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Marenco
03-22-2012, 11:00 PM
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is moving to relax restrictions on how counterterrorism analysts may retrieve, store and search information about Americans gathered by government agencies for purposes other than national security threats.
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Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Thursday signed new guidelines for the National Counterterrorism Center, which was created in 2004 to foster intelligence sharing and serve as a terrorism threat clearinghouse.

The guidelines will lengthen to five years — from 180 days — the amount of time the center can retain private information about Americans when there is no suspicion that they are tied to terrorism, intelligence officials said. The guidelines are also expected to result in the center making more copies of entire databases and “data mining them” using complex algorithms to search for patterns that could indicate a threat.

For More: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/23/us/politics/us-moves-to-relax-some-restrictions-for-counterterrorism-analysis.html?_r=1

Anti Federalist
03-23-2012, 12:15 AM
Gotta have something for the Ministry of Truth to do.

This stuff never goes away, it never stops, you block it with justifiable political outrage, and the system just laterals on you, running for a touchdown while you're 50 yards downfield wondering what the fuck just happened, the system has unlimited time and money at its disposal, and in thirty years, what was considered unthinkable Big Brother invasions of privacy will be considered the norm.

Just like what is happening now, would have been outrageous to even suggest in 1982.

Jesus, I'm so tired...



The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/wp-content/gallery/20-04/ff_nsadatacenter_f.jpg

Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.

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But “this is more than just a data center,” says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handle—financial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communications—will be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: “Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.”

Anti Federalist
03-23-2012, 12:37 AM
Example of the "mission creep".

Project ECHELON was the forerunner of this, started in 1986 IIRC.

Part of ECHELON's system division was that no country involved in the project was "technically" spying on itself.

We'd spy on the Brits, they'd spy on the Aussies, they'd spy on us, and the information passed around in a spook circle jerk, because you see, there were these quaint notions and laws that prohibited a nation's spy services from spying on their own citizens.

So, technically, it was never NSA spying on us.

How droll.

Now, with the Ministry of Truth, it seems that there just isn't any pretext whatsoever anymore.

US citizen, foreign citizen, anybody on planet earth...the USG has now pretty much claimed the right to read and monitor and analyze everything you do, 24/7, forever.

Once the cashless economy has become fully operational, like it is soon to be in Sweden, that'll be it, you won't be able to breathe without permission.

FindLiberty
03-23-2012, 07:58 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/IAO-logo.png/250px-IAO-logo.png It's back.... (it never slept)

Anti Federalist
03-23-2012, 11:51 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/IAO-logo.png/250px-IAO-logo.png It's back.... (it never slept)

Never slept, never went away.

Aratus
03-23-2012, 12:08 PM
thinking back 2 that there humble private who got leaped on after using a "lady gaga"
cd~rom disque to traipse off with much 'intel' that went toooo wikileaks. methinks
more people can gain access if they relax the "regs" that have been in place.

flightlesskiwi
03-23-2012, 12:15 PM
Once the cashless economy has become fully operational, like it is soon to be in Sweden, that'll be it, you won't be able to breathe without permission.

been in the works for awhile.

low hanging fruit is ripe for the picking.

Anti Federalist
03-23-2012, 12:19 PM
been in the works for awhile.

low hanging fruit is ripe for the picking.

This thread should have a 100,000 views.

This is where the rubber meets the road.

This is the surveillance state.

You will never be free if you live every second of your life self censoring your words and deeds because you know Big Brother is in the background watching you.

You will comply, whether you realize you are doing it or not.


Behind Winston's back the voice from the telescreen was still babbling away about pig-iron and the overfulfilment of the Ninth Three-Year Plan. The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live -- did live, from habit that became instinct -- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard and every movement scrutinized.

phill4paul
03-23-2012, 12:29 PM
SOME people are aware. That is why gun sales are through the roof. Whether there are enough to make a difference remains to be seen. We are in the end game were the government has passed the 'line in the sand.' As you have said it doesn't matter what we as citizens do. Once upon a time when there was enough condemnation they stepped back. Then it became a game of pushing, condemnation, step back, push again in 6 months. Now it is just we are gonna do what the fuck we want. STFU or we got a got a 24 sq. foot room for ya that you paid to build.

flightlesskiwi
03-23-2012, 12:35 PM
this, sadly, is the searing coal of a thought that has been scorched in my brain.

they have tested this through our foreign policy and use of the .mil throughout the globe. i fully expect for the domestic policy to be an exact mirror very, very soon (we're pretty much already there).


SOME people are aware. That is why gun sales are through the roof. Whether there are enough to make a difference remains to be seen. We are in the end game were the government has passed the 'line in the sand.' As you have said it doesn't matter what we as citizens do. Once upon a time when there was enough condemnation they stepped back. Then it became a game of pushing, condemnation, step back, push again in 6 months. Now it is just we are gonna do what the fuck we want. STFU or we got a got a 24 sq. foot room for ya that you paid to build.

Anti Federalist
03-23-2012, 12:44 PM
SOME people are aware. That is why gun sales are through the roof. Whether there are enough to make a difference remains to be seen. We are in the end game were the government has passed the 'line in the sand.' As you have said it doesn't matter what we as citizens do. Once upon a time when there was enough condemnation they stepped back. Then it became a game of pushing, condemnation, step back, push again in 6 months. Now it is just we are gonna do what the fuck we want. STFU or we got a got a 24 sq. foot room for ya that you paid to build.

Yes, some are, and I'm glad to have 'em, even the ones that are only partially aware.

As we go over the cliff, beggars can't be choosers.

You are exactly right, there is not even any pretense any more of following the law, 4th Amendment protections or anything else.

I concur, we are in "end game".

NewRightLibertarian
03-23-2012, 12:49 PM
Yes, some are, and I'm glad to have 'em, even the ones that are only partially aware.

As we go over the cliff, beggars can't be choosers.

You are exactly right, there is not even any pretense any more of following the law, 4th Amendment protections or anything else.

I concur, we are in "end game".

FEMA camps coming soon after the next terrorist attack which will likely be blamed on us

Agorism
03-23-2012, 08:20 PM
King Obama Rules Government Shall Keep Info on Innocent Americans for 5 years

link (http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2012/03/23/king-obama-rules-government-shall-keep-info-on-innocent-americans-for-5-years/)


The Washington Post reports that Barack Obama has approved a plan for the U.S. Government to collect information about Americans who are not terrorists and who have no connection to terrorism, then keep it for 10 times longer than under George W. Bush. This is all without a warrant specifying a reasonable suspicion. Which is the requirement of the Constitution and all. Which is the supreme law of the land and all.

Democrats who bridled at the autocratic l’etat-c’est-moi behavior of the Petulant Prince George ought to stop referring to our dear leader as “President Obama.” The term that better fits his behavior is King Barack the First.

fr33
03-23-2012, 08:29 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2w5sfaw.gif

bluesc
03-23-2012, 08:31 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2w5sfaw.gif

Seems legit. The reptilians have infiltrated the Democratic party.

presence
03-23-2012, 08:40 PM
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

March 15, 2012

The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)


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In short... NSA has a computer facility capable of recording EVERYTHING, all the time, everywhere, in any medium (including text to speech of all telephone conversations) at the same time, and then analysing it ALL in real time while hacking 256 bit encryption and storing THE ENTIRE FEED forever.


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I'm not shitting you:




everybody with communication is a target
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the largest, most covert, and potentially most intrusive intelligence agency ever created.
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listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes.
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500 quintillion (500,000,000,000,000,000,000) pages of text.
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secret electronic monitoring rooms in major US telecom facilities.
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codenamed Stellar Wind
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“The Narus device allows you to take it all
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automate the process of requesting a warrant and automate approval
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turnkey totalitarian state
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every word is illuminated.
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how do you manage 20 terabytes of intercept a minute?” he says. “The way we proposed was to distinguish between things you want and things you don’t want.” Instead, he adds, “they’re storing everything they gather.”


For those pondering the storage capacity "500 quintillion pages of text", it has been estimated there are a mere "7 quintillion (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_grains_of_sand_are_there_in_the_world)" grains of sand in the whole world.

This.... IMHO is the 2012 phenomenon we have all been waiting for; the end of the world as we knew it:


We have spawned a new

DIGITAL,
omniscient,
omnipotent,
omnipresent
DEITY

Whether we like it or not.

Anti Federalist
03-23-2012, 08:45 PM
bumpworthy

presence
03-23-2012, 09:09 PM
bumpworthy

THEY KNOW YOU JUST BUMPED THIS, the computers are calculating as we speak whether you represent a threat worthy of being eliminated by automated drone attack.

Anti Federalist
03-23-2012, 09:55 PM
THEY KNOW YOU JUST BUMPED THIS, the computers are calculating as we speak whether you represent a threat worthy of being eliminated by automated drone attack.

Egads, I've reported myself...

Anti Federalist
03-24-2012, 02:07 PM
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presence
03-07-2013, 05:37 PM
#standwithrand

Anti Federalist
08-01-2013, 07:08 PM
Told ya so bump.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vpE6uMJ37dk/UOScrne47aI/AAAAAAAAEL4/Ki-4IWO-SoY/s1600/ron-paul.gif

Anti Federalist
01-12-2014, 05:51 PM
Circle Jerk Bump