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VBRonPaulFan
04-04-2012, 08:43 AM
pretty hilarious article, too.

hxxp://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2012/04/04/dude-it-not-pink-slime/



I have yet to meet anyone in the media who would falsely malign a perfectly good cheeseburger. Yet somehow it happened, according to AFA Foods Inc., which filed bankruptcy on Monday, blaming the media.

What the beef industry calls "lean, finely textured beef," food critics have been calling "pink slime." And the media, always hot after headlines and sound bites, have been going with pink slime.

The beef industry might have handled this situation by replacing the term "lean, finely textured beef" with something like "meat smoothie" or "hamburger slurpee." Instead, it chose to keep a name that sounds as unappetizing as "cafeteria meatloaf special," and is now defending it with a silly, new slogan.

"Let's call this product what it is and let 'pink slime' become a term of the past," Texas Gov. Rick Perry said last week.

He was one of a group of five governors and lieutenant governors from five meat-processing states who were touring a meat-packing plant in South Sioux City, Neb. Together they rolled out the new slogan, "Dude, it's beef."

This may be only a modest improvement over the term, pink slime. Whenever anyone begins a premise with the word, "dude," they are trying so hard to convince you of something that you have to wonder if they are stoned.

The new term came too late for King of Prussia, Pa.-based AFA now that the meat grinder has had to file Chapter 11.

"Ongoing media attention has called into question the wholesomeness" and "dramatically reduced the demand for all ground beef products," AFA's interim Chief Executive Ron Allen said in filing Chapter 11.

AFA is owned by Yucaipa Cos., run by billionaire Ron Burkle. It has about 850 employees and annual revenues of $958 million -- all threatened by what some governors and industry leaders are calling a misinformation campaign.

I don't want to parse the debate over the safety of this product any more than the debate over whether salt is good or bad for you. But the ruckus is shutting operations across the land. Beef Products Inc., owner of the plant where the governors met, has closed three plants and temporarily laid off 650 people.

But should these hard times be blamed on the media, or on the companies that insist on peddling an unappealing product? "Dude, it's beef" includes mechanically separated connective tissues and trimmings from near the hide, which are more likely to be exposed to fecal matter. "Dude, it's beef" is treated with an ammonia solution to kill any unwanted E. coli bacteria. Then "Dude, it's beef" is mixed into a better batch of ground beef. (And, dude, "I can't believe it's not butter.")

The industry says the process is safe, but most consumers don't spray their meat with Windex before tossing it on a grill. And "Dude it's beef," while approved by the Food and Drug Administration, is never served by itself because, dude, that would be so gross.

McDonalds, Burger King and Taco Bell have said they will no longer use "Dude, it's beef." Wendy's has said it has never used "Dude, it's beef" because it didn't meet its quality standards. Grocery chains from Safeway to Food Lion have dumped "Dude, it's beef" as well.

Kroger recently put out a press release saying that it listens to customers: "Our customers have expressed their concerns that...lean finely textured beef...is something they do not want in their ground beef."

It's just that simple: If you want to stay in the food business, you better sell customers what they want to eat. Yet, instead of accommodating consumer demands, the beef industry has alleged that some dudes were manipulated by the media. Then it held a press conference to manipulate the media, itself.

Slipping lower-quality cuts of meat into cheeseburgers while wearing a "Dude, it's beef" T-shirt is not a viable business strategy. Or as they say over at AFA, Dude, it's bankruptcy.

FindLiberty
04-04-2012, 08:47 AM
Employees all receive "pink slips"...

donnay
04-04-2012, 08:50 AM
Employees all receive "pink slips"...


ROFL!

silverhandorder
04-04-2012, 08:59 AM
Makes sense. People want better quality food. As long as this was solved with no government intervention why should we care?

Bruno
04-04-2012, 09:00 AM
"Dude, it was fine for decades until I knew how it was made."

VBRonPaulFan
04-04-2012, 09:00 AM
Makes sense. People want better quality food. As long as this was solved with no government intervention why should we care?

it's a good thing. state/local governments were planning on buying this shit up like crazy to stick into school lunches.

Lishy
04-04-2012, 09:01 AM
"Dude, it was fine for decades until I knew how it was made."
Lol...

Anyways, I don't like hamburgers. I eat strictly only Chicken for meat.

angelatc
04-04-2012, 09:03 AM
AFA is owned by Yucaipa Cos., run by billionaire Ron Burkle. It has about 850 employees and annual revenues of $958 million -- all threatened by what some governors and industry leaders are calling a misinformation campaign.

I don't want to parse the debate over the safety of this product any more than the debate over whether salt is good or bad for you. But the ruckus is shutting operations across the land. Beef Products Inc., owner of the plant where the governors met, has closed three plants and temporarily laid off 650 people.

Congratulations to the local members of the endlessly smug do-gooders squad. 650 families devastated, added to the entitlement rolls for absolutely no legitimate reason. Ignorance like this is what keeps government in business.

angelatc
04-04-2012, 09:05 AM
it's a good thing. state/local governments were planning on buying this shit up like crazy to stick into school lunches.

They have used this, literally, for decades. It is not a good thing. It increases the amount of meat on the carcass that is unused, and therefore drives prices up for a couple of reasons. City people are litarally retarded, I swear to God.

gerryb
04-04-2012, 09:06 AM
Huh. Consumers have a choice. Who knew!

angelatc
04-04-2012, 09:07 AM
Makes sense. People want better quality food. As long as this was solved with no government intervention why should we care?


Because it shows how easy it is to manipulate the ignorant.

angelatc
04-04-2012, 09:08 AM
Huh. Consumers have a choice. Who knew!

This isn't consumer choice, this is bullying by a loud, ignorant minority. People have known for decades that hot dogs are full of the less desirable bits of meat, yet we still eat those.

This is nothing but artificially manufactured hysteria. They know how to pull your strings just as well as they do the general population.

Danke
04-04-2012, 09:09 AM
it's a good thing. state/local governments were planning on buying this shit up like crazy to stick into school lunches.



They are going Green. Soylent Green.

seraphson
04-04-2012, 09:12 AM
Depends. Is the slime sprayed with bleach?

angelatc
04-04-2012, 09:16 AM
Depends. Is the slime sprayed with bleach?

No. But your tap water has bleach in it, and survivalists know to purify water using bleach. For generations seafood was, because it kept the bacteria that actually can kill you off them. Then the media had a fit, and the industry had to stop. Therefore food got unsafer because of the 21st century "everybody's suddenly a loud mouthed expert" phenomena.

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 09:38 AM
One report had said that "Pink Slime" had only been used in human food since 2001. Before that it had been used in animal food. Why go out of business? Can't they sell it to animal food companies? Maybe they can send it to China and lower costs for Chinese consumers, they would do the same for us.

silverhandorder
04-04-2012, 09:42 AM
Angela there can be middle ground you know. I personally would rather pay more to get quality meat. If there are enough people like you who don't mind pink slime then that's fine. But clearly that is not true or the company would not be reorganizing right now. If anything this allowed for a better business model to be build at a later stage.

asurfaholic
04-04-2012, 09:44 AM
On the bright side, there are at least 650 families whose eyes are opened to a powerfully manipulative Big Media.

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 09:52 AM
McDonalds, Burger King and Taco Bell have said they will no longer use "Dude, it's beef."

Anyone remember the controversy about what was really in Taco Bell meat? Seems we now have an answer. They were adamant that it contained more than 40% meat. Wonder what percentage of that 40% of "beef" was pink slime?

unknown
04-04-2012, 10:31 AM
Anyone see the pictures of this crap? Truly scary.

AGRP
04-04-2012, 10:55 AM
They couldn't find alternative ways to gag their poison down our throats like the HFCS or aspartame people?

VBRonPaulFan
04-04-2012, 02:40 PM
Congratulations to the local members of the endlessly smug do-gooders squad. 650 families devastated, added to the entitlement rolls for absolutely no legitimate reason. Ignorance like this is what keeps government in business.

oh noes, 650 people who worked at a company making shit that nobody wanted any part of once they learned what was involved no longer have a job! we can't possibly let this happen! all companies should stay in existence forever!

please, market at work here. this crap is disgusting and practices like this can only operate for a matter of time before someone gets a hold of it and runs with it.

puppetmaster
04-04-2012, 02:51 PM
They have used this, literally, for decades. It is not a good thing. It increases the amount of meat on the carcass that is unused, and therefore drives prices up for a couple of reasons. City people are litarally retarded, I swear to God.


yea...right. I raise cattle and I would NEVER EVER serve this to my kids. I like the fact that consumers made a choice and this particular corporation faded. Now if people would really look at their government as closely.

You can eat the entire carcass if you want, but people should be able to make an educated choice and it looks like they have. I make ground beef for my family and use chuck. I know what I am eating. I think most people think that the burgers they are eating are quality beef and not stomach lining, bones and organ cavity. The folks that want this can go out and find a butcher to give them this product for cheap I bet. They probably can get it out of their local butchers dumpster.

specsaregood
04-04-2012, 03:01 PM
This isn't consumer choice, this is bullying by a loud, ignorant minority. People have known for decades that hot dogs are full of the less desirable bits of meat, yet we still eat those.

This is nothing but artificially manufactured hysteria. They know how to pull your strings just as well as they do the general population.

Remember during the last great depression they actually got people to believe that plowing under crops was a good thing because it jacked the prices up of food. in the meantime there were long lines at the soup kitchens.

specsaregood
04-04-2012, 03:06 PM
I like the fact that consumers made a choice and this particular corporation faded.

We'll see how happy they are about that choice when the dollar menu becomes the 5-dollar menu.

VBRonPaulFan
04-04-2012, 03:16 PM
We'll see how happy they are about that choice when the dollar menu becomes the 5-dollar menu.

if you want to eat beef containing this junk, the option is still available. wal-mart and i think a couple of other stores are going to continue selling beef containing this stuff, but they're also going to offer a different beef that doesn't contain it.

specsaregood
04-04-2012, 03:18 PM
if you want to eat beef containing this junk, the option is still available. wal-mart and i think a couple of other stores are going to continue selling beef containing this stuff, but they're also going to offer a different beef that doesn't contain it.

no, im fairly pick now in my old age. but i do know the dollar menu is plenty popular.

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 03:27 PM
We'll see how happy they are about that choice when the dollar menu becomes the 5-dollar menu.

Too late. Last time I went to my local McDonald's the Egg McMuffins alone (not the meal) were over $4...

Who has a dollar menu anymore? The "Value Menu" prices are now $1.29 to $1.99.

tod evans
04-04-2012, 03:38 PM
So do "free" school lunches now include sirloin?

Hot dogs have always been "lips-n-assholes".......and kids have always loved `em.

Ya' know since we're doing so well financially as a nation how about standing rib roast every Friday for the free lunches?

When I was in school only "rich" kids bought their lunches, the rest of us packed our bologna and mustard (pink slime) in a lunch box.

PaulConventionWV
04-04-2012, 04:20 PM
No. But your tap water has bleach in it, and survivalists know to purify water using bleach. For generations seafood was, because it kept the bacteria that actually can kill you off them. Then the media had a fit, and the industry had to stop. Therefore food got unsafer because of the 21st century "everybody's suddenly a loud mouthed expert" phenomena.

You can have your pink slime and your love of ignorance and "everything is okay, there is no conspiracy" mentality. I choose common sense. I choose real food.

Noob
04-04-2012, 04:21 PM
So do "free" school lunches now include sirloin?

Hot dogs have always been "lips-n-assholes".......and kids have always loved `em.

Ya' know since we're doing so well financially as a nation how about standing rib roast every Friday for the free lunches?

When I was in school only "rich" kids bought their lunches, the rest of us packed our bologna and mustard (pink slime) in a lunch box.

We had a salad and pizza bar you could choose from besides the normal lunch.

specsaregood
04-04-2012, 04:21 PM
So do "free" school lunches now include sirloin?
Hot dogs have always been "lips-n-assholes".......and kids have always loved `em.
Ya' know since we're doing so well financially as a nation how about standing rib roast every Friday for the free lunches?


Let them eat cake!

PaulConventionWV
04-04-2012, 04:24 PM
Congratulations to the local members of the endlessly smug do-gooders squad. 650 families devastated, added to the entitlement rolls for absolutely no legitimate reason. Ignorance like this is what keeps government in business.

Yeah, I'm sure those families were absolutely "devastated" because they can't help manufacture pink slime anymore. Do you think a company just dissolves and that work is lost forever whenever a company goes out of business? Companies are supposed to go out of business when people don't like what they're doing. You act like those 650 jobs are lost and gone forever. This is an incredibly naive view of the economy. If we just lost jobs whenever a factory closed or something, we would not have any jobs left. Now stop your bleeding-heart complaining and watch the market work.

PaulConventionWV
04-04-2012, 04:28 PM
Too late. Last time I went to my local McDonald's the Egg McMuffins alone (not the meal) were over $4...

Who has a dollar menu anymore? The "Value Menu" prices are now $1.29 to $1.99.

You can get like 7 french fries in a little baggie for $1.00. Oh, they're the "new" fries.