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cajuncocoa
03-25-2012, 04:19 PM
SANFORD, Florida (Reuters) - George Zimmerman cried for days in remorse after shooting dead a black Florida teenager, a family friend of Zimmerman said on Sunday, offering a sympathetic portrayal of the man at the focal point of a national uproar.

Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic, shot Trayvon Martin (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crimes/crime-victims/trayvon-martin-PEOCVC000188.topic), 17, in what he said was self defense during an altercation in the gated community Zimmerman was watching on February 26 in Sanford, Florida. After barely going noticed for weeks, the case has triggered protests and renewed a national discussion about race.

"He couldn't stop crying. He's a caring human being," Joe Oliver, 53, a former television news reporter and anchor in Orlando who has known Zimmerman for several years, told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"I mean, he took a man's life and he has no idea what to do about it. He's extremely remorseful about it," Oliver said, relating stories told to his mother-in-law, a close friend of Zimmerman's wife.

Oliver's account counters the withering criticism Zimmerman has sustained from demonstrators across the country who have demanded his arrest and accused him of racial bias in targeting Martin. Celebrities have taken up the cause of justice for Trayvon, and President Barack Obama (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics/government/barack-obama-PEPLT007408.topic) said "all of us have to do some soul-searching" as a result of the tragedy.

"I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color," Oliver said.

Sanford police did not arrest Zimmerman, saying the evidence could not disprove his account of self-defense, though the case is under review by a state special prosecutor and the U.S. Justice Department (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/crime-law-justice/u.s.-department-of-justice-ORGOV0000160.topic).

Zimmerman dropped out of public view shortly after the shooting and his whereabouts were unknown. The New Black Panther Party, an African American organization taking its name from the radical group of the 1960s, has placed a $10,000 bounty on Zimmerman.

"All these people who are threatening George, what makes them any better than the person they think he is?" Oliver said. "You've got all these people wanting to lynch the man and they don't know the whole story. There are huge gaps that are being filled in and interpreted without evidence."

Oliver tried to reach Zimmerman after the shooting but he had not spoken with him until Saturday in a conversation arranged by Zimmerman's lawyer.

As a black man, he said he understands how minorities are often unfairly treated, but he believed Zimmerman was simply doing his job by growing suspicious over an unfamiliar person walking through a neighborhood that had suffered some break-ins. Martin lived in Miami but was with his father on a visit to his father's fiance's home inside the gated community.

"I understand how they're able to leap to the conclusion. You have a dead teenager. This guy is white so it must be a hate crime. There's going to be evidence to come out that basically will justify George's concern," Oliver said.

"He (Zimmerman) confirmed for me that he was not the aggressor. But I did not go into details as to how it got to that aggressive point," Oliver said.

At one point Oliver became choked up with emotion talking about his friend but said he was coming forward freely even though it may expose him to reprisals.

"I just have to do what's right, not just for my friend but for everyone involved," Oliver said. "His mother in law lost her job for this. He's in hiding. His mother in law can't see her own daughter because she fears for their lives."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-florida-shooting-friendbre82o0fc-20120325,0,148228.story

Watch
03-25-2012, 04:25 PM
This guy is white so it must be a hate crime


And the tide turns yet again. Zimmerman went from white, to white hispanic, to white again.
Blamo.

cajuncocoa
03-25-2012, 04:28 PM
Just goes to show that the media have an agenda....saying Zimmerman is Hispanic doesn't play as well. :mad:

specsaregood
03-25-2012, 04:41 PM
Just goes to show that the media have an agenda....saying Zimmerman is Hispanic doesn't play as well. :mad:
never met a hispanic zimmerman; they've all been of the jewish persuasion. not that there couldn't be a jewish hispanic..i knew one once, his dad ran a sportsbook.

cajuncocoa
03-25-2012, 04:43 PM
never met a hispanic zimmerman; they've all been of the jewish persuasion. not that there couldn't be a jewish hispanic..i knew one once, his dad ran a sportsbook.And it's not possible that his mother is Hispanic and married someone named Zimmerman?

coastie
03-25-2012, 04:43 PM
Zimmerman dropped out of public view shortly after the shooting and his whereabouts were unknown. The New Black Panther Party, an African American organization taking its name from the radical group of the 1960s, has placed a $10,000 bounty on Zimmerman.

What is this bounty business? What are they going to do with him then? That opens them to kidnapping and all kinds of other cool charges.

coastie
03-25-2012, 04:45 PM
Oh, and what is a "white Hispanic"? Does that make Obama a "Black White" or a "White Black"?:confused::toady::confused:

James Madison
03-25-2012, 04:46 PM
What the hell is a white Hispanic?

azxd
03-25-2012, 04:46 PM
WTF did Obama do TODAY ... That is the real question while the distraction continues.

specsaregood
03-25-2012, 04:46 PM
And it's not possible that his mother is Hispanic and married someone named Zimmerman?
I take it you missed the last half of my comment you quoted?

azxd
03-25-2012, 04:47 PM
What the hell is a white Hispanic?The box of crayons has your answer ;)

cajuncocoa
03-25-2012, 04:47 PM
What the hell is a white Hispanic?An ethnic group made up by the MSM so this can be designated a hate crime. :rolleyes:

azxd
03-25-2012, 04:49 PM
Oh, and what is a "white Hispanic"? Does that make Obama a "Black White" or a "White Black"?:confused::toady::confused:Obama is neopolitan http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_n2QbmtghG4U/R6xvKWNmBAI/AAAAAAAAAN8/QWh8JI8MAbM/s320/ice-cream.jpg
Do not forget this FACT or yea shall surely be eliminated ;)

MelissaWV
03-25-2012, 04:51 PM
A furthering of the idiocy of racism.

Hispanics come in a variety of colors, even depending upon the seasons... like a great number of other people. That the distinction needs to be made by the media really is stupid. It doesn't matter. You can have someone of the precise same pigmentation as the victim harboring the idea that a young man of that color in his neighborhood is suspicious and a drug dealer. If the basis is the coloring of his skin, then guess what that is? The color of the person having the idea is irrelevant.

Now, does the above sentiment matter? Not a whit. You have facts in this case coming to light, and they should stand up regardless of the races, ethnicities, and whatever else involved.

Keith and stuff
03-25-2012, 05:11 PM
And the tide turns yet again. Zimmerman went from white, to white hispanic, to white again.
Blamo.

He clearly looks like a hispanic of at least partial Spanish ancestry. As far as the federal government in concerned, hispanic people of Spanish (or mostly) ancestry are white/caucasian. The vast majority of hispanics are considered white by the federal government. It does seem the media is likely being biased as normally the media would refer to such a person has hispanic, even though all of the terms (white, caucasian, white hispanic, hispanic and so on) are correct enough.

azxd
03-25-2012, 05:14 PM
A furthering of the idiocy of racism.

Hispanics come in a variety of colors, even depending upon the seasons... like a great number of other people. That the distinction needs to be made by the media really is stupid. It doesn't matter. You can have someone of the precise same pigmentation as the victim harboring the idea that a young man of that color in his neighborhood is suspicious and a drug dealer. If the basis is the coloring of his skin, then guess what that is? The color of the person having the idea is irrelevant.

Now, does the above sentiment matter? Not a whit. You have facts in this case coming to light, and they should stand up regardless of the races, ethnicities, and whatever else involved.Thus we find the reason why racial inequality is a travesty.
I agree !!!

Keith and stuff
03-25-2012, 05:19 PM
What the hell is a white Hispanic?

It is how most hispanics are classified, according to the US Census.

Question 6 of the 2010 form was what is the race. Hispanic isn't an option, but white is.
http://payvand.com/blog/blog/2009/11/14/us-census-2010-10-question-in-10-minutes/

Question 8 is, is the person of Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin?

A white hispanic, according to the federal government is a white person of hispanic origin.

James Madison
03-25-2012, 05:20 PM
It is how most hispanics are classified, according to the US Census.

Question 6 of the 2010 form was what is the race. Hispanic isn't an option, but white is.
http://payvand.com/blog/blog/2009/11/14/us-census-2010-10-question-in-10-minutes/

Question 8 is, is the person of Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin?

A white hispanic, according to the federal government is a white person of hispanic origin.

So then what is a Hispanic?

azxd
03-25-2012, 05:22 PM
An ethnic group made up by the MSM so this can be designated a hate crime. :rolleyes:
OH, what shall we do .... Dead men tell no tails.

azxd
03-25-2012, 05:27 PM
WTF did Obama do TODAY ... That is the real question while the distraction continues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNat9XmNVuU

William R
03-25-2012, 05:28 PM
What the hell is a white Hispanic?

Spaniards . Mexico City has blond blue eyed Mexicans.

azxd
03-25-2012, 05:31 PM
Spaniards . Mexico City has blond blue eyed Mexicans.Thus perpetuating the stereotype of inequality.
KUDOS to you Sir !!!!

phill4paul
03-25-2012, 05:37 PM
Spaniards . Mexico City has blond blue eyed Mexicans.

That's because the Vikings conquered Mexico in the fifth century. I read it on the Internet.

Actually, I didn't. I might just have to write something about it though.

azxd
03-25-2012, 05:40 PM
Kill the vikings :D

Liberty74
03-25-2012, 05:48 PM
WTF did Obama do TODAY ... That is the real question while the distraction continues.

They are installing the internet kill switch under his Oval Office desk. He also petted a few of the 30,000 drones about to enter the sky so he can prevent "stuff" from happening.

LibertyAll
03-25-2012, 05:57 PM
Black friend defends shooter of Florida teen
90% black people voted for Obama is 2008. 10% did not vote.

Keith and stuff
03-25-2012, 05:59 PM
Question 8 is, is the person of Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin?

A white hispanic, according to the federal government is a white person of hispanic origin.


So then what is a Hispanic?

Someone that considers themselves of hispanic origin.

phill4paul
03-25-2012, 06:03 PM
Kill the vikings :D

Hey, you think I'm kidding. There's legend of 'Teh Great White God' that had once visited and would again and the coming of 'The Killer' Cortez. If the Vikings had been there in the 5th or 6th centuries well.... There is already proof of them visiting the Nortes Americanos.

Damn, I think I am on to something here.

lester1/2jr
03-25-2012, 08:33 PM
from the 911 call it sounds like the police were annoyed with him. probably because he was trying to do their job and had no clue how to do it, thus he ended up doing this crime.