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John F Kennedy III
04-05-2012, 02:16 PM
83-Year-Old Woman Denied Health Care Over “Carbon Footprint”

The case for killing granny meets global warming alarmism

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Thursday, April 5, 2012

If you want to get a glimpse of what life will be like under Obamacare, just look to the UK, where government-run health care continues to produce ludicrous stories like this – a pensioner who had visited the same doctor’s practice for 30 years was told to find a new GP because of concerns over the “carbon footprint” of her 2 mile round trip.

After 83-year-old Avril Mulcahy complained about a doctor, she was told that the practice had a problem over her “green traveling issues” and ordered her to re-register at another practice.

The the West Road Surgery in Westcliff-on-Sea, Essex, wrote a letter to the pensioner stating, “Our greatest concern is for your health and convenience but also taking into consideration green travelling issues. Re: Carbon footprints and winter weather conditions, we feel it would be advisable for patients to register at surgeries nearer to where they live. We would be very grateful if you could make the necessary arrangements to re-register at another practice.”

“When I read through the letter, I found it absolutely ridiculous they were saying the reason was to decrease their carbon footprint,” Mulcahy told the London Telegraph. “I have been a patient at the practice for 30 years now, and there has never been any problem.”

Mulcahy added that the episode had caused stress and prompted worries that she would not be able to obtain her prescription medication.

In the UK, patients cannot seek private health care without first being referred by a National Health Service GP. This can often take weeks because it is like a lottery attempting to get an NHS appointment. Government-run health care in the United Kingdom is notoriously poor and horror stories about wrong legs being amputated and other medical nightmares are routinely in the news.

Given the fact that death panels, euphemistically called “Payment Advisory Boards,” are a part of Obamacare, expect to see health authorities in the U.S. think up similarly inventive ways to deny treatment to the elderly.

Furthermore, if Bill Gates gets his way, the ‘case for killing granny’ – promoted by Newsweek Magazine – will become a reality under a state-run medical system.

During an Aspen Institute conference in 2010, Gates argued that elderly patients should be denied treatment and left to die because the money would be better spent on paying teachers’ wages.

Gates said there was a “lack of willingness” to consider the question of choosing between “spending a million dollars on that last three months of life for that patient” or laying off ten teachers.

“But that’s called the death panel and you’re not supposed to have that discussion,” added Gates.

Bringing the issue back full circle to the idea of ‘carbon footprints,’ Gates has publicly advocated that vaccines be used to lower population in order to reduce CO2 emissions, a task that could only be accomplished if such immunizations are used to sterilize people against their will.

The notion that people should be denied vital services and punished for not reducing their “carbon footprint” is a wet dream for climate change alarmist control freaks who have hijacked the environmental movement in their bid to create a tightly regulated society controlled by a ruthless technocracy.

An illustration emblematic of the attitude embraced by global warming alarmists is the video clip below, produced by the UK government-backed 10:10 organization, which portrayed children being violently killed for refusing to lower their carbon footprints.


rest of article here:
http://www.infowars.com/83-year-old-woman-denied-health-care-over-carbon-footprint/

dannno
04-05-2012, 02:25 PM
Well that's pretty crazy. I dunno if they are even forcing her to re-register or just suggesting, but either way it is pretty creepy. 1 mile to the doctor's office isn't that far.

aGameOfThrones
04-05-2012, 02:49 PM
Well that's pretty crazy. I dunno if they are even forcing her to re-register or just suggesting, but either way it is pretty creepy. 1 mile to the doctor's office isn't that far.

I see you're "anti-green-traveling". Shame on you!

tttppp
04-05-2012, 02:56 PM
I'm amazed someone as successful as Bill Gates would be so clueless in many other areas. I don't think he's had one success since Microsoft. And Microsoft itself hasn't done anything in more than a decade.

John F Kennedy III
04-05-2012, 03:03 PM
It makes me sick that there are actually people who think that these types of practices are great.


"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-forever." - George Orwell

THE DESCENT INTO TOTAL AND ABJECT TYRANNY IS ALMOST COMPLETE.

John F Kennedy III
04-05-2012, 05:39 PM
Bump

eduardo89
04-05-2012, 05:49 PM
In the UK, patients cannot seek private health care without first being referred by a National Health Service GP. This can often take weeks because it is like a lottery attempting to get an NHS appointment.

That's not true. I had private insurance when I liked in the UK and I just walked into any private practice that accepted my insurance (or any one where I could pay out of pocket, which my insurance would later reimburse me for) without needing ever to go through the NHS bureaucracy.

NewRightLibertarian
04-05-2012, 05:50 PM
I'm amazed someone as successful as Bill Gates would be so clueless in many other areas. I don't think he's had one success since Microsoft. And Microsoft itself hasn't done anything in more than a decade.

He's not clueless, he's evil

John F Kennedy III
04-05-2012, 05:53 PM
He's not clueless, he's evil

An evil eugenicist.

John F Kennedy III
04-05-2012, 05:54 PM
That's not true. I had private insurance when I liked in the UK and I just walked into any private practice that accepted my insurance (or any one where I could pay out of pocket, which my insurance would later reimburse me for) without needing ever to go through the NHS bureaucracy.

When was this?

eduardo89
04-05-2012, 05:56 PM
When was this?

2008-2010

John F Kennedy III
04-05-2012, 06:49 PM
2008-2010

Perhaps things have changed?

tttppp
04-05-2012, 06:56 PM
He's not clueless, he's evil

His actions at Microsoft would indicate he is evil. I don't know where people get off saying Bill Gates is now in the business of doing good around the world. Nothing he has done since Microsoft has been successful or benefited anyone.

eduardo89
04-05-2012, 06:56 PM
Perhaps things have changed?

I think theyre talking about before you can go to a private specialist and have the NHS pay for it you need a referral from your GP.

DamianTV
04-05-2012, 07:18 PM
The book 1984 was a Warning Shot, not a Blueprint.

John F Kennedy III
04-05-2012, 08:15 PM
The book 1984 was a Warning Shot, not a Blueprint.

This.

LibForestPaul
04-05-2012, 09:44 PM
That's not true. I had private insurance when I liked in the UK and I just walked into any private practice that accepted my insurance (or any one where I could pay out of pocket, which my insurance would later reimburse me for) without needing ever to go through the NHS bureaucracy.
Great!
The National Health Service or NHS is the publicly funded healthcare system in England. It is both the largest and oldest single-payer healthcare system in the world. It is able to function in the way that it does because it is primarily funded through the general taxation system.

eduardo89
04-05-2012, 09:48 PM
Great!
The National Health Service or NHS is the publicly funded healthcare system in England. It is both the largest and oldest single-payer healthcare system in the world. It is able to function in the way that it does because it is primarily funded through the general taxation system.

I know exactly what the NHS is and how it's funded. That's why I never used it a single time while I lived in the UK.

kezt777
04-05-2012, 09:58 PM
I lived just outside Oxford for over 2 years and was married to a Brit for 6 years and I did not even know that private GPs or surgeries even existed over there. No one I knew ever talked about them. Ever. Strange.

At any rate, I didnt mind the care I got there (first child born there and I got sick at the end, spending 17 days in hospital), and I chose to have a midwife instead of a doctor for the care and delivery (something that has only become an option in my province in Canada very recently), but I was there in 96-98 and things have changed a LOT in that time. I am forever reading on FB about friends from that same area having horrendous times with doc appts, waiting times for surgery, etc. But a lot can change in a decade+ when the money taps turn off.

oyarde
04-05-2012, 10:38 PM
Uh , at the risk of being a bit uncouth , fuck a carbon footprint , after I read this , I popped a beer , turned on the furnace , which I never do , just turned on the Amish electric fireplace from just light of two night light bulbs to full heat , and went out on the back porch a started up one of the lawn tractors , flipped on the front porch light , which , I never do , I already had the back porch lights and the outbuilding light on ....... Liberty !!!!

eduardo89
04-05-2012, 10:42 PM
I lived just outside Oxford for over 2 years and was married to a Brit for 6 years and I did not even know that private GPs or surgeries even existed over there. No one I knew ever talked about them. Ever. Strange.

Why would anyone? Care is "free". There is a growing market for private insurance though. I telnet back in 2009 there were ads for private insurance literally everywhere. I guess people finally are getting sick of subpar treatment the NHS offers.

donnay
04-05-2012, 11:16 PM
I'm amazed someone as successful as Bill Gates would be so clueless in many other areas. I don't think he's had one success since Microsoft. And Microsoft itself hasn't done anything in more than a decade.

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a front for total eugenics. Did you know his father, William H. Gates Sr., has long been involved with the eugenics group Planned Parenthood? American Eugenics Society is alive a booming across the globe.


http://www.guardian.co.uk

http://www.seattleglobaljustice.org

http://english.pravda.ru

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_21606.cfm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Eugenics_Society

http://www.naturalnews.com/033148_seed_companies_Monsanto.html

tttppp
04-05-2012, 11:19 PM
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a front for total eugenics. Did you know his father, William H. Gates Sr., has long been involved with the eugenics group Planned Parenthood? American Eugenics Society is alive a booming across the globe.


http://www.guardian.co.uk

http://www.seattleglobaljustice.org

http://english.pravda.ru

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_21606.cfm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Eugenics_Society

http://www.naturalnews.com/033148_seed_companies_Monsanto.html

I've got not proof, but I bet a big reason for their charities is so they can steal from them. Just like Cartmen always does on South Park.

donnay
04-05-2012, 11:22 PM
I've got not proof, but I bet a big reason for their charities is so they can steal from them. Just like Cartmen always does on South Park.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNyo0Gu7064


Bastard! :mad:

DamianTV
04-06-2012, 12:21 AM
"Carbon Footprint" is nothing more than another Tax on the average person who has no choice but to consume what is made available to them. As far as I am concerned, we could save the world a bunch of money by simply getting rid of the people that want to impose these Taxes on people for their own personal profits and gains.

NikolayaRadchenkova
04-06-2012, 12:47 AM
I'm currently living in London and thankfully my company pays for our insurance! When I got here I contracted some horrible infection in my sinuses and this was before my insurance kicked in. I had to register with the NHS, then wait for two full days before I could even see a GP. Luckily my company had filed for my insurance before this happened and my policy then covered my surgery to drain my sinuses! I'm sure I would have had to wait months if I had gone the NHS route.

PS: youtube how they drain your sinuses. They basically take a drill and put it in your nose into your sinuses and then all the goo leaks out. hehe it's so nasty!!

azxd
04-06-2012, 07:23 AM
I could care less what happens in another country.

kezt777
04-06-2012, 08:40 AM
The thing is azxd, people in the US want that kind of care. Too many of them do. I'm in Canada and have lived in Germany and England and I try to tell my US friends that this 'free' healthcare is not what they think it is and I have ONE friend that understands. ONE. That's it. The rest either argue or ignore my comments about it. And then I have Canadian friends who try to tell their American friends that they hope they get a system like our's. OMG. I actually got told not to post on my brother's partner's page anymore on FB when he posted a topic about american health care and said that Canada's is 'free'. I couldn't stand watching that go on anymore and watching all his american friends saying they hope to get a system like our's, so I posted a few truths and the next thing I knew, he was asking me not to post on that thread anymore. Holy crap was I mad. So I care what goes on in another country when I see droves of people in the US saying the same things we did up here decades ago, that 'healthcare should be free'.

As for other things going on outside of healthcare but in the range of taxes and carbon footprints - I look at that as well when I think of the size of the US debt. How is that going to be paid off with the current types of people at the helm? You should look up the taxes on vehicles in england - it is INSANE. And ultra confusing. I can't help but wonder if the US leaders will one day start adopting these kinds of taxes to pay off debt. When I lived there, everyone paid Road Tax and you had a little paper disc to stick on your windshield to advertise that yes, you were legally driving the car you purchased because you had the right license plates and also had your MOT inspection (yearly), and paid your Road Tax. But now it is based on what fuel efficiency/carbon emissions your vehicle has or produces. They have also greatly increased the amount people have to pay for flights. My son flew to england to see his dad last summer and is going again this summer - the advertised flight prices are pretty much the same as they were in 2006 when I flew over there, but the final cost is several hundred dollars higher (I was SHOCKED at the price) because of a $300 or $400 carbon emissions tax from flying in a stinky bad airplane. Wow. All of these little things here and there in other countries are ideas that US leaders could swipe in a supposed attempt to pay off the US debt, while of course gaining more control. I knew tons of people in England that still lived at home with their parents until well after age 30, did not own a car even when they had decent jobs because the cost was so high, etc - and now it's even worse 14 years later. My son's father was in the military for 22 years and retired last Feb but he is still without a job. He is very smart and did tons of courses in the few years before leaving the service, computer courses etc, to help him land a civilian job, but he cannot find one. I know he is feeling desperate. He has been continuously employed for 22 years (actually 23 because he joined at 17) and now suddenly jobless for a year and has two children to support. His wife was military as well (EMT) and left after being in Iraq, and she could not find a job in her field so she works in a factory. I feel like watching Canada, Britain, other parts of Europe, etc is like looking into a mirror of the future for the US if things do not get sorted out. scary.

John F Kennedy III
04-06-2012, 11:57 AM
I could care less what happens in another country.

That's a major problem and the reason the world is descending into a full blown tyrannical police state.

PaulConventionWV
04-06-2012, 12:13 PM
1 mile? I live in a rural area and my doctor's practice is 15 miles away. Whatever shall I do?

John F Kennedy III
04-06-2012, 12:55 PM
Wait, is eduardo banned?