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sailingaway
03-23-2012, 05:44 PM
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/now-with-alex-wagner/46836857/#46836857

I love Benton's come back for the tool who calls the campaign a 'flop'.

PaulSoHard
03-23-2012, 06:00 PM
Can't believe that guy called the campaign a flop. He obviously does not understand the delegate process nor does he find his own time to look at what we're doing

Scott_in_PA
03-23-2012, 06:03 PM
Does anyone know how exactly Ron is hoarding cash?

I thought he had a little over a million left, after the last report.

:confused:

VictorB
03-23-2012, 06:10 PM
Benton put that guy in his place. This is clear proof that the talking heads have NO clue as to what the rules are and what they are talking about. That guy thought he was going to punk Benton on that question and it turned around and made him look like a fool in front of his colleagues.

I will guarantee you that those folks won't say anything like that to anyone on the Paul campaign again.

rp713
03-23-2012, 06:12 PM
"dude you dont even know what you're talking about" lol. jesse shuttin down pundits.

devil21
03-23-2012, 06:12 PM
Benton was pretty good there with the smackdown at the end.

opinionatedfool
03-23-2012, 06:13 PM
Benton put that guy in his place. This is clear proof that the talking heads have NO clue as to what the rules are and what they are talking about. That guy thought he was going to punk Benton on that question and it turned around and made him look like a fool in front of his colleagues.

I will guarantee you that those folks won't say anything like that to anyone on the Paul campaign again.

That was great! Benton made him look like a fool.

anewvoice
03-23-2012, 06:14 PM
That and blah blah, they played our ad for free, finally.

justatrey
03-23-2012, 06:26 PM
Jesse really did a great job in this one. Handled all questions very well.

40oz
03-23-2012, 06:26 PM
http://t.co/navmUmYF

According to Jesse we have our delegate plurality in 5 states.

rp713
03-23-2012, 06:27 PM
repost.

speciallyblend
03-23-2012, 06:36 PM
ooo yeah jesse benton schooled msnbc . i mean SLAMMED msnbc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADgCeYJMN4<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADgCeYJMN4">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADgCeYJMN4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADgCeYJMN4)

40oz
03-23-2012, 06:56 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AotpnGgCEAAZqKo.png

Pisces
03-23-2012, 07:04 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AotpnGgCEAAZqKo.png

Does anyone know the name of this idiot? That way I'll know to discount any articles he may write.

speciallyblend
03-23-2012, 07:06 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AotpnGgCEAAZqKo.png


now if someone could make this a 100x100 animated avatar. Please im me if you do:) pretty please:)

zeloc
03-23-2012, 07:17 PM
Strong interview with Jesse Benton, much better than earlier in the campaign.

TiagoBarbosa
03-23-2012, 07:18 PM
He has that "i just got owned" face.

FSP-Rebel
03-23-2012, 07:20 PM
Sure hope they're mentioning this in donation appeal emails. This would rejuvenate the softies out there.

BlackTerrel
03-23-2012, 07:21 PM
I liked that. Thanks for posting

kill the banks
03-23-2012, 07:43 PM
ha ha go Jesse

FSP-Rebel
03-23-2012, 07:46 PM
Jesse slapped him like a bitch.

Tyler_Durden
03-23-2012, 07:47 PM
Wow! For all the Benton haters, I'd say Jesse handled that well. He even threw out the "dude" lol

Free Press for the MoneyBomb and the new Ad too. Nice!

economics102
03-23-2012, 07:50 PM
That was priceless. Priceless.

Tyler_Durden
03-23-2012, 07:51 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AotpnGgCEAAZqKo.png

Nice "ohh" face

bluesc
03-23-2012, 07:53 PM
Oh he got smacked down pretty hard.

That's the clueless media we're dealing with, folks.

kathy88
03-23-2012, 07:58 PM
Where are all the Benton critics NOW BITCHES? *crickets*

kathy88
03-23-2012, 07:59 PM
Nice "ohh" face

You mean like this?
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4M7towGbPL-KWPCkzKsfPT1AaOal6cejgim2RyBRnDosyZ11x

bluesc
03-23-2012, 08:01 PM
Where are all the Benton critics NOW BITCHES? *crickets*

angelatc is currently offline.

She only comes here to vent. I guess things are well in her world right now.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
03-23-2012, 08:01 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AotpnGgCEAAZqKo.png


That's hilarious. Dude.

BlackTerrel
03-23-2012, 08:29 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AotpnGgCEAAZqKo.png

He looks like a retarded Jimmy Fallon.

floridasun1983
03-23-2012, 08:45 PM
I'm not much of a Jesse Benton fan, but he handled that one pretty good.

Dublin4Paul
03-23-2012, 09:08 PM
I've been critical of Benton, and still am, but damn, anyone has to hand him that one. +1,000 rep to Benton.

Benjamin Parish
03-23-2012, 09:19 PM
Benton is awesome. I've never understood the negativity against him. Dude has a way with words, and always knows exactly what he is talking about.

Benton has continually demonstrated to be a strong 'plus-positive'.

mello
03-23-2012, 09:27 PM
If we have 50+% of those 5 States that Jesse mentioned how many delegates is that?

Cleaner44
03-23-2012, 09:31 PM
I demand that Jesse post in this thread so I can give +rep!

40oz
03-24-2012, 07:18 AM
now if someone could make this a 100x100 animated avatar. Please im me if you do:) pretty please:)

Cheers!

http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o533/40oz2/jessePwnz.gif

No Free Beer
03-24-2012, 07:44 AM
hahahha

Bruno
03-24-2012, 07:55 AM
Cheers!

http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o533/40oz2/jessePwnz.gif

+ rep and welcome to the forums! :D

Constitutional Paulicy
03-24-2012, 08:18 AM
I created a tube for this.........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qKfxEL0kes

pacelli
03-24-2012, 08:52 AM
"We're HOARDING CASH"

Hahahahaa nice. This while Gangrene Gingrich goes all-in for La.

FSP-Rebel
03-24-2012, 08:57 AM
"We're HOARDING CASH"

Hahahahaa nice. This while Gangrene Gingrich goes all-in for La.
I wonder if this opens the door for him to gracefully bow out in the case that this finale doesn't work for him.

sailingaway
03-24-2012, 09:00 AM
"We're HOARDING CASH"

Hahahahaa nice. This while Gangrene Gingrich goes all-in for La.

Grinch is already in debt beyond his cash on hand.

PaulSoHard
03-24-2012, 09:24 AM
Grinch is already in debt beyond his cash on hand.
Slated for a 3rd place finish in the primary tonight? Dear lord, I hope he finds some living hope to stay in

PolicyReader
03-24-2012, 08:45 PM
Cheers!

http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o533/40oz2/jessePwnz.gif
Love it :)

Also someone please tell me you know what name mr. slappy up there goes by when he's not covering the airwaves with ignorance

bluesc
03-24-2012, 08:49 PM
Cheers!

http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o533/40oz2/jessePwnz.gif

Post of the year.

Warrior_of_Freedom
03-24-2012, 09:54 PM
bromance? What an unprofessional term. I guess it's better than calling us teabaggers on live television.

Carlybee
03-24-2012, 09:57 PM
bromance? What an unprofessional term. I guess it's better than calling us teabaggers on live television.


I'm surprised they haven't come up with some cutesy name like Paulney or RomPaul (ie, Brangelina). Stupid MSM. What passes for journalism these days is embarrassing.

Paulistinian
03-24-2012, 10:01 PM
I'm surprised they haven't come up with some cutesy name like Paulney or RomPaul (ie, Brangelina). Stupid MSM. What passes for journalism these days is embarrassing.Dear god I hope they're not reading this forum or you may have created a monster

Carlybee
03-24-2012, 10:05 PM
Dear god I hope they're not reading this forum or you may have created a monster


haha...I hope not too!

Supernaut
03-24-2012, 10:14 PM
Ive heard that the Ron Paul 2012 campaign has the worst money spent to votes received margin in modern election history. Is there any truth to this? If so, does Jesse Benton deserve any of the blame, or does he get a free pass?

eduardo89
03-24-2012, 10:16 PM
If we have 50+% of those 5 States that Jesse mentioned how many delegates is that?

Iowa: 25 delegates
Nevada: 28 delegates (bound proportionally to straw poll results, but could be unbound at the state convention)
Maine: 21 delegates
Colorado: 33 delegates
Minnesota: 37 delegates
Washington: 40 delegates
Alaska: 24 delegates
North Dakota: 28 delegates

Ron could realistically get at least 50% of the delegates in all those states.

sailingaway
03-24-2012, 10:17 PM
Ive heard that the Ron Paul 2012 campaign has the worst money spent to votes received margin in modern election history. Is there any truth to this? If so, does Jesse Benton deserve any of the blame, or does he get a free pass?

are you trying to pick a fight? Ron Paul gets the least media coverage even when he was in third nationally and there were 8 in the race, per studies. Under those circumstances OF COURSE he has to spend the most.

MikeStanart
03-24-2012, 10:32 PM
Cheers!

http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o533/40oz2/jessePwnz.gif


Hahahahaha + Rep man

Bruno
03-24-2012, 10:38 PM
Ive heard that the Ron Paul 2012 campaign has the worst money spent to votes received margin in modern election history. Is there any truth to this? If so, does Jesse Benton deserve any of the blame, or does he get a free pass?

The uneducated, pathetic, war-mongering, misguided, status-quo supporting voters deserve the blame.

mello
03-24-2012, 10:39 PM
Iowa: 25 delegates
Nevada: 28 delegates (bound proportionally to straw poll results, but could be unbound at the state convention)
Maine: 21 delegates
Colorado: 33 delegates
Minnesota: 37 delegates
Washington: 40 delegates
Alaska: 24 delegates
North Dakota: 28 delegates

Ron could realistically get at least 50% of the delegates in all those states.

So if Ron Paul got 51% of the delegates from those 5 states, then he has 120 delegates.

According the the New York Times their most recent delegate count total for the 34 caucus/primaries:

Romney: 568
Santorum: 273
Gingrich: 135
Paul: 50

Now if Ron has at least 120 delegates from just 5 States, I'm really curious to know what his actual delegate total is.

coffeewithchess
03-24-2012, 10:40 PM
are you trying to pick a fight? Ron Paul gets the least media coverage even when he was in third nationally and there were 8 in the race, per studies. Under those circumstances OF COURSE he has to spend the most.

It goes both ways though. The campaign does have to bare some of the blame as well. Ignoring/turning down media invites, does not help our cause.
If you are about expanding the voter base, but you ignore invites on the biggest "news" show...there's some serious issues somewhere.

cooper56
03-24-2012, 10:47 PM
Not sure if he can win texas. Alot of people will spend money there and gingrich has Rick Perry to back him.

devil21
03-25-2012, 01:51 AM
I just rewatched the vid.....Did Jesse say that the campaign will report a $10 million quarter?? That's really not bad at all. The grassroots hasn't had a moneybomb in a month and a half before today.

LibertyEagle
03-25-2012, 01:58 AM
Ive heard that the Ron Paul 2012 campaign has the worst money spent to votes received margin in modern election history. Is there any truth to this? If so, does Jesse Benton deserve any of the blame, or does he get a free pass?

Benton isn't even the campaign manager. But, it's interesting that you join this forum and one of your first posts is to bash the campaign.

devil21
03-25-2012, 02:08 AM
Ive heard that the Ron Paul 2012 campaign has the worst money spent to votes received margin in modern election history. Is there any truth to this? If so, does Jesse Benton deserve any of the blame, or does he get a free pass?

I've bashed him at times and praised him at times. Like anyone...no one is perfect. The cost per vote sorta disappears when you consider the delegate aspect. Is a delegate vote worth more than a primary vote? HELL YES. In that context, how much does a Santorum primary or caucus vote cost, vs how many delegates he actually turns out? A lot more cost per Santorum vote when/if he's losing delegates to Paul. The stat is misleading because it only considers one set of "votes" while ignoring another set that's arguably much more important.

PolicyReader
03-25-2012, 02:08 AM
It goes both ways though. The campaign does have to bare some of the blame as well. Ignoring/turning down media invites, does not help our cause.
If you are about expanding the voter base, but you ignore invites on the biggest "news" show...there's some serious issues somewhere.
I agree there should be more media interaction (the debate in Oregon makes me :( )
However what media matters, so does when. There are some programs which turning down interviews is actually a good thing because of the way they conduct their interviews and splice their footage and coverage both before and after. I've seen this type of poison spin from both Fox and CNN. At some point using the time of Paul and his surrogates on such coverage becomes a net loss. Not saying that's true of all the turned down invites, I don't have a list of them so I can't really assess something like ratio. But that old adage "any press is good press" really doesn't hold water and that's something to keep in mind as well.

devil21
03-25-2012, 02:17 AM
I agree there should be more media interaction (the debate in Oregon makes me :( )
However what media matters, so does when. There are some programs which turning down interviews is actually a good thing because of the way they conduct their interviews and splice their footage and coverage both before and after. I've seen this type of poison spin from both Fox and CNN. At some point using the time of Paul and his surrogates on such coverage becomes a net loss. Not saying that's true of all the turned down invites, I don't have a list of them so I can't really assess something like ratio. But that old adage "any press is good press" really doesn't hold water and that's something to keep in mind as well.

The Gloria Borger interview was that point when the campaign stopped taking most spontaneous interviews because it became obvious that even a blackout wasn't enough for the media. A full hit job was then in effect. I still think the media shot their last bullet (newsletters) too early since it only galvanized the hardcore supporters into delegate participation.

PolicyReader
03-25-2012, 02:24 AM
The Gloria Borger interview was that point when the campaign stopped taking most spontaneous interviews because it became obvious that even a blackout wasn't enough for the media. A full hit job was then in effect. I still think the media shot their last bullet (newsletters) too early since it only galvanized the hardcore supporters into delegate participation.
Yeah that interview was sick, I did a comparison and they cut in excess of 25% of the total footage they had, in splices throughout the interview and then bracketed it with biased commentary that didn't even acknowledge interviews Paul had given on their own station. I'm not sure where the legal lines for defamation are but at the very least it crossed the practical ones. NOT refusing invites to be subjected to another hit piece would have been a serious failing on the part of the campaign.

RonPaulwillWin
03-25-2012, 02:28 AM
bromance? What an unprofessional term. I guess it's better than calling us teabaggers on live television.

I think it originated on mma forums

McBell
03-25-2012, 02:45 AM
If we have 50+% of those 5 States that Jesse mentioned how many delegates is that?
Don't we just need a plurality and not a majority?

PolicyReader
03-25-2012, 02:54 AM
Don't we just need a plurality and not a majority?
That's how I understand it.

Media narrative "you must have a majority of the straw poll in at least five states"

Reality (AFAIK) "a plurality of delegates from five states is called for"

devil21
03-25-2012, 03:03 AM
Yep, pluraity means just more than the next guy.

socal
03-26-2012, 02:20 PM
Does anyone know the name of this idiot? That way I'll know to discount any articles he may write.
Ryan Lizza.

http://www.salon.com/2011/08/09/ryan_lizza_on_covering_bachmann/singleton/

http://media.salon.com/2011/08/ryan_lizza_on_covering_bachmann-460x307.jpg

sailingaway
03-26-2012, 02:30 PM
Don't we just need a plurality and not a majority?

Yeah, but we are seeing in WA that if we 'only' have plurality the others may join against us, what with them all three being establishment types.

mello
03-26-2012, 02:52 PM
I wish Jesse would have told them how many delegates Ron actually has. He should be calling them out on how the delegate numbers that the mainstream are always wrong. He should really rub it in too with something like:

"Maybe you guys can hire some actually journalists that report accurate information instead of the talking heads that report nothing close to factual information."

PolicyReader
03-26-2012, 03:01 PM
I wish Jesse would have told them how many delegates Ron actually has. He should be calling them out on how the delegate numbers that the mainstream are always wrong. He should really rub it in too with something like:

"Maybe you guys can hire some actually journalists that report accurate information instead of the talking heads that report nothing close to factual information."
Well there aren't really guaranteed delegate totals yet for almost any state. Even some of the "hard" delegates from various states might still possibly alter so it'd be hard for Jesse to call out any specific numbers (that kind of guess work is usually the purview of the MSM)

PeteinLA
03-26-2012, 03:31 PM
Haha, Benton for the smack down. The only flop going on there were the flop sweats from the reporter.

seawolf
03-26-2012, 03:53 PM
I am hyped that the Campaign has a plan to go all out for Texas and California at the end of the Primary Season.

The RP Grassroots should begin working on Money Bombs in April and early May for these Mega Delegate States.

These are the two Mother Lode States and if we do well, could deny Romney the 1144 delegates he needs for a first ballot nomination.

Can you say Brokered Convention.