UPDATED POST BY BRENT STAFFORD Re St Charles Caucus

[sailingaway]

from daily paul


This is Brent Stafford from Missouri - Updated

This is Brent Stafford. I wanted to let everyone know I am out of jail and am just now starting to read some of the posts about what happened today.

I am actually in my car right now, so I will post more complete details when I get to someplace where I can take more time.

First of all, thank you to everyone who was concerned and calling the police station. Apparently they were getting flooded with calls.

I was trying to reconvene the meeting in the gymnasium, according to the rules, and was told I have the leave the gym along with everyone else or I would be trespassing. I went outside and tried to let everyone know we were going to try to reconvene. Some people we trying to go to a nearby park to do so, but the rules are clear the the caucus may only be held in the location printed in the Call to Caucus printed in a newspaper 15 days prior. The ONLY place we could reconvene was at the high school.

I stood on a chair to address the crowd to let them know we were going to reconvene and what we needed to do. At that point I was approached by told I was under arrest.

More to come...

--------------- Update

Okay, I have a minute, and a beer! Here is the saga.

There are three main culprits to today fiasco. Eugene Dokes - St. Charles County Republican Committee Chairman, Bryan Spencer - Chairman of the Caucus Committee for the St. Charles County GOP (he organized the caucus), and Matt Ehlen - The guy the installed as Chairman and who ended the meeting before conducting any business.

I approached Bryan Spencer several times, prior to the commencement of the caucus, to point out where things that were being planned violated the rules. He said, "We are going to do it this way, challenge it if you want." He is the one that was trying to rig the process to select delegates proportionally based on who was in attendance. They conducted a straw poll as people were checked in, in violation of State GOP rules.

The meeting was supposed to begin at 10:00am. There were so many people still in line that by the time the meeting was ready to start it was just after 11:00am.

Eugene Dokes started the meeting by immediately declaring there would be no video or audio recording allowed, and that if anyone refused to stop, they would be removed by police. The entire room of what has been reported as over 2,500 people began booing and demanding that recording be allowed. It was not just Ron Paul people.

Eugene Dokes then refused to commence the meeting until everyone stopped recording. I made multiple attempts to make a point of order to address the situation, but he refused to acknowledge me. He then left the podium and called the police.

There were St. Peters Police, St. Charles Police, St. Charles County Sheriffs, and Missouri Highway Patrol that eventually came into the gymnasium and through threat of arrest made everyone turn off their cameras. Of course many did not.

Eugene Dokes then started to convene the meeting a second time.

Let me digress a moment. We had prepared very well ahead of time. I won't get into all of the details, but the Mitt Romney people agreed to support me for Chairman. This was an incredible vote of confidence in my ability to chair and to convene a fair process. I had also hire the President of the Missouri Association of Parliamentarians who I intended to appoint for that role. I never got that chance.

Eugene Dokes appoint the Creditial Committee, Rules Committee, and Parliamentarian. These are all appointments made by the elected Chairman, not the temporary Chair which is what Eugene Dokes was acting as. The body loudly booed and started making all kinds of points of order and other declarations of disgust at the blatant disregard for the proper process.

He then opened the floor for nominations. I immediately started nominating myself multiple times. He recognized a woman, who was obviously preselected, who nominated Matt Ehlen. At that point about 2,000 people started chanting my name to be appointed. Eugene Dokes ignored that and called a hasty voice vote and declared the one nominee, Matt Ehlen, as the Chair.

Hundreds of people started calling for Division of the vote. Eugene Dokes ignored them all.

Matt Ehlen took the podium and tried to regain order. After anout 20 seconds he declared that St. Charles County would not send any delegates to the CD and State Conventions. He quickly found motions to adjourn and closed the meeting.

At that point I went to grab the parliamentarian I had hired. She had not been allowed inside, because of an arbitrary rule Bryan Spencer made up, but I had checked in with her by sticking my head through the door of and on earlier. I told her to come with me and I headed to the podium. I asked her how to reconvene and since no business had been conducted according to the Call to Convention, we had every right to reconvene.

I took the microphone and announced that people should not leave and that we would reconvene the meeting. Eugene Dokes came up and unplugged the microphone. At that point the police began ordering people out of the gymnasium.

At that point I went outside to try to reconvene the caucus, according to the rules. A number of people were going to go to another location to reconvene. I had to stop those that had not left and explained that we were required to convene at the location published 15 days prior in the newspaper or it would be invalid.

I then found where the biggest crowd had gathered and began to address the crowd. Everyone got quiet to hear me. There were 300-400 people there. I explained very quickly that we needed to begin collecting a roster, as required, and what that meant. I was immediately approached by 4 or 5 police of unknown jurisdictions who made me step down from the chair and put me into handcuffs.

When I asked what I was being arrested for, or if I was being arrested, I was told they would tell me later. Eventually I was booked for trespassing and released.

The actions of Eugene Doke, Bryan Spence, and Matt Ehlen were the direct cause of the event getting out of control. They have tried to shift the blame, but it is all on them. If they had conducted the meeting according to Robert's Rules and the proper order of the agenda, none of this would have happened.

Brent Stafford added this on daily paul as a 'second update' to his post:


---------------- Update #2

I forgot to mention, I am on the St. Charles GOP Central Committee, the one Eugene Dokes is Chairman of, as well as being Chair, Vice-Chair, and Secretary of three different GOP Legislative Committees.

I need to remember to tell the media that. It was so crazy today I just wanted to tell what happened and forgot to mention it.

http://www.dailypaul.com/221346/this-is-brent-stafford-from-missouri?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[MelissaWV]

Very good to get it all down, names and locations and a timeline, so early on. I hope there is at least clear audio (someone could have been recording the floor, pretending their camera was off, and gotten good audio).

[steph3n]

wow what a mess!

[Bama Boy]

Oh boy, those guys are going to catch hell from the crazies.

[kathy88]

What a succinct account of goings on. This makes it very clear that rules were violated from the very beginning by Eugene as temp chair. Nice.

[wgadget]

Tweeted.

[floridasun1983]

This can't stand.

[JonGod]

There should be at least some video of this, no? According to the reports, recording was going on until the meeting was illegally adjourned.

[sailingaway]

Very good to get it all down, names and locations and a timeline, so early on. I hope there is at least clear audio (someone could have been recording the floor, pretending their camera was off, and gotten good audio).

there is tons of video. It is uploading as we speak.

[Cowlesy]

Paging Ben Swann and Andrew Napolitano (he still has connections at Fox I am sure).

[trey4sports]

I will do everything in my power to make sure Eugene's future with the party is bleak.

[SCOTUSman]

And this forum is so obsessed staying with the GOP.

[dntrpltt]

there is tons of video. It is uploading as we speak.

Waiting for Tubes!

[kathy88]

I will do everything in my power to make sure Eugene's future with the party is bleak.

He's running for state office, not congress as someone mentioned. Who is his competition? If he's anyone we can get behind I think a little money bomb may be in order.

[Tyler_Durden]

Eugene Dokes:

Facebook: hxxp://www.facebook.com/docdokes?sk=info
Twitter: hxxp://twitter.com/#!/eugenedokes
Campaign Website (Contact Information): hxxp://edokes.com/contact/

Eugene has enacted SOPA on his Facebook. Lol

[Tyler_Durden]

He's running for state office, not congress as someone mentioned. Who is his competition? If he's anyone we can get behind I think a little money bomb may be in order.

I wished him luck in his run for District 70 on his FB page and said the Status Quo will be glad to have someone who obeys orders and fears transparency. I told him his opponent will likely see a surge in support.

5 min later, post deleted and I'm blocked. Haha.

[FSP-Rebel]

I wished him luck in his run for District 70 on his FB page and said the Status Quo will be glad to have someone who obeys orders and fears transparency. I told him his opponent will likely see a surge in support.

5 min later, post deleted and I'm blocked. Haha.
Be right back, gonna join the club.

I reported his wall posts as spam, couldn't post.

[trey4sports]

I wished him luck in his run for District 70 on his FB page and said the Status Quo will be glad to have someone who obeys orders and fears transparency. I told him his opponent will likely see a surge in support.

5 min later, post deleted and I'm blocked. Haha.


Be right back, gonna join the club.


Some serious blowback is comin' his way.

Only problem is i don't know who he is running against. Hopefully we can field someone who is better though.

[sailingaway]

We can come out of this smelling like a rose... UNLESS we give him ammunition to say 'those crazy paulbots' attacked him unreasonably. So, let's not give him an excuse.

[kathy88]

I wished him luck in his run for District 70 on his FB page and said the Status Quo will be glad to have someone who obeys orders and fears transparency. I told him his opponent will likely see a surge in support.

5 min later, post deleted and I'm blocked. Haha.

I told him I was sorry he ruined his political career today and was blocked also :)

[kathy88]

We can come out of this smelling like a rose... UNLESS we give him ammunition to say 'those crazy paulbots' attacked him unreasonably. So, let's not give him an excuse.

It's probably too late to get someone to run against him? Filing deadlines?

[sailingaway]

It's probably too late to get someone to run against him? Filing deadlines?

Don't actually know.

BRENT should run against him.....:p

[NoOneButPaul]

And this forum is so obsessed staying with the GOP.

This is all about the battle to take back what is rightfully ours.

We have to kick the NeoCons and Diet-Democrats out, these are the front lines and i'm supremely proud of everything they're doing.

This type of passion would be wasted in a 3rd party because there's no way to have any kind of real influence, they've been fixed out of the equation.

If we took back the GOP we could change that too... we could abolish all parties or make 3rd parties relevant. We could do anything we want with the power of the GOP.

These are the battlegrounds, we must continue to win, we must take back the GOP, and we must restore freedom to this country!

[morely webb]

Write in Brent Stafford for the District 70 office. Defeat Eugene Dokes.

[kathy88]

Don't actually know.

BRENT should run against him.....:p

Of COURSE he should!!!!!

[kathy88]

Write in Brent Stafford for the District 70 office. Defeat Eugene Dokes.

How sweet would that be. Write in campaign FTW.

[FSP-Rebel]

BRENT should run against him.....:p
http://i43.tinypic.com/n0br.png

[JonGod]

there is tons of video. It is uploading as we speak.
http://imgur.com/tCp90.gif

[PolicyReader]

Don't actually know.

BRENT should run against him.....:p
He should certainly run for something, and even if filing deadlines are past he should declare now (or maybe not right now, but soon when things are a bit more resolved), strike while the iron is hot.

[Oscar DeGrouch]

You're an inspiration and a patriot. We are obviously not going to get any fair treatment from either the press or the police, which leaves us. God bless.

[Carson]

Oh boy, those guys are going to catch hell from the crazies.

And we all thought manufacturing was dead!

[kill the banks]

impressive courage

[Drex]

THIS IS ALL DISGUSTING! We live in a communist state this is all horsesh!t. DEMOCRACY MY ASS! This stuff makes me fight harder

[ClydeCoulter]

Those who fall in the fight will see the springing forth of liberty from ground before they land with smiles of contentment and fullfilment on their face. (just saying)

[kpitcher]

Laugh, Dokes FB lists his favorite movie as 'the conspirator'. How... fitting.

[Highstreet]

http://www.youtube.com/embed/PRVi1m9BnXI

not sure why it won't embed

[PolicyReader]

Laugh, Dokes FB lists his favorite movie as 'the conspirator'. How... fitting.
Well, looks like it's time we help make him infamous no? ;)

[Tyler_Durden]

Laugh, Dokes FB lists his favorite movie as 'the conspirator'. How... fitting.


Well, looks like it's time we help make him infamous no? ;)

Infamous:
http://www.memecreator.com/static/images/memes/57130.jpg

I'm told his Facebook page has been deleted. Is this true? (I'm blocked)

[FSP-Rebel]

Please deny this degenerate his space on this. Still waiting on the help these days..

[FSP-Rebel]

http://www.youtube.com/embed/PRVi1m9BnXI

not sure why it won't embedhttp://http://www.youtube.com/embed/PRVi1m9BnXI
Wish i could do more than that, yo. Don't make me

[Suzu]

outdated post / deleted

[socal]

http://www.youtube.com/embed/PRVi1m9BnXI

not sure why it won't embed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRVi1m9BnXI

[IterTemporis]

http://http://www.youtube.com/embed/PRVi1m9BnXI
Wish i could do more than that, yo. Don't make me


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRVi1m9BnXI

[Highstreet]

Entire event indoors:


http://www.youtube.com/embed/UK9gXRDbHfU

http://www.youtube.com/embed/97JVX1CtVfo

http://www.youtube.com/embed/IzWAtWHzSYE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK9gXRDbHfU&context=C4645d8eADvjVQa1PpcFNfhKbi0PSViRq5tZP3Rs2g kxE0kGJwh7Y=


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97JVX1CtVfo&context=C4c7f529ADvjVQa1PpcFNfhKbi0PSVibDbR5MurF58 yuQn_B2eWpw=


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzWAtWHzSYE&context=C49167d1ADvjVQa1PpcFNfhKbi0PSViVyuMwU8ppIb I4faBnrlL7g=

[kpitcher]

Infamous:


I'm told his Facebook page has been deleted. Is this true? (I'm blocked)

No, it's filling up fast with a lot of very upset people comments.



Eugene Dokes
Truth of our Caucus today. Thanks
Caucuses Gone Wild: Chaos in Missouri
www.breitbart.com
st. charles, missouri, ron paul, rick santorum, mitt romney, republicans, conservatives, delegates, election
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Chris Grahn-Howard I hope you are ok.
about an hour ago · Like · 1
Eugene Dokes I'm Fine Chris... Thanks!
about an hour ago · Like
Chris Grahn-Howard Welcome. Call if you want. Let me know how I can help.
about an hour ago · Like · 1
Jonathan Compton Wow.
about an hour ago · Like
Kathie Conway Good for you, Doug!
about an hour ago · Like
Jonathan Compton So...now what?
about an hour ago · Like
Tiffanie Wings Crazy!!
about an hour ago · Like · 1
Drew Stonebraker http://lorienjohnson.com/2012/03/breaking-election-fraud-in-st-charles-co-missouri-caucus/
41 minutes ago · Like · 3
Dana Stepp http://lorienjohnson.com/2012/03/breaking-election-fraud-in-st-charles-co-missouri-caucus/
39 minutes ago · Like · 9
Dana Stepp The real truth!!! You are a fraud!!"
37 minutes ago · Like · 11
David Murphy Well Frothy's guys couldn't face a loss so they just shut it down because they are LOSERS!
31 minutes ago · Like · 7
Dana Stepp Well the way they threw their pissy party's in Franklin Co. Where Paul spanked his arse...I'd believe it.
28 minutes ago · Like · 8
Dana Stepp BOO-YAH!!!!
28 minutes ago · Like · 3
Kenton Merrill This kinda thing happened all over the state today. For the most part, not as extreme, but the corruption is very much evident. The Republican Establishment is terrified of Dr. Paul.
26 minutes ago · Like · 9
Carter Ballmann Mr.Dokes, we the people will ensure that you have a primary challenger to defeat you and your corrupt ways!!!
24 minutes ago · Like · 11
David Murphy They are! Boone Co and Greene Co all went to Ron Paul however. They just knew they had to shut out St Charles because of the numbers of Ron Paul people there, we had it in the bag and they knew they were going to lose the state...and they still will!
23 minutes ago · Like · 3
Dana Stepp Which further lets me know how deep the corruption is when they're terrified of a 76yr old white man with an Impenitrable Army of Americans who are sick of this shit!!!!! SHAME ON YOU EUGENE DOKES!!!
23 minutes ago · Like · 8
Carter Ballmann I think Joe Wetter, Bryce Steinhoff, or Brent Stafford would be great challengers. Real patriots!!
22 minutes ago · Like · 4
Ronnie Gaston Mr Dokes! You are a disgrace to the party and the reason there is so much apathy today.
22 minutes ago · Like · 10
Kenton Merrill Our local county chairmen wasn't much better. He shut us out.
21 minutes ago · Like · 1
Jerry Howe God Damn you to Hell Fires Eugene! You are one lousy stinkin piece of cow dung. All you had to do is follow the rules and your lousy corrupted ass just couldn't make that happen huh. LOSER.....
18 minutes ago · Like · 5
David Murphy Hey Jackass, that was a pretty stupid thing to do being that you are running for an elected office and just pissed off the majority of the people there...you might as well start sending out applications for another career because you aren't getting elected this year!
18 minutes ago · Like · 4
Dana Stepp Its on!
13 minutes ago · Like · 3
Amy Bremer You hadn't voted on the rules yet so they are only proposed at the point, so you were in the wrong, but I'm guessing you already knew that....
12 minutes ago · Like · 6
David Murphy This guy still has a primary to make it through yet and he is screwing up a caucus, he can't even handle a caucus and he wants to go to congress?
8 minutes ago · Like · 3
Jason Scharbrough Brent Stafford was nominated as the chairman. Ignoring the rules did you no favors, Eugene. Now your political career is over. Glad you showed your true colors before people made a mistake and voted you into office.

[sailingaway]

I'd suggest we leave him alone. A dish best served cold would likely be his election and right now we need to get Ron's delegates. We don't want to give color to THEIR meme about what kind of people we are.

[WilliamShrugged]

http://lorienjohnson.com/2012/03/breaking-election-fraud-in-st-charles-co-missouri-caucus/

[opinionatedfool]

And this forum is so obsessed staying with the GOP.

We'll just take it over and it make it the independent party as you probably want.

[opinionatedfool]

I'd suggest we leave him alone. A dish best served cold would likely be his election and right now we need to get Ron's delegates. We don't want to give color to THEIR meme about what kind of people we are.

I'd suggest that he get sued until he is forced to step down or gets taken to prison. The police department(s) need to get sued as well.

Maybe our people should start calling the cops every time something doesn't go our way.

[sailingaway]

I'd suggest that he get sued until he is forced to step down or gets taken to prison. The police department(s) need to get sued as well.

Maybe our people should start calling the cops every time something doesn't go our way.

they were rent a cops at first. Hired as security and considering doofus of no authority to be the 'boss'.

[JellyRev]

Didn't I just watch on RPF Athens TN standing up to tyranny? It seems the same thing should have been done today. IF those caucusers would have been armed do you think the police would have arrested him?

On another note, Can we stop wanting to run on the GOP, and this whole being loyal to them. This is a call to arms, This is tyranny. Ron Paul should threaten 3rd party right now if this is not fixed. This is the time for him to stop playing the the game and get real. It is time.

[JonGod]

I'd suggest we leave him alone. A dish best served cold would likely be his election and right now we need to get Ron's delegates. We don't want to give color to THEIR meme about what kind of people we are.

Voice of Reason.

[opinionatedfool]

When Brent Stafford runs for something I want to vote for him, but I can't cause I'm in Michigan:(

[dillo]

Are you allowed to bring guns to these types of events?

[Tiso0770]

Are you allowed to bring guns to these types of events?

Interesting, Politicians bring their ball point pens, so why can't we.

[Batman]

He's running for state office, not congress as someone mentioned. Who is his competition? If he's anyone we can get behind I think a little money bomb may be in order.

I'm all for giving any one of his most competent opponents a huge moneybomb one day. Let's make him the new Sue Lowden.

[LibertyEagle]

I'd suggest we leave him alone. A dish best served cold would likely be his election and right now we need to get Ron's delegates. We don't want to give color to THEIR meme about what kind of people we are.

Wise words.

Plus, we need to keep our eyes on the prize right now --- delegates.

[thoughtomator]

Leave him alone? I'm in the "make an example out of him" camp. He should be made to be unable to conduct any business without this haunting him, at least until an admission of guilt and an apology.

[LibertyEagle]

Leave him alone? I'm in the "make an example out of him" camp. He should be made to be unable to conduct any business without this haunting him, at least until an admission of guilt and an apology.

No one is suggesting that we let this go. But, the most important thing right now is getting the delegates elected.

Please remember that anyone who contacts him needs to be professional in doing so, or IT WILL BACKFIRE ON RON PAUL!

[thoughtomator]

Please remember that anyone who contacts him needs to be professional in doing so, or IT WILL BACKFIRE ON RON PAUL!

I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed, given the contents of the @EugeneDokes twitter feed...

[rideurlightning]

Didn't I just watch on RPF Athens TN standing up to tyranny? It seems the same thing should have been done today. IF those caucusers would have been armed do you think the police would have arrested him?

On another note, Can we stop wanting to run on the GOP, and this whole being loyal to them. This is a call to arms, This is tyranny. Ron Paul should threaten 3rd party right now if this is not fixed. This is the time for him to stop playing the the game and get real. It is time.

THIS. I want Ron to win the GOP, but he absolutely SHOULD threaten third party. We're not going to lose any support over it.

[nobody's_hero]

On another note, Can we stop wanting to run on the GOP, and this whole being loyal to them. This is a call to arms, This is tyranny. Ron Paul should threaten 3rd party right now if this is not fixed. This is the time for him to stop playing the the game and get real. It is time.

Agreed. I have a sick feeling in my gut about trying to get involved in the GOP, even though I went to the convention here in GA, and was able to get some delegates for Ron Paul. It really feels like I'm selling myself out.

But, I am going to try to talk about freedom and see if I can get any gears turning in their heads before they have a chance to kick me out, lol.

[nobody's_hero]

I wish I had enough +rep to give to sailingaway.

[kathy88]

When Brent Stafford runs for something I want to vote for him, but I can't cause I'm in Michigan:(

Those of us out of state can always help. Monitarily, phone calls, social media, etc...

[MozoVote]

I'm all for giving any one of his most competent opponents a huge moneybomb one day. Let's make him the new Sue Lowden.I'm sure many people outside of Missouri want to help. I made donations to Nevada during their convention and legal fights.

Is DumpDokes.com taken? LOL

[Paulitics 2011]

Fuck these people. He can go fall off a fucking cliff.

[No Free Beer]

RUN THIRD PARTY NOW!

Dr. Paul should announce a press conference in the evening on Monday (tomorrow) and leak to all the media that he is dropping out of the GOP race. This will guarantee a lot of exposure and media time.

When he begins speaking, he can go on about how the whole process has been corrupt and that they (GOP) have cheated the American people and are not working in their best interest. From there, he should then officially say, "I am dropping out of the race for the GOP nomination for these reasons, as well as, because more and more people are leaving both political parties. I do not want to be associated with a party that behaves in such a manner. Therefore, I am running as a third party candidate with the ________ Party. Thank you."

[jay_dub]

I've been saying that we needed a gamechanger. This may be it. Georgia..and now Missouri, on top of the election 'irregularities' before.

Ron could bolt and go third party now and the average voter wouldn't blame him one bit. Of course, this can't hurt him in the GOP hunt, either. If this gets played right, it could put us in the catbird's seat.

[jbauer]

It seems to me that this is the beginning of the end.

The kinddeling is set the torches have been lite. Unfortunatley a Kent state type thing probably has to happen to set it ablaze.

[Mini-Me]

All I have to say is that I'm really excited to see how this continues to unfold, and I really admire the RP supporters in St. Charles! :)


RUN THIRD PARTY NOW!

Dr. Paul should announce a press conference in the evening on Monday (tomorrow) and leak to all the media that he is dropping out of the GOP race. This will guarantee a lot of exposure and media time.

When he begins speaking, he can go on about how the whole process has been corrupt and that they (GOP) have cheated the American people and are not working in their best interest. From there, he should then officially say, "I am dropping out of the race for the GOP nomination for these reasons, as well as, because more and more people are leaving both political parties. I do not want to be associated with a party that behaves in such a manner. Therefore, I am running as a third party candidate with the ________ Party. Thank you."

He would NEVER say anything like this. All of this "refusing to be associated" stuff is exactly what the GOP establishment wants. They WANT us to stop fighting within the party and leave it to them to keep unopposed...and we were so demoralized last time around that they largely succeeded. Apparently, THIS is what happens in counties where people stick around and make the establishment fight for it (and show their true colors in the process). I doubt RP will make an independent run at all (and it's likely too late to actually run under another existing party banner), but if he does, he will do so as a matter of practicality, since he's personally too old to wait for 2016. He will never say "give up on taking the GOP," especially after an event that shows how close we may be to doing exactly that.

[MozoVote]

No third party run. Dr.Paul's followers are shining the light of truth into the process and even mainstream GOP people are having their eyes opend into how things are done... beginning to question how the party operates, who sits on the committees, how the funds are used. We need to stay in it to the national convention, and make the crony cockroaches run into the cracks, state by state.

[Justinfrom1776]

Get a load of Tom Kuypers, the guy 'appointed' by Eugene Dokes at the St. Charles County Caucus.

Here he is speaking about the 08' caucus.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rplrNr8I8s

[Brian4Liberty]

Get a load of Tom Kuypers, the guy 'appointed' by Eugene Dokes at the St. Charles County Caucus.

Here he is speaking about the 08' caucus.


In all fairness to the guy, his complaint is with the process, and that the popular vote was not represented when it came time to choose delegates. His solution is not to fix the process, but to cheat and manipulate the results via a position of power. He is the definition of corruption.

[sailingaway]

In all fairness to the guy, his complaint is with the process, and that the popular vote was not represented when it came time to choose delegates. His solution is not to fix the process, but to cheat and manipulate the results via a position of power. He is the definition of corruption.

No, that is his SPIN. Because the MO caucus this time was only the result it was BECAUSE it was only campaigned for by Santorum. The party had ruled it would be meaningless in order to evade RNC rules about losing half their delegates by going so early. BECAUSE it was meaningless NO ONE but Santorum campaigned until it was time for the caucus. It is NOT fair to retroactively change that rule, particularly by ignoring still more rules.

[Schueltar]

Elections for the office of Missouri House of Representatives will be held in Missouri on November 6, 2012. All 163 seats will be up for election.
The signature filing deadline for candidates wishing to run in these elections is March 27, 2012. The primary election day will be August 7, 2012.
Dokes is running for Missouri Representative for district 70.

[Brian4Liberty]

It is NOT fair to retroactively change that rule, particularly by ignoring still more rules.

Of course no rule changes should occur retroactively. The interview is from 2008. If he had a concern, it should have been addressed before 2011. Instead, his brilliant idea was to hijack the Caucus this year and ignore all the rules. He is corrupt.

[sailingaway]

Brent Stafford added this on daily paul as a 'second update' to his post I posted yesterday (I am updated the one on the front page and OP, but it isn't at the top any more):


---------------- Update #2

I forgot to mention, I am on the St. Charles GOP Central Committee, the one Eugene Dokes is Chairman of, as well as being Chair, Vice-Chair, and Secretary of three different GOP Legislative Committees.

I need to remember to tell the media that. It was so crazy today I just wanted to tell what happened and forgot to mention it.

[kathy88]

Brent Stafford added this on daily paul as a 'second update' to his post I posted yesterday (I am updated the one on the front page and OP, but it isn't at the top any more):

NICE. Now if we can just get someone to write the story.

[angelatc]

Agreed. I have a sick feeling in my gut about trying to get involved in the GOP, even though I went to the convention here in GA, and was able to get some delegates for Ron Paul. It really feels like I'm selling myself out.

But, I am going to try to talk about freedom and see if I can get any gears turning in their heads before they have a chance to kick me out, lol.

Thats perfectly fine with the GOP. They're perfectly content if you don't attend their meetings, and don't get involved. People like you make it hard for them, and they're very busy, you know.

[Darguth]

Has there been any news on whether St. Charles will be able to reconvene the caucus, or any other restitution to this debacle?

[Suzu]

Has there been any news on whether St. Charles will be able to reconvene the caucus, or any other restitution to this debacle?
I just spoke with Brent Stafford again. He says he's beseiged by phone calls, hundreds of them today so far, and we didn't even finish the conversation on the main topic when he had to take another call "right this second". So I didn't get to ask that question. If he calls back later I will ask about that.

[Tyler_Durden]

I just spoke with Brent Stafford again. He says he's beseiged by phone calls, hundreds of them today so far, and we didn't even finish the conversation on the main topic when he had to take another call "right this second". So I didn't get to ask that question. If he calls back later I will ask about that.

Thanks for the update! Is Brent eligible to run against Dokes for the District 70 State Rep. Seat?

Is he or any of our other people considering it? Time is running out....

[trey4sports]

Thanks for the update! Is Brent eligible to run against Dokes for the District 70 State Rep. Seat?

Is he or any of our other people considering it? Time is running out....


we should know who is running for what later tonight, but im pretty sure that someone will be running.