Kucinich loses House seat

[ConCap]

Redistricting by the Republican-controlled state legislature threw Kucinich into the same district as another Democratic incumbent, Marcy Kaptur. The two had to compete in a primary. Kucinich lost.

[muzzled dogg]

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[ConCap]

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Just some of the other politics going on in Ohio.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Projected by CNN.

[kill the banks]

poor Dennis

[Keith and stuff]

Link?

[Havax]

Loses by 16% in Ohio to another Democrat. Most likely a net loss for liberty because he was a great voice against war and the fed. Doubtful the woman who unseated him will be as good as he was on those two issues while still carrying all of Kucinich's negatives.

[runningdiz]

:(

[Indy Vidual]

16% wow, what happened?

[wgadget]

Sniffle.

[nasaal]

Loses by 16% in Ohio to another Democrat. Most likely a net loss for liberty because he was a great voice against war and the fed. Doubtful the woman who unseated him will be as good as he was on those two issues while still carrying all of Kucinich's negatives.
The authoritarians won. I'd move out of the country if I could afford it. I had hope, but it is what it is. Next will be everyone playing the blame game. Person A saying that people B-Z didn't do enough for Paul to win.

[economics102]

Wow, this is a really bad day for liberty (I mean unless we win Alaska).

On the other hand, that means Kucinich will be available to serve in the Paul Administration :)

[QWDC]

Redistricting, he lost to another current democratic congresswoman.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Wow, this is a really bad day for liberty (I mean unless we win Alaska).

On the other hand, that means Kucinich will be available to serve in the Paul Administration :)

To serve as Paul's adviser to implementing Obamacare? :rolleyes:

[Anti Federalist]

Headline:

Newly re-elected Ohio Congresswoman Attends Gala AIPAC Fundraiser.

[moderate libertarian]

Sort of like anti-war pundit was ousted by nbc before iraq war. Neocons and Obama's douchy masters could be on the prawl again.

[economics102]

To serve as Paul's adviser to implementing Obamacare? :rolleyes:

Fortunately that department won't exist under the Paul administration :)

[LopTarDaBoo]

Kaptur is comparable to Kucinich. I think one of the reasons they redistricted it the way they did was so they could be sure of forcing one of them to leave. Both went against the grain in speaking out against banker bailouts and banking fraud, particularly notary fraud.

One of the few moments of sanity in government I witnessed was getting to see both Kucinich and Paul speak live at the House in opposition to extending the Patriot Act. The room was almost empty and I was forced to leave when I clapped after Kucinich spoke. America is fucked.

[ConCap]

Link?

No You Tube link yet.

[PolicyReader]

Loses by 16% in Ohio to another Democrat. Most likely a net loss for liberty because he was a great voice against war and the fed. Doubtful the woman who unseated him will be as good as he was on those two issues while still carrying all of Kucinich's negatives.

^This
He was also good on a lot of personal liberty issues (tho that had gotten weaker of late) but for all his lacks he was still one of the best actually on office, pity because as stated likely replacements aren't at all probable to be as good/better

[Keith and stuff]

I'll post a link because the OPs, well, I don't know what is going on but a link should have been posted :)

In battle of incumbents, Kucinich loses House seat in Ohio
CNN Political Unit
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/07/in-battle-of-incumbents-kucinich-loses-house-seat-in-ohio/

Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio lost his bid for re-election in the state's Democratic primary Tuesday night to fellow longtime House Democrat Marcy Kaptur, CNN projects.

[AuH20]

Kucinich made a backroom deal with Obama on Obamacare and this was his fate? Really?

[ConCap]

Kaptur will maybe face Joe the Plummer

[economics102]

Kaptur will face Joe the Plummer

Are you serious? LOL.

[nasaal]

He played the team game. Even doing so gets you nothing. This should be a wake up call for the people who think Rand playing ball is what will get him status. If they know you are against the grain, no amount of playing ball will raise you up.

[ConCap]

Are you serious? LOL.

At this time he is ahead by 400+

[ConCap]

Kucinich made a backroom deal with Obama on Obamacare and this was his fate? Really?

Kucinich Behind in Race After Redistricting

http://www.google.com/search?q=kucinich+out++due+to+redistricting.&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_en


Redistricting by the Republican-controlled state legislature threw Kucinich into the same district as another Democratic incumbent, Marcy Kaptur. The two will compete in a primary.

[anaconda]

Paul/Kucinich independent ticket 2012. Honor the Constitution regardless of political ideology.

[muzzled dogg]

Paul/Kucinich independent ticket 2012. Honor the Constitution regardless of political ideology.

didnt kucinich vote for NDAA?

[anaconda]

Redistricting, he lost to another current democratic congresswoman.

I don't get it....was there an interim election? Don't they get to keep their seat for at least two years unless there's a vacancy created?

[ConCap]

I don't get it....was there an interim election? Don't they get to keep their seat for at least two years unless there's a vacancy created?

Redistricting by the Republican-controlled state legislature threw Kucinich into the same district as another Democratic incumbent, Marcy Kaptur. The two will compete in a primary. Kucinich lost.

[Aratus]

Ms. Kaptur captured Kucinich's seat? had to ask...

[Jeffster]

Not sure why my original post was deleted, but anyway, I'm glad Kucinich lost. He was pro-life (or at least claimed to be) until he decided to run for president, then suddenly had a "change of heart" and became pro-choice when he wanted to win the democratic nomination. I have no respect for those kind of politicians, which is the same reason I don't respect Romney.

[Son of Detroit]

A statist is replaced by another statist.

Nothing here to see. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Dennis.

[Feeding the Abscess]

didnt kucinich vote for NDAA?

He was against it.

Losing both Ron and Kucinich is a serious loss for the anti-war voice in Congress.

Also important is Timothy Johnson of Illinois' race. He was also redistricted, and is going against another incumbent Republican. He has become more Ron Paul-like over the last few years, now being as reliable an ally as Walter Jones.

[economics102]

Doesn't sound like Kucinich thinks much of Kaptur:


I would like to be able to congratulate Congresswoman Kaptur but I do have to say that she ran a media campaign in the Cleveland media market that was utterly lacking in integrity with false statements half truths, [and] misrepresentations. I hope that is not the kind of representation she would provide to this community. And I don't think the people of Toledo have any idea of the kind of campaign that was run up in the Cleveland area.

[anaconda]

Redistricting by the Republican-controlled state legislature threw Kucinich into the same district as another Democratic incumbent, Marcy Kaptur. The two will compete in a primary. Kucinich lost.

So can we assume that Kucinich keeps his job until January? And that his district remains intact until that time?

[anaconda]

didnt kucinich vote for NDAA?

He voted no:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll932.xml

[emazur]

Not saying I'm a fan, but you could do a lot worse than this woman. She opposed the bailout, distrusts the Fed, and opposes a North American Union. But like Kucinich, she made the Hall of Shame list (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/materials/HR1207-Shame-List.pdf) by cosponsoring HR 1207 and then voting against the full Fed audit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T0zdbwdqCk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAs7XZVgKhI

[oyarde]

Not to piss anyone off , but one Buckeye Dem is the same as another , they will bankrupt your country , snatch some weapons on the way , I say , after it all collapses and they starve , make tools from the bones they leave , they deserve that fate , some of the others they will starve do not . Feel sorry for Denny ? , just picture him flying around with the President while they decide how that bullshit health care vote has to be made . Still feel sorry for him ? , Well , do not, your tax dollars get to pay him a pension for his ride on air force one.

[Tod]

Redistricting by the Republican-controlled state legislature threw Kucinich into the same district as another Democratic incumbent, Marcy Kaptur. The two had to compete in a primary. Kucinich lost.

Her radio ads were really devoid of integrity; made me want to barf.

[nasaal]

Not to piss anyone off , but one Buckeye Dem is the same as another , they will bankrupt your country , snatch some weapons on the way , I say , after it all collapses and they starve , make tools from the bones they leave , they deserve that fate , some of the others they will starve do not . Feel sorry for Denny ? , just picture him flying around with the President while they decide how that bullshit health care vote has to be made . Still feel sorry for him ? , Well , do not, your tax dollars get to pay him a pension for his ride on air force one.

Yup still feel bad that one of the most vocal anti-war and anti-Fed people at the federal level is gone.

[Aratus]

^ agreed. end of an era. totally ^

[vita3]

Currently, I think Kaputor is the stronger of the two. Amazing how the game works & they gerry-madered the districts into one..

I've met Dennis & like him, but he wasn't that effective as a Congressman. He deserves lifetime recognition for voting against the Iraq war.
He had the chairmanship of a GOV oversight committee & promised to take the insider trading on 911 put options into the light... but he didn't.

Guy might be better outside of Congress, trying to fight for things he believes in, in the media/thinktank/grass-roots, etc.

If Paul went Indy, you would want this guy on the team. I don't think he's VP material, but he could run something beneficial to the American people.

[Liberty74]

I am not saddened. It was a full fledge anti-human Socialist.

Wasn't he the dick douche that went on a plan trip with Obama right before the Obamacare vote that secured victory in the House?

I am glad he lost.

[slamhead]

Well when your own party runs another candidate against you it pretty much means they want you out. The GOP did it Ron Paul in 2010. They actually put a "Tea Party" candidate up against Ron. I laughed when I heard that.

[Tina]

He was against it.

Losing both Ron and Kucinich is a serious loss for the anti-war voice in Congress.



Indeed. Sad news.

[K466]

That sucks. But I lost some respect for him when he voted for Obamacare.

[NCGOPer_for_Paul]

I am not saddened. It was a full fledge anti-human Socialist.

Wasn't he the dick douche that went on a plan trip with Obama right before the Obamacare vote that secured victory in the House?

I am glad he lost.

This.

Bye Dennis. Pack up and leave you socialist hack.

For all you Kucinich fans, you are aware that the Constitution does include Article I Section 8, right? Dennis seems to have forgotten that clause means, or doesn't think it exists.

[Feeding the Abscess]

This.

Bye Dennis. Pack up and leave you socialist hack.

For all you Kucinich fans, you are aware that the Constitution does include Article I Section 8, right? Dennis seems to have forgotten that clause means, or doesn't think it exists.

Kucinich opposes war abroad and the war on drugs here at home. War is a racket, the health of the state, and big government's best friend. The simple fact that he opposes those two things makes him a greater ally in liberty than the vast majority of the GOP. He's also against the Fed, opposes Gitmo, voted against NDAA, and opposed TARP. Yeah, he's socialist. And the GOP isn't? The difference is a matter of degree, not of principle.

Go ahead, name me Republicans who meet all of the above criteria.

Your hero Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt, by the way. So in his rendezvous with history, he sentenced me and others born during and after his reign of terror to enslavement under the crushing burden of debt and expanding government. And if we wanted to smoke weed or whatever to escape the grim reality of our futures, well, we'd get thrown in a cage, thanks to his massive expansion of the drug war.

You'll forgive me if I can see the merit in Kucinich's opposing the blatant slaughter of innocent people around the world, even if he's an oppressive statist economically.

[Aratus]

i'm going to miss him. the Democrat who won
is about to take on 'joe the plumber' for his seat.

[SilentBull]

Doesn't matter to me. Kucinich is a socialist. Don't care for him at all.

[Esoteric]

Doesn't matter to me. Kucinich is a socialist. Don't care for him at all.

He's a socialist, in the most benign sense. He's not a corporatism. He believes in domestic welfare to the max.. but he's Anti-Fed, and Anti-War, and when you think about the gravity of those problems, domestic welfare seems pretty benign.

[seyferjm]

I wasn't a fan of his, but he will always be one of the more unique people elected from the state of Ohio. He was a bit of an anomaly as far as Ohio politics are concerned.

[NCGOPer_for_Paul]

The fact that he thinks we ought to be taxed because we breathe outweighs anything that he might be right on. He DID NOT vote to audit the Fed.

Yes, he's anti-war, and anti-drug war. However, he believes in the power of government force to steal my earnings to give to someone else who he deems "deserving". He also believes in the power of government force to tell me what's good for me. I fail to see how that makes him any better than a neo-con who wants to steal my earnings to go bomb brown people. Both actions are reprehensible.

Kuchinch is a broken clock, he's right twice a day.

[Jeremy]

I'm not sure why some of your are upset. The guy was a strong advocate for extremely large government. Even his few good issues, like foreign policy, he wasn't very consistent on.

[oyarde]

This.

Bye Dennis. Pack up and leave you socialist hack.

For all you Kucinich fans, you are aware that the Constitution does include Article I Section 8, right? Dennis seems to have forgotten that clause means, or doesn't think it exists. It is my favorite , I want it used .

[Pericles]

He's a socialist, in the most benign sense. He's not a corporatism. He believes in domestic welfare to the max.. but he's Anti-Fed, and Anti-War, and when you think about the gravity of those problems, domestic welfare seems pretty benign.

Except that domestic welfare has led to $15T in debt, will cause untold economic misery for hundreds of millions of people, led to federal control of most aspects of our lives, and we are unable to stop it.

BTW, because of population shifts, Ohio lost two Representatives in Congress - and none of them were retiring ....

[AuH20]

Except that domestic welfare has led to $15T in debt, will cause untold economic misery for hundreds of millions of people, led to federal control of most aspects of our lives, and we are unable to stop it.

BTW, because of population shifts, Ohio lost two Representatives in Congress - and none of them were retiring ....

+ Rep. Domestic welfare is the main reason why this country is in ruin, especially if you look at the budget outlays. In fact, you could make an argument that domestic welfare through Social Security embezzlement has granted the U.S. greater maneuerability in pursuing an imperialistic foreign policy. SS is a main reason why our bonds were bought by foreign investors. Ron's brother talked about this extensively stating that the SS pool is viewed as collateral.

[oyarde]

Except that domestic welfare has led to $15T in debt, will cause untold economic misery for hundreds of millions of people, led to federal control of most aspects of our lives, and we are unable to stop it.

BTW, because of population shifts, Ohio lost two Representatives in Congress - and none of them were retiring ....Correct , when will people learn ??

[ZenBowman]

Kucinich opposes war abroad and the war on drugs here at home. War is a racket, the health of the state, and big government's best friend. The simple fact that he opposes those two things makes him a greater ally in liberty than the vast majority of the GOP. He's also against the Fed, opposes Gitmo, voted against NDAA, and opposed TARP. Yeah, he's socialist. And the GOP isn't? The difference is a matter of degree, not of principle.

Go ahead, name me Republicans who meet all of the above criteria.

Your hero Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt, by the way. So in his rendezvous with history, he sentenced me and others born during and after his reign of terror to enslavement under the crushing burden of debt and expanding government. And if we wanted to smoke weed or whatever to escape the grim reality of our futures, well, we'd get thrown in a cage, thanks to his massive expansion of the drug war.

You'll forgive me if I can see the merit in Kucinich's opposing the blatant slaughter of innocent people around the world, even if he's an oppressive statist economically.

This. After Paul, Kucinich was the closest to a Constitutionalist in office.

[nasaal]

This. After Paul, Kucinich was the closest to a Constitutionalist in office.

I think the problem is that with some people, if you don't agree on issues you are bad. His philosophy is very different from Paul's. THey form coalitions because they are generally good people who can agree on certain things being unconstitutional. Kucinich has it in his head that it is the job of government to take care of everyone. I happen to greatly disagree. That doesn't make him a bad person, or a bad representative. He tried playing the game the last few years. It did him absolutely no good and the party did nothing for him when it came time for him to collect on the favors. This is why I don't trust playing the game as a valid excuse to play power. If those in charge of the parties feel that you are against the grain by nature, they won't put any faith in you just because you play ball with them for awhile. They require something more to where they believe you really are one of them. This is why I don't buy the subversion theories people place on Rand. They believe he is just playing the party.

You don't play an organization like one of the major parties. They play you. They use you for what they want, and they may be nice about some of your pet projects in return.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Good. He tramples on the Constitution.

[Butchie]

So Democrats are just as stupid as Repbulicans, well, I already knew that.

[Butchie]

Kucinich opposes war abroad and the war on drugs here at home. War is a racket, the health of the state, and big government's best friend. The simple fact that he opposes those two things makes him a greater ally in liberty than the vast majority of the GOP. He's also against the Fed, opposes Gitmo, voted against NDAA, and opposed TARP. Yeah, he's socialist. And the GOP isn't? The difference is a matter of degree, not of principle.

Go ahead, name me Republicans who meet all of the above criteria.

Your hero Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt, by the way. So in his rendezvous with history, he sentenced me and others born during and after his reign of terror to enslavement under the crushing burden of debt and expanding government. And if we wanted to smoke weed or whatever to escape the grim reality of our futures, well, we'd get thrown in a cage, thanks to his massive expansion of the drug war.

You'll forgive me if I can see the merit in Kucinich's opposing the blatant slaughter of innocent people around the world, even if he's an oppressive statist economically.

I think this may be the first time I've ever agreed with you, GREAT POST!

[anaconda]

He DID NOT vote to audit the Fed.



What "vote" are you referring to? HR 1207 was attached to the House bill, so it never got an up or down vote. Dennis was a cosponsor of HR 1207.

[Drex]

:(

[Agorism]

The kook is out.

Won't miss him.

[juleswin]

Kucinich opposes war abroad and the war on drugs here at home. War is a racket, the health of the state, and big government's best friend. The simple fact that he opposes those two things makes him a greater ally in liberty than the vast majority of the GOP. He's also against the Fed, opposes Gitmo, voted against NDAA, and opposed TARP. Yeah, he's socialist. And the GOP isn't? The difference is a matter of degree, not of principle.

Go ahead, name me Republicans who meet all of the above criteria.

Your hero Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt, by the way. So in his rendezvous with history, he sentenced me and others born during and after his reign of terror to enslavement under the crushing burden of debt and expanding government. And if we wanted to smoke weed or whatever to escape the grim reality of our futures, well, we'd get thrown in a cage, thanks to his massive expansion of the drug war.

You'll forgive me if I can see the merit in Kucinich's opposing the blatant slaughter of innocent people around the world, even if he's an oppressive statist economically.

What he said. Its point that needs to be made, republicans are socialists too, they just good at lying about it