It's official DON'T give birth in a government funded Hospital!

[Jandrsn21]

http://www.naturalnews.com/035398_hospital_social_workers_medical_freedom.htm l


(NaturalNews) Another shocking case of tyrannical, overzealous social workers and hospital staff has unfolded in Pennsylvania, where a mom who just gave birth in an ambulance to a healthy baby girl was threatened by a government social worker and accused of not allowing her child to receive "medical treatment." (A claim which is factually false.) In reality, the new mom, exhausting from giving birth in an ambulance, was merely asking questions and trying to determine how her newborn daughter was being treated by hospital staff.

A social worker named Angelica Lopez-Heagy continued to threaten the mom, who persisted in asking polite questions to try to determine what she was being accused of. In response, the social worker demanded, "Since you're not going to cooperate, I'll just go and call the police and we can take custody of the baby."

The social worker then demanded that the mom and dad sign a "safety plan" that would contractually bind them to whatever medical procedures the hospital tries to push on all newborns, including multiple vaccines. The term "safety plan" is really just a linguistic mind trick for the agenda of damaging newborns with vaccines so that they become repeat customers of the medical industry. Vaccines, as NaturalNews readers well know, routinely cause kidney damage, neurological damage and gastrointestinal damage, all of which produce huge long-term profits for hospitals, doctors and drug companies.

When the mom said she wanted her attorney to look over the document before she signed it, the nanny state social worker invoked her previous threat and called the police. The police then took custody (kidnapped) the daughter while hospital workers claimed the newborn was suffering from "illness or injury." (Completely fabricated to justify their kidnapping.) Then they forcibly vaccinated the baby without her mother's consent! This was all "approved" by the social worker, Lopez-Heagy.

Note that even though the hospital stole her baby away, if the baby ends up being vaccine damaged, the entire burden of long-term health care costs for that damage will fall squarely on the mother! In fact, the mom might even be accused of "child abuse" if the vaccine damage side effects in any way resemble physical abuse (which often happens, as vaccines can cause bruising, swelling and brain damage).

Hospital workers then proceeded to kidnap her daughter and kick the mom out of the hospital, taking "possession" of the newborn child and forcing the mom and husband to sleep in the Wal-Mart parking lot, only allowing her to re-enter the hospital every three hours to breastfeed (and I'm shocked they even allow breastfeeding. Isn't that illegal RAW milk?).

This is how parents are treated in America today: Like criminal dogs whose only function is to give birth to a new "litter" of victims for the state.


The Home School Legal Defense Fund is defending this case. This organization is donation-supported, so please consider donating at:
http://hslda.org/hs/state/pa/201203270.asp

I'm surprised AF hasn't posted this already. This story made my blood boil, frightened the hell out of me, and made me very sad for their family. You ask the hospital questions about the health of your baby, they call a CPS worker, ask you to sign a safety plan form, you say I'll wait for a lawyer, then they take your kid, forcibly vaccinate them, and kick you out of the hospital right after you give birth. I'm still in shock and I don't even know where to start. My suggestion do not go to government funded hospitals, do not give birth in government funded hospitals, and do not take your children to one EVER! I donated some money for their legal defense, send them some support God knows they need it!

[donnay]

I donated to the family fund. This is an OUTRAGE!!!

We need to get rid of these child kidnappers!!!

[Zippyjuan]

Vaccines, as NaturalNews readers well know, routinely cause kidney damage, neurological damage and gastrointestinal damage, all of which produce huge long-term profits for hospitals, doctors and drug companies.


Routinely cause? Routinely means that most people should get it most of the time. Nobody I know got that.

http://routinely.askdefine.com/


Adverb
routinely
1.In a routine manner, in a way that has become common or expected.
2.Done by rote or habit, as part of a routine, without attention or concern.

[Danke]

Wow, that sucks people like Angelica Lopez-Heagy are state worshipers.

Hey look, I have a hyphenated name, the state approved it! yea!

[donnay]

Routinely cause? Routinely means that most people should get it most of the time. Nobody I know got that.

http://routinely.askdefine.com/

Are MMR vaccines dangerous for children? Dr Suzanne Humphries urges parents to get informed

(NaturalNews) Are routine vaccines dangerous for children? Dr Suzanne Humphries, a practicing nephrologist (kidney physician) says the vaccine industry isn't giving people both sides of the story, and parents need to get informed before subjecting their children to vaccines that can potentially cause serious harm or even death.

It's all being revealed in a one-hour NaturalNews interview with Dr Suzanne Humphries. You can view the entire interview on NaturalNews.TV at: http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=BAE7F6323813CFAFB8338173FB11D429

In that interview, you'll hear Dr Humphries talk about:

• Why she became concerned about vaccines after noticing kidney failure in patients who recently received vaccines.

• Why vaccines are often contaminated with unknown viral strains, and why the vaccine industry has covered up known vaccine contamination (and knowingly sold contaminated vaccines to be used on the public).

• Why the entire vaccine industry needs to be questioned, and why a new effort is needed to scientifically assess whether vaccines are really safe or effective.

• Why the fairy tale that "vaccines eradicated polio" is a false mythology -- here's what really happened.

• Why the "smallpox" vaccine has never been proven to be effective against smallpox at all.

• Why vaccine industry research is extremely flimsy and ignores rigorous standards of scientific evidence. (Using improper placebos designed to minimize the appearance of side effects, for example.)

• Why the vaccine industry won't test vaccines versus unvaccinated children (they're terrified of the results).

• Why children caught up in outbreaks of measles are often the very same children who were vaccinated against measles!

• Why vaccines may actually suppress the immune system and cause increased vulnerability to future infections.

• Why many childhood infections such as chicken pox are perfectly natural, normal and even HEALTHY.

• Why the outlandish and unscientific behavior of the vaccine industry is causing an erosion of credibility across all "science."

• Why many of the people engaged in pushing vaccines have financial ties to vaccine companies.

• Why the vaccine industry is utterly unwilling to tolerate anyone asking intelligent questions about the safety of vaccines.

Hear all this and more in this exclusive interview with Dr Suzanne Humphries:
http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=BAE7F6323813CFAFB8338173FB11D429

Dr Humphries is one of the signers of the groundbreaking new document just released by the International Medical Council on Vaccination, called VACCINES: Get the Full Story: http://www.naturalnews.com/Vaccines_Get_the_Full_Story.html

Stay tuned to NaturalNews.com for yet more interviews and breaking news about vaccines in the days ahead. We will air an interview with Dr Sherri Tenpenny tomorrow, followed by an exclusive video interview with Dr Andrew Wakefield the following day.

If you haven't yet seen the video from Cryshame, which shows an autistic child damaged by vaccines, you can view it here: http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=5659BB5E46216B5F26A5FEA2EE4FBE49

Note, also, that nearly all those who push vaccines are also pushers of GMOs. Both poisons are being forced upon the world in the name of "science," but both are actually based on extreme distortions of science and driven by for-profit corporate agendas.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/031184_Suzanne_Humphries_vaccines.html#ixzz1qZCDrh bq

Here is more information: Common Vaccine Ingredient Linked To Kidney Injury (http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/common-vaccine-ingredient-linked-kidney-injury)

[Jandrsn21]

Routinely cause? Routinely means that most people should get it most of the time. Nobody I know got that.

http://routinely.askdefine.com/

LOL I knew you were going to come! Do you think these experts we listen to are just making this up because they are just crazy. Go to the CDC's website you will see that people are dying because of vaccine injections! Why do you always take the establishment's position on everything!?

[Zippyjuan]

Provide me with stats to show that those are routine occurances from vaccinations and I might believe it. I have seen no numbers which suggest that kidney disease is a common occurance from vaccines. I do not say that nobody had never had any sort of bad reaction to vaccines but yes, the people at sites like Natural News like to scare everybody so they make it sound like it happens to almost everybody all the time. Give me evidence. A few anectdotal cases on the internet is not proof that it is a common occurance. Can you provide me with studies? Thank you for looking.

I will start off with some basic numbers. Chronic kidney disease is said to effect about one in ten adults. http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/kustats/ More than 90% of adults have received vaccinations. If we assume that every case of kidney disease was caused by vaccinations, that would mean that at the highest possible rate one in ten people could have gotten kidney disease from vaccinations. One in ten is not " routine" which implies "common" or a majority.

Now let's look at the most common causes of kidney disease:

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/chronic_kidney_disease/page2_em.htm

•Diabetes mellitus type 1 or 2


•High blood pressure


•High cholesterol


•Heart disease


•Liver disease


•Amyloidosis


•Sickle cell disease


•Systemic Lupus erythematosus


•Vascular diseases such as arteritis, vasculitis, or fibromuscular dysplasia


•Vesicoureteral reflux (a urinary tract problem in which urine travels the wrong way back toward the kidney)


•Require regular use of anti-inflammatory medications


•A family history of kidney disease


Anybody got anyting on the incidence of kidney disease which occured due to vaccination?

[Invi]

From what I recall reading, the mother simply asked to be tested for Hepatitis B before her daughter was going to be given the vaccine (a perfectly reasonable request, imo, but they ended up taking the baby and vaccinated her anyway) and was asking about the Vitamin K injection, which she was under the impression the staff had already given her baby.

Situations like this add to why I want to give birth at home. Never mind the benefits to doing so, and being in comfortable surroundings without strangers checking on you every however long, insisting that you're just not giving birth fast enough. :-/
I'm going to be a very, very unhappy Invi if I have to transfer to a hospital.

[Lishy]

Since it's natural news, I have to take the story with a grain of salt since I find a lot of what they say to be unreliable, or not really backed enough by the scientific community.

The real issues here should be the fact they are trying to suspend rights to her own child because she wishes to know what they're doing to her child before they do it. Plus that there's still concerns that vaccines taken too much at once is harmful to the body (ESPECIALLY a newborn!) because of the Mercury or other preservatives (And I'm saying this as a supporter to the ideas of vaccines...)

[Jandrsn21]

Provide me with stats to show that those are routine occurances from vaccinations and I might believe it. I have seen no numbers which suggest that liver failure is a common occurance from vaccines. I do not say that nobody had never had any sort of bad reaction to vaccines but yes, the people at sites like Natural News like to scare everybody so they make it sound like it happens to almost everybody. Give me evidence. A few anectdotal cases on the internet is not proof that it is a common occurance. Can you provide me with studies? Thank you for looking.

:) "1.In a routine manner, in a way that has become common or expected." Go the CDC's websites, just look at their information on Gardasil. According to them it is routine and measurable that people have severe adverse reactions, some resulting in death. I've done my DD, It's not my responsibility to do it for you. I personally don't care if you change your mind. I just find it interesting that you always take the establishment's view on everything.

Also did you read the article? Here we are talking about the right of responsible parents to care for their child in a manner they see fit. You made this into a vaccine debate. This was never about a vaccine debate, this was about the government taking your kid from you from birth, kicking you out, and giving them medical care the government wants them to have. It ought to be criminal and it is really disgusting!

[Zippyjuan]

Sorry about going off topic. I just don't like the way Natural News tries to sell things using fear and not supported by facts. I would like to see more verification on this story as well. If it is true, I definately don't agree with how they were treated. That should not happen. It is difficult to judge since we don't have all the information on the story. The lawsuit mentions that the kid had janudice. Was the kid taken to be treated for that (it was released to the parents the next day)? Was there some other medical complication? The hospital will not comment on the medical condition citing patient privacy.

But thanks for the tip on checking out the CDC page on Gardisil. Link:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vaccines/HPV/gardasil.html

They report 20,096 adverse reports from 40 million doses issued (that comes out to 0.05 percent) and they added that:

The vast majority (92%) of the adverse events reports following Gardasil® vaccination were mild and included, pain and swelling at the injection site (the arm), fever, dizziness, nausea, and fainting. Syncope (fainting) is common after injections and vaccinations, especially in adolescents. Falls after fainting may sometimes cause serious injuries, such as head injuries, which can be prevented by closely observing the person for 15 minutes after vaccination.

Not seeing any "routine" nature to any event occuring and things like kidney disease or brain problems aren't even in the top 92% of those. Sad indeed if they do happen but hardly "routine occurances". Taking out the 92% of "mild" side effects reported would leave 1608 out of 40 million.

[tttppp]

Routinely cause? Routinely means that most people should get it most of the time. Nobody I know got that.

http://routinely.askdefine.com/

Just because you don't go into kidney failure, doesn't mean there isn't kidney damage. I once had bad kidneys, however the "doctors" told me my kidneys were fine.

[CaptainAmerica]

I believe this falls under the definition of slavery.

[specsaregood]

Since it's natural news, I have to take the story with a grain of salt ...

Just as long as it is some all natural unrefined sea salt.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?366280-Salt-The-Guilty-Pleasure-That-Could-Save-You-From-Heart-Disease

[donnay]

Newborn Seized in Hospital by Police, Social Worker
Michael P. Farris, Esq.
HSLDA Chairman

I am not content to sit on the sidelines while the government gradually usurps the very essence of parental rights. I hope you share my determination. We need to stand with people like Scott and Jodi Ferris (obviously no relation to someone named Farris). Here’s their story:
Jodi went into labor a bit earlier than she had expected—and the baby was coming rapidly. Given their location and other factors, the midwife they had hoped would deliver the baby at their home encouraged them to get in an ambulance and head to the hospital.
Their baby, whom I will call “Annie,” was born in the ambulance in the parking lot of the Hershey Medical Center—a government hospital in Pennsylvania. Hospital personnel arrived very quickly and took charge of both baby and mom.
As any mother would do, Jodi immediately began to ask the nurses and attendants how her baby was doing. The hospital staff was utterly unresponsive. When they started to give Jodi an injection, she asked what it was and what it was for. They gave her vague answers like, “It’s just to help.” Only after giving her the injection of oxytocin did they tell her what it was and then asked, “You aren’t allergic to that are you?”
Jodi persisted in asking about Annie. No one would tell her anything other than “she’s in good hands and you’ll be able to see her soon.”
Eventually a doctor told her that Annie scored a 9 on a physical exam applied to newborns known as the APGAR test. A score of 8 or higher is considered healthy. (It is unclear when the score was given since she was in the ambulance at birth.) But shortly after this a different doctor told Jodi that Annie was “very sick” and would need to stay in the hospital. This doctor’s comments were accompanied by an explanation of his disdain for midwives saying, “Too many people think they know what they’re doing.”
About an hour later, another hospital staffer finally brought Annie to Jodi and said, “The baby is doing good. She will be able to go home in no time.”
Legal Requirements?
However, several hours later yet another staffer told Scott and Jodi that Annie would have to stay in the hospital for 48 to 72 hours for observation. Even though they persisted in asking why Annie would need to stay, his only answer was that “the law requires us to keep the baby for 48 hours.” When they asked for a reference to this supposed law, he answered, “you’ll have to get that from risk management.” (By the way, there is no such law in Pennsylvania.)
The risk management staffer eventually told them that even though they saw nothing wrong with the baby, they just like “to keep babies like this” for 48–72 hours. The Ferrises were told that Annie would not be released for this period since it was “unsafe for her to leave the hospital.”
Eventually, a risk management staffer admitted that the risk that was being managed was not the health of Annie but the risk that the hospital might get sued if something went wrong after she was discharged.
Ultimately, risk management said that they would be satisfied with a 24-hour stay and that Jodi and Scott could remain with the baby overnight.
You have been Accused
Late in the afternoon, a government social worker named Angelica Lopez-Heagy came into Jodi’s room announcing that she was there to conduct an investigation. Jodi asked to know the allegations. The social worker claimed that it would be against the law for her to show Jodi the allegations.
Jodi replied that she would not be comfortable answering the questions if she couldn’t know the allegations. Immediately the social worker proclaimed, “Since you’re not going to cooperate, I’ll just go and call the police and we can take custody of the baby.”
Fearing that the social worker would carry out her threat, Jodi replied that she was willing to cooperate.
The social worker soon intimated that the issue was Jodi’s refusal to consent to medical treatment for the baby. Jodi replied that she had no idea why anyone would say that. The social worker claimed that she had refused to allow a Vitamin K shot for Annie. Jodi replied that no one had asked her about such a shot. Moreover, she had overheard hospital staffers saying that they had already given Annie such a shot.
Neither the social worker nor any hospital staffer ever gave Jodi or Scott any example of any medically necessary treatment that they had refused for Annie.
At this point, Scott left the hospital to tend to their older children who were staying with friends.
Ordering Tests
Shortly after this, the hospital asked to check Annie’s white blood cell count and to perform a strep test. Jodi agreed to the testing.
Then the hospital demanded that they give Annie shot for Hepatitis B. Jodi said that she would agree only if they tested her or Annie to see if either of them were positive. If so, then she was quite willing to have the shot for Annie. The hospital claimed that they had forgotten about this earlier when it was still possible to test that day, and that they needed to give the shot anyway without any testing.
When the social worker pressed her to make an immediate decision about this shot, Jodi asked her if they could simply wait until Scott got back before they decided.
Put yourself in Jodi’s shoes at this moment. You gave birth that morning in an ambulance. The hospital has made wild and conflicting claims about your baby’s health all day long. You are exhausted. You are in pain. Your husband has gone to check on your children. And a social worker who has threatened to take your baby into police custody is standing in your hospital room demanding that you make an immediate decision.
Jodi simply said, “Please can’t this wait until my husband gets back.”
The social worker renewed her threat. If Jodi would not answer her question right then, she would call the police. And then the social worker started adding conditions. She and Scott would have to agree to sign a safety plan before she could conclude her investigation.
Jodi said that she wanted her husband and an attorney to look at the plan. She felt she was in no position to read such a document and really understand what she was being pressured to sign.
Thrown Out
And then the story turns ugly.
The social worker left the room and called the police. Without a court order they took custody of Annie, immediately claiming that she was suffering from illness or injury—a patently false claim.
The social worker consented to the administration of the Hepatitis B shot even though no blood test had been done.
The police made Jodi Ferris get up out of her hospital bed and escorted her to the entrance—they were expelling her from the hospital because she had not signed the “safety plan.”
Scott met her at the entrance to the hospital. The police escorted them both off of the grounds of the hospital.
Jodi was told that she would be allowed to return every three hours to nurse the baby through the night.
Jodi and Scott were forced to spend the night that she had given birth in their car in the parking lot of a nearby Wal-Mart. You read that right. They kicked this mother out of the hospital, and in order to be close enough to feed her child, she had to sleep in the car.
To add insult to injury, Jodi was given access to Annie only sporadically and not every three hours.
Baby Returned
The next morning a judicial officer held a shelter care hearing. After hearing the evidence, the officer immediately returned custody of Annie to her parents.
No parents should be put through this kind of ordeal. It is not a crime to ask questions about the well-being of your child. It is not a crime to ask for testing to ensure that a procedure is needed before it is done. It is not a crime to be a protective mom.
It is a moral offense of the highest order to kick a mother out of a hospital and to seize her child on the day of her birth simply because a mom wanted to have her husband read a legal document before she signed.
Both the medical personnel and the social worker engaged in outrageous behavior toward this family.
And we believe that they violated their rights under the Constitution of the United States. And we are going to court to prove it.
Why is HSLDA fighting for parental rights in this context? It is not a homeschooling case.
Parental Rights at Risk
We are taking this case because we are tired of seeing the erosion of parental rights in virtually every area of life. Parental rights in medical cases have an impact on broader parental rights, including educational decisions.
And the plain fact is this: If we don’t fight for parental rights, it is probable that our rights will be eroded bit by bit until there is nothing that remains.
We cannot afford to fund cases like this out of HSLDA’s membership dues. We are taking this case because we believe that our members and friends will stand with Jodi and Scott Ferris. We believe that parents should not be punished by “over-the-top” social workers and doctors.
The social worker’s priority was not the welfare of Annie, but her own convenience and her own perception of her power. She was aiming to teach this homeschooling mother a lesson.
And the hospital was clearly not concerned that Annie had a medical issue—they were just trying to avoid being sued for medical malpractice.
When government workers run over parents in cases like this, the lesson that needs to be taught is to the government.
This case will cost tens of thousands of dollars. Your tax-deductible gifts to the Homeschool Freedom Fund of the Home School Foundation will make it possible for us to take this case to court and to try to establish a precedent that will help protect us all.
All of our families are at risk when the government is allowed to run over one of us. When we stand together, we can fight back for freedom and for truth.
Thanks for giving as the Lord leads you. And pray for us. This is not an easy case. We really need your ongoing prayers.

https://secure.hslda.org/hslda/support.aspx?AppealID=430&PackageID=324

[onlyrp]

That's right, if it's on NaturalNews.com or Infowars.com, it's OFFICIAL.

[donnay]

That's right, if it's on NaturalNews.com or Infowars.com, it's OFFICIAL.

I knew there was hope for you, onlyrp! :p

[Demigod]

I have noticed that in the USA you are not very fond of vaccines but can I ask against which vaccines you are against?

[donnay]

I have noticed that in the USA you are not very fond of vaccines but can I ask against which vaccines you are against?


Against all of them!

Vaccine Secrets
http://healthwyze.org/index.php/vaccine-secrets.html

[Lishy]

TBH I have no idea what to believe when it comes to vaccines. But I have some acquaintances who work in Pharmaceuticals and a friend who's a nurse, so I'll get them to look into this.

I do know however that Paul is not against the vaccines. He's against the government mandates.

[thoughtomator]

Routinely cause? Routinely means that most people should get it most of the time. Nobody I know got that.

http://routinely.askdefine.com/

LOL I love when people pull a definition out of a dictionary while simultaneously adhering to a different definition. Pick one and stick with it

[thoughtomator]

I'm not against vaccines per se, I'm against forced medication in general. Civilized people generally consider any regime of forced medicalization to be a crime against humanity.

[donnay]

THE VACCINATION RACKET
http://www.whale.to/b/hoax1.html

"All great truths begin as blasphemies." ~George Bernard Shaw.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQtRI7A064




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttvCwQuFhk8&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liKsuQhC9Cs

Vaccination - The Hidden Truth about vaccinations and documents how vaccinations are causing more problems than they are helping.

Drug giant Merck systematically targeted "hit-lists" of doctors to discredit, neutralize or destroy critics of the safety and effectiveness of Merck's drugs.
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/merckdestroydoccritics/

CBS interview: Dr Andrew Wakefield on new vaccine brain damage study.
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/cbs-news-research-links-kid...

CBS News Online: Does HepB Vaccine Cause Defects?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2_ot8F6m7qw

CBS News Online: Controversy over Vaccine Research
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-atrfTvXEzQ

[roho76]

Routinely cause? Routinely means that most people should get it most of the time. Nobody I know got that.

http://routinely.askdefine.com/


Provide me with stats to show that those are routine occurances from vaccinations and I might believe it. I have seen no numbers which suggest that kidney disease is a common occurance from vaccines. I do not say that nobody had never had any sort of bad reaction to vaccines but yes, the people at sites like Natural News like to scare everybody so they make it sound like it happens to almost everybody all the time. Give me evidence. A few anectdotal cases on the internet is not proof that it is a common occurance. Can you provide me with studies? Thank you for looking.

I will start off with some basic numbers. Chronic kidney disease is said to effect about one in ten adults. http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/kustats/ More than 90% of adults have received vaccinations. If we assume that every case of kidney disease was caused by vaccinations, that would mean that at the highest possible rate one in ten people could have gotten kidney disease from vaccinations. One in ten is not " routine" which implies "common" or a majority.

Now let's look at the most common causes of kidney disease:



Anybody got anyting on the incidence of kidney disease which occured due to vaccination?

That whole story and that's all you got out of it. This lady had her baby snatched from her in the hospital by GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES and you debate about whether vaccines causing side effects? I don't know about you, man.

[wrestlingwes_8]

LOL I knew you were going to come! Do you think these experts we listen to are just making this up because they are just crazy. Go to the CDC's website you will see that people are dying because of vaccine injections! Why do you always take the establishment's position on everything!?

Because Zippyjuan is a tool of the establishment that parrots whatever some "authority" figure says; it's been shown thread after thread. Just another conspiracy theorist (yes, the people that do not believe there is a conspiracy actually are the conspiracy theorists).


That whole story and that's all you got out of it. This lady had her baby snatched from her in the hospital by GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES and you debate about whether vaccines causing side effects? I don't know about you, man.

See above ^

[DerailingDaTrain]

Say what!? Is any of that vaccine stuff even true? I mean backed up by actual evidence true. I've had vaccines injected into me before and I never experienced any problems. My doctor told me that all of my organs are fine...is he lying to me or something?

[tttppp]

Say what!? Is any of that vaccine stuff even true? I mean backed up by actual evidence true. I've had vaccines injected into me before and I never experienced any problems. My doctor told me that all of my organs are fine...is he lying to me or something?

Doctors always think organs are fine unless you happen to need a transplant. You could have terrible health of your organs and doctors would tell you their fine if you don't need a transplant.

[wrestlingwes_8]

Say what!? Is any of that vaccine stuff even true? I mean backed up by actual evidence true. I've had vaccines injected into me before and I never experienced any problems. My doctor told me that all of my organs are fine...is he lying to me or something?

Children diagnosed with autism has went from 1 in a few thousand 30-40 years ago to 1 in 100. Babies sometimes receive 6-7 shots in ONE day; their bodies cannot take that kind of chemical assault.

[donnay]

Say what!? Is any of that vaccine stuff even true? I mean backed up by actual evidence true. I've had vaccines injected into me before and I never experienced any problems. My doctor told me that all of my organs are fine...is he lying to me or something?

I bet you never got 36 injections before you were 6 years old.

How do doctors allow neurotoxins to be given to a baby who's brain has not fully developed is beyond me--which makes them complicit.

New Vaccine Revelation - The Neurotoxin Far Worse than Mercury..Aluminum
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/235320-New-Vaccine-Revelation-The-Neurotoxin-Far-Worse-than-Mercury-Aluminum

[Jandrsn21]

Say what!? Is any of that vaccine stuff even true? I mean backed up by actual evidence true. I've had vaccines injected into me before and I never experienced any problems. My doctor told me that all of my organs are fine...is he lying to me or something?

I never intended this to be about vaccine discussions. Of course your free to talk about what ever you like, but people are really missing the point here. The lady just gave birth, was asking about the health of her baby, asking the doctors what they were giving to her, they called CPS tried to get her sign sign some safety forms, she said I'll wait until my husband gets back, so the took the baby, kicked her out of the hospital, made her sleep in a walmart parking lot right after giving birth, and administered the shots without her consent. The whole story is tragic and is really alarming.

[donnay]

I never intended this to be about vaccine discussions. Of course your free to talk about what ever you like, but people are really missing the point here. The lady just gave birth, was asking about the health of her baby, asking the doctors what they were giving to her, they called CPS tried to get her sign sign some safety forms, she said I'll wait until my husband gets back, so the took the baby, kicked her out of the hospital, made her sleep in a walmart parking lot right after giving birth, and administered the shots without her consent. The whole story is tragic and is really alarming.

I get it. They want to force vaccines on people. They want to arbitrarily run you life, because they THINK they know what's best for you and your child. The bully you went to school with is now working for the government! It was intolerable then, it is unacceptable now!

If more people knew what was in the vaccines we could all stand united and refuse these toxic concoctions. As a parent my responsibility is to protect my children from these bullies!!

[Anti Federalist]

This.


I never intended this to be about vaccine discussions. Of course your free to talk about what ever you like, but people are really missing the point here. The lady just gave birth, was asking about the health of her baby, asking the doctors what they were giving to her, they called CPS tried to get her sign sign some safety forms, she said I'll wait until my husband gets back, so the took the baby, kicked her out of the hospital, made her sleep in a walmart parking lot right after giving birth, and administered the shots without her consent. The whole story is tragic and is really alarming.