Psychopath Screening: Excluding Psychopaths from Government

[kcv081]

Psychopath Screening: Excluding Psychopaths from Government

Many of our current social institutions suffer substantially from a lack of attention to psychopathic extreme disability.

So much of the corruption be traced back to psychopathic individuals. For example, Watergate, or 9/11.

Because of these and many other instances over time, it is obvious psychopath screening protocols would have tremendous benefits upon our society. Do these currently exist, and if so how can they be improved?

[3kgt]

I have had many similar thoughts recently.

[TheTexan]

You don't need a test to know Santorum is a psychopath. People still vote for him.

[kcv081]

Any further commentary appreciated..

[specsaregood]

Any further commentary appreciated..

Everytime I see this thread title I think of Ron Paul giving a speech to an empty US House building.

[pcosmar]

I have been beginning to think it was a job requirement.

Ron Paul is being rejected because he doesn't meet the Psychopath Requirement.

:(

[bolil]

So... who gets tested for psychopathy? What are acceptable levels?

[Acala]

When you are in the minority, as are those who truly understand and support liberty, you don't want to be creating institutions that are empowered to judge you on the basis of mental state. In other words, there are more people who think the members of this Board are crazy than there are people who think Santorum is crazy. Better to just limit government power so much that it really doesn't matter if a psychopath gets elected.

But, really, our government and our politicians accurately reflect the state of the American consciousness. Santorum exists because people want him.

[pcosmar]

Santorum exists because people want him.

Thanks. :rolleyes:

That thought doesn't really help at all. :(

[JK/SEA]

hmmm...well....testing for drugs and alcohol might be in order. Mental dis-orders are sometimes caused by injesting certain substances.

Marijuana excepted.

[WilliamC]

If ya'll haven't done so you need to read The Truth Machine (http://coins.ha.com/c/content.zx?content=ttm) by James Halperin.

He wrote some SF, made some money, and opened a coin shop and now deals in gold silver, so he sounds like a good guy.

And you can download it free from the link above.

Imagine a 100% perfect lie detector, as reliable as an MRI or PET scan and unable to be 'fooled'.

We probably have the technology today to do this but as of now it hasn't been pushed like it should be.

That would take care of the psychopath factor which currently pollutes government today, 'cause even psychopaths lie and know they are lying.

They just don't have an emotional response to it like us normal people.

[Zippyjuan]

Next we can screen people for all kinds of things. Maybe even lock them up if they don't reach "desired" traits for humans. We can keep upping the standards until only us elite are left.

A psychopath can lie and not be detected because they believe the lie is truth.

[Voluntary Man]

Psychopath Screening: Excluding Psychopaths from Government

Many of our current social institutions suffer substantially from a lack of attention to psychopathic extreme disability.

So much of the corruption be traced back to psychopathic individuals. For example, Watergate, or 9/11.

Because of these and many other instances over time, it is obvious psychopath screening protocols would have tremendous benefits upon our society. Do these currently exist, and if so how can they be improved?

So much is discussed about making government better, smaller, more efficient, and so on, but there is not enough discussion of what government is: government is a rape machine. Who would want to operate a rape machine? Rapists! We can talk about miniaturizing it, or making it better, stronger, faster, and more fuel-efficient. But, it will always be a rape machine. It doesn't need to be perfected; it needs to be destroyed. Anything less is an unacceptable compromise. Only a psychopath would want to be at the controls of such a machine. You want to keep psychopaths away from the controls? Destroy the controls. Disassemble the rape machine.

[WilliamC]

Next we can screen people for all kinds of things. Maybe even lock them up if they don't reach "desired" traits for humans. We can keep upping the standards until only us elite are left.

A psychopath can lie and not be detected because they believe the lie is truth.

Not true, at least not according to latest research.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/03/noliemri/

While the technology isn't quite there yet, we will get to having brain scans that are unbeatable.

If you don't 'know' the truth to a question you can't lie about it, but psychopaths lie about their emotional states and know they are lying even if they don't accept that they are wrong for doing so. It simply isn't possible to hold differing, conflicting narratives in your consciousness for long periods of time without having different brain states than someone who isn't. Neuroanatomy is the same for everyone, and different subsets of neurons are involved in distinct processing activities which can be spatio-temporally visualized in real time and are the same for everyone.

Human consciousness is going to turn out to be more objective than most folks will be comfortable with, and this will play out with technology that will allow us to accurately detect persons emotional and mental states even if we won't be able to telepathically read thoughts. We will also shortly or already have developed technology that will remotely allow us to manipulate persons brain states from a distance without their knowledge, even it it doesn't turn the person into an robot.

But the big breakthrough will come when we develop quantum based computers that can hold entangled informational states in their memory for long periods of time and use the collapse of said states to reach the same cognitive awareness as we humans think we are solely in possession of. We've already demonstrated that our consciousness differs from those of chimpanzees and gorillas only by a matter of degree, not kind, and when we can build computers that are as 'human' in their communication as you and I then only the most ignorant will continue to believe there is anything supernatural about human awareness or consciousness.

[TheTexan]

But, really, our government and our politicians accurately reflect the state of the American consciousness. Santorum exists because people want him.

This is a true statement. Some people on this board... *cough* LE *cough*... don't want to accept this yet.

Step 1) Accept that the people of this country don't want freedom, and will never want freedom
Step 2) ...
Step 3) Freedom!