New Jersey middle school bans hugs

[donnay]

New Jersey middle school bans hugs

CLIFFWOOD, NJ — It seems it is easier to get the cold shoulder than a warm hug at a New Jersey middle school.

A new rule is stirring up controversy at Matawan-Aberdeen Middle School in Cliffwood, NJ — No hugging.

Principal Tyler Blackmore recently made an announcement during school, essentially saying it is a no-hugging zone.

The kids said they risk detention if they hug each other inside the school.

Parent Deirdre Ring agrees with the new policy. "There was probably some inappropriate physical contact going on that led to this decision," Ring said.

Parents said they got automated phone calls from the principal trying to clarify what he told the students, but some are still annoyed they were not notified in the first place.

School Superintendent David Healy issued a statement supporting the principal.

"Mr. Blackmore is responsible for the safety and well-being of over 900 children ranging from 11 to 14 years in age, and to that end he makes several announcements on a daily basis," Healy said. "In an effort to address some incidents of unsuitable physical interactions between students, Mr. Blackmore made an announcement to his students that they were in a 'no hugging school.'"

As for the publicity surrounding the new rule, Healy said, "It is unfortunate that there are those who find purpose and humor in sensationalizing such a routine school-related issue at the expense and inconvenience of our children and our school community."

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I am so glad my children do not attend public schools! Hugs? Just say no to HUGS! :rolleyes:

[ShaneEnochs]

Thank goodness. :rolleyes:

[Root]

What about ass grabbing?

[asurfaholic]

A lot of schools have rules against PDA.. even some high schools. Not unusual...

[donnay]

A lot of schools have rules against PDA.. even some high schools. Not unusual...

That's right, prisons do not allow it either-- got to get the children acclimated to prison life. :rolleyes:

[roho76]

That's right, prisons do not allow it either-- got to get the children acclimated to prison life. :rolleyes:

Weren't they teaching kids about anal sex/fisting as opposed to vaginal sex in schools recently. This also fits into the prison scheme.

[fr33]

I wonder if the ban includes the "christian side hug" :rolleyes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Oj0-splZw

[samforpaul]

Principal may very well saw too many UNWANTED hugs given by guys to attractive females.

[donnay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcmHupBM3TM

[asurfaholic]

Principal may very well saw too many UNWANTED hugs given by guys to attractive females.

Attractive middle schooler?


Anyways, this isn't going to work, because now the kids have to sneak to show their affection, which will heighten the feelings that they are harboring, which you know, might lead to more than just hugs.

In a public school, does the principle have any more right to tell a kid he can't hug, as a mayor telling people in a public park that they can't hold hands? I think not.

[Acala]

But it's okay to punch each other in the face

[VBRonPaulFan]

But it's okay to punch each other in the face

only if you work for the school district

[Anti Federalist]

A lot of schools have rules against PDA.. even some high schools. Not unusual...


That's right, prisons do not allow it either-- got to get the children acclimated to prison life. :rolleyes:

Yup, there you have it.

Just more normalizing the police/prison state.

This would have been unheard of when I was going to school, would have been rightly mocked and ridiculed as ridiculous.

Now, it's the norm.

I shudder to think what "the norm" will be in another 35 years.

[Lishy]

What's with America and crazy High Schools with their "Christian" family values they shove down our throat?

[eduardo89]

Weren't they teaching kids about anal sex/fisting as opposed to vaginal sex in schools recently. This also fits into the prison scheme.

This book is now mandatory reading

http://images.indiebound.com/023/159/9781890159023.jpg

[eduardo89]

What's with America and crazy High Schools with their "Christian" family values they shove down our throat?

How is this in any way representative of Christian values? I didn't know we Christians were against hugging.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

But it's okay to punch each other in the face

In an enviroment where people can't be compassionate and hug... fights are almost guaranteed.

Hugging is good for human psychology, people who don't get hugged enough are more like to be sad and even depressed.

There have been several studies on this.

[heavenlyboy34]

How is this in any way representative of Christian values? I didn't know we Christians were against hugging.
It's just teh mormons. ;) /kidding

[heavenlyboy34]

Yup, there you have it.

Just more normalizing the police/prison state.

This would have been unheard of when I was going to school, would have been rightly mocked and ridiculed as ridiculous.

Now, it's the norm.

I shudder to think what "the norm" will be in another 35 years.
Exactly right! Same here, and it was only ~13 years ago that I was in school. I haz teh sad for teh kidz at teh gov'ment skoolz. :(

[eduardo89]

It's just teh mormons. ;) /kidding

I said Christians, not Mormons ;)

[Lishy]

How is this in any way representative of Christian values? I didn't know we Christians were against hugging.

Why don't you ask them. They're giving detentions for... Hugging?

[flightlesskiwi]

This book is now mandatory reading


WTF??? my weekend is ruined.

also... how long until parents can't hug their own damn kids? this idiocy generally tends to start in the social engineering centers and spreads through society and often enters the home.

[eduardo89]

Why don't you ask them. They're giving detentions for... Hugging?

I don't see any mention of Christianity being the reason for a no-hugging rule...

[eduardo89]

WTF??? my weekend is ruined.

A friend of mine in high school actually had the book. It's interesting to say the least...


also... how long until parents can't hug their own damn kids? this idiocy generally tends to start in the social engineering centers and spreads through society and often enters the home.

Officer Nohugz: "Mrs. Kiwi, step away from the child!"
Kiwi: "But he's my son! All I wanted was to hug him"
Officer Nohugz: "Dispatch we have a situation here, I'm going to need some backup, send in the Bearcat (http://media.northjersey.com/images/012610swatmobile.jpg)"

[flightlesskiwi]

A friend of mine in high school actually had the book. It's interesting to say the least...



Officer Nohugz: "Mrs. Kiwi, step away from the child!"
Kiwi: "But he's my son! All I wanted was to hug him"
Officer Nohugz: "Dispatch we have a situation here, I'm going to need some backup, send in the Bearcat (http://media.northjersey.com/images/012610swatmobile.jpg)"

right... a "friend" of yours.


*****
Officer Nohugz would probably shoot me and then charge my family for the bullet.

the day is getting brighter and brighter.

[eduardo89]

right... a "friend" of yours.

Pffft. As if I'd actually spend money on that book when I could get the information online for free...and in video.


also, Officer Nohugz would probably shoot me and then charge my family for the bullet.

the day is getting brighter and brighter.

He'd shoot you only because he knows he'd get 4 weeks of paid leave to "recover from the psychological trauma" in the Bahamas.

[cstarace]

Makes for an interesting discussion on just how many rights a public school district can restrict. Banning hugs seems ridiculous, but can I'm sure everybody can justify them not wanting 8th graders making out in the hallways, no?

[iGGz]

]][[

[eduardo89]

Um, since when did hugging become 'making out' in hallways?

Hugging is a gateway action. It leads to making out, which leads to sex which leads to teenage pregnancy and AIDS.

[iGGz]

]][[

[Lishy]

Think South Park will jump on this?

[dannno]

Attractive middle schooler?


You weren't attracted to other girls at your middle school??

[dannno]

I'm sure everybody can justify them not wanting 8th graders making out in the hallways, no?

Meh.. as another poster said, if you ban it, then they will just find somewhere private, which will lead to unintended consequences.

If you don't want to watch people make out, then turn your head. If the other kids are watching them make out in a creepy way then they'll probably stop making out in front of everybody. I don't really see what the issue would be.

[heavenlyboy34]

Meh.. as another poster said, if you ban it, then they will just find somewhere private, which will lead to unintended consequences.

If you don't want to watch people make out, then turn your head. If the other kids are watching them make out in a creepy way then they'll probably stop making out in front of everybody. I don't really see what the issue would be.
I agree with danno on this one. I never really cared about people making out in the hallways. It was just part of the scenery to me. /shrugs

[cstarace]

Um, since when did hugging become 'making out' in hallways?
Hugging is a form of PDA, as is making out. Where do you draw the line and how do you justify it?

[AFPVet]

Hugging is a form of PDA, as is making out. Where do you draw the line and how do you justify it?

It would have to be done with an Etch a Sketch.

[eduardo89]

I agree with danno on this one. I never really cared about people making out in the hallways. It was just part of the scenery to me. /shrugs

Poor HB, the making out was always just the scenery to him. He was never part of the scenery.

hugz

[dannno]

Hugging is a form of PDA, as is making out. Where do you draw the line and how do you justify it?

Well I don't know that public school is the best idea in the world, so I would say private school property owners should draw their own lines and not have to justify it to anybody but those who are paying to attend. But assuming public schools must exist and to be reasonable to parents who we are taking their income by force and then mandating that their child attend school, I guess drawing the line at nudity and going underneath the clothing and touching breasts or genitals is probably a reasonable line... You know, if you're at a party and you are making out with a girl on a couch, at what point does the owner of most couches say, "Hey! Can you please not do that on MY couch?!" (yes, somebody said that to me one time..)

[iGGz]

]][[

[cstarace]

Well I don't know that public school is the best idea in the world, so I would say private school property owners should draw their own lines and not have to justify it to anybody but those who are paying to attend. But assuming public schools must exist and to be reasonable to parents who we are taking their income by force and then mandating that their child attend school, I guess drawing the line at nudity and going underneath the clothing and touching breasts or genitals is probably a reasonable line... You know, if you're at a party and you are making out with a girl on a couch, at what point does the owner of most couches say, "Hey! Can you please not do that on MY couch?!" (yes, somebody said that to me one time..)
Right, but who makes that decision? If you give the public school districts the authority to regulate PDA, then you can't really say boo to a goose when they place restrictions on hugging. Once the district is granted the authority to regulate PDA then it's pretty much up to their discretion. I think banning hugging is ridiculous. Even kissing, to an extent, is fine and well (so long as students aren't groping or licking eachother). But it really isn't up to me. I think if you're a parent and the ban on hugs is too fascist for you to handle, move to another district or have your kid attend private school. School choice. Probably a better option anyway.

[iGGz]

]][[

[cstarace]

Yeah, because it's just so simple to move to another district or have your kid attend private school. Just a snap of your fingers.
Except you haven't refuted the first part of my post. What do you suggest?

[Danke]

(so long as students aren't groping or licking eachother). But it really isn't up to me. I think if you're a parent and the ban on hugs is too fascist for you to handle, move to another district or have your kid attend private school. School choice. Probably a better option anyway.

What do you have against licking?


Anyway, just get rid of government schools altogether and give people a real choice.

[dannno]

Right, but who makes that decision? If you give the public school districts the authority to regulate PDA, then you can't really say boo to a goose when they place restrictions on hugging. Once the district is granted the authority to regulate PDA then it's pretty much up to their discretion.

Well that is certainly a better option than letting the Federal Govt. decide what PDA is, but in the mean time we can still ridicule the ones that make bad decisions.




I think banning hugging is ridiculous. Even kissing, to an extent, is fine and well (so long as students aren't groping or licking eachother). But it really isn't up to me. I think if you're a parent and the ban on hugs is too fascist for you to handle, move to another district or have your kid attend private school.

Or what if you are a parent who doesn't allow your 8th grade daughter to date boys and who wants her to go to a school where they are supervised well and aren't allowed to make-out? I mean, I might not personally agree with their parenting decision because girls who want to are going to find a way, then they will probably rebel and have sex or something, whereas most 8th grade girls (I think) are not making out yet even though they are not prohibited from doing so.




School choice. Probably a better option anyway.

That sums it up.

[cstarace]

What do you have against licking?

Nothing at all, I just prefer to do it in private :P

[cstarace]

Well that is certainly a better option than letting the Federal Govt. decide what PDA is, but in the mean time we can still ridicule the ones that make bad decisions.
Agreed.

[iGGz]

[[]]

[otherone]

What about:
Hugs, not Drugs?

Can we do drugs again, at least?

[cstarace]

I suggest a little f'ing common sense. How about instead of banning hugging, they target the specific incidents. If certain students are feeling each other up, why not speak to them directly? Why target everyone? I guess I don't feel like I need to refute anything you've said because I don't think you have said anything of value. Stating that hugging and kissing are the same thing is absurd.
You don't get it. I agree with everything you just said --government is inept at running schools and they're just as bad at making policies like these -- but you're missing the point of my post. Once you grant districts the authority to regulate PDA, they have the authority to regulate hugging, because hugging is a form of PDA. You may think it's ridiculous, but it is what it is.

[iGGz]

[[]]

[awake]

Prisons and penitentiaries are the model of public schools. Although a softer edge, granted, they ultimately aspire to have the same control over human minds.

[eduardo89]

What about:
Hugs, not Drugs?

Can we do drugs again, at least?

NO! MARIJUANA KILLS!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbsBj8NRufw

[Bruno]

They should have a Hug-in and force their hand.

[Voluntary Man]

That's right, prisons do not allow it either-- got to get the children acclimated to prison life. :rolleyes:

...except in the showers.:(

[Danke]

...except in the showers.:(

Speaking from experience?

[Travlyr]

Are these banned too?
Free Hugs For All Of You
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?368443-Free-hugs-for-all-of-you

[asurfaholic]

You weren't attracted to other girls at your middle school??

I was, when i was in middle school... the post i quoted seemed a littttttle more like he was suggesting the administration was jealous.... I doubt they meant this seriously though..

[eduardo89]

Speaking from experience?

No, but I am.

[dannno]

I was, when i was in middle school... the post i quoted seemed a littttttle more like he was suggesting the administration was jealous.... I doubt they meant this seriously though..


Oohhhhhhhh ok, I didn't pick up on that.

[Voluntary Man]

Speaking from experience?

LOL!

Not yet...but if Ron isn't elected, we may all be speaking from experience.

[Danke]

LOL!

Not yet...but if Ron isn't elected, we may all be speaking from experience.

I was accepted. They still have openings.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkkbsy5QHEg

http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/legal-and-law-enforcement/internment-resettlement-specialist.html

c

[Travlyr]

I was accepted. They still have openings.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkkbsy5QHEg

http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/legal-and-law-enforcement/internment-resettlement-specialist.html

c
I like camping.

[Voluntary Man]

I was accepted. They still have openings.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkkbsy5QHEg

http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/legal-and-law-enforcement/internment-resettlement-specialist.html

c

Good luck. Maybe you can smuggle cartons of smokes in for me. I don't smoke, but I hear they're as good as FRNs in the joint.

[eduardo89]

Good luck. Maybe you can smuggle cartons of smokes in for me. I don't smoke, but I hear they're as good as FRNs in the joint.

Reminds me of this:

Milhouse: I can't go to juvie! They use guys like me as currency!
Chief Wiggum: Yeah, they'll pass you around like... like currency, like you said.

[presence]

What happened to

"HUGS NOT DRUGS"

???

This has to violate freedom of speech (expression), freedom of religion, freedom to peacefully assemble, etc. We're talking civil liberties and human rights violations here.

if there were:

"incidents of unsuitable, physical interactions."

then you address the individuals, you let those individuals know what LAWFUL rules they have violated; you don't tell an entire student body that they can't hug one another. Every day another student has a parent diagnosed with cancer, or is dealing with a family divorce, or has a grandparent that died, etc.

hugging is a fundamental human right,

presence

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent

[Voluntary Man]

Reminds me of this:

Milhouse: I can't go to juvie! They use guys like me as currency!
Chief Wiggum: Yeah, they'll pass you around like... like currency, like you said.

I don't know why I feel so guilty about finding that so funny.:D

[eduardo89]

I don't know why I feel so guilty about finding that so funny.:D

I tried to find the video on youtube, but no luck so far.

I laughed so hard at it though, and I've used that phrase myself.

[presence]

I tried to find the video on youtube, but no luck so far.

audio:

http://download.lardlad.com/sounds/season12/error24.mp3

[Anti Federalist]

...except in the showers.:(

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/customavatars/avatar6186_1.gif

Turn about and all...

[eduardo89]

http://download.lardlad.com/sounds/season12/error24.mp3

+rep!!!

[Anti Federalist]

http://drewminh.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn.gif


You weren't attracted to other girls at your middle school??


What about:
Hugs, not Drugs?

Can we do drugs again, at least?


This book is now mandatory reading

http://images.indiebound.com/023/159/9781890159023.jpg

[eduardo89]

AF, did you quote my post because you want more information on the book?

[Anti Federalist]

AF, did you quote my post because you want more information on the book?

I wanted to make sure that it was reposted.

Just in case anybody wanted to do what I did, and send Danke a courtesy copy.

[donnay]

Poor HB, the making out was always just the scenery to him. He was never part of the scenery.

hugz

Reported.

[specsaregood]

AF, did you quote my post because you want more information on the book?
Back in the wild and crazy .com days, we had an office copy of that book. it spent most of its time in the employee lounge, interesting book. I once caught one of my flaming gay coworkers reading it. we had a good laugh about it, it didn't convince him to change teams.

[eduardo89]

Back in the wild and crazy .com days, we had an office copy of that book. it spent most of its time in the employee lounge, interesting book. I once caught one of my flaming gay coworkers reading it. we had a good laugh about it, it didn't convince him to change teams.

HAHAHAHAHA so you've read it as well?

I'm sure your gay co-worker could still use a lot in that book, just with a different orifice.

[specsaregood]

HAHAHAHAHA so you've read it as well?

well I don't know if I would call it reading. as to your other comment, that was uncalled for.

[cstarace]

I'm sure your gay co-worker could still use a lot in that book, just with a different orifice.
I'm not going to report you, I'm not even going to neg rep you. I'm just going to ask you to be a little more respectful. It'd be appreciated.

[eduardo89]

well I don't know if I would call it reading. as to your other comment, that was uncalled for.

uncalled for? you're the one who brought him up. and it wasnt meant in a derogatory way...i'm sure some straight people do it as well.

[specsaregood]

uncalled for? you're the one who brought him up. and it wasnt meant in a derogatory way...i'm sure some straight people do it as well.

uncalled for in the sense that: yuck.

[eduardo89]

uncalled for in the sense that: yuck.

pfft, dont be such a prude.

[Danke]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/customavatars/avatar6186_1.gif

Turn about and all...

Sailor boy trying to make funny with showers...now I think I have seen it all.

[Anti Federalist]

Sailor boy trying to make funny with showers...now I think I have seen it all.

Damn it, I'm glad I didn't send that book out yet.

Got the recipients all mixed up.

Yours is on the way.

http://www.annedarlingphotography.com/images/mapplethorpe-1.jpg

[donnay]

We need to start a campaign...


We want Hugs not Thugs!

[qh4dotcom]

A lot of schools have rules against PDA.. even some high schools. Not unusual...

What is PDA?

[eduardo89]

What is PDA?

Public Displays of Affection.

[Danke]

// nvm Spaniard beat me to it.

[eduardo89]

// nvm Spaniard beat me to it.

we're quick

[cstarace]

What is PDA?
http://www.motivationals.org/demotivational-posters-1/demotivational-poster-38781.jpg

[heavenlyboy34]

we're quick In and out of the bedroom. ;)

[heavenlyboy34]

I'm not going to report you, I'm not even going to neg rep you. I'm just going to ask you to be a little more respectful. It'd be appreciated.Respectfulness is not eduardo's strong suit.

[eduardo89]

Respectfulness is not eduardo's strong suit.

Yup, I'm a douchebag.

[heavenlyboy34]

Yup, I'm a douchebag.
qft.

[specsaregood]

as far as the topic of the thread is concerned, i really don't have any problem with that.

[Anti Federalist]

as far as the topic of the thread is concerned, i really don't have any problem with that.

Bandit FTW.

[specsaregood]

Bandit FTW.
I was looking at made in the usa metal tonka trucks on ebay; and hit a nostalgia trip. The bandit and Burt in general made an impression on me at about the same age as those Tonka trucks.

[Anti Federalist]

I was looking at made in the usa metal tonka trucks on ebay; and hit a nostalgia trip. The bandit and Burt in general made an impression on me at about the same age as those Tonka trucks.

If I ever come into unlimited funds for some reason, Imma putting these into the barn:

http://www.floridatransam.com/pictures/trans%20am%20website/2009/transam%20and%20rig.JPG

[eduardo89]

AF, if I ever hit the proverbial jackpot, I will buy you that truck if you teach me how to drive it ;)


Edit: Or are trucks in the US automatic. You guys love automatic gearboxes. Fucking weird.

[flightlesskiwi]

AF, if I ever hit the proverbial jackpot, I will buy you that truck if you teach me how to drive it ;)


Edit: Or are trucks in the US automatic. You guys love automatic gearboxes. Fucking weird.

automatic on a v-8+ is blasphemy.

boo, europe boy.

[heavenlyboy34]

AF, if I ever hit the proverbial jackpot, I will buy you that truck if you teach me how to drive it ;)


Edit: Or are trucks in the US automatic. You guys love automatic gearboxes. Fucking weird.
Never tried a manual. Wouldn't mind trying it, though. What's so bad about automatic gearboxes? /curious

[eduardo89]

automatic on a v-8+ is blasphemy.

boo, europe boy.

Automatic on any engine, include an I-4 is horrible. We don't get automatics here. You can't get your license if you don't know how to drive a manual.

boo, americans. you and your automatic transmissions suck.

[eduardo89]

Never tried a manual. Wouldn't mind trying it, though. What's so bad about automatic gearboxes? /curious

they are ghey

[donnay]

Breaker 1-9 this here is the Northern Lady---you got a copy?

[cstarace]

What's a dual-clutch automatic? I've been looking into that new Dodge Dart and that's what's standard on the 1.4 Turbo

[heavenlyboy34]

We don't get automatics here. You can't get your license if you don't know how to drive a manual.

boo, americans. you and your automatic transmissions suck.
Collectivist bitch. :p Can't blame all Americans for that. The blame belongs on the regulators and companies that refuse to make manuals.

[eduardo89]

What's a dual-clutch automatic? I've been looking into that new Dodge Dart and that's what's standard on the 1.4 Turbo

It's an automatic transmission. Don't bother with it. It has two clutches which makes shifting quicker and more efficient.

[eduardo89]

Collectivist bitch. :p Can't blame all Americans for that. The blame belongs on the regulators and companies that refuse to make manuals.

We pay $3000 more for an automatic transmission on any model here. It's retarded. But yeah, automatic sucks. Unless you're a woman. Oops, is that collectivist. My bad. Sue me.

[heavenlyboy34]

We pay $3000 more for an automatic transmission on any model here. It's retarded. But yeah, automatic sucks. Unless you're a woman. Oops, is that collectivist. My bad. Sue me. yeah, that was collectivist...but funny too, so you get a pass. :D

[cstarace]

It's an automatic transmission. Don't bother with it. It has two clutches which makes shifting quicker and more efficient.
I don't know... 40 MPG highway sounds pretty nice to me. My current tank of a Dodge has a 4-speed auto mated to a 3.5. Good for about 15 in the city...

[eduardo89]

I don't know... 40 MPH highway sounds pretty nice to me. My current tank of a Dodge has a 4-speed auto mated to a 3.5. Good for about 15 in the city...

the manual audi a3 i had got over 50mph with a 1.8L engine.

[Voluntary Man]

audio:

http://download.lardlad.com/sounds/season12/error24.mp3

my new ringtone!

[specsaregood]

//

[eduardo89]

i had to teach my wife how to drive stick in a foreign country with shitty narrow roads with donkeys and goats jaywalking, in a truck without power steering,breaks or windows. she stalled at an intersection and traffic backed up, she started and stalled again, dark foreigners started honking and yelling unknown words in exotic languages, she started and stalled again, she paniced and begged me to switch seats. I told her to relax and imagine she was back home in jersey. she promptly stuck her arm out the window, gave the growing crowd the bird, screamed "fuck off!!!!", started the truck popped it into gear, peeled out and made it all the way home without a problem. good times.

lol, i hate cars with no power steering. last time i was in mexico i borrow my grandma's car which the maid uses. 4 gear manual gearbox, no power steering, and about 40 horsepower. was like driving the crappiest gold cart ever haha

[flightlesskiwi]

We pay $3000 more for an automatic transmission on any model here. It's retarded. But yeah, automatic sucks. Unless you're a woman. Oops, is that collectivist. My bad. Sue me.

bring it, europe boy.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2011-mustang-talk/125911d1301368701-2011-mustang-gt-cs-owners-speak-out-2011-mustang-gt-cs_black_009.jpg

[eduardo89]

bring it, europe boy.


lol, modern american cars suck.

[Voluntary Man]

We need to start a campaign...


We want Hugs not Thugs!

"Just say NO to thugs!"

[Anti Federalist]

AF, if I ever hit the proverbial jackpot, I will buy you that truck if you teach me how to drive it ;)


Edit: Or are trucks in the US automatic. You guys love automatic gearboxes. Fucking weird.

I already know how to.

Learned to drive a semi on a screaming Jimmy like this:

http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/ed_grant/2004/july/21.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

I don't know... 40 MPG highway sounds pretty nice to me. My current tank of a Dodge has a 4-speed auto mated to a 3.5. Good for about 15 in the city...

I want one of the UK Ford's turbo diesel Focus sedans that get 87 MPG.

Oh, that's right, I can't.

Prohibited.

[eduardo89]

I want one of the UK Ford's turbo diesel Focus sedans that get 87 MPG.

Oh, that's right, I can't.

Prohibited.

Send me the money and I'll buy you one and ship it over ;)

[Anti Federalist]

Never tried a manual. Wouldn't mind trying it, though. What's so bad about automatic gearboxes? /curious

You are missing a whole world of driving.

[specsaregood]

I want one of the UK Ford's turbo diesel Focus sedans that get 87 MPG.
Oh, that's right, I can't.
Prohibited.

you know what? we need Rand to say just that in one of the soon to be viral committee hearings.

[Anti Federalist]

Send me the money and I'll buy you one and ship it over ;)

Seriously, I couldn't even do that.

You could get it here, but you'd never get a valid COO and wouldn't be able to register, inspect or drive it anywhere, except in loops out in the woods out back.

That makes me have teh mad.

[eduardo89]

Seriously, I couldn't even do that.

You could get it here, but you'd never get a valid COO and wouldn't be able to register, inspect or drive it anywhere, except in loops out in the woods out back.

That makes me have teh mad.

I'm going to buy one and take pictures of myself with it. Post them here. And have you report my posts.

[Anti Federalist]

you know what? we need Rand to say just that in one of the soon to be viral committee hearings.

That would be great if he did.

Too bad the EPA director doesn't have to report to Congress on a mandatory basis.

Fucking Nixon again.

What GOP "compromise" presidents can do to you.

[Anti Federalist]

I'm going to buy one and take pictures of myself with it. Post them here. And have you report my posts.

What makes me have teh angry even more, is when I think about how we could be building those cars right here.

A nicely equipped, four door sedan, in the $20 to $25 k range that gets 80 to 90 MPG.

http://autogreenmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/newfordfocus-15opt.jpg


http://criartti.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/fu.gif


http://radiogreenearth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/epa-logo.gif
http://www.flight800.org/ntsb_logo.gif

[specsaregood]

That would be great if he did.
Too bad the EPA director doesn't have to report to Congress on a mandatory basis.
Fucking Nixon again.
What GOP "compromise" presidents can do to you.

still, if he was aware of it; i bet he could fit it in somewhere. seems right up his anti-lowflow alley.

[Anti Federalist]

still, if he was aware of it; i bet he could fit it in somewhere. seems right up his anti-lowflow alley.

Ah yes the "green" toilets that cannot flush a "brown" turd.

Maybe somebody in KY could contact him on this.

[Anti Federalist]

Bump

[heavenlyboy34]

*hugs AF* :D

[UMULAS]

Great Barney told us to hug everyone and now there telling me not to? WTF!

[heavenlyboy34]

Great Barney told us to hug everyone and now there telling me not to? WTF!+a bunch sending mixed messages=fail. :(

[Kluge]

What makes me have teh angry even more, is when I think about how we could be building those cars right here.

A nicely equipped, four door sedan, in the $20 to $25 k range that gets 80 to 90 MPG.

http://autogreenmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/newfordfocus-15opt.jpg


http://criartti.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/fu.gif


http://radiogreenearth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/epa-logo.gif
http://www.flight800.org/ntsb_logo.gif

Here's what ya do:

Get Eduardo to ship one over to you. When it arrives, buy a Toyota Prius, remove all badges from Prius and Ford, switch badges. Then switch VIN plates and license plates from Prius to the Ford. No cop will ever be able to tell the difference.

Of course now you've got a useless Prius sitting in your yard--but maybe you could rig it up to be a generator of sorts. Or you could sell off the parts.

I'm a solutions kind of person. You're welcome.

[Anti Federalist]

Here's what ya do:

Get Eduardo to ship one over to you. When it arrives, buy a Toyota Prius, remove all badges from Prius and Ford, switch badges. Then switch VIN plates and license plates from Prius to the Ford. No cop will ever be able to tell the difference.

Of course now you've got a useless Prius sitting in your yard--but maybe you could rig it up to be a generator of sorts. Or you could sell off the parts.

I'm a solutions kind of person. You're welcome.

So now my $22,000 car costs about $70,000.

Thank you?

[Kluge]

So now my $22,000 car costs about $70,000.

Thank you?

After you sell off the Prius, piece by piece, it should only run ya about $50,000, and isn't the extra $28k worth it to drive around with that "FU US gov't!" attitude? (Not that you don't already, but this adds another layer of "satisfaction.")

Really fantastic ideas like mine aren't always cheap, ya know. :D

[specsaregood]

After you sell off the Prius, piece by piece, it should only run ya about $50,000

I'm not sure he is licensed and trained to handle the hazardous materials. Probably gonna need an OSHA or EPA inspection, might involve fines. 50,000 sounds low.

[Kluge]

I'm not sure he is licensed and trained to handle the hazardous materials. Probably gonna need an OSHA or EPA inspection, might involve fines. 50,000 sounds low.

Pfft. As if OSHA/EPA are going to be involved in this nefarious scheme of mine. He'll sell to chop shops or something.

[eduardo89]

Only problem is the VIN is stamped all over the car nowadays. It's not just in the windshield.

[osan]

Hugging is a form of PDA, as is making out. Where do you draw the line and how do you justify it?

This is one brand of thinking that has strongly contributed to the current state of general dementia in this nation. It smacks of elements such as "zero tolerance", which is newspeak for "zero thinking" and "zero accountability". When I was in school kids hugged each other all the time and on the whole there were no problems. For one thing, most of the girls had enough sense of self respect not to allow a guy to casually grab her ass or what have you. In fact, some of the girls with whom I was familiar may well have decked anyone putting their hands on them uninvited. Add to that the fact that lots of the guys would have had something to say about such a breach of a young lady's space, as it were. Generally speaking, most guys would not have dared such things and the ones who did may have gotten their asses beaten, either by the girl, the guys, or their parents when the got home.

Add to all that the fact that even though most school administrators were already trained to the tao of being assholes, they still exercised personal judgment and avoided these one-size-fits-all, zero tolerance decrees. They took things on a case by case basis and did not go all native on the student body when some kid behaved like an imbecile. That is one of the things that has been relegated to our dusty past in favor of the current childishness that further separates everyone involved from the sense of one's individual rights in favor of an emphasis of tightly regimented authoritarianism beating almost paradoxically against the environment of no personal discipline for students that seems to lead to a state of perpetually suspended development, denying many any real chance at actual adulthood.

Where to draw a line is partly a function of real adults taking in a case of behavior and deciding whether there is a problem. A mutually acceptable/desired hug should merit no attention from anyone. If it progresses into open rutting behavior in the middle of the hallway, then the adult in charge takes appropriate action. This is called responsible use of intelligence and the willingness to stand tall in the wake of one's decisions and not quiver and quake like a pussy when someone challenges a choice.

The nation is become a mass of cowards and imbeciles one thin slice at a time.

[Kluge]

Only problem is the VIN is stamped all over the car nowadays. It's not just in the windshield.

True. But chop shops still thrive somehow.

I'm sure AF has some seedy friends that can help him out. :)

[Anti Federalist]

True. But chop shops still thrive somehow.

I'm sure AF has some seedy friends that can help him out. :)

The seediest people I know, are all here.

;)

[Kluge]

The seediest people I know, are all here.

;)

If you say so, sailor. :p

[eduardo89]

PDA VIGILANTE!

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m13ijvEnDL1qkhp29o1_400.gif

[fr33]

With rules like this one (banning hugs) we may need a US branch of the Kindness Offensive (http://thekindnessoffensive.com/).

[heavenlyboy34]

The seediest people I know, are all here.

;)
I'll take that as a compliment. :D :cool: