View Full Version : Input: The Grinch as Santorum's VP? An idea that won't sit well with Evangelical Santorum voters
Maestro232
03-25-2012, 01:54 PM
You Evangelical Paul supporters might want to start floating the idea of Gangrene angling for Santorum's Veep and scope out the reaction. I think if this scenario starts sounding plausible it gives us an opportunity to capitalize on the fact that many Evangelical Santorum supporters who see him as "the moral choice." Those same Evangelicals tend to really dislike Gangrene as "the immoral choice." This could create some leverage for us in scooping some more Evangelicals to our side.
PolicyReader
03-25-2012, 01:59 PM
I endorse this message. Also if any of our savvy RPF'ers with video skills can think of a way to formulate this into a short video, ;)
JacobSzumniak
03-25-2012, 03:07 PM
I doubt Gingrich would be Santorum's VP. Gingrich is stay in this to take his 200 delegates he will have and try to trade them in to someone for a nice position in cabinet or running an agency. He may even end up with Paul giving him a nice piece of government to run for his 200 delegate endorsement.
tbone717
03-25-2012, 04:07 PM
Personally, I think he is going for the VP (but also realizes Santorum's chances of winning the nomination are improbable). It could also be to increase his speaking fees down the road. The longer he keeps his name out there, the more in demand he will be for fundraising events, etc. Alan Keyes pretty much did the same thing.
coffeewithchess
03-25-2012, 06:02 PM
Personally, I think he is going for the VP (but also realizes Santorum's chances of winning the nomination are improbable). It could also be to increase his speaking fees down the road. The longer he keeps his name out there, the more in demand he will be for fundraising events, etc. Alan Keyes pretty much did the same thing.
Exactly the same for Santorum. According to the data, Santorum cannot reach the magic number of delegates...WITHOUT a brokered convention now. BUT, he can get enough to prevent Romney from outright winning it, and thereby FORCING a brokered convention.
Honestly though, I think Santorum is only staying in to raise his name awareness, so he can run again in 2016...probably think the Republican nominee (being Romney) will get destroyed by Obama, and he can just keep his campaign in place, and pick it right back up for 2016 with more name recognition.
alucard13mmfmj
03-25-2012, 06:50 PM
I think Gingrich is the wild card...
Santorum + Gingrich = gg.
Romney + Gingrich = gg.
Ron + Gingrich = close, but still need to convince enemy delegates to vote for Ron.
Romney + Santorum = gg.
I think our chances at the RNC depends on how strong the "Let's get behind Romney" presence is.
FindLiberty
03-25-2012, 08:06 PM
IMO,
Any combination that involves Grinch, Romney and/or Santorum will gitcha foe mo years of Obama.
On the other hand, Ron Paul / Napolitano (or Gary Johnson?) versus Obama / ?
would be interesting... (since Ron Paul = Hope for America)
Even if the GOP wins w/o RP by some fluke, after more wars, 'Empirical' decay and rot,
Liberty will have another great opportunity in 2014 and 2016 (if we still exist).
Interesting times... It will be an interesting convention in Florida!
coffeewithchess
03-25-2012, 08:58 PM
You Evangelical Paul supporters might want to start floating the idea of Gangrene angling for Santorum's Veep and scope out the reaction. I think if this scenario starts sounding plausible it gives us an opportunity to capitalize on the fact that many Evangelical Santorum supporters who see him as "the moral choice." Those same Evangelicals tend to really dislike Gangrene as "the immoral choice." This could create some leverage for us in scooping some more Evangelicals to our side.
The "evangelical" Santorum supporters like him for one reason, and one reason only that I can see...the homosexuality issue, that most don't even fully know of the FULL situation with Santorum about.
If you think I'm lying, I'm providing you examples below...who cares about things like the national debt, Federal Reserve...or following your oath of office (see Constitution).
http://i.imgur.com/YQPIj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5fXSe.jpg
seekingliberty
03-26-2012, 12:59 AM
The evangelicals here that we know do not like Grinch but like Santorum. Not sure how they would feel about Grinch as Santorums VP. Hubby's uncle is a pastor though and he actually posted on FB last week that he thought Santorum as president and Grinch as VP would be good. He had several agree with him. None for Romney. We said we couldn't vote for any of them but Paul because of the others records and 3 others also said Paul. For the ones that like Santorum, its all about social issues, they could care less about fiscal issues or at least just take him on his word that he is "conservative".
Kluge
03-26-2012, 03:19 AM
The "evangelical" Santorum supporters like him for one reason, and one reason only that I can see...the homosexuality issue, that most don't even fully know of the FULL situation with Santorum about.
If you think I'm lying, I'm providing you examples below...who cares about things like the national debt, Federal Reserve...or following your oath of office (see Constitution).
http://i.imgur.com/YQPIj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5fXSe.jpg
Santorum is getting the Palin vote.
One thing I can tell you almost for certain, he's getting less than half the Catholic vote, despite being Catholic. I have never once met a Catholic who has such a dumbed-down, preachy, theocratic persona, and I grew up in a Catholic town, went to a Catholic college and half of my family is Catholic.
PauliticsPolitics
03-26-2012, 03:19 AM
Hmm, I don't know if Santorum supporters would mind Gingrich as the VP, I mean, several months ago most of them were behind Gingrich back when he was "anti-Romney" polling 40%+.
PauliticsPolitics
03-26-2012, 03:19 AM
(double post, y'all know how that happens sometimes randomly)
Kluge
03-26-2012, 03:19 AM
The "evangelical" Santorum supporters like him for one reason, and one reason only that I can see...the homosexuality issue, that most don't even fully know of the FULL situation with Santorum about.
If you think I'm lying, I'm providing you examples below...who cares about things like the national debt, Federal Reserve...or following your oath of office (see Constitution).
http://i.imgur.com/YQPIj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5fXSe.jpg
Santorum is getting the Palin vote.
One thing I can tell you almost for certain, he's getting less than half the Catholic vote, despite being Catholic. I have never once met a Catholic who has such a dumbed-down, preachy, theocratic persona, and I grew up in a Catholic town, went to a Catholic college and half of my family is Catholic.
Kluge
03-26-2012, 03:21 AM
The "evangelical" Santorum supporters like him for one reason, and one reason only that I can see...the homosexuality issue, that most don't even fully know of the FULL situation with Santorum about.
If you think I'm lying, I'm providing you examples below...who cares about things like the national debt, Federal Reserve...or following your oath of office (see Constitution).
http://i.imgur.com/YQPIj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5fXSe.jpg
Santorum is getting the Palin vote.
One thing I can tell you almost for certain, he's getting less than half the Catholic vote, despite being Catholic. I have never once met a Catholic who has such a dumbed-down, preachy, theocratic persona, and I grew up in a Catholic town, went to a Catholic college and half of my family is Catholic.
luctor-et-emergo
03-26-2012, 03:43 AM
I think Gingrich is the wild card...
Santorum + Gingrich = gg.
Romney + Gingrich = gg.
Ron + Gingrich = close, but still need to convince enemy delegates to vote for Ron.
Romney + Santorum = gg.
I think our chances at the RNC depends on how strong the "Let's get behind Romney" presence is.
That's why the unelectable thingy should catch onto Romney... In all seriousness, since early January, a lot of enthusiasm for Romney has gone too the moon or somewhere else.. It seems like Romney is constantly on the defense... If that much changed in a 2 and a half months... Then imagine what can happen in the next two and a half...
Quote from a very famous letter...
"Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph." Thomas Paine - 'The American Crisis'
Maestro232
03-26-2012, 09:23 AM
The "evangelical" Santorum supporters like him for one reason, and one reason only that I can see...the homosexuality issue...
This is incorrect, IMHO. That is one of the "issues" but there are others...such as abortion. But it's not the issues themselves so much as Santorum's general approach of wanting to use federal power to address the issues in a way favorable to the Evangelical conscience.
And again, this is coming from an Evangelical (Paul supporter) who knows and interacts with many Evangelicals (Santorum supporters). I'm not trying to sound high and mighty here, but I really do think I understand this better than an "outside observer."
shane77m
03-26-2012, 11:00 AM
I find it funny that Santorum does well with so many "born again evangelicals" when the Roman Catholic church has officially labeled them heretics and pronounced them anathema.
How weird is it that the evangelical vote seems to be going to the 2 catholics... Also how weird is it that there's only 1 protestant running...
I don't do religion so forgive it that this just dawned on me. :confused:
coffeewithchess
03-26-2012, 10:50 PM
This is incorrect, IMHO. That is one of the "issues" but there are others...such as abortion. But it's not the issues themselves so much as Santorum's general approach of wanting to use federal power to address the issues in a way favorable to the Evangelical conscience.
And again, this is coming from an Evangelical (Paul supporter) who knows and interacts with many Evangelicals (Santorum supporters). I'm not trying to sound high and mighty here, but I really do think I understand this better than an "outside observer."
Not an outside observer. The pictures I posted, are from my Facebook pages. The people I know, are "Evangelicals" and I am one myself. You can read the words for yourself.
Again, if "abortion" was such an issue, and they were purists...there is NO way they could support Santorum.
1) Giving the world's largest abortion clinic MILLIONS of dollars from taxpayers' by voting "Yes" on the bills...Santorum did
2) Endorsing the pro-abortion candidate Arlen Specter over the pro-life candidate Pat Toomey (not sure on spelling)
There is NO way to justify those...NONE. Those are POLITICAL issues he has taken, and he had control over directly.
eduardo89
03-27-2012, 01:07 AM
Santorum is getting the Palin vote.
One thing I can tell you almost for certain, he's getting less than half the Catholic vote, despite being Catholic. I have never once met a Catholic who has such a dumbed-down, preachy, theocratic persona, and I grew up in a Catholic town, went to a Catholic college and half of my family is Catholic.
Not even me? ;)
alucard13mmfmj
03-27-2012, 01:14 AM
How weird is it that the evangelical vote seems to be going to the 2 catholics... Also how weird is it that there's only 1 protestant running...
I don't do religion so forgive it that this just dawned on me. :confused:
From what it appears... religion plays a huge part in the nomination. It just shows how fractured the GOP/USA is. Democrats... democrats at least addresses, even though its rhetoric/bs, the REAL issues.... not what 2 males do in the privacy of their homes.
Kluge
03-27-2012, 03:54 AM
Not even me? ;)
Naw, even you aren't such a turd. :p
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