Dennis Kucinich

[Zotde75]

Ladies and Gents, I have one more question. Views on Dennis Kucinich? Before you answer, you should watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJcnoDfFWhM

I REALLY like Kucinich. And in a Kucinich vs. Paul race, I would have a very tough time voting. Thoughts on this? I should add I am neither a republican nor democrat, but I am simply giving my support to the best candidate. Right now, I support both men, although I think Paul has a better chance.

[derdy]

He wants to ban handgun from civilian ownership and setup single payer healthcare. In otherwords: He doesn't understand the Constitution.

[maxmerkel]

that's true. i think he's a good man with absolutely no understanding of economics. i'd vote for him over mikethomphson mc romniani, though...

[Question_Authority]

Kucinich wants a nanny government. I think he has integrity, but he is misguided.

[LinearChaos]

He's not a warmonger. That makes him a winner in my book.

[Cindy]

Kucinich wants a nanny government. I think he has integrity, but he is misguided.


That sums my opinion on him too.

[cindy25]

I would love to see a Sec of State Kucinich, or a Sec of Defense Kucinich

[navi]

I think he is a principled politician but I cannot stand his socialist policies, none of which are constitutional. I don't like how liberals have been able to distort and obfuscate the meaning of the Constitution for their own purposes and making it say what it clearly doesn't. Universal healthcare for example and other entitlement nonsense.

I can't look past his stance on gun control either. It's deplorable.

[yaz]

Kucinich wants to increase the role of government and taxes.

[DanConway]

that's true. i think he's a good man with absolutely no understanding of economics. i'd vote for him over mikethomphson mc romniani, though...

It's interesting you say that. I was talking with my grandpa the other day, who is 81 years old and a lifelong liberal. He admitted that he never really understood economics. To see if I can teach him a new trick or two in that area, I'm going to get him a copy of Economics in One Lesson, which I'm currently reading. It gives a good account of how looking at the short run while disregarding the long run, and looking at effects on one group while disregarding the community as a whole, leads to a wide variety of economic fallacies, which in turn lead to misguided, bad, or ineffective government policies.

[J4ck]

I really like Kucinich, too bad he's a commie. ;)
Thats sums up pretty much what i think about him : http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/mcpherson9.html

[RegularRon]

What's with the love for Kucinich on this board?? He's a Socialist folks. The polar oposite of Dr. Paul. Kucinich wants to do away with our borders and set up a One World Governement. Kind of like what the Neo-cons (i.e. Democrats) want to do.

Gun grabbing, taxing, no more private property Socialist. Again, why love for him on here??

[Ozwest]

He's a very distant second to Ron Paul in Presidential candidate choices.

[SwooshOU]

What's with the love for Kucinich on this board?? He's a Socialist folks. The polar oposite of Dr. Paul. Kucinich wants to do away with our borders and set up a One World Governement. Kind of like what the Neo-cons (i.e. Democrats) want to do.

Gun grabbing, taxing, no more private property Socialist. Again, why love for him on here??

This is what I was thinking...

[Ozwest]

Ponder this: If Ron Paul was strictly limited to one of the Presidential candidates as a running mate, who would he choose, a Republican or a Democrat?

[Ozwest]

My guess, he'd pick either Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson, or Dennis Kucinich, if he was limited to a running mate choice from a list of current Presidential candidates during a general election. A dark horse selection might be Biden.

[Ozwest]

No ponderings?

[SWATH]

No, I do not believe that he would pick any of those. He may have picked Mike Gravel but I doubt it. If he HAD to choose from the current candidates I believe there is little question that he would choose Tom Tancredo.

[werdd]

For someone who talks about the constitution so much, he sure doesn't understand the american republic. I still like him better than the other jackasses on the stage. Cept for Gravel :/, i miss that kooky old bstd.

[bullterrier0]

What's with the love for Kucinich on this board?? He's a Socialist folks. The polar oposite of Dr. Paul. Kucinich wants to do away with our borders and set up a One World Governement. Kind of like what the Neo-cons (i.e. Democrats) want to do.

Gun grabbing, taxing, no more private property Socialist. Again, why love for him on here??

Off the top of my head:

-Patriot Act
-HR 1955
-Iraq War
-Death Penalty
-Med Marijuana/Industrial Hemp

I'm not one to carry on here, extolling the virtues of a big government guy. But he seems to have a firmer grasp on the vision of the founders than most of the so-called conservatives today (at least on the civil liberties/privacy level), minus the gun grabbing of course :D. I pesonally applaud him for that, and will do so on my way to vote for Ron Paul.

[Ozwest]

Mmm... you could be right, but I doubt it... Obviously, in the real world, Ron would pick a much better V.P. than any of the Presidential candidates available from both major parties. I personally lean towards the Judge... It is interesting to explore hypothetical questions...

[Zotde75]

I don't think Kucinich is a commie...or wants to set up a one world government. That's the business of the CFR, an organization neither Paul or Kucinich is in. Unfortunately, the rest of the GOP canidates are, as well as Clinton, Obama, etc...I think the best thing for the country and the promotion of unity would be for a guy like Paul or Kucinich to win, then they both work together to come up with the best system possible for the American people. Or am I just a crazy dreamer? =P

[BuddyRey]

I don't think Kucinich is a commie...or wants to set up a one world government. That's the business of the CFR, an organization neither Paul or Kucinich is in. Unfortunately, the rest of the GOP canidates are, as well as Clinton, Obama, etc...I think the best thing for the country and the promotion of unity would be for a guy like Paul or Kucinich to win, then they both work together to come up with the best system possible for the American people. Or am I just a crazy dreamer? =P

Agreed. The One World Government accusation has no basis at all. You can best believe that if Kucinich was a globalist, he'd be getting TEN times more coverage/praise from the MSM networks. Instead, everyone treats him like a joke, which, like in the case of RP or Mike Gravel, is usually a sign that you're doing the right thing.

[RegularRon]

To clarify my Kucinich is for a one world government...Was meant to be he wants the UN to take over. Excuse me.

Still trying to understand the love here for this Socialist. As much as I am against the Patriot Act and all and glad he voted agasint them, he STILL would take away my fire-arms, property, and oh yeah My Money.

And if Dr. Paul were to pick him for his VP (you think people don't like him now), I could Honestly say I'd write in Bruce Wayne. aka Batman. Or Pat Bucanan. I want Kucinich as far away as possible from Dr. Paul.

I know, the Anti-Iraq war folks, which I am with, would love to see this. But the last time I checked Dr. Paul, has ALOT more qualitys about him that I like alot more than just being Anti-Iraq war.

[jamesmadison]

To suggest that Kucinich is evil because of his economic policies is as absurd of a conclusion as one could possibly reach. The only way for economic liberty to be possible is if civil liberties are ensured and the right of you to do what you want, when you want. This is contingent on liberty and liberty is contingent on humanity living at some quality of life standard that is above struggling for survival.

The second richest person in the world wants an estate tax and more taxation for rich. An estate tax prevents an aristocracy - where wealth controls government and decisions not ideas.

Kucinich vs Paul would I would have to examine the issues more to make a decision.

[jamesmadison]

.aa

[jamesmadison]

A Paul Kucinich 2008 ticket is a certain victory, with or without party nominations.

[Ozwest]

To suggest that Kucinich is evil because of his economic policies is as absurd of a conclusion as one could possibly reach. The only way for economic liberty to be possible is if civil liberties are ensured and the right of you to do what you want, when you want. This is contingent on liberty and liberty is contingent on humanity living at some quality of life standard that is above struggling for survival.

The second richest person in the world wants an estate tax and more taxation for rich. An estate tax prevents an aristocracy - where wealth controls government and decisions not ideas.

Kucinich vs Paul would I would have to examine the issues more to make a decision.

I found your comments interesting. as I am an ex Democrat converted to Ron Paul. I was a Kucinich supporter from way back... Philosophically, the clincher is "show me the money." As a small businessman, economies of scale are paramount to succesful outcomes. The producer or entrepreneur consistently uses his earnings and capitalization more efficiently than beaurocracies and cumbersome monopolies. Simply stated, "bottom up "works better than "top down."

[RPFTW!]

Kucinich is a good guy, and theres no denying that, I disagree with him but think him and Gravel are good democrats.

[Ron Paul in 2008]

Kucinich is a good guy, and theres no denying that, I disagree with him but think him and Gravel are good democrats.

True. Kuchinic is a communist but he stands for his principles so I can't help but somewhat respect him. I hate his politics though.


To clarify my Kucinich is for a one world government...Was meant to be he wants the UN to take over. Excuse me.

Still trying to understand the love here for this Socialist. As much as I am against the Patriot Act and all and glad he voted agasint them, he STILL would take away my fire-arms, property, and oh yeah My Money.

So true. Not to mention he supported the fairness doctrine which basically silences anyone who disagrees with political correctness.

[TheIndependent]

Kucinich signed a letter of solidarity with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela in 2004.

No deal.

[Ncturnal]

What's with the love for Kucinich on this board?? He's a Socialist folks. The polar oposite of Dr. Paul. Kucinich wants to do away with our borders and set up a One World Governement. Kind of like what the Neo-cons (i.e. Democrats) want to do.

Gun grabbing, taxing, no more private property Socialist. Again, why love for him on here??

No idea. :confused: Just because he carries a copy of the Constitution around doesn't make him the likeness of Ron Paul.


To suggest that Kucinich is evil because of his economic policies is as absurd of a conclusion as one could possibly reach.

Taking something from someone else is theft. End of story. I'd consider that evil. You would too if it was being taken from you.


The only way for economic liberty to be possible is if civil liberties are ensured and the right of you to do what you want, when you want. This is contingent on liberty and liberty is contingent on humanity living at some quality of life standard that is above struggling for survival.

With the BS you spew on this forums, the only question that comes to mind is WTF are you doing here? Trolling is the only logical conclusion.




True. Kuchinic is a communist but he stands for his principles so I can't help but somewhat respect him. I hate his politics though.

To quote the Scott McPherson article...


Joseph Stalin stood up for what he believed in. Adolph Hitler stood up for what he believed in. Benito Mussolini stood up for what he believed in. Pol Pot stood up for what he believed in. Franklin Roosevelt stood up for what he believed in. George W. Bush stands up for what he believes in. Just because someone consistently says what they mean, and means what they say, doesn't mean they're worthy of our vote.

I have to agree with McPherson on this one.

[RegularRon]

Kucinich signed a letter of solidarity with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela in 2004.

No deal.

Good lord did he really? Yeah, how about a NO FRIGGIN DEAL.

And Ncturnal, I maybe new to posting here, but I have been lurking for a while. It is the STRANGEST thing to see people who support this goof-ball, Obama,.Im sure we even have some Countress Elizabeth Bathory (Hilary) supporters on here too. By the way my main motivation to start posting here is because of this Socialist Element on the boards, was to understand why do people who would mainly be supporting these morons that I just listed, if Dr. Paul wasn't running.

Cause he's against the Iraq War? Yeah great most real Conservatives are. But guess what, It's NOT THE ONLY POSITION HE HOLDS FOLKS. Getting rid of the IRS, and the Federal Income Tax, has been a real Conservative held view since it was intruduced. And of course Dr. Paul is a Real Conservative.

When I see these same folks ripping neo-cons, I laugh. Neo-cons were/still are Deomcrats. And I have a feeling most know that they were followers of that Commie Bastard Totsky. Which the John Birch Society (I am a member) has been pointing out for the last 20 years.

Hey, I'm glad to see so many people supporting the Good Dr. but if a lot of you still hold Socialist views.....Why do you support the Dr. again??

[nexus7]

He wants to ban handgun from civilian ownership and setup single payer healthcare. In otherwords: He doesn't understand the Constitution.

True and I could never vote for him because of his open border policies that are currently crippling this country.

Kucinich is okay on some things, like the enviroment, but he reverts to cultural marxism on others. So I'd probably end up voting constituional party or for someone else if paul wasn't running. Though i'd "write" paul in anyway.

[user]

I'm not a huge fan but Dennis Kucinich would probably be my third choice among the major candidates in the two big parties today, behind Ron Paul and Mike Gravel. Like others have said, he's too much of a socialist, but at least he's pretty solid on other civil liberties and the war.