North American Union will Attempt to Disarm the People of the United States

[John F Kennedy III]

North American Union will Attempt to Disarm the People of the United States

Rachel Cohen
fromthetrenchesworldreport.com
April 3, 2012

The international insurgent President Barack Obama hosted Mexican President Felipe Calderon and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper for talks on transnational trade and security Monday. This is a blatant display of an international socialist cabal, intent on further destroying the sovereignty of our republic and our individual states.

Mexican President Calderon proudly stated that his socialist government had confiscated 140,000 firearms in Mexico and then tried to imply that every one of them was bought in a gun store in the United States. He blamed the rash of violence in Mexico on the sunsetting of our unconstitutional assault weapons ban, suggesting new gun restrictions and confiscations in the United States as a necessity for Mexico’s security.

There was of course no mention of the fact that our southern border is being deliberately left wide open. And of course no mention of the fact that US Attorney General Eric Holder, acting as representative for the insurgent Obama and in correlation with the Mexican government, has been running guns to Mexico and drugs back into the United States for years now.

This communist parley was immediately followed by the announcement that the FBI had arrived in Florida to begin investigating the death of Trayvon Martin. It looks like what this whole thing is building into is an attempt at gun confiscation in the United States.

The US government has begun buying up millions of rounds of ammunition, in fact to the point that it has driven up prices and availability for we the people here at home. What we are about to see is a coordinated attack on US nationality and our sovereignty.

Considering the duplicit acts the US government has been caught in in the past three years, using our own military to disarm us is not feasible. In fact what is left of our military in this country is now being considered the enemy as our troops are themselves preparing to stop the socialist insurgency in the United States.

This transnational cabal that has been formed is in preparation for Mexican and Canadian troops to be brought into the United States to disarm the American people in the name of safety and, as psychotic as it sounds, justice for Trayvon Martin.

The Martin case has been latched onto by the socialists in an attempt to put forth the illusion of racial disunity to the extent that the federal government has now had to step in. We must realize that 90% of the killings in the United States are blacks killing blacks and this is a direct result of inner city poverty and the $40 billion per year drug war, which cannot be won because the insurgents in our government are the cartel making billions from the prohibitions to our freedom to smoke or ingest whatever we please.

There are no words to describe the extent of the duplicity and treason we are seeing occur right before our eyes. We must wrap our arms around our 2nd Amendment and prepare to drive the invaders from our borders. We cannot tolerate even the smallest further infringement upon our 2nd Amendment, having the realization that in the end game, these international soviets intend to exterminate us after we are disarmed.


article here:
http://www.infowars.com/north-american-union-will-attempt-to-disarm-the-people-of-the-united-states/

originally here:
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/north-american-union-will-attempt-to-disarm-the-people-of-the-united-states/10764

[John F Kennedy III]

Bump.

[JK/SEA]

goodluck.

[Sublyminal]

goodluck.


Yea, the military wont follow that order.

[JK/SEA]

Yea, the military wont follow that order.

well, if they do it will be an either or situation won't it?

[kill the banks]

madhouse

[John F Kennedy III]

well, if they do it will be an either or situation won't it?

Yep.

[Noble Savage]

the key word is...attempt....I remember when Evil Kenievel "attempted" to jump the Snake River...

[Sublyminal]

well, if they do it will be an either or situation won't it?


If they try, they will find themselves out gunned. Our citizens are the most heavily armed nation in the world. Not to mention all the defectors that would come over and fight over on our side.

[FrankRep]

If they try, they will find themselves out gunned. Our citizens are the most heavily armed nation in the world. Not to mention all the defectors that would come over and fight over on our side.
That didn't happen in the Soviet Union, people just went along with it.

[JK/SEA]

''You have nothing to fear, except fear itself'''.......and so on, yada yada...

[ZENemy]

I think if Ostupidcare passes, THIS will happen very soon after.

[John F Kennedy III]

I think if Ostupidcare passes, THIS will happen very soon after.

That's not the reason, but yeah.

[AME3]

That didn't happen in the Soviet Union, people just went along with it.
Russians in those times were nothing at all like Americans were. They transitioned from a Czar to a communist dictatorship which murdered millions of them. Their utter destruction which followed the cold war is also evidence of their inferiority and insolvency in comparison to us. In short, such a comparison is, fortunately, totally illogical.

[3kgt]

I'm so tired of clicking on these bullshit threads with wild conspiracy theory articles from nothing websites.

This will never happen. The American people would not stand for something of this magnitude. They will continue as they always have, slowly and steadily removing our freedoms surreptitiously and covertly.

And if I get neg repped for this post I will literally come to your house and set you on fire

[Pericles]

I'm so tired of clicking on these bullshit threads with wild conspiracy theory articles from nothing websites.

This will never happen. The American people would not stand for something of this magnitude. They will continue as they always have, slowly and steadily removing our freedoms surreptitiously and covertly.

And if I get neg repped for this post I will literally come to your house and set you on fire

After hearing of such schemes for years, I'm also tired of it. Let's get it on, or STFU.

[JK/SEA]

I'm so tired of clicking on these bullshit threads with wild conspiracy theory articles from nothing websites.

This will never happen. The American people would not stand for something of this magnitude. They will continue as they always have, slowly and steadily removing our freedoms surreptitiously and covertly.

And if I get neg repped for this post I will literally come to your house and set you on fire

ok, no neg rep, but....make a fist with your right hand...now...as hard as you can, hit the side of your upper jaw...

thankyou.

[John F Kennedy III]

ok, no neg rep, but....make a fist with your right hand...now...as hard as you can, hit the side of your upper jaw...

thankyou.

+rep

[ZENemy]

So this is NEVER going to stop right?

I mean they have not yet, NRDP, NDAA blah, blah, blah. So if they will not stop, then what are we to do? Is it time for a rally? No, not a protest, a RALLY, a real one with speakers, to come up with some solutions.

Vote = Failed
Change the system from the inside = Failed and will keep failing
Protest = Failed, the hippies failed, now its almost 100% against the law
Suing = Failed, Ive seen so many lawsuits
Vetting = Failed, and people just get killed

[FrankRep]

So this is NEVER going to stop right?

The power elite want nothing less than world government and they have infinite patience to get it accomplished.

[azxd]

That didn't happen in the Soviet Union, people just went along with it.The soviet people didn't have the firepower or free will we possess.

And the idea that we could not stand up to our own armed forces (those who would follow illegal orders), well ... A bunch of people living on dirt floors have been giving our troops a good run for their money for over a decade ;)

Let them try to invade the homeland.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae74oMMQ4ak

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I'm so tired of clicking on these bullshit threads with wild conspiracy theory articles from nothing websites.

This will never happen. The American people would not stand for something of this magnitude. They will continue as they always have, slowly and steadily removing our freedoms surreptitiously and covertly.

And if I get neg repped for this post I will literally come to your house and set you on fire

This user was temp banned by me for two days for making a general threat against other users. Even if it was meant as a joke it was way out of line.

[eduardo89]

This user was temp banned by me for two days for making a general threat against other users. Even if it was meant as a joke it was way out of line.

Damn I wanted to neg rep him and see how serious he was :(

[John F Kennedy III]

Damn I wanted to neg rep him and see how serious he was :(

I did. I'll let you know.

[omgimbannedwah]

Cry about it, its saddening to me that you waste hours buying into the infowars bullshit when there's real work to be done spreading awareness about Ron Paul and liberty.

But by all means, keep filling up RPF with this sensationalist crap and truth be damned neg rep everyone who disagrees.

And I don't think said user was joking so I'd be conservative with your reps.

Morons.

Edit: The best part is believing Canadian/Mexican forces will be the muscle. Mexico can't keep it's own country safe and the Canadians are too weak and too smart. Seriously?

[Zippyjuan]

Back under a new name already?

[azxd]

Cry about it, its saddening to me that you waste hours buying into the infowars bullshit when there's real work to be done spreading awareness about Ron Paul and liberty.

But by all means, keep filling up RPF with this sensationalist crap and truth be damned neg rep everyone who disagrees.

And I don't think said user was joking so I'd be conservative with your reps.

Morons.

Edit: The best part is believing Canadian/Mexican forces will be the muscle. Mexico can't keep it's own country safe and the Canadians are too weak and too smart. Seriously?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55LLVCRHXeI

[NewRightLibertarian]

Cry about it, its saddening to me that you waste hours buying into the infowars bullshit when there's real work to be done spreading awareness about Ron Paul and liberty.

But by all means, keep filling up RPF with this sensationalist crap and truth be damned neg rep everyone who disagrees.

And I don't think said user was joking so I'd be conservative with your reps.

Morons.

Edit: The best part is believing Canadian/Mexican forces will be the muscle. Mexico can't keep it's own country safe and the Canadians are too weak and too smart. Seriously?

We're not going to stop with our 'infowars bullshit' no matter what losers like you have to say :D

[azxd]

^^^ Yea, and there's always PrisonPlanet :D

[lilymc]

Like I mentioned yesterday, I'm posting on another site, and even as we speak I'm in the middle of a debate with a couple people on corruption and subversive people within our government.

The problem (once again) is that for the naysayers, it doesn't matter what we say, they want "proof" - and I know that I can't post something from infowars.com, because it will be immediately shot down or dismissed. There is one guy in particular there who does NOTHING but defend the government and sold out puppets like Obama, day in and day out. In every single thread he posts on, he is defending the government and unconstitutional actions. Some on that site joke that he's posting from the "White House basement" - that should tell you how bad the guy is, when it comes to his persistence in defending liars.

I mentioned this on another thread yesterday, but if anyone wants to come to that forum to help me out (or just share your thoughts) I would TRULY appreciate it. You can PM me if you want the link.

[omgimbannedwah]

Nope just one concerned reader defending another.

I don't think you see my point either. This is such a waste of time. And I don't care what anyone says infowars articles aren't proof or anything close.
You constantly denounce the mainstream media and call people sheep for believing everything they read and hear but you're no better!
You lap up every conspiracy theory they post EVEN WHEN SEVERAL OF THEM CONTRADICT EACH OTHER. If you connect enough dots in enough combinations eventually things like this will seem to fit. Do you really think they need to resort to James Bond antagonistic style plots to take our weapons? They have a flawless system for that already and instead of fighting against it you're worrying about this.

Whatever man, I do what I can for the liberty movement and this shit I promise you is not helping.
I have to fight through the belief that we're a bunch of tin foil hat wearing crazies sitting in our mother's basements because you people won't stop buying into this bull and posting it everywhere.

STOP GIVING US A BAD REPUTATION AND STOP BUYING INTO THIS.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Nope just one concerned reader defending another.

I don't think you see my point either. This is such a waste of time. And I don't care what anyone says infowars articles aren't proof or anything close.
You constantly denounce the mainstream media and call people sheep for believing everything they read and hear but you're no better!
You lap up every conspiracy theory they post EVEN WHEN SEVERAL OF THEM CONTRADICT EACH OTHER. If you connect enough dots in enough combinations eventually things like this will seem to fit. Do you really think they need to resort to James Bond antagonistic style plots to take our weapons? They have a flawless system for that already and instead of fighting against it you're worrying about this.

Whatever man, I do what I can for the liberty movement and this shit I promise you is not helping.
I have to fight through the belief that we're a bunch of tin foil hat wearing crazies sitting in our mother's basements because you people won't stop buying into this bull and posting it everywhere.

STOP GIVING US A BAD REPUTATION AND STOP BUYING INTO THIS.

Nope, we're not going to. No matter how much a person like you whines and cries :)

[omgimbannedwah]

I am neither whining nor crying. Why are you attempting to troll another liberty supporter? Really this forum gets more pathetic every day.
/log

[NewRightLibertarian]

I am neither whining nor crying. Why are you attempting to troll another liberty supporter? Really this forum gets more pathetic every day.
/log

Aww poor baby doesn't like the forum anymore? Too bad. If you don't like it, you are more than happy to leave.

[Chrysamere]

Nope, we're not going to. No matter how much a person like you whines and cries :)

He didn't whine, he stated you conspiracy nuts are just as stuck in your little bubble as everyone else.

[NewRightLibertarian]

He didn't whine, he stated you conspiracy nuts are just as stuck in your little bubble as everyone else.

Look at the name of this crybaby. He certainly is whining, whether you agree with his bullshit or not

[Chrysamere]

Look at the name of this crybaby. He certainly is whining, whether you agree with his bullshit or not

You sound a bit mad, it's alright, most people get mad when they find out what they believe in is complete bullshit.

lol @ anyone who takes anything posted on infowars.com or fromthetrenchesworldreport.com seriously.

[NewRightLibertarian]

You sound a bit mad, it's alright, most people get mad when they find out what they believe in is complete bullshit.

lol @ anyone who takes anything posted on infowars.com or fromthetrenchesworldreport.com seriously.

Well, whether what I believe is bullshit or not I'm going to keep fighting to get it out regardless of what people like you think everywhere I can. Considering that Ron Paul supports Infowars and endorses almost all of the views espoused on the show, I feel emboldened to get the word out about the revolution and not run from the truth like cowards like you do.

[Chrysamere]

Well, whether what I believe is bullshit or not I'm going to keep fighting to get it out regardless of what people like you think everywhere I can. Considering that Ron Paul supports Infowars and endorses almost all of the views espoused on the show, I feel emboldened to get the word out about the revolution and not run from the truth like cowards like you do.

Keep on fighting your war against a fake enemy, your governments been doing it for decades. Infowars posts articles about important things, things that the MSM doesn't talk about, but they completely ruin anything good they do by spinning it into some made up conspiracy while never showing any real evidence. I'm not the one running from the truth, you are, you get way too sucked into the countless propaganda conspiracy movies and stories out there. People are stupid and naive, so bad things happen. They don't happen because theres a secret owl worshipping vampire overlord bankster who wants to control the world.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Keep on fighting your war against a fake enemy, your governments been doing it for decades. Infowars posts articles about important things, things that the MSM doesn't talk about, but they completely ruin anything good they do by spinning it into some made up conspiracy while never showing any real evidence. I'm not the one running from the truth, you are, you get way too sucked into the countless propaganda conspiracy movies and stories out there. People are stupid and naive, so bad things happen. They don't happen because theres a secret owl worshipping vampire overlord bankster who wants to control the world.

You mean the conspiracy propaganda movies that have Ron Paul in them? What about the Federal Reserve 'conspiracy theories' that Ron Paul espouses? Infowars provides some of the most well-sourced articles I have seen BTW. Sorry if you're not bright enough to make the necessary connections to see the big picture.

[Chrysamere]

You mean the conspiracy propaganda movies that have Ron Paul in them? What about the Federal Reserve 'conspiracy theories' that Ron Paul espouses? Infowars provides some of the most well-sourced articles I have seen BTW. Sorry if you're not bright enough to make the necessary connections to see the big picture.

That is my point, those articles and movies make some good points, but they then ruin it by turning it into conspiracy crap so stupid and delusional my 4 year old sister would laugh at it's stupidity.

Hail Meloch!

[NewRightLibertarian]

That is my point, those articles and movies make some good points, but they then ruin it by turning it into conspiracy crap so stupid and delusional my 4 year old sister would laugh at it's stupidity.

Well, you and your 4 year old sister must share the same level of intelligence then.

[John F Kennedy III]

Cry about it, its saddening to me that you waste hours buying into the infowars bullshit when there's real work to be done spreading awareness about Ron Paul and liberty.

But by all means, keep filling up RPF with this sensationalist crap and truth be damned neg rep everyone who disagrees.

And I don't think said user was joking so I'd be conservative with your reps.

Morons.

Edit: The best part is believing Canadian/Mexican forces will be the muscle. Mexico can't keep it's own country safe and the Canadians are too weak and too smart. Seriously?

Gee, I wonder who that was.

[Chrysamere]

Well, you and your 4 year old sister must share the same level of intelligence then.

I'm not nearly as smart as she is. ;]









The one who cannot see that on Earth a big endeavor is taking place, an important plan, on which realization we are allowed to collaborate as faithful servants, certainly has to be blind

[lilymc]

Keep on fighting your war against a fake enemy, your governments been doing it for decades. Infowars posts articles about important things, things that the MSM doesn't talk about, but they completely ruin anything good they do by spinning it into some made up conspiracy while never showing any real evidence. I'm not the one running from the truth, you are, you get way too sucked into the countless propaganda conspiracy movies and stories out there. People are stupid and naive, so bad things happen. They don't happen because theres a secret owl worshipping vampire overlord bankster who wants to control the world.

Chrysamere, I have a question for you. If you look back at history at some of the atrocities and crimes against humanity that have happened, (for example, by rulers like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc) would you say that those things were just the result of "stupidity"? Or do you believe that those actions are the result of a twisted, morally bankrupt mindset?

[Chrysamere]

Chrysamere, I have a question for you. If you look back at history at some of the atrocities and crimes against humanity that have happened, (for example, by rulers like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc) would you say that those things were just the result of "stupidity"? Or do you believe that those actions are the result of a twisted, morally bankrupt mindset?

Twisted and morally bankrupt to us perhaps, in their own mind, and the minds of millions of others, they were doing good.




Give me the power of the money and it will not matter any more who is commanding

[John F Kennedy III]

Well, whether what I believe is bullshit or not I'm going to keep fighting to get it out regardless of what people like you think everywhere I can. Considering that Ron Paul supports Infowars and endorses almost all of the views espoused on the show, I feel emboldened to get the word out about the revolution and not run from the truth like cowards like you do.

This.

[lilymc]

Twisted and morally bankrupt to us perhaps, in their own mind, and the minds of millions of others, they were doing good.


Give me the power of the money and it will not matter any more who is commanding

Of course in the mind of a person committing a crime, what they're doing is somehow justifiable, or even "good." I'm sure the same thing could be said about serial killers, like Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy. Who knows what went on in their minds, but maybe they felt that their desires were more important than another person's rights, so they rationalized it as somehow OK.

But truth isn't dependent on what we believe or disbelieve. I can believe I'm the Queen of England or that 2+2=5, it doesn't make those things actually true.

What am I getting at? I just found it interesting that you seem to dismiss or scoff at the idea that there are people in this world who are just plain evil, selfish, callous and cold-hearted, and who don't care about other people. Your earlier post implied that you think bad things happen by accident, just because some people are "stupid" or "naive." I'm not sure how you can disagree that there are people who do horrible things who are neither stupid or naive, but know exactly what they're doing.

[specsaregood]

I'm not nearly as smart as she is. ;]

That ^ is how you handle insults with class. Bravo.

[Chrysamere]

Of course in the mind of a person committing a crime, what they're doing is somehow justifiable, or even "good." I'm sure the same thing could be said about serial killers, like Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy. Who knows what went on in their minds, but maybe they felt that their desires were more important than another person's rights, so they rationalized it as somehow OK.

But truth isn't dependent on what we believe or disbelieve. I can believe I'm the Queen of England or that 2+2=5, it doesn't make those things actually true.

What am I getting at? I just found it interesting that you seem to dismiss or scoff at the idea that there are people in this world who are just plain evil, selfish, callous and cold-hearted, and who don't care about other people. Your earlier post implied that you think bad things happen by accident, just because some people are "stupid" or "naive." I'm not sure how you can disagree that there are people who do horrible things who are neither stupid or naive, but know exactly what they're doing.

I will never deny that there are truelly evil people on this earth, though I believe there are very few. I dismiss and scoff at the idea that there is a shadowgroup of jew globalist bilberberg nwo illuminati bankster freemason satanic elites that only wants to do evil.

[Xhin]

The mexican president can say what he wants to (and the talk was more about illegal arms trafficking than it was legitimate gun purchase), the president did not agree to disarming US citizens, as this press release shows:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/04/02/joint-statement-north-american-leaders

Also, infowars is generally very well-sourced, often moreso than the MSM. Conspiracy Theory bias is no different than any other news source bias, so that's not really an issue for me. It is, however, important to do thorough research on your own instead of blindly accepting any news source. Not doing so makes you a "sheeple", even if it's infowars you're not fact-checking.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Also, infowars is generally very well-sourced, often moreso than the MSM. Conspiracy Theory bias is no different than any other news source bias, so that's not really an issue for me. It is, however, important to do thorough research on your own instead of blindly accepting any news source. Not doing so makes you a "sheeple", even if it's infowars you're not fact-checking.

I completely agree. I just get sick of people around here denying that a cabal of rulers is secretly plotting to ruin our currency, destroy our freedoms and erode our sovereignty. You'd think on the Ron Paul forums people would get it but sadly many don't.

[Marenco]

I completely agree. I just get sick of people around here denying that a cabal of rulers is secretly plotting to ruin our currency, destroy our freedoms and erode our sovereignty. You'd think on the Ron Paul forums people would get it but sadly many don't.

It's true. Even David Rockefeller admits it.

''Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.'' - David Rockefeller, Memoirs (2003)

[WilliamC]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5680/1720727082413stampimage.jpg

[John F Kennedy III]

I completely agree. I just get sick of people around here denying that a cabal of rulers is secretly plotting to ruin our currency, destroy our freedoms and erode our sovereignty. You'd think on the Ron Paul forums people would get it but sadly many don't.


Especially since it's true.

[Xhin]

I just get sick of people around here denying that a cabal of rulers is secretly plotting to ruin our currency, destroy our freedoms and erode our sovereignty.

Uhh, I'm not sold on that. Conspiracy theories still extrapolate based on unverified sources or make massive inferences of normal events. I did research on the whole "7 days of food in your house is illegal/growing your own food is illegal/food depots are being tracked by the gov" thing and none of the actual facts check out. Conspiracy theorists are quick to jump on board with anything that appeals to the "a time of reckoning is coming" mentality.

That said, if you do the research it's extremely likely that *something* is behind the scenes of a lot of recent (July 2011 and newer) events. It's highly unlikely that there are just a bunch of stupid elected officials making the same mistakes which coincidentally seem orchestrated to deprive of us our freedoms and sovereignty. The impression I get is that preparations are being made for something that will happen sometime this year -- and I get that impression from looking only at the raw facts.

[eduardo89]

Edit: The best part is believing Canadian/Mexican forces will be the muscle. Mexico can't keep it's own country safe and the Canadians are too weak and too smart. Seriously?

lol, I should take double offense to that

[donnay]

lol, I should take double offense to that

Reported.

[youngbuck]

Yea, the military wont follow that order.

Hell no they won't. I know several veterans (one a former USMC sniper in Iraq/Afghanistan) and several active duty military that would never, in a million years, turn in their own firearms or follow orders to confiscate the arms of the citizenry. I used to wonder, but don't anymore. Much more of the military is on the side of liberty and the Constitution than isn't.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Uhh, I'm not sold on that. Conspiracy theories still extrapolate based on unverified sources or make massive inferences of normal events. I did research on the whole "7 days of food in your house is illegal/growing your own food is illegal/food depots are being tracked by the gov" thing and none of the actual facts check out. Conspiracy theorists are quick to jump on board with anything that appeals to the "a time of reckoning is coming" mentality.

If 'none of the facts check out' then why did Rand Paul mention that story in a senate speech? Besides that, there's a whole avalanche of examples of the government trampling of our freedoms, passing measures to destroy our sovereignty and wreck our currency. Look at the government propaganda videos saying that anyone with cash is a likely terrorist for instance.


That said, if you do the research it's extremely likely that *something* is behind the scenes of a lot of recent (July 2011 and newer) events. It's highly unlikely that there are just a bunch of stupid elected officials making the same mistakes which coincidentally seem orchestrated to deprive of us our freedoms and sovereignty. The impression I get is that preparations are being made for something that will happen sometime this year -- and I get that impression from looking only at the raw facts.

No doubt.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Hell no they won't. I know several veterans (one a former USMC sniper in Iraq/Afghanistan) and several active duty military that would never, in a million years, turn in their own firearms or follow orders to confiscate the arms of the citizenry. I used to wonder, but don't anymore. Much more of the military is on the side of liberty and the Constitution than isn't.

The military might not, but the police definitely will.

[Xhin]

If 'none of the facts check out' then why did Rand Paul mention that story in a senate speech?

Which story?


Besides that, there's a whole avalanche of examples of the government trampling of our freedoms, passing measures to destroy our sovereignty and wreck our currency. Look at the government propaganda videos saying that anyone with cash is a likely terrorist for instance.

I'm not arguing that point. The anti-liberty/anti-sovereignty thing has gotten really really blatant since November of last year. I'm convinced that there is *some kind* of conspiracy going on, but that doesn't automatically prove "the bilderberg/rockefeller/etc groups want to depopulate the planet".


The military might not, but the police definitely will.

No shit. Of the ten or so experiences I've had with the police, more than half of them have been bad ones.

[thequietkid10]

Enough already....

...there was supposed to be an "Amero" currency already
....the 2008 Presidential election was supposed to be canceled due to some horrific event
....for that matter I can't count how many false flag attacks that were supposed to happen over the past decade.
....people have been fearing that Obama is coming to take their guns since he was elected, 4 years ago...and the only thing he's done with guns is embarrass himself with Fast and Furious.

For that matter what is this North American Union everyone keeps talking about. I can find a European Union, I can identify a location, I can name leaders, bureaucrats, I can tell you what they are doing. Hell I can tell you how they are destroying the sovereignty of the members states. There is no North American Union, there is no treaty, there is no location, all there is, the leader of the United States and it's two biggest neighbors getting together to discus economic policy. You may not like there ideas, that's fine. Doesn't mean they are part of a Satanic cabal. (Ron Paul by the way often talks about having an open dialog with other nations, so it would be likely that President Paul would sit down and talk with the Mexican President and the Canadian Prime Minister.)

Frankly, every time Alex Jones and David Icke try to be the Libertarian Rush Limbaugh and say something outrageous, Only to be proven wrong, it damages the movement. I'm not sure how telling everyone that every media outlet you know are liars and the only media you should trust is some guy with a website broadcasting out of Texas and state owned Russian TV station does any good at all.

Let's stick to the well known, undisputed facts

FACT-we are 15 trillion dollars in debt and the best plan that the mainstream GOP has developed balances the budget....in 30 years
FACT-the inflationary policies of the Federal reserve destroy savings, and benefit the rich in favor of the poor
FACT-when you make a product illegal, disputes involving that product are usually solved by violence
FACT-99.9% of the population is smart enough to decide whether or not to use recreational drugs without the governments input
FACT-we can't afford to liberate every nation on the planet
FACT-when we do try liberate nations, pro democracy forces are often labeled as U.S puppets
FACT-we don't always try and "liberate nations" sometimes we side with dictators, which pisses off the populace to no end
FACT-sanctions hurt the people of nations far far more then they do governments
FACT-the Constitution is the highest law in the land and should be treated as such
FACT-The Patriot Act, the NDAA, TSA body scans, and the rise in data collection are all well known threats to privacy and liberty.

Why people run around making stuff up, when there is plenty of real world evidence to support Ron Paul and other libertarians is beyond me. Only explanation I can surmise is that they like looking down their noises at the "sheeple"

[ronpaulfollower999]

Trayvon Martin.

Now look at everyone screaming for more gun laws. And they won't need US military to take them away, it will be UN soldiers.

[thequietkid10]

Trayvon Martin.

Now look at everyone screaming for more gun laws. And they won't need US military to take them away, it will be UN soldiers.

whose screaming for guns laws? I see people screaming to repeal Stand your Ground, I see people screaming to arrest Zimmerman, I see people screaming about there right to wear hoodies?

And what justification would the UN have to bring in troops? Are the speakers at the Trevon Martin rallies talking too loudly?

[WilliamC]

I will never deny that there are truelly evil people on this earth, though I believe there are very few. I dismiss and scoff at the idea that there is a shadowgroup of jew globalist bilberberg nwo illuminati bankster freemason satanic elites that only wants to do evil.

Not only, just mostly.

It's enough to explain the mess we are in.

[Pericles]

The military might not, but the police definitely will.

I'd go with the 80 / 20 rule - 80% of the military won't, and 80% of the police will.

[ClydeCoulter]

Sorry to interrpt, and I'm not assuming but:

Has everyone with a Facebook or Youtube or Twitter or WebPage or know anyone with one gone here and done that?
April 15, 2012 MONEY BOMB preparation:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?370180-In-It-To-Win-It-Money-Bomb-Planning-amp-Promotion-Goal-2M-in-donations-on-April-15

[donnay]

Enough already....

...there was supposed to be an "Amero" currency already
....the 2008 Presidential election was supposed to be canceled due to some horrific event
....for that matter I can't count how many false flag attacks that were supposed to happen over the past decade.
....people have been fearing that Obama is coming to take their guns since he was elected, 4 years ago...and the only thing he's done with guns is embarrass himself with Fast and Furious.

For that matter what is this North American Union everyone keeps talking about. I can find a European Union, I can identify a location, I can name leaders, bureaucrats, I can tell you what they are doing. Hell I can tell you how they are destroying the sovereignty of the members states. There is no North American Union, there is no treaty, there is no location, all there is, the leader of the United States and it's two biggest neighbors getting together to discus economic policy. You may not like there ideas, that's fine. Doesn't mean they are part of a Satanic cabal. (Ron Paul by the way often talks about having an open dialog with other nations, so it would be likely that President Paul would sit down and talk with the Mexican President and the Canadian Prime Minister.)

Frankly, every time Alex Jones and David Icke try to be the Libertarian Rush Limbaugh and say something outrageous, Only to be proven wrong, it damages the movement. I'm not sure how telling everyone that every media outlet you know are liars and the only media you should trust is some guy with a website broadcasting out of Texas and state owned Russian TV station does any good at all.

Let's stick to the well known, undisputed facts

FACT-we are 15 trillion dollars in debt and the best plan that the mainstream GOP has developed balances the budget....in 30 years
FACT-the inflationary policies of the Federal reserve destroy savings, and benefit the rich in favor of the poor
FACT-when you make a product illegal, disputes involving that product are usually solved by violence
FACT-99.9% of the population is smart enough to decide whether or not to use recreational drugs without the governments input
FACT-we can't afford to liberate every nation on the planet
FACT-when we do try liberate nations, pro democracy forces are often labeled as U.S puppets
FACT-we don't always try and "liberate nations" sometimes we side with dictators, which pisses off the populace to no end
FACT-sanctions hurt the people of nations far far more then they do governments
FACT-the Constitution is the highest law in the land and should be treated as such
FACT-The Patriot Act, the NDAA, TSA body scans, and the rise in data collection are all well known threats to privacy and liberty.

Why people run around making stuff up, when there is plenty of real world evidence to support Ron Paul and other libertarians is beyond me. Only explanation I can surmise is that they like looking down their noises at the "sheeple"


March 23, 2005 George W. Bush signed a Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) with Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Texas....



Obama continues the Bush agenda of the NAU
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/33828

(...)

On March 23, 2005, leaders of North America convened and introduced the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP). The SPP agreement was signed by President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and then-Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Texas.

This arrangement went unannounced to the public and is unregulated by congress. Understanding the provisions of the SPP serves to explain why our southern border remains unprotected. Like inconveniently placed stop signs at rural intersections, our borders have become mere suggestions. By lacking border security, American sovereignty is under assault by the agenda of the globalists.

While the legacy of the previous administration can be summarized by the plight of two border patrol agents who were incarcerated for doing their job, Obama’s legacy seems to be even more nefarious. While the former situation was supposedly a result of the rule of law that protects everyone equally, the latter plan is being packaged as a positive security measure.

Released earlier this month with little fanfare, the United States has partnered with Canada to use biometric software to track North American citizens. The goal is to implement the use of “biometric chips” to keep track of the denizens of North America. In the four page declaration released by the White House earlier this month, the Obama administration has partnered with Canada to create the technical standards “for the collection, transmission, and matching of biometrics that enable the sharing of information on travelers in real time.” Legitimate travelers, that is.

Again, this is about control, not security. And this is about the creation of a North American Union at the expense of national sovereignty for a global society.

History teaches us that with great power comes great corruption. It seems that we are in a time of great corruption now. If we Americans and Canadians do not regain control of our governments now, we won’t recognize our nations in just a few short years.

However it is packaged, the global agenda is an act of treason. As a component, so is the North American Union.



http://www.wnd.com/images2/NC4%20%282%29.jpg

If it is made up, why do you suppose that North Carolina have SPP hologram on their drivers licenses?

North American Union driver's license created
http://www.wnd.com/2007/09/43387/

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/Snopes.html
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/cover032107.htm
http://www.wnd.com/2006/10/38508/
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/3/181336.shtml
http://www.wnd.com/2006/06/36586/
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-mainmenu-26/north-america-mainmenu-36/6647-faux-conservatives-defend-the-north-american-union
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/33828

[azxd]

Trayvon Martin.

Now look at everyone screaming for more gun laws. And they won't need US military to take them away, it will be UN soldiers.I see no new faces ... Gun grabbers are a small and dying breed, but very vocal.

And the UN ... They better bring reinforcements, 'cause this guy and all his friends are gonna put up one hell of a fight.
Range Me

[NewRightLibertarian]

Which story?

The 'if you have the 7+ days of food you're a terrorist story


I'm not arguing that point. The anti-liberty/anti-sovereignty thing has gotten really really blatant since November of last year. I'm convinced that there is *some kind* of conspiracy going on, but that doesn't automatically prove "the bilderberg/rockefeller/etc groups want to depopulate the planet"

They've already depopulated the planet of millions of people through their illegal wars that are marketed to the public as 'humanitarian' and 'for democracy.' It's just a question of how evil they are and how many people they want to murder, not whether they're eugenicist depopulation enthusiasts. That's already proven

[Xhin]

The 'if you have the 7+ days of food you're a terrorist story

The other things he quoted, "Waterproof ammunition" and "missing fingers on your hand" are in official DoJ flyers that were handed out to businesses to be on alert for potential terrorists. There is no source for the 7+ days of food other than the word of Rand Paul.

The closest I could find was a DoJ flyer that considers it suspicious if you make bulk purchases of MRE's (military food packages) at a military surplus store. Since this flyer also includes the phrases "waterproofed ammunition" and "missing hand/fingers", I assume this is the flyer that Rand Paul was talking about when he made his statement.

Again, there's nothing about storing 7 days of food.. anywhere in the flyer. Nor does it say that people who have purchased waterproofed ammunition or have missing fingers on their hands are terrorists in general -- they are however considered suspicious if they're at a military surplus store.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/wp-content/uploads/ColoradoFBISurplusStore.pdf

Find me a legit source on the statement beyond the words of Rand Paul and I'll concede the point to you.


They've already depopulated the planet of millions of people through their illegal wars that are marketed to the public as 'humanitarian' and 'for democracy.'

I agree that all wars past WWII (and even that to some extent) that the US has fought have been unnecessary and the reasons given for them don't check out. However, that does not automatically prove that an elite NWO group is behind it. You're making a leap of faith that I don't share because I like to look at the actual facts rather than politically-motivated fearmongering from *any* side.