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FrankRep
04-01-2012, 07:47 AM
FDA admits in court case that vaccines still contain mercury (http://www.naturalnews.com/035432_vaccines_mercury_court_case.html)


Natural News
April 01, 2012

Working Poor
04-01-2012, 09:38 AM
Well infuriating as it is nobody can say they are transparent.

wrestlingwes_8
04-01-2012, 10:36 AM
News broadcast claiming mercury is good for you :rolleyes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyR2XeLjYTU

War is peace, slavery is freedom!!!

phill4paul
04-01-2012, 11:06 AM
As I've never had children, nor any vaccinations since the military 30 years ago, I never really took the time to look into mercury levels in vaccines. I know the FDA warns about mercury levels in fish for pregnant women. What would be the level in vaccines as opposed to fish?

Zippyjuan
04-01-2012, 12:22 PM
Partially accurate. Some flu vaccines do contain thimerisol and some versions are not. This information has not been any sort of "secret" or "lie". Versions with thimerisol are not intended for children.Vaccines intended for children were to have had the thimerisol removed by 2006.

It is my opinion that most people don't need a flu vaccine. The vaccine will cover the most common version of the virus which were out in the previous season- if you were exposed then, you will probably have immunity this year. There will be a new virus version which makes the rounds this year- and it won't be covered in this year's vaccine so you won't really benefit much from getting one.

FrankRep
04-01-2012, 12:40 PM
Partially accurate. Some flu vaccines do contain thimerisol and some versions are not. This information has not been any sort of "secret" or "lie".

There's a large chunk of the American population that doesn't know there's mercury in vaccines.

wrestlingwes_8
04-01-2012, 01:20 PM
Partially accurate. Some flu vaccines do contain thimerisol and some versions are not. This information has not been any sort of "secret" or "lie". Versions with thimerisol are not intended for children.Vaccines intended for children were to have had the thimerisol removed by 2006.

It is my opinion that most people don't need a flu vaccine. The vaccine will cover the most common version of the virus which were out in the previous season- if you were exposed then, you will probably have immunity this year. There will be a new virus version which makes the rounds this year- and it won't be covered in this year's vaccine so you won't really benefit much from getting one.

Says the MSM parrot

Zippyjuan
04-01-2012, 01:57 PM
There's a large chunk of the American population that doesn't know there's mercury in vaccines.

And how much mercury does a vaccine with thimerosol contain? 24.5 micrograms (mcgs) per dose. http://novaccine.com/pdffiles/afluria_flu_influenza_vaccine_package_insert.pdf One microgram is ten to the minus six grams so one dose would contain 0.0000245 grams of mercury. That is also equal to 0.000000864 ounces. An incredibly small quantity.

Let's compare that to say a 100 pound person. That person would also weigh 45,400 grams or 1600 ounces.

wrestlingwes_8
04-02-2012, 05:38 PM
And how much mercury does a vaccine with thimerosol contain? 24.5 micrograms (mcgs) per dose. http://novaccine.com/pdffiles/afluria_flu_influenza_vaccine_package_insert.pdf One microgram is ten to the minus six grams so one dose would contain 0.0000245 grams of mercury. That is also equal to 0.000000864 ounces. An incredibly small quantity.

Let's compare that to say a 100 pound person. That person would also weigh 45,400 grams or 1600 ounces.

Do you even know how many vaccines a child receives by the time they are 12 years old?

- DTaP: x6
- Hepatitis A: x2
- Hepatitis B: x3
- Hib: x4
- HPV: 3 doses
- Influenza: x12
- Meningococcal: x1
- MMR: x2
- Pneumococcal: x4
- Polio: x4
- Rotavirus: x3
- Varicella: x2

That is a total of 46 doses!! And I'm sure there are other optional shots that parents opt for, as well.

Not all of them contain mercury but I guarantee you no legitimate study has not even had enough years to test the effects these chemical concoctions have on a developing child's brain and body.

And you are just going to sit there and say, "Move along, nothing to see here" when the newest reports, released this past week, show the rate of autism has risen 23% IN TWO YEARS! Now, one in 88 children are diagnosed with some form of autism (1 in 54 in boys!)!! Dude, you can sit there and debunk all the other so-called "conspiracy theories" but honestly, do not parrot this COMPLETE AND UTTER LIE. That is a direct slap in the face to every family that has to deal with this horrible affliction that has been peddled to us by the criminal government and criminal corporations.

donnay
04-02-2012, 07:01 PM
As I've never had children, nor any vaccinations since the military 30 years ago, I never really took the time to look into mercury levels in vaccines. I know the FDA warns about mercury levels in fish for pregnant women. What would be the level in vaccines as opposed to fish?

Thimerosal

Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more than that.

The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters.

The toxicity of mercury has never been in question. The real question is precisely how much mercury-laced thimerosal is toxic, and what are the possible consequences for our children at low doses?

Eli Lilly and Co. supposedly answered this question for us back in 1930. Concluding thimerosal to be of "a very low order of toxicity . . . for man," the company hired its own doctors to perform thimerosal experiments in Indianapolis City Hospital on meningitis patients during a severe outbreak in 1929. This 60-year-old evidence was still quoted on the company's brochures as recently as 1990. Andrew Waters, who is involved in a lawsuit against Eli Lilly, claims that most critical studies on the toxicity of thimerosal were suppressed by the company until now.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/011764.html#ixzz1qw149ziQ

phill4paul
04-03-2012, 06:42 AM
Thanks donnay. That article provides a great amount of insight to someone unfamiliar with the controversy.

Domalais
04-03-2012, 07:17 AM
There's a large chunk of the American population that doesn't know there's mercury in vaccines.

The same can be said about virtually anything. Most Americans are willfully ignorant.

donnay
04-03-2012, 07:44 AM
Thanks donnay. That article provides a great amount of insight to someone unfamiliar with the controversy.

You're welcome. ;)

row333au
04-03-2012, 07:55 AM
FDA Deletes 1 Million Signatures for GMO Labeling Campaign - FDA slave to Monsanto


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR-oGMcBUX8&feature=share

Autism Epidemic: Now It's 1 in 88 Kids and Evidence Points to Vaccines


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-jWvWQxG_I&feature=youtube_gdata

tfurrh
04-03-2012, 08:58 AM
the newest reports, released this past week, show the rate of autism has risen 23% IN TWO YEARS! Now, one in 88 children are diagnosed with some form of autism (1 in 54 in boys!)!!

Hey, do you have a link to that report?

edit: found the link http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/autism-prevalence-rate-kids-united-states_n_1387886.html

tfurrh
04-03-2012, 09:30 AM
One of the comments :)
I am a biofeedback specialist, practicing energy medicine exclusively, and I advocate to all my clients that they prevent their families, both adults and especially children, from being vaccinated for ANY illness.It is a myth put out by the vaccine manufacturers that vaccines are safe and necessary for the health and well-being of everybody and that unvaccinated people are a risk to others. The body's natural immune system, given a healthy diet and the detoxification of harmful substances, is designed to protect one from pathogens. The body is, inherently, a self healing organism, and will do far better than any vaccines to prevent illness.
The whole vaccine industry is rife with lies and misinformation about the efficacy of vaccines, and the real reason for all the propaganda about the need to be vaccinated is the money that it makes for the vaccine makers, not the health or protection of the public.Please read investigative reporter Jon Rapoport's publications about the scam that is the vaccine industrry.

row333au
04-03-2012, 07:15 PM
The U.S. Senate has just released a report after an 18-month long investigation of the FDA and CDC concerning thimerosal levels in pediatric vaccines and the rising rates of neurological disorders in U.S. children. Their verdict: the FDA is guilty of forcing parents to inoculate their children with hazardous amounts of poisonous mercury in the name of disease control.

Senator Enzi (R-Wyoming), Ranking Member of the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, concluded,

“Two allegations were sustained [and] one allegation was partially substantiated…[the] FDA inappropriately utilized Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) guidelines regarding the dangers of mercury in vaccines containing thimerosal.”

http://healthy-family.org/caryn/220/senate-report-on-mercury-in-vaccines-says-cdc-and-fda-are-guilty-of-misconduct

Zippyjuan
04-04-2012, 11:33 AM
Do you even know how many vaccines a child receives by the time they are 12 years old?

- DTaP: x6
- Hepatitis A: x2
- Hepatitis B: x3
- Hib: x4
- HPV: 3 doses
- Influenza: x12
- Meningococcal: x1
- MMR: x2
- Pneumococcal: x4
- Polio: x4
- Rotavirus: x3
- Varicella: x2

That is a total of 46 doses!! And I'm sure there are other optional shots that parents opt for, as well.

Not all of them contain mercury but I guarantee you no legitimate study has not even had enough years to test the effects these chemical concoctions have on a developing child's brain and body.

And you are just going to sit there and say, "Move along, nothing to see here" when the newest reports, released this past week, show the rate of autism has risen 23% IN TWO YEARS! Now, one in 88 children are diagnosed with some form of autism (1 in 54 in boys!)!! Dude, you can sit there and debunk all the other so-called "conspiracy theories" but honestly, do not parrot this COMPLETE AND UTTER LIE. That is a direct slap in the face to every family that has to deal with this horrible affliction that has been peddled to us by the criminal government and criminal corporations.

None of those has contained thimerisol since 2006 (some even longer). List availiable here (scroll down the page to find thimerisol content of these and other vaccines): http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

But let us suppose that they did. forty six times 0.0000245 grams would be .0011270 grams. Then we also need to consider that the half life for ethylmercury in the body (the type of mercury in thimerisol and not the same as the type of mercury in say a thermometer or tunafish) is about seven days according to studies- meaning after one week, you have gotten rid of half of that. The study directly texted children who were given vaccines and measured actual levels of mercury in their systems.
http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/story/index.cfm?id=1848

February’s issue of Pediatrics offers another reason to rethink blaming the spike in autism diagnoses on thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative routinely used in several childhood vaccines until the late ‘90s.

New research from the University of Rochester suggests that infants’ bodies expel the thimerosal mercury much faster than once thought – thereby leaving little chance for a progressive building up of the toxic metal. This debunks the myth, believed by some parents and some pediatricians, that the gauntlet of thimerosal-containing shots many infants received in the 1990s – when the average number of vaccines kids received increased sharply – had put them at risk for developmental disorders.

“Thimerosal has been used for decades, but the surge in vaccinations caused fear that possible accumulations of ethyl mercury, the kind in thimerosal, might exceed safe levels – at least, when based on the stringent risk guidelines applied to its better-understood chemical cousin, methyl mercury, which is associated with eating fish,” said Michael Pichichero, M.D., professor of Microbiology/Immunology, Pediatrics and Medicine at the University of Rochester and the study’s main author.

But scientists are learning that the two mercury species actually behave quite differently. In fact, the body rids the kind found in thimerosal more that 10 times faster than it removes the kind one might encounter in a Friday night fish fry.

In the Rochester study, 216 infants from R. Gutierrez Children’s Hospital (in Buenos Aires, Argentina, where thimerosal is still routinely used in vaccines) were divided into three age groups to have their blood-mercury levels tested both before and after shots were administered at either their newborn, 2- or 6-month checkup. Researchers learned that, in all three age groups, the half-life of ethyl mercury in the blood – or, the time it takes for the body to dispose of half the mercury, and then another half, and so on – was measured to be 3.7 days. That’s a far cry from the blood half-life of methyl mercury, which is 44 days.


And despite thimerisol being removed from childhood vaccines not just in this country but European ones as well, the rate of autism has continued to rise- not decline- as one would expect if vaccines were a cause. The overall vaccination rate in the country has also not gone up over that time and yet autism rates still continue to rise. That says that something else is at work. One is expanding the definitions of just what is included in autism spectrum disorders as well as more people looking for it.

wrestlingwes_8
04-04-2012, 04:38 PM
None of those has contained thimerisol since 2006 (some even longer). List availiable here (scroll down the page to find thimerisol content of these and other vaccines): http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

But let us suppose that they did. forty six times 0.0000245 grams would be .0011270 grams. Then we also need to consider that the half life for ethylmercury in the body (the type of mercury in thimerisol and not the same as the type of mercury in say a thermometer or tunafish) is about seven days according to studies- meaning after one week, you have gotten rid of half of that. The study directly texted children who were given vaccines and measured actual levels of mercury in their systems.
http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/story/index.cfm?id=1848


And despite thimerisol being removed from childhood vaccines not just in this country but European ones as well, the rate of autism has continued to rise- not decline- as one would expect if vaccines were a cause. The overall vaccination rate in the country has also not gone up over that time and yet autism rates still continue to rise. That says that something else is at work. One is expanding the definitions of just what is included in autism spectrum disorders as well as more people looking for it.

You obviously just ignore what people say and automatically jump to your conditioned line of thinking, Fox News and CNN would be proud.

To begin with, the FDA's website does NOT constitute a legitimate or truthful source. Boy, I bet you sure feel smart quoting and citing known liars. Also, how can you say vaccination rates are dropping? They are now even recommending the HPV shot for boys, too! In my post I specifically said,
Not all of them contain mercury but I guarantee you no legitimate study has not even had enough years to test the effects these chemical concoctions have on a developing child's brain and body. It's obvious there isn't just a single chemical that is responsible for the rise, IT IS THE COMBINATION OF THESE POISONS. Plus, it's now been documented that some baby formula contains BPA. I'm not even going to get into all of the chemicals and hazardous materials that most of the population is exposed to everyday from our surroundings (these would have even a greater impact on babies than an adult). Sure, vaccines probably aren't the SOLE factor but I guarantee they play a very large part in this situation. A small child's brain is extremely delicate and you're going to continue to insist that these vaccines are 100% safe?? How ignorant could you possibly be? I really hope you don't have children...

heavenlyboy34
04-04-2012, 04:51 PM
naturalnews is usually not the sanest source, but the OP article is pretty good.

mello
04-04-2012, 05:02 PM
Do you even know how many vaccines a child receives by the time they are 12 years old?

- DTaP: x6
- Hepatitis A: x2
- Hepatitis B: x3
- Hib: x4
- HPV: 3 doses
- Influenza: x12
- Meningococcal: x1
- MMR: x2
- Pneumococcal: x4
- Polio: x4
- Rotavirus: x3
- Varicella: x2

That is a total of 46 doses!! And I'm sure there are other optional shots that parents opt for, as well.

Not all of them contain mercury but I guarantee you no legitimate study has not even had enough years to test the effects these chemical concoctions have on a developing child's brain and body.

And you are just going to sit there and say, "Move along, nothing to see here" when the newest reports, released this past week, show the rate of autism has risen 23% IN TWO YEARS! Now, one in 88 children are diagnosed with some form of autism (1 in 54 in boys!)!! Dude, you can sit there and debunk all the other so-called "conspiracy theories" but honestly, do not parrot this COMPLETE AND UTTER LIE. That is a direct slap in the face to every family that has to deal with this horrible affliction that has been peddled to us by the criminal government and criminal corporations.

There is approximately 52.7 micrograms of Mercury in a 6 oz. can of Chunk White Tuna.

specsaregood
04-04-2012, 05:03 PM
Not all of them contain mercury but I guarantee you no legitimate study has not even had enough years to test the effects these chemical concoctions have on a developing child's brain and body.


It's obvious there isn't just a single chemical that is responsible for the rise, IT IS THE COMBINATION OF THESE POISONS..

So if there hasn't been any legitimate studies done, how did you come to this conclusion? Just a hunch?

Zippyjuan
04-04-2012, 05:11 PM
To begin with, the FDA's website does NOT constitute a legitimate or truthful source. Boy, I bet you sure feel smart quoting and citing known liars.

If you can provide us with information which shows that thimerisol IS still in those vaccines in the US and how much, I would certainly be glad to see it. Perhaps you can find it and share with us. Disliking the source (Natural News is not a reliable source and neither is Alex Jones- both like to pedal fear more than facts) does not mean the information is wrong. Prove your position. I might suggest you check the manufacture spec sheets on those.



Also, how can you say vaccination rates are dropping?
I did not say that vaccination rates were dropping. I said it has not been going up recently (vaccination rate being the percent of people who have received vaccinations- not the total number of vaccines given). Not going up is not necessarily the same thing as declining.

The thimerisol- autism link is the easiest disproved case one can find. We had a condition- autism- where reported rates were rising. A suspect was named by some- mercury in the form of ethyl mercury (an organic form) in vaccines. We took that out of vaccines and the rate of autism did not decline but instead continued to rise. Therefore, mercury in the form of thimerisol in vaccines was not a cause or even a contributing factor in the rise. When you take away a possible cause and things don't change then it was not a cause.

My car is running poorly. I replace the oil filter and it still runs poorly. Obvously the oil filter was not the reason my car was running poorly so now I need to look at something else.

wrestlingwes_8
04-04-2012, 08:34 PM
So if there hasn't been any legitimate studies done, how did you come to this conclusion? Just a hunch?

I don't need to water a tree with a diluted mixture of chemicals for thirty years to know that it will effect the tree's growth and longevity in a negative way. It's applying common sense understanding of how the human body operates and functions. It is the same with ANY FUNCTIONING SYSTEM, not just living, in the Universe; introduce a foreign, unnatural object into it, and it will cause disruption and chaos.

wrestlingwes_8
04-04-2012, 08:41 PM
If you can provide us with information which shows that thimerisol IS still in those vaccines in the US and how much, I would certainly be glad to see it. Perhaps you can find it and share with us. Disliking the source (Natural News is not a reliable source and neither is Alex Jones- both like to pedal fear more than facts) does not mean the information is wrong. Prove your position. I might suggest you check the manufacture spec sheets on those.

You continue to ignore the points I am making. I never once made any of those claims you are asking me to back up. Go ahead, continue to spin the conversation; nothing more needs to be said on my part to prove you do not approach situations with an open mind but rather your own delusional forms of reality.

Zippyjuan
04-05-2012, 02:04 PM
You continue to ignore the points I am making. I never once made any of those claims you are asking me to back up. Go ahead, continue to spin the conversation; nothing more needs to be said on my part to prove you do not approach situations with an open mind but rather your own delusional forms of reality.

You indicated that posting a list of vaccine ingredients from a FDA site was full of lies. I was asking you to show what was lies with proof.

Perhaps I misunderstood what I was saying you were calling a lie? Maybe you can be more specific. Thanks.

specsaregood
04-05-2012, 02:21 PM
I don't need to water a tree with a diluted mixture of chemicals for thirty years to know that it will effect the tree's growth and longevity in a negative way.

Dunno, some just call that fertilizer and it has positive effects.

wrestlingwes_8
04-05-2012, 04:56 PM
Dunno, some just call that fertilizer and it has positive effects.

The only good fertilizer is compost because it is made from natural components. Chemical fertilizers literally destroy the soil and contaminate the ground water; plus any edible parts of the plant are then rendered useless and nutrient-poor. The same applies to the human body; organic fruits, vegetables and herbs have excellent healing and restorative properties while ANY unnatural chemical has the exact opposite effect.

Anti Federalist
04-05-2012, 07:33 PM
(Natural News is not a reliable source and neither is Alex Jones- both like to pedal fear more than facts)

I know you value accuracy above all things, so:

You pedal a bicycle.

You peddle fear.

Jus' sayin'...;)

For the record, I'm not sure mercury has anything to do with this.

I am pretty confident that the vaccines themselves, given in greater combinations and at earlier ages (some at birth) are triggering auto-immune responses that literally fry the infant's developing brain.

wrestlingwes_8
04-05-2012, 10:10 PM
I am pretty confident that the vaccines themselves, given in greater combinations and at earlier ages (some at birth) are triggering auto-immune responses that literally fry the infant's developing brain.

THIS!

+rep

donnay
04-05-2012, 11:05 PM
Was Dr. Andrew Wakefield Right After All?
http://vactruth.com/2012/01/13/andrew-wakefield-autism/


Maybe those who were quick to professionally eviscerate Dr. Wakefield ought to listen up to what’s breaking in cutting-edge scientific research regarding autism and intestinal/gut problems associated with children on the autism spectrum.

January 10, 2012, the American Society for Microbiology published what I consider a stunning report, “Application of Novel PCR-Based Methods for Detection, Quantitation, and Phylogenetic Characterization of Sutterella Species in Intestinal Biopsy Samples from Children with Autism and Gastrointestinal Disturbances” authored by researchers at the Center for Infection and Immunity, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York City—not in some foreign country. [1]

The researchers reported on using “the first Sutterella-specific PCR assays for detecting, quantitating, and genotyping Sutterella species in biological and environmental samples.” [1] This is significant information, I think, because the U.S. FDA, from what I understand, wants to prevent the PCR Test [polymerase chain reaction developed in 1983 by Kary Mullis], which can obtain results overnight and can be effective in vaccine issues—e.g., identifying viruses, possible adverse events or even prevention—from being made available to physicians, laboratories, and consumers. To understand more how PCR works, I suggest reading this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction.

Perhaps—I say perhaps—the problem with the FDA may stem from the ‘politics’ of science over patents and not that the test is accurate, useful, and can be helpful to healthcare consumers desperately looking for answers. Interestingly though, PCR can detect RNA viruses like measles and mumps, so what does that infer about implication for the MMR vaccine? Does the plot thicken?

Since the autism spectrum disorder now affects 1 percent of the USA population [over 3 million] and growing daily, it seems, one would hope that some connection of the dots will be made soon to stop this terrible affliction of two generations now—something our children did not experience in such ‘galloping numbers’ years ago, which the medical literature confirms.

Autism literally is a gut-wrenching health problem, which has been occurring since the push to vaccinate children with numerous vaccines began in the 1980s. Coincidentally, the ASD issue and multiple vaccinations seem to have become a parallel health issue or peculiarity.

In reading through the mBio’s online PDF file of the Mailman School of Public Health study, this sort of ‘jumped’ out at me:

“Sutterella species have been isolated from human and animal feces (30–32) and have also been isolated from human infections below the diaphragm; most often from patients with appendicitis, peritonitis, or rectal or perirectal abscesses (22, 23). Sutterella sequences have been identified in fecal samples and intestinal biopsy samples from individuals with Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis but also from apparently healthy adults (24, 25, 27, 33). Thus, based on these previous findings, it remains unclear whether Sutterella species contribute to inflammation and infection or are simply normal inhabitants of the human microbiota in some individuals.”

It seems Sutterella is associated with infections and/or inflammatory processes (Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis), which leads me to ask this question:

What role do vaccines with their numerous antigen-reaction-producing chemicals play in the inflammatory process within the human body, especially in an infant’s or toddler’s body, whose immune system is not fully established until around 2 years of age or a little older, depending upon each child’s personal body chemistry?

Dr. Harold E. Buttram, MD, and I co-authored several papers about the inflammatory process within the brain that probably occurs from vaccines. You can read them at International Medical Council for Vaccinations. One, in particular, that may help you understand what transpires, “Vaccines and Brain Inflammation,” can be read here http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/06/01/vaccines-and-brain-inflammation/.

So, in light of what I’ve said in the above paragraphs, I cannot help myself from asking this, which medical researchers ought to investigate, I think:

What role does Leaky Gut Syndrome [damaged bowel lining] play with regard to facilitating the inflammation process to occur?

Does leaky gut syndrome present the classic example of which came first, the chicken or the egg? Is Sutterella induced, or does it induce bowel inflammations?

Are some children born with a mitochondrial proclivity for Sutterella? The Hannah Poling case brought mitochondrial proclivities to the forefront. Incidentally, mitochondrial proclivities may not show up until as late as 14 years of age.

Does each vaccine’s toxic chemicals damage the intestinal lining thereby producing leaky gut leading to Sutterella colonies in ASD children, which non-ASD children do not have, as the Mailman School of Public Health study reported?

Perhaps we ought to consider this:

Before any child is vaccinated, a PCR Test should be given before and then later to investigate and confirm the ‘leads’ being offered in the bacteria gut story reported in the Mailman study; Dr. Wakefield’s findings as long ago as 1998; and my suggestions in this article.

We know what the researchers Williams, Hornig, Parekh, et al, at Mailman Public School of Health came up with. Dr. Wakefield reported finding a measles strain in children’s gut that was the same as in the MMR vaccine, if I remember correctly. So, the next logical step, I think, is to start tracking what’s going on with gut problems in children on the autism spectrum.

Here’s my further suggestion, which I think is scientifically sensible:

Any child whose PCR Test results indicate any abnormal intestinal flora strain/growth should NOT be vaccinated, as they just may be the ‘hidden’ candidates for ASD.

However, if those children are then vaccinated ignoring PCR’s results, subsequent PCR Tests should be administered before any next scheduled round of vaccines [2, 4, 6 months to age 14] to make certain that no Sutterella has taken over the gut, which possibly could precipitate ASD, based upon the Mailman findings and Dr. Wakefield’s work, which—if taken seriously—may have eliminated the current ASD problems.

My suggestions could be done inexpensively [blood test in most cases], easily, and scientifically IF those who have vested interests in maintaining ‘vaccines are safe’ get out of the way and keep their money and influence away from the FDA and Congress, I truly believe.

Reference:
[1] http://mbio.asm.org/content/3/1/e00261-11.full.pdf+html

Zippyjuan
04-05-2012, 11:37 PM
I know you value accuracy above all things, so:

You pedal a bicycle.

You peddle fear.

Jus' sayin'...;)

For the record, I'm not sure mercury has anything to do with this.

I am pretty confident that the vaccines themselves, given in greater combinations and at earlier ages (some at birth) are triggering auto-immune responses that literally fry the infant's developing brain.

Thanks for the correction. Didn't seem right but couldn't think the proper spelling. Too much time on the internet that day ate part of my brain. Some entire posts I would have rewritten if I had thought about them better- including in this thread.