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WilliamC
03-28-2012, 12:58 PM
Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law

By David G. Savage

March 28, 2012, 8:35 a.m.
Reporting from Washington—

The Supreme Court's conservative justices said Wednesday they are prepared to strike down President Obama’s healthcare law entirely.

Picking up where they left off Tuesday, the conservatives said they thought a decision striking down the law's controversial individual mandate to purchase health insurance means the whole statute should fall with it.

The court’s conservatives sounded as though they had determined for themselves that the 2,700-page measure must be declared unconstitutional.

"One way or another, Congress will have to revisit it in toto," said Justice Antonin Scalia.

Agreeing, Justice Anthony Kennedy said it would be an "extreme proposition" to allow the various insurance regulations to stand after the mandate was struck down.

Meanwhile, the court's liberal justices argued for restraint. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said the court should do a "salvage job," not undertake a “wrecking operation." But she looked to be out-voted.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. said they shared the view of Scalia and Kennedy that the law should stand or fall in total. Along with Justice Clarence Thomas, they would have a majority to strike down the entire statute as unconstitutional.

An Obama administration lawyer, urging caution, said it would be "extraordinary" for the court to throw out the entire law. About 2.5 million young people under age 26 are on their parents' insurance now because of the new law. If it were struck down entirely, "2.5 million of them would be thrown off the insurance rolls," said Edwin Kneedler.

The administration indicated it was prepared to accept a ruling that some of the insurance reforms should fall if the mandate were struck down. For example, insurers would not be required to sell coverage to people with preexisting conditions. But Kneedler, a deputy solicitor general, said the court should go no further.

But the court's conservatives said the law was passed as a package and must fall as a package.

The justices are scheduled to meet Wednesday afternoon to debate the law's Medicaid expansion.

Shredmonster
03-28-2012, 01:13 PM
If they don't strike this down welcome to Amerika. Changed forever.

AuH20
03-28-2012, 01:14 PM
The only redeeming part of Bush's legacy. This is going to be awfully ironic, if this gets knocked down. Roberts and Alito are money in the bank

WilliamC
03-28-2012, 01:19 PM
Supreme Court Justice nominations, the ultimate trump card of Presidential elections.

Lucille
03-28-2012, 01:31 PM
The only redeeming part of Bush's legacy. This is going to be awfully ironic, if this gets knocked down. Roberts and Alito are money in the bank

I blame the Bush GOP that it ever came to this. Rather than heading this abomination off at the pass by legalize buying insurance across state lines and passing tort reform (among other solutions), they spent their CONgressional majority on expanding the Welfare State to the likes of which hadn't been seen since that evil SOB LBJ, and expanding the Police State here at home and the Warfare-Welfare State abroad.

ETA: Anyways, I'm not getting my hopes up.

kahless
03-28-2012, 01:35 PM
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AuH20
03-28-2012, 01:45 PM
I blame the Bush GOP that it ever came to this. Rather than heading this abomination off at the pass by legalize buying insurance across state lines and passing tort reform (among other solutions), they spent their CONgressional majority on expanding the Welfare State to the likes of which hadn't been seen since that evil SOB LBJ, and expanding the Police State here at home and the Warfare-Welfare State abroad.

ETA: Anyways, I'm not getting my hopes up.

Good point. But at least, he was pressured to nominate 2 solid SC justices, as opposed to a unknown like Harriett Myers.

awake
03-28-2012, 02:12 PM
'But what about the insurance companies'. One of the justices basically trotted out this defense of Obamacare-less. Amazing.

Reinforces the point that this was a bailout of the insurance industry with a wave of fresh government slave payers..


Isn't this decided in June?

JK/SEA
03-28-2012, 03:30 PM
decision in June...go ahead, hold your breath.

angelatc
03-28-2012, 03:49 PM
About 2.5 million young people under age 26 are on their parents' insurance now because of the new law. If it were struck down entirely, "2.5 million of them would be thrown off the insurance rolls," said Edwin Kneedler.

I don't understand why the insurance companies would want to toss paying customers off their rolls. Especially in the age group that is least likely to use the insurance. Isn't is a cash cow?

angelatc
03-28-2012, 03:51 PM
Good point. But at least, he was pressured to nominate 2 solid SC justices, as opposed to a unknown like Harriett Myers.

Doug Wead disagrees. He believes Myers was the shot at getting the Evangelicals represented on the Court. Personally, I'd like to have somebody without a law degree on the court. (OK, Tom Woods.)