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kmforpaul
11-14-2007, 05:58 PM
Today in US History class (I'm a junior in highschool) we started a worksheet on on foreign policy. "Wow," I thought to myself, "I know all about that". At least, I thought I did until my teacher actually brought up Ron Paul (imagine that!). She claimed he said something very controversial during one of the debates. I volunteered myself to explain to the class how Dr. Paul and Ghouliani exchanged discrepancies about 9/11 a few months back.

However, after I finished explaining Ron Paul's position, my teacher called him an "isolationist". I couldn't help it - I retaliated: "NO! He is a non-interventionist; he is pro-free trade." It was all very disturbing to me, no wonder a majority of Americans are so supportive of imperialism. Even the worksheet went on to support "Isolationism vs. Imperialism."

After class, I felt it was necessary to discuss this with my teacher. "I think you should be careful of labeling Ron Paul as an 'isolationist'." But she was enlightened, "Oh I wasn't aware it came out that way; I was actually liked what he said."

Sematary
11-14-2007, 05:59 PM
Today in US History class (I'm a junior in highschool) we started a worksheet on on foreign policy. "Wow," I thought to myself, "I know all about that". At least, I thought I did until my teacher actually brought up Ron Paul (imagine that!). She claimed he said something very controversial during one of the debates. I volunteered myself to explain to the class how Dr. Paul and Ghouliani exchanged discrepancies about 9/11 a few months back.

However, after I finished explaining Ron Paul's position, my teacher called him an "isolationist". I couldn't help it - I retaliated: "NO! He is a non-interventionist; he is pro-free trade." It was all very disturbing to me, no wonder a majority of Americans are so supportive of imperialism. Even the worksheet went on to support "Isolationism vs. Imperialism."

After class, I felt it was necessary to discuss this with my teacher. "I think you should be careful of labeling Ron Paul as an 'isolationist'." But she was enlightened, "Oh I wasn't aware it came out that way; I was actually liked what he said."

They say isolationist because they don't have the mental prowess to distinguish the difference between an isolationist and a non-interventionist.

pcosmar
11-14-2007, 06:01 PM
They say isolationist because they don't have the mental prowess to distinguish the difference between an isolationist and a non-interventionist.

That is a well worded and nice way to say, Cause their STUPID.

Adamsa
11-14-2007, 06:01 PM
They say "isolationist", we say a normal country's foreign policy of not occupying everyone.

Sematary
11-14-2007, 06:02 PM
That is a well worded and nice way to say, Cause their STUPID.

yep. :D

kmforpaul
11-14-2007, 06:41 PM
bump.

AFTFNJ
11-14-2007, 07:26 PM
isolationist..they want to present an image of RP as a pussy. But in reality he is more of a tiger then anybody...he really wants to go hunt OBL in Afghanistan & not go fight for oil.

constitutional
11-14-2007, 07:29 PM
Today in US History class (I'm a junior in highschool) we started a worksheet on on foreign policy. "Wow," I thought to myself, "I know all about that". At least, I thought I did until my teacher actually brought up Ron Paul (imagine that!). She claimed he said something very controversial during one of the debates. I volunteered myself to explain to the class how Dr. Paul and Ghouliani exchanged discrepancies about 9/11 a few months back.

However, after I finished explaining Ron Paul's position, my teacher called him an "isolationist". I couldn't help it - I retaliated: "NO! He is a non-interventionist; he is pro-free trade." It was all very disturbing to me, no wonder a majority of Americans are so supportive of imperialism. Even the worksheet went on to support "Isolationism vs. Imperialism."

After class, I felt it was necessary to discuss this with my teacher. "I think you should be careful of labeling Ron Paul as an 'isolationist'." But she was enlightened, "Oh I wasn't aware it came out that way; I was actually liked what he said."

way to go!

nexus7
11-14-2007, 08:52 PM
No wonder schools are so crappy these days. The teacher didn't even know the difference. The student who probably learned this on-line, had to tell her.

Well done.


Today in US History class (I'm a junior in highschool) we started a worksheet on on foreign policy. "Wow," I thought to myself, "I know all about that". At least, I thought I did until my teacher actually brought up Ron Paul (imagine that!). She claimed he said something very controversial during one of the debates. I volunteered myself to explain to the class how Dr. Paul and Ghouliani exchanged discrepancies about 9/11 a few months back.

However, after I finished explaining Ron Paul's position, my teacher called him an "isolationist". I couldn't help it - I retaliated: "NO! He is a non-interventionist; he is pro-free trade." It was all very disturbing to me, no wonder a majority of Americans are so supportive of imperialism. Even the worksheet went on to support "Isolationism vs. Imperialism."

After class, I felt it was necessary to discuss this with my teacher. "I think you should be careful of labeling Ron Paul as an 'isolationist'." But she was enlightened, "Oh I wasn't aware it came out that way; I was actually liked what he said."

Energy
11-14-2007, 09:08 PM
That's the power of MSM for ya. I believe it was after the famous Rudy exchange that the media tried to pigeon-hole RP with that gross misnomer.

traitorist
11-14-2007, 09:11 PM
good work!

RobS
11-14-2007, 09:18 PM
This makes me so happy I had a wonderful government teacher in High School... she even made us prepare statements and argue over how to interpret the constitution and how the founding fathers felt about the constitution, I haven't been the same since : )

Nice work on informing your teacher btw!

OptionsTrader
11-14-2007, 09:37 PM
Today in US History class (I'm a junior in highschool) we started a worksheet on on foreign policy. "Wow," I thought to myself, "I know all about that". At least, I thought I did until my teacher actually brought up Ron Paul (imagine that!). She claimed he said something very controversial during one of the debates. I volunteered myself to explain to the class how Dr. Paul and Ghouliani exchanged discrepancies about 9/11 a few months back.

However, after I finished explaining Ron Paul's position, my teacher called him an "isolationist". I couldn't help it - I retaliated: "NO! He is a non-interventionist; he is pro-free trade." It was all very disturbing to me, no wonder a majority of Americans are so supportive of imperialism. Even the worksheet went on to support "Isolationism vs. Imperialism."

After class, I felt it was necessary to discuss this with my teacher. "I think you should be careful of labeling Ron Paul as an 'isolationist'." But she was enlightened, "Oh I wasn't aware it came out that way; I was actually liked what he said."

Share this with your teacher:

I Advocate the Same Foreign Policy the Founding Fathers Would

by Ron Paul

Any response to this paper's Friday editorial on my foreign policy position must rest on two fundamental assertions: first, that the Founding Fathers were not isolationists; and second, that their political philosophy – the wisdom of the Constitution, the Declaration, and our Revolution itself – is not just a primitive cultural relic.

If I understand the editors' concerns, I have not been accused of deviating from the Founders' logic; if anything I have been accused of adhering to it too strictly. The question, therefore, before readers – and soon voters – is the same question I have asked for almost 20 years in Congress: by what superior wisdom have we now declared Jefferson, Washington, and Madison to be "unrealistic and dangerous"? Why do we insist on throwing away their most considered warnings?

A non-interventionist foreign policy is not an isolationist foreign policy. It is quite the opposite. Under a Paul administration, the United States would trade freely with any nation that seeks to engage with us. American citizens would be encouraged to visit other countries and interact with other peoples rather than be told by their own government that certain countries are off limits to them.

American citizens would be allowed to spend their hard-earned money wherever they wish across the globe, not told that certain countries are under embargo and thus off limits. An American trade policy would encourage private American businesses to seek partners overseas and engage them in trade. The hostility toward American citizens overseas in the wake of our current foreign policy has actually made it difficult if not dangerous for Americans to travel abroad. Is this not an isolationist consequence from a policy of aggressive foreign interventionism?

It is not we non-interventionists who are isolationsists. The real isolationists are those who impose sanctions and embargoes on countries and peoples across the globe because they disagree with the internal and foreign policies of their leaders. The real isolationists are those who choose to use force overseas to promote democracy, rather than seek change through diplomacy, engagement, and by setting a positive example.

I do not believe that ideas have an expiration date, or that their value can be gauged by their novelty. The test for new and old is that of wisdom and experience, or as the editors wrote "historical reality," which argues passionately now against the course of anti-Constitutional interventionism.

A Paul administration would see Americans engaged overseas like never before, in business and cultural activities. But a Paul administration would never attempt to export democracy or other values at the barrel of a gun, as we have seen over and over again that this is a counterproductive approach that actually leads the United States to be resented and more isolated in the world.
source:

http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul413.html

foofighter20x
11-14-2007, 09:38 PM
If you ever want to show people what Isolationism looks like:

Sakoku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakoku)

The Edo Period of Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_period)

TheEvilDetector
11-14-2007, 09:39 PM
Today in US History class (I'm a junior in highschool) we started a worksheet on on foreign policy. "Wow," I thought to myself, "I know all about that". At least, I thought I did until my teacher actually brought up Ron Paul (imagine that!). She claimed he said something very controversial during one of the debates. I volunteered myself to explain to the class how Dr. Paul and Ghouliani exchanged discrepancies about 9/11 a few months back.

However, after I finished explaining Ron Paul's position, my teacher called him an "isolationist". I couldn't help it - I retaliated: "NO! He is a non-interventionist; he is pro-free trade." It was all very disturbing to me, no wonder a majority of Americans are so supportive of imperialism. Even the worksheet went on to support "Isolationism vs. Imperialism."

After class, I felt it was necessary to discuss this with my teacher. "I think you should be careful of labeling Ron Paul as an 'isolationist'." But she was enlightened, "Oh I wasn't aware it came out that way; I was actually liked what he said."

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