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GopBlackList
03-08-2012, 01:25 PM
Do any of you honestly believe what the candidates say about repealing Obamacare.? The reality is in my opinion that portions of it would probably be contested.

Lishy
03-08-2012, 02:08 PM
Only Paul will repeal Obamacare. The others will make an excuse when president.

ctiger2
03-08-2012, 02:13 PM
Only Paul will repeal Obamacare. The others will make an excuse when president.

+infinity

Lishy
03-08-2012, 02:48 PM
With Romney, it's like hiring a Pyromaniac to be a Fireman. Do you honestly believe he will put out the fires when he himself likes to start them?

bluesc
03-08-2012, 02:48 PM
Even Ron said it's unrealistic and probably won't happen.

Feeding the Abscess
03-08-2012, 06:53 PM
Even Ron said it's unrealistic and probably won't happen.

This, and it's why he tends to talk about mandates in general when it is brought up.

NoOneButPaul
03-08-2012, 07:00 PM
Even Ron said it's unrealistic and probably won't happen.

Yeaaaappp...as usual, the only one telling the truth.

bluesc
03-08-2012, 07:05 PM
Yeaaaappp...as usual, the only one telling the truth.

He gained a vote for that truth bomb at the debate.

rockerrockstar
03-08-2012, 09:23 PM
I think it will be very difficult to get the votes to repeal it. There would need to be a major shift for that to happen.

"We can all agree that most economic conservatives want to repeal Obama care, right? Depending on the poll the same holds true for Independents. Sure, TARP was the first spark and the stimulus bill threw fuel on the fire. But Obamacare was what set the Tea Party off into a full-scale conflagration.

Since we can agree on the goal, all that remains is determining the best course of action to make repeal actually happen. Before we can seriously discuss making repeal a reality there are three requirements - a Republican President, a Republican majority in the House, and a filibuster-proof majority of 60 in the Senate. Not just a majority, a filibuster-proof majority. The Dems will use every tool in their arsenal to prevent repeal. And getting to 60 seats is going mean accepting some Republican Senators who only vote with the Republican caucus 60% of the time."

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2010/09/21/so-you-want-to-repeal-obamacare.php

seraphson
03-08-2012, 09:47 PM
So what does that mean for all the people that allegedly come to America because their own countries' healthcare system would have them dead by the time a treatment can be done?

emazur
03-08-2012, 10:57 PM
The reality is in my opinion that portions of it would probably be contested.

That's a pretty safe bet since Romney specifically stated that was his intention:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/10318-romney-on-obamacare-in-2010-repeal-the-bad-and-keep-the-good

Klein, however, is specifically reacting to video of an April 2010 Romney appearance that has recently resurfaced on YouTube. In the video Romney compares and contrasts the healthcare plan he signed into law as Governor of Massachusetts with the one President Barack Obama approved shortly before this appearance. He ends by saying that he wants “to eliminate some of the differences, repeal the bad, and keep the good” in ObamaCare.

stephenwv
03-11-2012, 04:30 AM
The best way to get rid of Obamacare may be the Health Care Compact. It brings control of healthcare back to the States, yet retains the money flow from Washington to the states.
Here is the link to the Health Care Compact Georgia passed... legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20112012/116882.pdf (www at front of link)
Other than that, the Appropriations Committee could not fund any part of Obamacare, although the Obamacare law included language that by-passes appropriations to provide future funding guarantees. Is this even legal?

truetube
03-18-2012, 11:48 AM
Like Paul said, people will be weaned gradually because they have become dependant on govt. schemes
He will first cut war spending and foriegn funding. He also said new taxpayers may opt out of healthcare AND save you a bunch of cash on taxes which you can spend on health insurance of your choice. It's a troublesome delivery but the doc is good

kuckfeynes
03-18-2012, 12:37 PM
Still a glimmer of hope on the bench... (http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120316/EDIT13/120319556/1147/EDIT07)

They have 4. They need 5. Scalia and Kennedy are their best shots.
Neither is really a guarantee... Too ideologically inconsistent to predict.
But the chance is there that at least the mandate part of the law could still get struck down.

Feeding the Abscess
03-18-2012, 05:56 PM
Still a glimmer of hope on the bench... (http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120316/EDIT13/120319556/1147/EDIT07)

They have 4. They need 5. Scalia and Kennedy are their best shots.
Neither is really a guarantee... Too ideologically inconsistent to predict.
But the chance is there that at least the mandate part of the law could still get struck down.

Am I a bad person for hoping Scalia sides with the Constitutionality of ACA, since conservatives everywhere will have a heart attack?