Is the $10,000 "dead or alive" bounty offered by the NBPP on George Zimmerman justified?

[cajuncocoa]

Just want to take the pulse of the Ron Paul forum members on this point.

[RickyJ]

Seriously, who is George Zimmerman and why should I care?

[Phil]

Absolutely not..

[Philosophy_of_Politics]

No. NBPP is not part of the legal system. We have laws against vigilante justice.

[Cowlesy]

It's great fundraising for the NBPP, I think they said they've raised $1Million since the incident. Always good to profit off death and sadness. And there was nary-a-mention on the sunday talk shows, because, it's horrible for the narrative.

[Origanalist]

100% no so far. Did you know George Zimmerman was a "cracker"?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832

[cajuncocoa]

bump

[Cowlesy]

Trayvon, Inc.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/2012/03/26/trayvon-martin-inc/

[cajuncocoa]

Wow....just wow.

[cartemj06]

If they have a complaint then they are entitled to find him to serve him for a suit. they can pay 10G for that no problem. but to call for the mans death makes them culpable so far as I am concerned. they need to be arrested for issuing that statement.

Zimmerman has the right to a trial by a jury of his peers, and I think the case needs to be studied but whether zimmerman was right or wrong he still has rights.

[azxd]

A contract for murder is what it sounds like ... To bad Holder showed his hand right after the election.

Nothing good will come of this.

And NO I do not support such actions.

[moo]

trayvon had the right to life but zimmerman took that away when he murdered him so why should we care about his rights or his life?

[cajuncocoa]

trayvon had the right to life but zimmerman took that away when he murdered him so why should we care about his rights or his life?It sounds like you care more about revenge than justice.

[minusbear]

Suddenly we trust the government to do the right thing? Yea right. When the government falls down, citizens need to step up. Trayvon is a victim of the racist drug war.

[dannno]

trayvon had the right to life but zimmerman took that away when he murdered him so why should we care about his rights or his life?

According to Zimmerman, he was attacked by Martin and was being beaten with potentially deadly force before he used his firearm in self defense.

That's why. EVERY person is entitled to defend their actions in a court of law.

The fact that so far all witnesses have corroborated Zimmerman's story is a side issue.

[dannno]

Trayvon is a victim of the racist drug war.

.....or he started a fight and decided to beat some guy who was keeping an eye out on the neighborhood and happened to have a gun.

[awake]

Since assassination of American citizens without a trial is all the rage, everyone can do it! Must be really entertaining to the ruling elite to watch the angry mobs justify their power grabs by emulating them.

[Origanalist]

Since assiasination of American citizens without a trail is all the rage, everyone can do it! Must be really entertaining to the ruling elite to watch the angry mobs justify thier power grabs by emulating them.

awake, you get my very first "this".

[Liberty74]

trayvon had the right to life but zimmerman took that away when he murdered him so why should we care about his rights or his life?

So I guess people don't have a right to protect themselves anymore? After all, Martin did viciously attack Zimmerman.

No one has the right to attack someone and expect to get away with it. It's called self defense.

[Bruno]

Hell no

[Origanalist]

Suddenly we trust the government to do the right thing? Yea right. When the government falls down, citizens need to step up. Trayvon is a victim of the racist drug war.

There's nothing "racist" about the drug war. It's an equal opportunity oppression.

[roho76]

The only thing dumber than offering the reward and being an accessory would be claiming the reward and admitting guilt.

[dannno]

I just got a letter from MoveOn.org

They aren't putting out a bounty, but they do seem to be vehemently pro-Trayvon (not suprised)


Dear fellow MoveOn member,

I'm a MoveOn member and a mother, and my two sons look like Trayvon Martin.

As parents, we all have to warn our children about the dangers of the world—strangers, bullies, which streets not to walk down. But there's a special pain in explaining to my sons the suspicion and dangers they face, simply by being young black men.

One month ago today, Trayvon Martin was walking through a gated community in Florida with nothing more than an iced tea and a bag of skittles. But being a young black man in a hoodie made him "suspicious" to George Zimmerman, who got out of his SUV, tracked Trayvon down, and shot him dead.1

On that terrible day, my special pain and fear as a parent became very urgent ... and very real. Racial profiling is a sickness in the soul of our nation. It limits our promise. It divides us. And one month ago, it robbed Trayvon Martin of his life.

Trayvon's story is already inspiring millions in the call for justice and an end to racial violence. It also moved writer/activist Kevin Powell, Akila Worksongs, Jasiri X and the folks at MoveOn and ColorOfChange to record a new powerful video "A Song for Trayvon." Please watch it and share it with your family and friends to inspire more people to join this growing movement:

http://moveon.org/SongForTrayvon?id=38007-8873232-BaFaQVx&t=2

When my husband shared the news about Trayvon, my eyes welled with tears. I pictured my own two boys innocently walking home, just like Trayvon, and then never seeing them again—never hugging them. It was more than I could bear.

That's why I started a SignOn petition calling for justice for Trayvon. It's been signed by more than 500,000 MoveOn members, and I'm delivering it to the Justice Department today. Already, the public pressure from us and our allies is making a difference.

The Justice Department, the State of Florida, and the FBI have launched new investigations, a new state prosecutor has been appointed, and a grand jury date has been set.2 But we need to keep building the call for justice. And we do that by making sure each and every American knows Trayvon's story.

Click here to watch and share a powerful video about the injustice done to Trayvon Martin.

President Obama said, "if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."3 He might be like Trayvon too, and Trayvon might have been like my two boys; or your son; or friends of your children, joining you at the dinner table.

But Zimmerman couldn't see past Trayvon's race and hoodie to the promising young man he was—a football player, a horseback rider, a hero who pulled his father from a burning kitchen.4 Trayvon was young, he was alive, he was beautiful.

All of us sharing Trayvon's story and calling out for justice are fighting back against racism and senseless violence, so one day we no longer have to fear our child's walk home in the darkness.

It's up to us to make sure that every person in America knows what happened to Trayvon and how his death moved us to tears and action. Help us grow this movement by sharing this video with everyone you know.

Click here to watch and share Trayvon Martin's story.

Thank you for standing up for Trayvon.

–Maria Roach

P.S. Today, vigils and rallies are taking place around the country to mark the one-month anniversary of Trayvon's death. To find an event near you, go to http://vigilsfortrayvon.tumblr.com/ or check on Twitter using #vigils4trayvon.

P.P.S. Writer/activist Kevin Powell, who helped pull 500 people together in Brooklyn yesterday for the "A Song for Trayvon" event, has written a stirring and reflective piece for The Guardian on "Trayvon Martin and the fatal history of American racism." Check it out here.

Sources:

1. "Trayvon Martin: Zimmerman was not following Neighborhood Watch 'rules,'" Chicago Tribune, March 24, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=273396&id=38007-8873232-BaFaQVx&t=6

2. "Calls for justice rage on a month after Trayvon Martin's killing," CNN, March 26, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=273406&id=38007-8873232-BaFaQVx&t=7

"Obama: Shooting death of Trayvon Martin a 'tragedy,'" Newsday, March 23, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=273398&id=38007-8873232-BaFaQVx&t=8

3. "Obama: Shooting death of Trayvon Martin a 'tragedy,'" Newsday, March 23, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=273398&id=38007-8873232-BaFaQVx&t=9

4. "Trayvon Martin's Family Calls For Arrest Of Man Who Police Say Confessed To Shooting (UPDATE)," The Huffington Post, March 8, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=273399&id=38007-8873232-BaFaQVx&t=10

[Zatch]

Only suspected terrorists are innocent until proven guilty! No need for a trial! Lynch Zimmerman NOW! HE'S GUILTY!! GUILTY I SAY!!!! /sarcasm

[cajuncocoa]

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[onlyrp]

No. NBPP is not part of the legal system. We have laws against vigilante justice.

Be careful, advocating for the law may get you called a traitor, troll or government agent here on a liberty movement site.

[jmdrake]

According to Zimmerman, he was attacked by Martin and was being beaten with potentially deadly force before he used his firearm in self defense.

That's why. EVERY person is entitled to defend their actions in a court of law.

The fact that so far all witnesses have corroborated Zimmerman's story is a side issue.

:rolleyes: Your "facts" are sorely lacking.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/20/trayvon-martin-death-phone-call

http://www.newser.com/story/142660/witnesses-zimmerman-made-no-effort-to-help-trayvon.html

I agree that everyone deserves a day in court. I just hope most jurors are sensible enough to know the difference between physical force and deadly force. And I hope jurors are smart enough to know that most fights don't start on the ground, they just end up that way. If Zimmerman put his hands on Trayvon first, and every indication is that he did, then Trayvon was the one actually engaged in self defense.

[jmdrake]

Only suspected terrorists are innocent until proven guilty! No need for a trial! Lynch Zimmerman NOW! HE'S GUILTY!! GUILTY I SAY!!!! /sarcasm

And so your answer is....don't give him a trial cause you think he's innocent? :confused: :rolleyes:

[jmdrake]

I voted no of course. But one has to wonder the anarchist angle. If the government can't be trusted (and in this case it seems they can't) then what?

[oyarde]

Well

[cajuncocoa]

Rev. Jesse Jackson Denounces New Black Panther Bounty On George Zimmerman

The effort among some conservatives to exploit fringe group (http://www.mediaite.com/columnists/daily-caller-links-president-obamas-trayvon-martin-remarks-to-black-panthers/) The New Black Panthers‘ insertion of themselves (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-reports-black-panthers-offering-bounty-on-trayvon-killer-george-zimmerman/) into the Trayvon Martin (http://www.mediaite.com/tag/trayvon-martin/) story hit another snag today, as Rev. Jesse Jackson, who has been among the leaders of protests over Trayvon’s killing, denounced the group’s distribution of “Wanted: Dead or Alive” leaflets for, and issuance of a $10,000 bounty for the capture of (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-reports-black-panthers-offering-bounty-on-trayvon-killer-george-zimmerman/), Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman.

As anger surrounding the killing has risen, spurring rallies and protests, leaders like Rev. Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton have made a point of urging Trayvon’s supporters to channel their frustration nonviolently. In an interview with a local Orlando Fox affiliate, Rev. Jackson was asked, directly, about the New Black Panthers’ actions.

“You have preached about the groups who come out and rally about them being peaceful, how important it is they remain peaceful,” said anchor Amy Kaufeldt, “and yet there are groups like the New Black Panther Party that came out and put out flyers that say, ‘wanted alive or dead’ for George Zimmerman. What do you think about the group and the group’s remaining people?”

“The violence comes from Zimmerman,” Rev. Jackson replied. “The cover-up from the police department. We would do well to remain disciplined, focused and non-violent. Any diversion from that takes attention away from Zimmerman and Trayvon and the family. I hope we remain in the face of all these provocations, focused and non-violent. We need to keep the focus on trayvon, and who killed him and how that killing will be processed.”

Kaufeldt asked, “If a few weeks down the road this grand jury comes back and they do not file charges or decide that charges are warranted in this case, what will you be thinking, and what do you think the community as a whole will do?”

“The world will continue to intensify its protest,” Rev. Jackson predicted. “It’s a blatant injustice and intolerable at this time.”

“Given how massive the Trayvon Martin case is, and the spilling of innocent blood, we’re at a tipping point,” he continued, “very close to a crisis of bigger proportions unless something happens rather quickly. I do not know why this prosecutor, this state’s attorney and this police department seem to be covering up something. There’s something serious about the protection of Zimmerman in the face of all the crises being created in Florida and all the nation.”

The New Black Panthers are not affiliated with the original Black Panther Party in any way. In fact, leaders of the original Panthers have denounced the NBPP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party#Condemnation_by_former_mem bers_of_the_original_Black_Panther_Party), even suing them for use of the name, and stating that the New Black Panthers operate on “hatred of white people.” The NBPP has been designated a “hate group” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party#Philosophy.2C_ideology.2C_ and_criticism) by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the Anti-Defamation League.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rev-jesse-jackson-denounces-new-black-panther-bounty-on-george-zimmerman/