Ill get around it in due time just dont wanna get internet privileges blocked because im doing big paper on black hole thermodynamics so when im finished with it I will work on getting through

[azxd]

Im not sure I will ask the Tech guy as he is a friend of mine but he did say he would try and take them off block list so it may just be the sites the articles were on but the words getting blocked seemed to be ron paul because i could watch videos about romney on same political siteStart creating a list of blocked sites.

I can understand them blocking porn, but not political stuff.

[Natriot]

I second this idea, and would like to know the name of the school ... We could bombard the school district for you, and help remove this limitation, if you would like.

Well,
At least I'll write the school district about this, if you want ... Your choice.

Work arounds exist and have been suggested, but you shouldn't have to deal with this ... It violates academic freedom.

Thank you if nothing is done by end of this school week coming up i will be glad to have you guys help out but I think I've bugged them enough lately they are getting tired of it.

[Natriot]

Start creating a list of blocked sites.

I can understand them blocking porn, but not political stuff.

Yea they were all political sites I will print off a list and take it to next school board meeting

[tommy949]

Oh noes, are they going to get the fascist police to arrest you for looking at Ron Paul?

[alucard13mmfmj]

Ah.. blocking Ron Paul... letting you search for Santorum or Romney... and singing songs about how great our dear leader, Obama is ^^

[PierzStyx]

True ... It is their equipment.

I'd go above the school ... Straight to the district ... Have Mom file a formal complaint, claim academic freedom and threaten to seek damages for intentionally hampering ALL childrens ability to investigate the political process that IS this nation.

This is the best idea. Skip the school altogether. Get your mom, some fellow R supporters, and even a few ACLU liberals into the mix, and raise hell at the district level.

[azxd]

This is the best idea. Skip the school altogether. Get your mom, some fellow R supporters, and even a few ACLU liberals into the mix, and raise hell at the district level.As much as I loath the ACLU for departing from it's original purpose, they do have a way of making waves.

[BlackTerrel]

How exactly does this work? You can't read any content that has to do with Ron Paul? Even YouTube videos that have Ron Paul in the name?

Maybe... but this strikes me as a bit odd.

[Occam's Banana]

But don't they have a right to decide how their property is used? The computers are theirs, more or less. They can decide how they get used. They aren't depriving you of your rights as you can go use your own computer to look at whatever you want.


True ... It is their equipment.

I'd go above the school ... Straight to the district ... Have Mom file a formal complaint, claim academic freedom and threaten to seek damages for intentionally hampering ALL childrens ability to investigate the political process that IS this nation.
If it's a public (read: government) school we're talking about here, then it damn well isn't "theirs."

[emazur]

what about this?
http://paul.house.gov/

[tommy949]

If it's a public (read: government) school we're talking about here, then it damn well isn't "theirs."
It damn well isn't theirs, the taxpayers paid for it and if the residents that live in the parameter of the school district decide that they can, they can.

[azxd]

If it's a public (read: government) school we're talking about here, then it damn well isn't "theirs."It's under their control ... Don't fool yourself with technicalities ;)

[fisharmor]

http://youtu.be/mK-QR88yfOE

[heavenlyboy34]

hmmm, a government school suppressing a State dissident and libertarian...I haz teh surprised! :eek: /sarcasm

[ClydeCoulter]

But don't they have a right to decide how their property is used? The computers are theirs, more or less. They can decide how they get used. They aren't depriving you of your rights as you can go use your own computer to look at whatever you want.

Get Real. That stuff belongs to the students and parents. We pay for it. Are you a troll or just lack understanding about where the money comes from. Property Tax is one place, among other taxes.

Obama Money, really?

[Occam's Banana]

It's under their control ... Don't fool yourself with technicalities ;)
Oh, I'm not fooled - I'm under no illusions whatsoever in that regard. ;)
I was just reacting to the implication that what they are (or seem to be) doing is justifiable on the basis of property rights.

[Seth]

Property that they stole from the tax payers...

[Natriot]

How exactly does this work? You can't read any content that has to do with Ron Paul? Even YouTube videos that have Ron Paul in the name?

Maybe... but this strikes me as a bit odd.


youtube is unavailable at our school most of time because of networking problems

[No Free Beer]

Buy a Ron Paul shirt.

Wear it to school.

Walk up to your Principal.

Say: An idea whose time has come cannot by stopped by any administrator or any educator!

Natriot 1 - School 0.

[tommy949]

Or carry a ron paul sign everywhere during school and see if they confiscate it and if they do, say: You are in big trouble, you just violated the 4th amendment, got a warrant for your search!

[RonRules]

What bothers me about the Ron Paul blocking is that your school probably uses a common "net-nanny" type of program that ALL schools use. can you find out anything about the name and version number? It is important that the makers of this software be contacted EN MASSE to get that changed.

[BlackTerrel]

What bothers me about the Ron Paul blocking is that your school probably uses a common "net-nanny" type of program that ALL schools use. can you find out anything about the name and version number? It is important that the makers of this software be contacted EN MASSE to get that changed.

I would be extremely surprised if there is a specific software that blocks mention of Ron Paul. In fact I'll give a thousand dollars to anyone who finds a software that blocks Ron Paul and sells that software to public schools.

[tangent4ronpaul]

You're not authorized to tell me what to do, BITCH!

Good attitude!
+rep

-t

[KEEF]

I would be extremely surprised if there is a specific software that blocks mention of Ron Paul. In fact I'll give a thousand dollars to anyone who finds a software that blocks Ron Paul and sells that software to public schools.

The software, from my understandings, just catches key words and then blocks them and/or specific sites that were keyed out by school admin. were blocked.

[RonRules]

The software, from my understandings, just catches key words and then blocks them and/or specific sites that were keyed out by school admin. were blocked.

This type of software certainly comes with a standard default list, which gets updated probably daily, much like a virus definition file. The reason is that there are many thousand porn and other wise websites that schools want to avoid. You can't expect the school administrators to keep that list up to date, so it's probably done by the software company.

It is likely that on top of the standard default list that the school administrators can add supplementary key words. What I'd like to know is if the name "Ron Paul" was added locally or if it's in there by default.

Here's Net Nanny
http://www.netnanny.com/features

[BlackTerrel]

This type of software certainly comes with a standard default list, which gets updated probably daily, much like a virus definition file. The reason is that there are many thousand porn and other wise websites that schools want to avoid. You can't expect the school administrators to keep that list up to date, so it's probably done by the software company.

It is likely that on top of the standard default list that the school administrators can add supplementary key words. What I'd like to know is if the name "Ron Paul" was added locally or if it's in there by default.

Here's Net Nanny
http://www.netnanny.com/features

I'm skeptical that a school administrator even put that in. I think the OP is likely exaggerating though it is possible he is not.

What I am damn certain on is that no legit company that is selling this software to schools is specifically excluding Ron Paul. These companies exist to make money. If this was out there you really think this is the first we would have heard of it.

[tangent4ronpaul]

What bothers me about the Ron Paul blocking is that your school probably uses a common "net-nanny" type of program that ALL schools use. can you find out anything about the name and version number? It is important that the makers of this software be contacted EN MASSE to get that changed.

An interesting observation. i've seen instructions on bypassing net-nanny and other censorship software. Saying you will distribute that along w/ Rant might go somewhere - just don't tell them about spefic exploits...

-t

[abruzz0]

Blocking Ron Paul material is far more of a concern to the school than blocking porn, cuz if you watch Ron Paul, you might actually *gasp* learn "subversive" material and thus not agree with everything they "teach" you in these Federally controlled paramilitary social-engineering death squad camp reeducation centers.

[tommy949]

Blocking Ron Paul material is far more of a concern to the school than blocking porn, cuz if you watch Ron Paul, you might actually *gasp* learn "subversive" material and thus not agree with everything they "teach" you in these Federally controlled paramilitary social-engineering death squad camp reeducation centers.
Damn, I know right

[CaptainAmerica]

http://stopabortioncensorship.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/censorship-1.jpg

[Carehn]

Why don't you just go into your principals office like a man and tell him you don't have time for his reindeer games and if he insists on sqandering your tax money you will take them to court of law.

BS just pretend like your 45 and you don't give a god damn what those citydiots think. Tell them to unlock the dam internet your paying for

[abruzz0]

I remember my high school having infowars.com blocked. This was like 8 or 9 years ago, too.

[SpicyTurkey]

Go to your principal, and word rape his ass.

[Tinnuhana]

Another consideration: if the staff is spending too much time there, admin might block it in the interest of keeping teachers on task during their extra time.
As far as nannyware, we knew there was a problem with some since they blocked things like Dick Nixon.
We couldn't use FaceBook here until the big tsunami. Since then, they let us use it so family and friends in the states could find out if we were alright without frying the phone lines to Japan and such.

[jdcole]

I work in network engineering/network security/satellite communications.

Chances are it's a hardware firewall that is blocking whatever it is you are looking for. Sometimes they can be dynamic blocks (aka blocking streaming content but not static web content), and sometimes they are straight-up URL blocks.

I'm not on the bandwagon of "complain to the school board" etc. You did the right thing by bringing it up to the administrators themselves - they are the ones who have the best ability to check whether what you are trying to reach is legitimate content or BS.

On top of that - yes, they do need content filters in public schools. Students are at school to learn. An unfiltered connection leads to more problems than not - unauthorized access to pornography, illegal file sharing (yes, it is a problem in this setting. No, I will not argue this point), and non-school related usage (online games, chat rooms, etc). If allowed, students would abuse the privilege and not be off of the computers. I Students are at school for a single purpose - to get an education. Any other benefit or goal is secondary to that. Play games, download warez, stream media, and hang out on social networks at home.

[alucard13mmfmj]

ah school... the place where we get indoctrinated to be good little working members of society.

it seems interesting that they block Ron Paul... like it was equivalent to porno. what next? block thomas jefferson? block constitution? lolzzz. protecting young minds from radical ideas?!

[thoughtomator]

Students are at school for a single purpose - to get an education.

You must be new here.

[papitosabe]

GO UP TO THE SCHOOLBOARD, GET A BUNCH OF RON PAUL SUPPORTERS AND GO SHUT THEM DOWN!!! FORCE THEM TO LET YOU USE IT USING WHATEVER IS NECESSARY

hell yea!!

good job talking to the principal and standing up to this bullshit.... I never in a million years would have done that.. We all drank the Koolaid back then.... Glad the younger generation is nothing like mine... He'll, even when in college in the 90's no one stood up as much as this generation... Props to you guys....

[Barrex]

Theme for your next paper:
GOVERNMENT/SCHOOL CENSORSHIP

(use this as an exsample)

[tbone717]

Don't know if anyone has asked this, but can you get to the official campaign site? If so, then is your problem only getting to videos and articles as you mentioned in the OP. If that is the case, then possibly the filters are blocking the content because of language used in the comments section of the videos and articles.

Have you had similar problems finding videos and articles from other candidates?

[jmdrake]

Hi. I haven't posted in a while, but I grounded my mom from the forums because she forgot my name.

I'm doing a paper on Ron for my English class and every time I tried to get at an article or video, I got a message that says

"Blocked for obscene, tasteless material."

I had no trouble looking up anything on Romney or Santorum. (Frothy is blocked, however).

Public Edumacation at it's finest.

Nate

Is RonPaul2012.com blocked? If yes please screenshot that and post it here. In fact could you screenshot examples of what's being blocked? If the official campaign website is blocked that should be sent to the campaign. This could be newsworthy.

[jmdrake]

Use https://startpage.com/ and click the view with 'View by Ixquick Proxy' under your choosen link, that may work.

Most school filters now block any url with the word "proxy" in it. You can see archives of banned sites at http://archive.org though.

[azxd]

Oh, I'm not fooled - I'm under no illusions whatsoever in that regard. ;)
I was just reacting to the implication that what they are (or seem to be) doing is justifiable on the basis of property rights.


Property that they stole from the tax payers...Like this LOL

[jdcole]

Were they political sites in general, or Ron Paul-centric sites.

[jdcole]

The government is an asshole, no doubt, but I doubt there is any true anti-paul malicious intent here. I am more willing to bet that political sites in general are blocked.

[thoughtomator]

Theme for your next paper:
GOVERNMENT/SCHOOL CENSORSHIP

(use this as an exsample)

We have a winner

[The Gold Standard]

I'm skeptical that a school administrator even put that in. I think the OP is likely exaggerating though it is possible he is not.

What I am damn certain on is that no legit company that is selling this software to schools is specifically excluding Ron Paul. These companies exist to make money. If this was out there you really think this is the first we would have heard of it.

You are suggesting he is lying? Wouldn't it be easier just to tell the truth rather than go through this whole charade? The easiest answer is always best, right? You are quite the conspiracy nut.

[BKom]

As much as I loath the ACLU for departing from it's original purpose, they do have a way of making waves.

I love the ACLU. Here in Nevada, they are great. They're defenders of civil liberties, and they're more pro-gun than the Republican party ever was. And when I lived in PA, they defended gun rights people who set up a gun appraising table during a city run gun "buyback" program, set up to destroy guns.

Call the ACLU. One letter from them and I can almost guarantee the school board will back right down.

[tommy949]

The ACLU, the gods who saved America and African Americans :)

[MelissaWV]

You are suggesting he is lying? Wouldn't it be easier just to tell the truth rather than go through this whole charade? The easiest answer is always best, right? You are quite the conspiracy nut.

In all fairness, my first thought was that perhaps there are problems with the sites the OP was visiting. For instance, the software at my school would definitely not allow Ron Paul forums to be pulled up for obvious reasons. It also would have blocked most YouTube videos that allowed comments, since they are usually full of vulgarity and the like. It might be, then, that the other candidates' videos and stuff don't have comments enabled. There might be an easier solution to this.

I agree that the OP should try the official website and, if it's blocked, ask why.

[The Gold Standard]

In all fairness, my first thought was that perhaps there are problems with the sites the OP was visiting. For instance, the software at my school would definitely not allow Ron Paul forums to be pulled up for obvious reasons. It also would have blocked most YouTube videos that allowed comments, since they are usually full of vulgarity and the like. It might be, then, that the other candidates' videos and stuff don't have comments enabled. There might be an easier solution to this.

I agree that the OP should try the official website and, if it's blocked, ask why.

I'm just busting his balls because he so voraciously attacks anyone who believes in any conspiracy perpetrated by the government but seems to have much less faith in the integrity of the general population.

[Mashedtaders]

Look up a website for "Proxies" and then follow the instructions on how to insert that into your browser at school. It will bypass the blocking program. If your school blocks proxy searches then look it up on someone's smartphone.

[Natriot]

Is RonPaul2012.com blocked? If yes please screenshot that and post it here. In fact could you screenshot examples of what's being blocked? If the official campaign website is blocked that should be sent to the campaign. This could be newsworthy.

im actually quite sure it was im not certain but i believe ronpaul2012.com was blocked not sure ill check on tuesday when i get back.

[DerailingDaTrain]

At my HS they had all political stuff blocked, games, most news sites, anything not associated with "learning" will be blocked.

[BlackTerrel]

You are suggesting he is lying? Wouldn't it be easier just to tell the truth rather than go through this whole charade? The easiest answer is always best, right? You are quite the conspiracy nut.

I never said lying I think it is an exaggeration. We're 70 posts in and I'm one of the few that is even a little bit skeptical.

I hate group think and I don't like when everyone gets all excited about something without any evidence.

Some software whose goal is to make money went out of their way to block Ron Paul? I find that highly unlikely.

[jbauer]

At my HS they had all political stuff blocked, games, most news sites, anything not associated with "learning" will be blocked.

News and politics isn't learning? We had "current events" during social studies and we certainly studied politics in political science.

[DerailingDaTrain]

News and politics isn't learning? We had "current events" during social studies and we certainly studied politics in political science.

Basically if a website had ads on it or required java it would be blocked.

Also, yes, news and politics isn't acceptable in school. Don't believe me? Try talking about how 9/11 was blowback during one of those "current events" sessions in social studies. Try doing a search on a school computer for anything about terrorism and see what happens. You have been warned.

[Fraulein]

Why is this thread STILL on Grassroots?


Get it out. It's interfering with actual Grassroots threads that require attention.