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Tyler_Durden
04-07-2012, 09:09 AM
On January 18, 2012, Ron Paul posted to his Facebook:


"My campaign, and the entire freedom movement, would not be as strong as they are today without a free Internet, and that's just one of the reasons why the establishment hopes to censor it with SOPA and PIPA. I'm proud to see so many taking a stand today. Contact your representative and senators and tell them to oppose these disastrous bills."

That status update received 46k+ "likes" and 9400 "shares". His page was receiving over 1000 new "likes" per hour that day. It was a very important topic made public by heavy hitter like Google, Reddit, Wikipedia, etc.

Ron Paul needs to do the same thing regarding CISPA. He needs to take it on in his speeches and In Social Media. CISPA is bad news. Laws like these will affect us deeply and will affect the Liberty Movement.

https://www.wikileaks-forum.com/index.php/topic,10219.0.html?PHPSESSID=6497cbc59f306b9db0612 4648aff8a42

Algorres
04-07-2012, 09:34 AM
A call to arms from Dr. Paul on this could be a momentum shifter. Once they grab hold of the internet we are all done for.

Tiso0770
04-07-2012, 09:52 AM
New Internet Censorship Bill: CISPA

Looks like Congress isn't done trying to censor the internet after all. After public outcry drew attention to the overreach of SOPA and PIPA, we thought we may be done with tone-deaf internet snooping bills. Nope.

SOPA & PIPA Sponsors Back Off
SOPA & PIPA: Blackout to Protest Web Censorship Bills

H.R. 3523, the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), sponsored by Mike (R-MI) and C.A. Ruppersberger (D-MD) would allow companies and the government to spy on your online activity with no real limits and no real liabilities.

If you guessed that whomever would be snooping through your emails and web purchase history would hide behind the excuse of "the need for cybersecurity so the terrorists don't get us", you'd be right.

As was the case with SOPA and PIPA, the wording of CISPA is vague enough for us to question if its proponents have ever actually used the internet. The government would be able to spy upon, block, or censor any online communication or activity deemed "disruptive" to the government or "private parties". That just begs for follow-up questions, no?
Anonymous: 'Passing CISPA Would Be Unwise'
Anonymous - CISPA Worse than SOPA

see larger video

sourced by NowPublic Staff

The Electronic Frontier Foundation is sponsoring a petition to kill CISPA. Not only should Congress be made aware that CISPA is an ill-concieved threat to the First Amendment, but Americans deserve that any internet legislation be crafted by lawmakers who know what the internet actually is. That is yet to happen, it would seem. It's 2012: this level of ignorance about the web is not acceptable in a member of Congress.

Network providers like Verison and AT&T, as well as Facebook, actually support CISPA though that may change if a SOPA-sized outcry ensues. Such companies support CISPA because the bill would tear down restrictions on how they share information.

CDT has an article on what would make for good cybersecurity legislation. These items are mostly missing from CISPA.


show cosponsors (106)
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Rep. Michele Bachmann [R-MN6]
Rep. Dan Boren [D-OK2]
Rep. Michael Burgess [R-TX26]
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Rep. Ben Chandler [D-KY6]
Rep. Michael Conaway [R-TX11]
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Rep. Sue Myrick [R-NC9]
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Rep. Mike Pompeo [R-KS4]
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Rep. Lee Terry [R-NE2]
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http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3523
http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/cispa-new-internet-spying-bill-worse-sopa-pipa-2911440.html

FSP-Rebel
04-07-2012, 10:36 AM
Lots of so-called Tea Party reps there^
http://i39.tinypic.com/2jg3tj6.jpg

FSP-Rebel
04-07-2012, 10:40 AM
Oh, don't forget to email your rep: https://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8444

Drex
04-07-2012, 10:43 AM
Thank God my rep isn't on there... yet.. but the other 2 Nebraska reps are... Do you know if any of the represenatives offices are open today? I feel a (polite) phone call coming on ;)

pipewerKz
04-07-2012, 10:43 AM
Letters to Congress in SUPPORT of CISPA: http://intelligence.house.gov/bill/cyber-intelligence-sharing-and-protection-act-2011

AT&T
Boeing
BSA
Business Roundtable
CSC
COMPTEL
CTIA - The Wireless Association
Cyber, Space & Intelligence Association
Edison Electric
EMC
Exelon
Facebook
The Financial Services Roundtable
IBM
Independent Telephone & Telecommunications Alliance
Information Technology Industry Council
Intel
Internet Security Alliance
Lockheed Martin
Microsoft
National Cable & Telecommunications Association
NDIA
Oracle
Symantec
TechAmerica
US Chamber of Commerce
US Telecom - The Broadband Association
Verizon

Algorres
04-07-2012, 01:13 PM
Congress is on recess until April 16th. The time to act on this is short.

Lishy
04-07-2012, 01:21 PM
What the.. WHAT the hell is even going on in their damn heads?! They make less sense than a homeless man on shrooms!

It worries me Intel and Microsoft are on this list... Since most of us use Windows (Course, I would recommend Linux...)

Conspiracy theories aside, WHY would they support this!? Like, what the hell is even their given reason!?

chris41336
04-07-2012, 01:27 PM
God damn it, my Rep is on that list and I'm supposed to be working with him to help me get a local position in town. Now I'm going to feel dirty....

Oh well. Machiavelli would call me crazy for even thinking it was wrong to use a pawn like him to get ahead due to his views.

PolicyReader
04-08-2012, 12:07 AM
On January 18, 2012, Ron Paul posted to his Facebook:


"My campaign, and the entire freedom movement, would not be as strong as they are today without a free Internet, and that's just one of the reasons why the establishment hopes to censor it with SOPA and PIPA. I'm proud to see so many taking a stand today. Contact your representative and senators and tell them to oppose these disastrous bills."

That status update received 46k+ "likes" and 9400 "shares". His page was receiving over 1000 new "likes" per hour that day. It was a very important topic made public by heavy hitter like Google, Reddit, Wikipedia, etc.

Ron Paul needs to do the same thing regarding CISPA. He needs to take it on in his speeches and In Social Media. CISPA is bad news. Laws like these will affect us deeply and will affect the Liberty Movement.

https://www.wikileaks-forum.com/index.php/topic,10219.0.html?PHPSESSID=6497cbc59f306b9db0612 4648aff8a42

Hey Ben, have you pushed any of this towards our public persona yet? Or out via e-mail to any of the 'powers that be' ?

This is a very real issue as well as a very real opportunity for the Paul campaign.
It is also a blazing example of why we need Paul in 2012, waiting could cost us dearly indeed.

Titus
04-08-2012, 12:17 AM
This would pretty much be SOPA and PIPA. Any copyright infringement could be "dangerous to private parties", so just seize and monitor. Gah. Want to organize a boycott? Expect government monitoring. Want to develop a new tech? Big corporate players will beat you to the patent office. Argh.

csu1987
04-08-2012, 03:59 AM
On January 18, 2012, Ron Paul posted to his Facebook:

That status update received 46k+ "likes" and 9400 "shares". His page was receiving over 1000 new "likes" per hour that day. It was a very important topic made public by heavy hitter like Google, Reddit, Wikipedia, etc.

Ron Paul needs to do the same thing regarding CISPA. He needs to take it on in his speeches and In Social Media. CISPA is bad news. Laws like these will affect us deeply and will affect the Liberty Movement.

https://www.wikileaks-forum.com/index.php/topic,10219.0.html?PHPSESSID=6497cbc59f306b9db0612 4648aff8a42


Agreed.

Tyler_Durden
04-08-2012, 08:59 AM
Hey Ben, have you pushed any of this towards our public persona yet? Or out via e-mail to any of the 'powers that be' ?

This is a very real issue as well as a very real opportunity for the Paul campaign.
It is also a blazing example of why we need Paul in 2012, waiting could cost us dearly indeed.

I emailed you (Ben Swann), Doug Wead, Jack Hunter, and the Coalition's Social Media person. Wead emailed back and said it's a great idea. Hopefully, he'll relay the info to the Campaign.

Lishy
04-08-2012, 09:09 AM
I HAVE AN IDEA!

Let's copyright something... AND DOWNLOAD IT OURSELVES! :O

We can troll the government!

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
04-08-2012, 09:18 AM
Letters to Congress in SUPPORT of CISPA: http://intelligence.house.gov/bill/cyber-intelligence-sharing-and-protection-act-2011

AT&T
Boeing
BSA
Business Roundtable
CSC
COMPTEL
CTIA - The Wireless Association
Cyber, Space & Intelligence Association
Edison Electric
EMC
Exelon
Facebook
The Financial Services Roundtable
IBM
Independent Telephone & Telecommunications Alliance
Information Technology Industry Council
Intel
Internet Security Alliance
Lockheed Martin
Microsoft
National Cable & Telecommunications Association
NDIA
Oracle
Symantec
TechAmerica
US Chamber of Commerce
US Telecom - The Broadband Association
Verizon


That's a sick looking list. I guess many of them expect to profit at the expense of peoples' privacy.

sailingaway
04-08-2012, 09:24 AM
This is all over twitter, and I tend to agree. I haven't actually read it yet, but the same people who were upset about SOPA are very upset about this.

Tyler_Durden
04-08-2012, 10:14 AM
This is all over twitter, and I tend to agree. I haven't actually read it yet, but the same people who were upset about SOPA are very upset about this.

I don't know how much clout this worldwide petition has, but over 500K have signed it in the past 3 days.

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa/?cl=1701871485&v=13511

Tyler_Durden
04-08-2012, 11:28 AM
Drudge is bringing attention to it by posting this article:

http://www.infowars.com/government-sureillance-crackdown-on-internet-goes-into-overdrive/

PolicyReader
04-08-2012, 02:35 PM
I emailed you (Ben Swann), Doug Wead, Jack Hunter, and the Coalition's Social Media person. Wead emailed back and said it's a great idea. Hopefully, he'll relay the info to the Campaign.

Excellent :) Nicely done Ben :cool:

PolicyReader
04-08-2012, 10:24 PM
Just a request if/when a campaign statement on this comes please post/link it to this thread so we can all make sure and point everyone at it for maximum exposure :D

Carson
04-08-2012, 10:37 PM
A call to arms from Dr. Paul on this could be a momentum shifter. Once they grab hold of the internet we are all done for.

Or forced to find some other way to express ourselves.

What the hlel is CISPA.

The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) allows companies to collect information about people and give it to the US government in the name of cyber security. The main problem with the bill is that it is so broad it can even lead to companies and the government monitoring and censoring what people say.

Oh then. Never mind.

http://photos.imageevent.com/stokeybob/morestuff/emilylitella.jpg

PolicyReader
04-10-2012, 03:07 PM
All the more reason to do this now.