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Brian4Liberty
04-02-2012, 07:08 PM
Move along, nothing to see here. This tragedy will probably not be a good fit for political opportunists.



Gunman kills 7, wounds 3 at California Christian college

(Reuters) - A gunman opened fire at a private Christian college in California on Monday, killing at least seven people and wounding three others after telling former classmates to "get in line ... I'm going to kill you all."

A suspect in what was the deadliest U.S. school shooting in five years was later arrested at a shopping mall several miles away from the scene of the shooting at Oakland's Oikos University, which appears to cater largely to the area's Korean community.

The school's founder, Pastor Jong Kim, told the Oakland Tribune newspaper that the gunman had been a nursing student there, but was no longer enrolled.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/02/us-usa-shooting-oakland-idUSBRE8310X920120402

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/02/BABJ1NTM3Q.DTL

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/possible-oakland-shooting-suspect-in-custody-119/2012/04/02/gIQAg4xRrS_video.html

dannno
04-02-2012, 07:16 PM
the deadliest U.S. school shooting in five years

Whoa, asians are going to start getting stereotyped as school shooters if this keeps up.

Brian4Liberty
04-02-2012, 07:17 PM
This tragedy will probably not be a good fit for political opportunists.


Well, except for the gun grabbers...

Anti Federalist
04-02-2012, 07:52 PM
The Miami shooting wasn't exploitable either.

Dubreus, 27, was killed, along with Laurore Ornis, 43, from Fort Pierce, and 12 others were wounded, including a five-year-old girl in Friday night’s shooting. Police suspect that the gunfire was part of a battle between gang members in the largely Haitian communities of North Miami and North Miami Beach.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/02/2728339/funeral-home-shooting-leaves-questions.html#storylink=cpy

Brian4Liberty
04-02-2012, 07:55 PM
The Miami shooting wasn't exploitable either.


It's amazing how there is so little coverage.

Has today's Oakland shooting been covered on the cable networks like CNN?

hazek
04-02-2012, 08:03 PM
Impossible to be true. Guns are prohibited on school grounds by law so this couldn't have happened.

Brian4Liberty
04-02-2012, 09:00 PM
Impossible to be true. Guns are prohibited on school grounds by law so this couldn't have happened.

Apparently it's already down the memory hole, so it didn't happen.

Seven imaginary funerals to follow.

iGGz
04-02-2012, 09:03 PM
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donnay
04-02-2012, 09:10 PM
I bet he was on psychotropic drugs.

coastie
04-02-2012, 09:22 PM
Impossible to be true. Guns are prohibited on school grounds by law so this couldn't have happened.

Eggs Zachly. No way, this is fake. The cops would have stopped him as soon as he loaded his gun, because cops protect us always and besides, guns are bad in California and there's like 50 laws he would have had to break to pull this off. Nobody that's crazy.


I bet he was onstopped taking his psychotropic drugs.

fixed that for ya:p

pcgame
04-02-2012, 10:00 PM
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ghengis86
04-02-2012, 10:37 PM
I bet he was on psychotropic drugs.

Going out on a (very thick) limb, eh? What if I take that bet; what odds do I get that he wasn't on some sort if doctor prescribed drug?

Screw the safe bet, I need to make some more FRNs!!

John F Kennedy III
04-02-2012, 10:42 PM
Whoa, asians are going to start getting stereotyped as school shooters if this keeps up.

Maybe:

http://voices.yahoo.com/days-anniversary-columbine-another-campus-304495.html

pcosmar
04-02-2012, 11:00 PM
Going out on a (very thick) limb, eh? What if I take that bet; what odds do I get that he wasn't on some sort if doctor prescribed drug?

Screw the safe bet, I need to make some more FRNs!!

I would give good odds,,

sadly I have no money to bet, so you won't have to worry about losing.

http://ssristories.com/index.php

donnay
04-03-2012, 08:36 AM
Going out on a (very thick) limb, eh? What if I take that bet; what odds do I get that he wasn't on some sort if doctor prescribed drug?

Screw the safe bet, I need to make some more FRNs!!

I would gladly take that bet! However, MSM has a propensity to leave those sorted details out of the main news, only for it to come out several months (even years) later when no one is paying attention any more.

"Psychotropic drugs are prescribed to children in the United States at three times the rate of children in Europe, according to one of the first studies to rigorously compare such prescription patterns between different countries.

(...)

Among U.S. children between the ages of five and nine, the rate was more than 8 percent, or four times the European rate. The use of more than one drug at a time by U.S. children was also widespread.

(...)

In the United States, more than 75 percent of psychotropic drugs were prescribed to children "off-label," for uses not approved by the FDA."

http://www.naturalnews.com/025375_children_child_drug.html

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"Today, psychotropic medications are the most widely prescribed drugs in America. Prescription drugs ads bring in $643 billion worldwide, with the United States accounting for half the market. The pharmaceutical industry is the most profitable of all US businesses.

In 2008, the industry made $9.6 billion from antidepressants and $4.8 billion off of ADHD medications in America. Worldwide sales of the anti-anxiety medication, Xanax, rose 50% from 2003 to 2008: totaling $350 million.

As the common use of psychiatric medications rises, the rate of people that attempt to address the roots of their problems through psychotherapy has dropped. This is so even though prescription drugs are the cause of more deaths every year in the US than those resulting from crack cocaine, methamphetamine and heroin combined."

(...)

We’re indoctrinated into taking drugs and dulling our feelings from the outset. Psychiatric prescriptions for children have increased by 50% from 1996 to 2006 and adult use has risen 73%. The US Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality says that treatment for mental disorders in children made up the bulk of the money spent on them in 2006 healthcare: $8.9 billion.

http://www.draxe.com/brainwashed-by-psychotropic-drugs/


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"About 10% of Americans — or 27 million people — were taking antidepressants in 2005, the last year for which data were available at the time the study was written. That's about twice the number in 1996, according to the study of nearly 50,000 children and adults in today's Archives of General Psychiatry. Yet the majority weren't being treated for depression. Half of those taking antidepressants used them for back pain, nerve pain, fatigue, sleep difficulties or other problems, the study says."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-08-03-antidepressants_N.htm

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Doping Kids with Ritalin for ADHD (http://www.ritalindeath.com/Doping-Kids.htm)

Virginia Tech Shooter's Psych Doctor Hid Mental Health Records for Seung-Hui Cho (http://www.naturalnews.com/026682_Chi_health_shooting.html)

Arizona Shooter Jared Lee Loughner Most Likely on Psychotropic Drugs (http://naturalsociety.com/arizona-shooter-jared-lee-loughner-most-likely-on-psychotropic-drugs/)

Family Wonders if Prozac Prompted School Shootings (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/26/national/26shoot.html?_r=1&ex=1269493200&en=3f84c15a8b8943c4&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt)

What's Behind the Epidemic of Family-Killings? Could it Be Anti-Depressants? (http://www.alternet.org/health/139243)

Athan
04-03-2012, 08:50 AM
Isn't that a state where guns are almost illegal anyway? Guess gun grabbing laws don't work.

KMX
04-03-2012, 09:59 AM
SWAT got there in like 10 mins??? Weird. Usually takes an hour or so to round up SWAT.

Brian4Liberty
04-03-2012, 10:00 AM
Maybe:

http://voices.yahoo.com/days-anniversary-columbine-another-campus-304495.html

And another:


Chai Soua Vang (born September 24, 1968) is a naturalized U.S. citizen and a Hmong immigrant from Laos. While on a hunting trip in northern Wisconsin, Vang shot eight people, who were also hunting in the area, on November 21, 2004. Six were killed and two were left wounded.

Of course the only reason to bring this up is the constant media narrative that only white (and now "white Hispanics") have guns and shoot people. People losing their minds and killing people is 100% race independent. No group has a monopoly on sanity or insanity.

Origanalist
04-03-2012, 10:07 AM
And another:



Of course the only reason to bring this up is the constant media narrative that only white (and now "white Hispanics") have guns and shoot people. People losing their minds and killing people is 100% race independent. No group has a monopoly on sanity or insanity.

I'll bet there was a cracker in that woodpile somewhere.

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 02:45 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8608195


OAKLAND, Calif. (KGO) -- Family members are now making funeral plans for their loved ones killed in the massacre.

They are 21-year old Lydia Sim, 23-year-old Grace Kim, 24-year-old Katleen Ping, 33-year-old Sonam Choedon, 38-year-old Tshering Bhutia, 40-year-old Doris Chibuko and Judith Seymour age 53.

Another memorial will be held tonight for one of the shooting victims.

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 02:50 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/04/MNFU1NU4S1.DTL


Oikos shooting victim: Lydia Sim

Lydia Sim, 21, was studying nursing at Oakland's Oikos University so that, one day, she could become a pediatrician.

"All she wanted to do was work with children," said her father, Yongmin Sim. "Any kid that God would lead her to, that's where she wanted to be."

Lydia Sim lived with her parents and brother in Hayward and was training to be a licensed vocational nurse in Oikos' one-year program. But she aspired to eventually attend medical school and become a pediatrician, her father said.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/03/BAFU1NU4S1.DTL#ixzz1r6gssoqU

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 02:51 PM
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20319365/oakland-university-shooting-willow-glen-mom-judith-seymour


Willow Glen mom Judith Seymour killed in rampage

With her job as a tax analyst outsourced to India, Willow Glen mom Judith "Judy" Seymour had been laid off and decided to follow in her parents' footsteps by getting a nursing degree.

She was just two months away from reaching that dream when the unimaginable happened: A bloodthirsty gunman burst into her Oakland nursing school classroom and shot her.

On Tuesday, a day after the shooting rampage that killed seven people and injured three others at Oikos University, her family in San Jose learned what they had begun coming to grips with the previous night: Seymour, 53, was among those who died at the school.

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 02:58 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2125215/Oakland-shooting-Son-4-victims-does-know-mother-dead.html


'He keeps asking why we are crying': Family of Oakland massacre victim reveals son, 4, doesn't know she is dead - and they don't know how to tell him.

The family of one of the Oakland massacre's victims said they do not know how to tell her four-year-old son that she is dead.

Philippines native Katleen Ping, 24, was one of the people killed when former nursing student One L Goh, 43, opened fire at Oikos University, a small Christian school in Oakland, California.

Her brother, Kaine Ping, 21, told the San Francisco Chronicle that his sister was the one that took care of them all and that her son Kayzzer did not understand what was happening - and no one in the family home know what to do.

Grandfather Liberty Ping - who came to the U.S. 15 years ago - said: 'He doesn't know, he keeps asking everyone why they are crying.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2125215/Oakland-shooting-Son-4-victims-does-know-mother-dead.html

BlackTerrel
04-04-2012, 03:23 PM
Wow this is really fucked up and sad.

pcosmar
04-04-2012, 04:18 PM
Any info on what kind of Big Pharma mind fuck drugs this guy was on?

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 04:22 PM
Wow this is really fucked up and sad.

Yep.


Any info on what kind of Big Pharma mind fuck drugs this guy was on?

Nope. Don't expect them to even report that. Under rug swept.

pcosmar
04-04-2012, 04:25 PM
Nope. Don't expect them to even report that. Under rug swept.

It usually comes out later,, after the news cycle. :(

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 04:30 PM
Working two jobs, putting herself through nursing school...

http://pleasanton.patch.com/articles/friends-remember-oikos-shooting-victims-including-foothill-alum-grace-kim


Grace Eunhea Kim, 23, of Union City and Lydia H. Sim, 21, of Hayward were among the seven people killed in a violent rampage Monday.

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Grace Eunhae Kim was supposed to clock in for work Monday afternoon at Chaplin’s Sports Bistro in Union City.

While Kim, who also worked at Newark’s BJs Restaurant, was never late for work, her friends and co-workers prayed for the best as news surfaced of a mass shooting at Oikos University in Oakland.

The 23-year-old Union City resident, who graduated from Foothill High School in 2007, was a nursing student attending class at the university when a gunman rampaged throughout the small campus Monday morning. Seven people died and three were injured.

moderate libertarian
04-04-2012, 06:43 PM
Sad.


It's amazing how there is so little coverage.

Has today's Oakland shooting been covered on the cable networks like CNN?


Media editorial prioritizing in covering recent events is very interesting to say the least.

BlackTerrel
04-04-2012, 09:03 PM
Really? This has actually been pretty well covered.

Brian4Liberty
04-04-2012, 09:29 PM
Really? This has actually been pretty well covered.

They are covering it well locally. Not so much on CNN or Fox. They have mentioned it occasionally, but usually for these kind of stories you get a lot more coverage.

BlackTerrel
04-04-2012, 11:59 PM
They are covering it well locally. Not so much on CNN or Fox. They have mentioned it occasionally, but usually for these kind of stories you get a lot more coverage.

Maybe I'm skewed because this is local for me.

matt0611
04-05-2012, 08:15 AM
Maybe I'm skewed because this is local for me.

I watch a lot of MSM for the lolz (CNN, Fox News, etc). I haven't even heard about this story until this thread just right now.

Pericles
04-05-2012, 08:23 AM
They are covering it well locally. Not so much on CNN or Fox. They have mentioned it occasionally, but usually for these kind of stories you get a lot more coverage.

I suspect it does not fit with the desired stereotype. It wasn't a case that could be portrayed as racist white trash right wing militia kook offs a number of people just like the average viewer of news with his high capacity clip assault rifle from his massive home arsenal.

The victims of the crime appear to be for the most part, very hard working people trying to better their lives via their own efforts without relying on handouts. Don't want to give that too much attention, either.

BlackTerrel
04-05-2012, 10:48 PM
I suspect it does not fit with the desired stereotype. It wasn't a case that could be portrayed as racist white trash right wing militia kook offs a number of people just like the average viewer of news with his high capacity clip assault rifle from his massive home arsenal.

The Korean guy who shot up VA Tech was the top story for a month.