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PolicyReader
03-04-2012, 06:42 PM
BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
Click Here (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?346522-PDF-Delegate-information-for-ALL-50-states!-Wondering-about-your-state-look-no-further!) or Here (http://www.ronpaul2012.com/Delegate/) to get started Now!


I am creating this thread as an index of shared knowledge regarding the experience of being a delegate.
It can be vital to know what to expect, and how to prepare going in. I will be compiling posts and articles that contain related information.
If you have a personal story, or know of a post, article, or video on this subject please submit it to this thread so I can include it in the OP.
I'll close by saying Thank You to every Paul supporter who has chosen to become a delegate, your contribution to liberty is deeply appreciated.


This thread is a work in progress, please excuse the mess.

PolicyReader
03-04-2012, 06:42 PM
Threads
*Delegate success at Oklahoma convention! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?365007-Delegate-success-at-Oklahoma-convention!)
*My WA Caucus Experience, and Advice (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?364943-My-WA-Caucus-Experience-and-Advice)
*A Few Important Lessons I learned at the local Delegate meeting (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?361501-A-Few-Important-Lessons-I-learned-at-the-local-Delegate-meeting&p=4189287#post4189287)
*RP delegates were intimidated and harrased at the RNC (stories from 2008) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?365946-RP-delegates-were-intimidated-and-harrased-at-the-RNC-%28stories-from-2008%29)
*enjoy this story from my caucus (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?366113-enjoy-this-story-from-my-caucus)
*A Story from Cobb County, GA (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?366508-A-Story-from-Cobb-County-GA)
*We took 100% of the delegates (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?366536-We-took-100-of-the-delegates)
*Getting ready to go to a mass precinct meeting (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?366314-Getting-ready-to-go-to-a-mass-precinct-meeting)
*Ron Paul supporters dominate GOP caucuses in St. Louis, Jackson County (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?368923-Ron-Paul-supporters-dominate-GOP-caucuses-in-St.-Louis-Jackson-County)
*Explain the County To State Process for delegate selection (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?369344-Explain-the-County-To-State-Process-for-delegate-selection)
*Just got back from BPOU convention (MN) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?369893-Just-got-back-from-BPOU-convention)
*How to deal with a chair who won't follow Robers Rules of Order (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?369879-HOW-TO-DEAL-WITH-A-CHAIR-WHO-WON-T-FOLLOW-ROBERTS-RULES)
*Colorado state convention thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?371975-Colorado-state-convention-thread)
*Corruption and shafting in D4 GA (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?371990-Corruption-and-shafting-in-D4-GA)
*Minnesota District Conventions Thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?371993-Minnesota-District-Conventions-Thread)
*Strategies to Learn (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?368504-Strategies-to-Learn)

PolicyReader
03-04-2012, 06:43 PM
Articles
*A Delegate 'How To' (2008) (http://www3.webng.com/ronpaul/delegatestates.html)
*Ron Paul Wins Another County (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?367245-Ron-Paul-Wins-Another-County-How-We-Did-It-and-You-Can-Too)
*A tale of intrigue (spying on the opposition) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?369528-A-tale-of-intrigue-%28spying-on-the-opposition%29-MUST-READ) - MUST READ (http://dougwead.wordpress.com/)
*Romney, Paul campaigns allege misconduct in Mo. caucus county (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?369264-Romney-Paul-campaigns-allege-misconduct-in-Mo.-caucus-county-%28Updated%29)
*The Ronulans are among us: How Ron Paul’s delegate strategy is actually working (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?369294-The-Ronulans-are-among-us-How-Ron-Paul%E2%80%99s-delegate-strategy-is-actually-working)
*Ron Paul Upsets Santorum In Missouri Caucuses Buoyed By Huge Youth Turnout (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?368920-Ron-Paul-Upsets-Santorum-In-Missouri-Caucuses-Buoyed-By-Huge-Youth-Turnout)
*Cognitive Dissonance: The 2012 Snohomish County Republican Convention (http://blog.aaronjwilson.com/cognitive-dissonance-the-2012-snohomish-county-republican-convention)
*Jefferson County, IA Convention. What Happened, What We Learned (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?370492-Jefferson-County-IA-Convention.-What-Happened-What-We-Learned)
*GOP corruption in Missouri: An update (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?370705-GOP-corruption-in-Missouri-An-update)
*Virginia Ron Paul delegates blocked by corrupt committee chairman (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?371723-Virginia-Ron-Paul-delegates-blocked-by-corrupt-committee-chairman)
*Athens Convention "Debriefing" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?372433-Athens-Convention-quot-Debriefing-quot)

PolicyReader
03-04-2012, 06:43 PM
Video
*More shenanigans in MN Republican conventions (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?368816-More-shenanigans-in-MN-republican-conventions)
*Delegate Process In Lexington, KY (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?369471-Delegate-Process-In-Lexington-KY)
*Ron Paul Supporters in Oklahoma Fight Back and WIN (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?364946-Ron-Paul-Supporters-in-Oklahoma-Fight-Back-and-WIN)
*St. Charles County Confessions of a Caucus Subcommittee Chairman (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?368611-VIDEO-BREAKING-St.-Charles-County-Confessions-of-a-Caucus-Subcommittee-Chairman)
Liberty Sells Itself <-- Canvassing Tool (Many Delegates need to gather signatures ;) )
*Liberty Sells Itself [1/3] (http://youtu.be/gr3yEvGOAi8)
*Liberty Sells Itself [2/3] (http://youtu.be/Ra4vksazLec)
*Liberty Sells Itself [3/3] (http://youtu.be/9LOyn-vwfVI)
RealityCheck Ben Swann WXIX
*Santorum supporters in Washington duped into 'Unity Slate' (http://www.fox19.com/story/17291286/reality-check-santorum-supporters-in-washington-duped-into-unity-slate)
*GOP committee attempts to manipulate delegate process in Missouri (http://www.fox19.com/story/17205801/reality-check-gop-committee-attempts-to-manipulate-delegate-process-in-missouri)
*Delegate slates 'illegally' selected in Georgia? (http://www.fox19.com/story/17216091/reality-check-delegate-slates-illegally-selected-in-georgia)
*GOP committee attempts to manipulate delegate process in Missouri (http://www.fox19.com/story/17205801/reality-check-gop-committee-attempts-to-manipulate-delegate-process-in-missouri)

PolicyReader
03-04-2012, 06:43 PM
Audio & Quotes

Audio
*Anonymous St Charles GOP committee member reveals identity, Dokes' phone message (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw4DZUJ5d2M)
*Santorum Delegate Count a Lie? Paul Gaining States? (http://ronpaulrevolution.us/ben-swann-santorum-delegate-count-a-lie-paul-gaining-states/)

Quotes

Uinta County, Wyoming

February 21 and 23
Precinct Caucuses were held to elect delegates to the County Convention and to conduct a straw poll.
Mitt Romney won the straw poll with 65.7% of the votes while Ron Paul came in second with 24.4% (source (http://wygop.org/2012-straw-poll-results/)).

March 10
At the County Convention, 1 National Convention alternate delegate and 14 State Convention delegate positions were up for election.
Ron Paul supporters swept all the delegates! We won the only National Convention alternate delegate and ALL 14 State Convention delegate positions even though Romney won the straw poll in February with 65.7% of the vote!

Lesson Learned
With the help of others, one supporter took charge by reading and re-reading the Uinta County bylaws as well as the Wyoming state bylaws. He spoke to the Uinta County Chairman at length and made sure he knew exactly how the County Convention would be handled. It helped tremendously that the Chairman was willing to help out. The key was also having contact information of all the supporters who became delegates to the County Convention and making sure they all met up days before so that everyone was on the same page. He identified the right number of people to run for the open positions and made sure everyone voted for these supporters only. Understand that there are many well known Romney supporters within the county and none of them got elected to the State Convention. Organization matters and having someone who is willing to sacrifice their time to take the lead is what made the difference in this county.

A recent post on the Jefferson county Iowa thread, reminded me of something a former legislator told our CFL group. One of the most important votes you cast is "adoption of the rules".

Often the rules are very restrictive. They are meant to prevent individual delegates from derailing the agenda.

You will be pressured to adopt the rules quickly. They'll say it is a formality... That these are the rules we have always used, they work just fine. You may be handed the rules and immediately asked to vote on them without being given time to read them. This is all done intentionally, to intimidate new delegates.

PolicyReader
03-04-2012, 06:44 PM
Informational Resources
*Delegate information for ALL 50 states! Wondering about your state? look no further! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?346522-PDF-Delegate-information-for-ALL-50-states!-Wondering-about-your-state-look-no-further!)
*Delegate Training Is Critical!! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?310241-Red-Alert!-Ron-Paul-Delegate-Training-Is-Critical!!&highlight=Roberts+rules+order)
*Have an Alibi if You Plan on Being a Delegate... Here's How (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?369350-Have-an-Alibi-if-You-Plan-on-Being-a-Delegate...-Here-s-How)
*What are the rules to be a Delegate? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?347954-is-there-a-section-to-dedicating-resources-towards-the-Delegate-Process&highlight=Roberts+rules+order)
*Delegate Training for Ron Paul (https://ronpauldelegates.wordpress.com/)
*GOP required reading for delegates (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?361027-GOP-required-reading-for-delegates&p=4182205#post4182205)
*Georgia for Ron Paul (http://ga4ronpaul.com/Resources.aspx)
Roberts Rules of Order
*Roberts Rules of Order (chart) (http://www.jimslaughter.com/robertsrules.htm)
*Roberts Rules of Order (wiki) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert%27s_Rules_of_Order)
*Roberts Rules of Order (video) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?360517-Roberts-Rules-of-Order-Training-Video&highlight=Roberts+rules+order)
*Roberts Rules of Order (online) (http://www.rulesonline.com/index.html)
*Roberts Rules of Order (Quick Reference Book) (http://robertsrules.com/inbrief.html) <-- Book costs money (site not related to me)
*Roberts Rules of Order (pdf) (http://www.portlandonline.com/oni/index.cfm?a=22969&c=29020)
*Roberts Rules of Order (survival tips) (http://www.roberts-rules.com/)

DGambler
03-04-2012, 06:52 PM
Why share this information about yourself before making it to national? Might make it easier for them to spot you as you work through the process.

PolicyReader
03-04-2012, 08:55 PM
Why share this information about yourself before making it to national? Might make it easier for them to spot you as you work through the process.
This is a point, I wouldn't generally advise putting personally identifiable information in online forums.
That being said there are plenty of stories from 2008 as well as general advice and information that can be shared to provide inexperienced delegates and potential delegates with valuable insight :)

ProBlue33
03-04-2012, 09:24 PM
Great idea.
The single greatest small victories ahead of us will be converting unbound delegates, we want to hear those stories.
No longer are we going after the typical GOP voters, but soft delegates...this is the path to win.

PolicyReader
03-11-2012, 03:12 PM
Still expanding on and updating the thread, I know there are stories from 2008 and 2012 that I've missed, if you've read one (or read one) and don't see it listed above please post a link here so that I can update the thread to include it.

Thanks :D

Okie RP fan
03-11-2012, 03:16 PM
Paul supporters reading this thread who aren't delegates but can still become one in their state, this is a reminder to you...

BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

nobody's_hero
03-11-2012, 03:21 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?366314-Getting-ready-to-go-to-a-mass-precinct-meeting

Georgia's small counties had mass precinct meetings one hour before county convention, so I added what I learned from the experience at both in that thread.

MozoVote
03-11-2012, 03:27 PM
A recent post on the Jefferson county Iowa thread, reminded me of something a former legislator told our CFL group. One of the most important votes you cast is "adoption of the rules".

Often the rules are very restrictive. They are meant to prevent individual delegates from derailing the agenda.

You will be pressured to adopt the rules quickly. They'll say it is a formality... That these are the rules we have always used, they work just fine. You may be handed the rules and immediately asked to vote on them without being given time to read them. This is all done intentionally, to intimidate new delegates.

tsai3904
03-11-2012, 04:34 PM
Uinta County, Wyoming

February 21 and 23
Precinct Caucuses were held to elect delegates to the County Convention and to conduct a straw poll.
Mitt Romney won the straw poll with 65.7% of the votes while Ron Paul came in second with 24.4% (source (http://wygop.org/2012-straw-poll-results/)).

March 10
At the County Convention, 1 National Convention alternate delegate and 14 State Convention delegate positions were up for election.
Ron Paul supporters swept all the delegates! We won the only National Convention alternate delegate and ALL 14 State Convention delegate positions even though Romney won the straw poll in February with 65.7% of the vote!

Lesson Learned
With the help of others, one supporter took charge by reading and re-reading the Uinta County bylaws as well as the Wyoming state bylaws. He spoke to the Uinta County Chairman at length and made sure he knew exactly how the County Convention would be handled. It helped tremendously that the Chairman was willing to help out. The key was also having contact information of all the supporters who became delegates to the County Convention and making sure they all met up days before so that everyone was on the same page. He identified the right number of people to run for the open positions and made sure everyone voted for these supporters only. Understand that there are many well known Romney supporters within the county and none of them got elected to the State Convention. Organization matters and having someone who is willing to sacrifice their time to take the lead is what made the difference in this county.

Warmon
03-11-2012, 05:17 PM
Mr. Moderator, I'd like to make a motion to PLEASE MAKE THIS THREAD A STICKY!

PolicyReader
03-11-2012, 06:09 PM
Paul supporters reading this thread who aren't delegates but can still become one in their state, this is a reminder to you...

BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Good call, added to OP.

If anyone can link me a list (or an example so I can compile a list) of the cut off dates for various states please do and I will add that to the OP as well.
There are many supporters who are newer to politics that don't understand this race is ongoing despite it being after Super Tuesday.
Let's help them know there's still time to get involved and make a meaningful impact on the outcome of this race!

PolicyReader
03-11-2012, 06:11 PM
Uinta County, Wyoming

February 21 and 23
Precinct Caucuses were held to elect delegates to the County Convention and to conduct a straw poll.
Mitt Romney won the straw poll with 65.7% of the votes while Ron Paul came in second with 24.4% (source (http://wygop.org/2012-straw-poll-results/)).

March 10
At the County Convention, 1 National Convention alternate delegate and 14 State Convention delegate positions were up for election.
Ron Paul supporters swept all the delegates! We won the only National Convention alternate delegate and ALL 14 State Convention delegate positions even though Romney won the straw poll in February with 65.7% of the vote!

Lesson Learned
With the help of others, one supporter took charge by reading and re-reading the Uinta County bylaws as well as the Wyoming state bylaws. He spoke to the Uinta County Chairman at length and made sure he knew exactly how the County Convention would be handled. It helped tremendously that the Chairman was willing to help out. The key was also having contact information of all the supporters who became delegates to the County Convention and making sure they all met up days before so that everyone was on the same page. He identified the right number of people to run for the open positions and made sure everyone voted for these supporters only. Understand that there are many well known Romney supporters within the county and none of them got elected to the State Convention. Organization matters and having someone who is willing to sacrifice their time to take the lead is what made the difference in this county.

Added to front page, thank you! :)

PolicyReader
03-12-2012, 02:31 PM
I'd also like to add if anyone has stories related to overturning abusive GOP rulings regarding seating delegates etc regardless of if that was done through Roberts Rules, the Courts or something else I'd like to hear about those too. I think they're worth keeping track of. :)

DRFilms
03-12-2012, 05:47 PM
Mr. Moderator, I'd like to make a motion to PLEASE MAKE THIS THREAD A STICKY!

Second

PolicyReader
03-14-2012, 06:02 PM
Looking for more stories et al as conventions progress. Also if anyone has a good link (or would like to write?) a synopsis with a general overview of the delegate process 'caucus to convention' ;)
I know it couldn't be accurate to each states regulations but something simple for those who are totally new to the process

PolicyReader
03-28-2012, 11:27 PM
Updated the front page, still looking for more stories.

Question for the floor, should I add all the info about GA, MO etc?

Crotale
03-29-2012, 04:32 AM
Bump. Please subscribe to this thread, and whenever you log on bump it. It's important

Crotale
03-29-2012, 04:33 AM
Perhaps the banner at the top for Phone for Home should be replaced with a become a delegate banner?

PolicyReader
03-29-2012, 03:21 PM
Perhaps the banner at the top for Phone for Home should be replaced with a become a delegate banner?
Becoming a delegate is key, and it should be a top priority, however I think the banner is best left as is since people from all states can still support the campaign by phoning from home while the opportunities to become a delegate are winnowed as the race goes on.

I really hope people are taking involvement in their local party process seriously, becoming delegates and taking PCO spots as often as possible (if you're not sure about your local area look into it or ask for help, better apply that to assume you can't :) ).
Also anyone who runs into information on the delegate process on this or other sites or in other threads (first hand accounts, detailed descriptions, so fourth) please post links. There's so much information out there I'm certain I'm missing useful things which could be included in this thread.

Crotale
03-30-2012, 10:34 AM
Bump.

jdcole
03-30-2012, 12:41 PM
BAMP.

Also, yes - add info from GA, MO, MA, NV, etc. The more accounts that we have, the clearer picture we have. On top of that, we can devise different strategies based on the individual environments of different precincts/conventions. If the precinct is small and friendly, we have strategy X. If the convention is huge and hostile, we have strategy X. Different strategies for different situations, but having the same desired end state - accumulating the most delegates we can for Dr. Paul, while also having an influence on local/county/state affairs.

DO EET

jdcole
03-30-2012, 12:42 PM
BAMP.

Also, yes - add info from GA, MO, MA, NV, etc. The more accounts that we have, the clearer picture we have. On top of that, we can devise different strategies based on the individual environments of different precincts/conventions. If the precinct is small and friendly, we have strategy X. If the convention is huge and hostile, we have strategy X. Different strategies for different situations, but having the same desired end state - accumulating the most delegates we can for Dr. Paul, while also having an influence on local/county/state affairs.

DO EET

soulcyon
03-30-2012, 01:56 PM
i cant +rep you enough xD

Crotale
03-30-2012, 02:18 PM
Ahem.....................bump.

PolicyReader
03-30-2012, 02:56 PM
I occurs to me that I should mention when I update the OPs. So... I've done several updates (sorry I'm running a little late with the word on that :o )

Crotale
03-30-2012, 02:57 PM
I occurs to me that I should mention when I update the OPs. So... I've done several updates (sorry I'm running a little late with the word on that :o )

No problem, you're doing a great (and important) job. Nice work. :)

Bilgefisher
03-30-2012, 03:54 PM
Just wanted to share something 2nd hand from a friends county. I have a co-worker who is in his 60's. He was a delegate to attend the county convention in Jefferson County, CO. (SW Denver suburbs. Pop 530k). He is not a Ron Paul supporter (as much as I tried to persuade him) but rather a supporter of any one who could beat Obama. He was given no instructions when to show up, but was told the event would be last Saturday. He showed up a bit late and refused entry. He was told when he arrived that everyone had to be in there seat at 9am to or would be refused entry. He tells me he was never informed a time before hand.

He later called up some of the county reps and complained about the lack of information. They said he would be included on future emails. He is very disappointed on how poorly things have been handled so far. My friend still believes he will be a state delegate (although I'm not sure how, others with a bit more knowledge of the process may know).

Either way, from what I gather, its not entirely a "exclude Ron Paul" thing. Its a combination of incompetence and good ol boys club. Many county club's members seem to have its their quirks and own preferences who should be represented and will do what it takes to exclude anyone else they deem as non members. A bit tin foil hat on my part, but its hard to argue with the complaints from dozens of separate counties with different candidates being the beneficiary. All in all, I thank all the folks who record events and encourage transparency. While I want Ron Paul to win, I am very thankful we have not seen any Ron Paul supporters stoop to that level. I would rather have honest elections. I feel we are far from that right now.

Crotale
03-31-2012, 03:44 AM
:)

PolicyReader
04-02-2012, 05:30 PM
More updates made.

PolicyReader
04-04-2012, 04:40 PM
updates

soulcyon
04-05-2012, 12:45 PM
<3333333

PolicyReader
04-05-2012, 03:56 PM
some more updates, maybe even more tonight if I have the time

also please still feel free to link more stories here, I'm sure I'm still missing many and I would like to make this resource as complete as possible :)

Crotale
04-07-2012, 02:22 PM
Bump.

PolicyReader
04-07-2012, 02:50 PM
This is not a story, this is current as of 4/7/2012 PLEASE respond if you know anyone.


UPDATE: If you are in Vermont please contact me via PM, or
Paul Dame
Essex Junction, VT
802-318-7544
paul_E_D@hotmail.com

We need to hear from our people in Vermont ASAP. Please if you or any Paul supporter you know has friends/family in Vermont there are DELEGATES at stake.

RPF'ers please keep this thread on the first page until Monday.

ClydeCoulter
04-07-2012, 03:17 PM
This is not a story, this is current as of 4/7/2012 PLEASE respond if you know anyone.

UPDATE: If you are in Vermont please contact me via PM, or
Paul Dame
Essex Junction, VT
802-318-7544
paul_E_D@hotmail.com

We need to hear from our people in Vermont ASAP. Please if you or any Paul supporter you know has friends/family in Vermont there are DELEGATES at stake.

RPF'ers please keep this thread on the first page until Monday.

Keep this as PRIORITY on the Top Of The Forum List.

John F Kennedy III
04-07-2012, 03:45 PM
bump

PolicyReader
04-07-2012, 10:49 PM
This is not a story, this is current as of 4/7/2012 PLEASE respond if you know anyone.


UPDATE: If you are in Vermont please contact me via PM, or
Paul Dame
Essex Junction, VT
802-318-7544
paul_E_D@hotmail.com

We need to hear from our people in Vermont ASAP. Please if you or any Paul supporter you know has friends/family in Vermont there are DELEGATES at stake.

RPF'ers please keep this thread on the first page until Monday.

repost here so it's visible on this page.

PolicyReader
04-12-2012, 01:15 AM
anyone with stories from MO to share? :)

PolicyReader
04-14-2012, 03:34 PM
Updates made :)

PolicyReader
04-17-2012, 03:21 PM
Bump for input :)

ninepointfive
04-17-2012, 03:26 PM
shared this on Facebook. Hopefully it helps!

https://www.facebook.com/RonPaulDelegates2012

PolicyReader
04-17-2012, 06:28 PM
Dear fellow Ron Paul supporters in the 9th District,

I wanted to "debrief" everyone on the things that happened at today's 9th District GOP Convention. I want to do this, first of all, to thank you for being a part of it -- I was very, very proud of how we conducted ourselves today. But second of all, to encourage you -- some of you don't realize just how good we did.

I've had several people ask me, "What happened? Why didn't we challenge their slate from the floor? What happened to a vote on Convention Chair? Why didn't we fight?

Let me make this perfectly clear:

NO ONE WANTED A FIGHT MORE THAN ME. I was ready to fire off all rounds today. You see, many of you don't know this, but I have burned my bridges in this State; I used to be part of the "establishment" myself at one time, but because of my support of Ron Paul, I am now one of the most-hated men by the Georgia GOP, from the State Party down to District and County parties. So I don't care any more; there's no going back for me, so I was ready to empty both barrels.

So why didn't I? Why didn't WE?

Because the simple fact is: WE DID NOT HAVE THE NUMBERS.

I told you for the last couple of weeks that, if we had near-100% turnout, we could run the convention. But, a bunch of our people - many with legitimate excuses - did not come. And our motion to get all of our alternates moved up to delegate, which would not have given us a majority but could have made it much closer, was rejected out of hand by the Parliamentarian, who pointed out the State rule that disallowed it (in their interpretation, which would have taken 2/3 to overrule).

Once the Ron Paul Leadership figured out we didn't have the numbers, we made the strategic decision to not challenge their slate from the floor, since we would have needed a lot of establishment people to come to our side for each one. I say strategic, because they were EXPECTING us to cause a LOT of trouble... but we didn't, which gave us some unexpectedly good results. For example, Ron Johnson (the short guy at the front who chaired the Nominating Committee, and who tries to overcompensate for his obvious shortcomings by bragging about being a former cop and former military and other assorted BS) came up to me before the convention, grabbed me, and told me he was threatening me with being hauled off by the cops if we disrupted anything. I responded that he was full of crap, that he didn't have a clue what he was talking about, and that I was threatening HIM with having his entire slate disqualified if they violated a single rule. Which, by the way, they did... but that's another story. The point is, I also heard from several other sources that the District GOP was expecting a very very unruly crowd of Ron Paul supporters today.

But when we didn't cause all that trouble they were expecting, many of them came up to our people afterwards and made many positive comments. As a result, I've already been hearing about how several county GOPs are wanting to work WITH our people now, and move them up the ranks quickly in the party. The fact is, because we didn't have the numbers, we couldn't have won, and because the State GOP had actually implemented a new rule, they didn't even have to have a vote for Convention Chair that we wanted to try for; but because of the strategic decision we made based on our numbers, we set up our people in the county parties for good stuff in the near future, including getting nominated at the State Convention next month to go to Tampa in August. Yes, that's happening, too.

AND, to top it all off, we got one of our people elected as an Alternate, another Alternate who is a closet Paul supporter and will vote for him at Tampa, and a Delegate who specifically told one of our people afterwards that she supports Paul -- even though she isn't on any of our lists.

In other words, we still took half the slate today! Combined with results we're hearing from other Districts around Georgia, some who did well and some who took some hits, Sue Everhart's promise that "not one single Ron Paul supporter will make it as a delegate or alternate to Tampa" has already fallen flat -- and we are making plans so that she'll fall even flatter at the State Convention, too.

Overall, this was a difficult day, because we came itching for a fight we thought we could win -- but because of very strategic reasoning on the part of Leadership, we didn't get to fight it, yet still took half the slate. I call that not too shabby, and I'm INCREDIBLY PROUD of our people who took the time to participate today. THE ESTABLISHMENT SAW THAT -- and I can tell you, they respect that we had those kinds of numbers, even if some of them don't like it.

I'm proud of y'all, and of our leadership team. Now, let's gear up for the State GOP Convention -- where the plans being put in place could change everything for us in Georgia, both for this delegate process, and for our future involvement in the GA GOP. THIS IS GOING TO BE EXCITING!

THANK YOU again, so very very much, for all you've done and continue to do to get Ron Paul elected President! SEE YOU IN COLUMBUS NEXT MONTH! :-)

Bill Greene
9th District Co-Coordinator
Georgia for Ron Paul

Quoted here because I don't trust facebook to maintain information properly. (I'll spare you all the rant lol)

drummergirl
04-17-2012, 09:32 PM
I've been going to conventions for awhile now. The most important things you can do are 1) SHOW UP - get your people there; set up a baby sitting pool if need be for young moms, make the emails, texts, phone calls, and get them to the meeting. 2) KNOW THE RULES - read your state party rules ahead, get on the rules committee if you can. And know RRO. Especially how to vacate the chair if you have any anticipation of a real fight.

If you don't have the numbers and you don't know the rules you will not succeed at taking over the meeting. You must have both. If they see that only one guy knows the rules, even if you have the numbers, they could make an end run to get him/her kicked out by the sargent at arms. So you need more than 1 person versed in the rules.

If you can't take over the meeting, don't tip your hand as a Ron Paul supporter needlessly. Do what you can to get on the delegate list; especially emphasize your desire to see Obama out. Catch more flies with honey than vinegar...

If possible, go to republican club events before the convention. Google "republican" and your city/county/ state and find your local pachyderm club, republican club, republican women's club, etc. and go to their events. These are usually some sort of monthly get together at a local restaurant or sometimes they'll have a barbecue fundraiser or something (these are usually pretty accessible, like $20 a plate type of things). Go; introduce yourself and express interest in getting rid of Obama. You might even meet some other Ron Paul supporters. Learn about the local races and candidates and get involved. If you learn they need help with the local convention (even if it's just the refreshments committee), volunteer to help out.

Nominations committees are looking to send delegates that will go to the next level convention and return to strengthen and work with the local party. If you are not seen as a team player, you won't get a spot. That doesn't mean you can't be a Paul supporter and get a spot, but they have to have some reason to expect you'll be around to get out the vote, run the party headquarters, put up and take down signs, etc.

NDGirl1959
04-18-2012, 10:26 AM
I just posted the 'RP delegates were intimidated and harassed at the RNC (stories from 2008)' to the RP CO FB page asking the CO Campaign Staff to prepare our CO National Delegates for the severe tactics being used by the RNC at '08 Convention. Reading this reinforced why McCain always gave me the willies when I seen and/or heard him speak. Right out of the Adolf Hitler playbook.

PolicyReader
04-23-2012, 04:18 PM
I've been going to conventions for awhile now. The most important things you can do are 1) SHOW UP - get your people there; set up a baby sitting pool if need be for young moms, make the emails, texts, phone calls, and get them to the meeting. 2) KNOW THE RULES - read your state party rules ahead, get on the rules committee if you can. And know RRO. Especially how to vacate the chair if you have any anticipation of a real fight.

If you don't have the numbers and you don't know the rules you will not succeed at taking over the meeting. You must have both. If they see that only one guy knows the rules, even if you have the numbers, they could make an end run to get him/her kicked out by the sargent at arms. So you need more than 1 person versed in the rules.

If you can't take over the meeting, don't tip your hand as a Ron Paul supporter needlessly. Do what you can to get on the delegate list; especially emphasize your desire to see Obama out. Catch more flies with honey than vinegar...

If possible, go to republican club events before the convention. Google "republican" and your city/county/ state and find your local pachyderm club, republican club, republican women's club, etc. and go to their events. These are usually some sort of monthly get together at a local restaurant or sometimes they'll have a barbecue fundraiser or something (these are usually pretty accessible, like $20 a plate type of things). Go; introduce yourself and express interest in getting rid of Obama. You might even meet some other Ron Paul supporters. Learn about the local races and candidates and get involved. If you learn they need help with the local convention (even if it's just the refreshments committee), volunteer to help out.

Nominations committees are looking to send delegates that will go to the next level convention and return to strengthen and work with the local party. If you are not seen as a team player, you won't get a spot. That doesn't mean you can't be a Paul supporter and get a spot, but they have to have some reason to expect you'll be around to get out the vote, run the party headquarters, put up and take down signs, etc.
Thanks for contributing :)


I just posted the 'RP delegates were intimidated and harassed at the RNC (stories from 2008)' to the RP CO FB page asking the CO Campaign Staff to prepare our CO National Delegates for the severe tactics being used by the RNC at '08 Convention. Reading this reinforced why McCain always gave me the willies when I seen and/or heard him speak. Right out of the Adolf Hitler playbook.
Glad it was helpful, thank you for spreading the information.

PolicyReader
04-23-2012, 04:21 PM
few more updates