I swear to God...

[wgadget]

If Ron Paul wins Washington state, I'm moving there. :cool:

[ross11988]

If Ron Paul wins Washington state, I'm moving there. :cool:

Too many casinos lol. I wouldn't last too long

[kathy88]

Too many casinos lol. I wouldn't last too long

There are casinos? I'm in :) :)

[ross11988]

There are casinos? I'm in :) :)

Yeah I believe there's casino everywhere. I remember watching something where you can have casinos in bowling alleys in Washington.

[jllundqu]

What are our chances in WA? I am hearing polls saying RP, ROmney, Santorum... what is the word on the street about this caucus?

[justatrey]

What are our chances in WA? I am hearing polls saying RP, ROmney, Santorum... what is the word on the street about this caucus?

This one is incredibly hard to predict, because noone is sure what the turnout will be. Paul could finish anywhere from first (assuming votes are counted fairly) to third. It seems like the consensus is that we have a shot, but noone is expecting a landslide victory. If we win I'm sure it will be very close.

[Jeremy]

I heard there's no sun in Washington.

[kathy88]

Yeah I believe there's casino everywhere. I remember watching something where you can have casinos in bowling alleys in Washington.

Casinos AND bowling? If they have pork rinds I'm moving.

[Evangelical_Protestant]

I spent some time in Washington. I spent two years there. I never imagined a Ron Paul type community, I was on the peninsula for two years next to olympic national park, in kitsap county. I guess I could picture a liberal type of libertarianism [if that exists], like a welfare type libertarianism maybe? Or maybe I was just in a liberal area. I hope he wins there, would be a win with nice timing.

[Liberty74]

If Ron Paul wins Washington state, I'm moving there. :cool:

They don't have a state income tax, right?

[slamhead]

Too many casinos lol. I wouldn't last too long

Casinos with real crap tables unlike the indian craps here in California?

[WilliamShrugged]

I'd prefer you guys move to Idaho. Don't know how Ron will do here but turnout at his events went well here and i have only seen Ron Paul signs when driving around. Plus Ron has quite a few endorsements here and the state votes Republican. I've also heard it has some of the freest homeschooling laws and ranks high on economic freedom.

[No Free Beer]

If Ron Paul wins Washington state, I'm moving there. :cool:

Do you have any reason to believe that this could be the case?

[No Free Beer]

I heard there's no sun in Washington.

Perfect for you, downer.

[PolicyReader]

I'd prefer you guys move to Idaho. Don't know how Ron will do here but turnout at his events went well here and i have only seen Ron Paul signs when driving around. Plus Ron has quite a few endorsements here and the state votes Republican. I've also heard it has some of the freest homeschooling laws and ranks high on economic freedom.

Also Paul will very likely outperform the poll as there are quite a few supporters (anecdotal evidence) that are not usual participants in the voting process (meaning I know several who Paul motivated to be involved and GOTV come the Idaho Caucus that haven't voted before or haven't voted in years).

[Ranger29860]

Casinos AND bowling? If they have pork rinds I'm moving.

Apparently they do not only have Pork Rinds but actually have killer pork rinds :P

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012341907_apwaporkrindcrash.html

[Sola_Fide]

The ones who count the votes will never let Ron Paul win.

[Karsten]

Yeah I believe there's casino everywhere. I remember watching something where you can have casinos in bowling alleys in Washington.
??????????????? Nevada is the only state that casinos are legal outside of special areas like Atlantic City and Indian lands.

[Ranger29860]

??????????????? Nevada is the only state that casinos are legal outside of special areas like Atlantic City and Indian lands..

http://www.americancasinoguide.com/casinos-by-state/washington-casinos.html

Apparently not

[affa]

They don't have a state income tax, right?

I don't think so? They have a sales tax, though us Oregonian's are exempt from it with ID (we don't have a sales tax).

[Karsten]

"Nevada is the only state where casino-style gambling is legal statewide. Both state and local governments impose licensing and zoning restrictions. All other states that allow casino-style gambling restrict it to small geographic areas (e.g., Atlantic City, New Jersey or Tunica, Mississippi), or to Native American reservations, some of which are located in or near large cities."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_the_United_States#Legal_issues

[Karsten]

.

http://www.americancasinoguide.com/casinos-by-state/washington-casinos.html

Apparently not

"There are 28 Indian casinos operating in Washington and they all have compacts with the state allowing them to offer table games, as well as electronic ‘scratch’ ticket games which use a finite number of tickets with a predetermined number of winners and losers."

Indian Casinos are in many states. What's so special?

And then it says Card Rooms are legal, as they are here in California, which are not real "casinos." If they were, people wouldn't drive 100 miles to a good Indian Casino.

[Ranger29860]

"There are 28 Indian casinos operating in Washington and they all have compacts with the state allowing them to offer table games, as well as electronic ‘scratch’ ticket games which use a finite number of tickets with a predetermined number of winners and losers."

Indian Casinos are in many states. What's so special?

And then it says Card Rooms are legal, as they are here in California, which are not real "casinos." If they were, people wouldn't drive 100 miles to a good Indian Casino.

I don't see where it says they are all indian casino's? Also there are towns in nevada that do not allow gambling. Trying to find a good source to link you since wikipedia is the worst source that you could ever use on the internet.

[y0kkles]

It would be good if they went for Paul, but it's still a state infested with liberals and hipster types.

[Sullivan*]

I don't know about anywhere else, but gambling's legal in Montana... For fucks sake, there's a FUNERAL HOME WITH A VIDEO POKER MACHINE IN HELENA.

[Shane Harris]

The ones who count the votes will never let Ron Paul win.

yep. no one should be getting there hopes up, just to get beaten down again. work hard but don't bank on a win.

[Orgoonian]

Anywhere in the Northwest is good,although Oregon is the best:p

The state of Jefferson WILL rise again!

[newbitech]

If Ron Paul wins Washington state, I'm moving there. :cool:

heh, you know I have had this idea in the back of my mind to move to any state that RP wins.

[Schiff_FTW]

heh, you know I have had this idea in the back of my mind to move to any state that RP wins.

4.5% of the total state population voted for him in New Hampshire, no other state has come close so far.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?360037-Percentage-of-total-state-population-voting-for-Ron-Paul-compared

[newbitech]

4.5% of the total state population voted for him in New Hampshire, no other state has come close so far.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?360037-Percentage-of-total-state-population-voting-for-Ron-Paul-compared

I have the 2008 results.. Check it out. This is sorted by the % pop for Ron Paul. I had my eye on Montana since I was in my early 20's =)



State or territory
Census
population
4/1/2010
Turnout
Ron
Paul
Votes
Ron
Paul
%
% pop
turn
out
% pop
Ron
Paul
% of Ron Paul
Vote


MT
989,415
94,789
20,452
21.58%
9.58%
2.07%
1.69%


ID
1,567,582
125,570
29,785
23.72%
8.01%
1.90%
2.46%


NH
1,316,470
234,851
18,308
7.80%
17.84%
1.39%
1.51%


OR
3,831,074
349,914
51,100
14.60%
9.13%
1.33%
4.22%


SD
814,180
60,954
10,072
16.52%
7.49%
1.24%
0.83%


PA
12,702,379
815,364
129,246
15.85%
6.42%
1.02%
10.68%


NE
1,826,341
135,712
17,647
13.00%
7.43%
0.97%
1.46%


NM
2,059,179
110,814
15,551
14.03%
5.38%
0.76%
1.29%


WA
6,724,540
529,932
40,539
7.65%
7.88%
0.60%
3.35%


MI
9,883,640
869,293
54,475
6.27%
8.80%
0.55%
4.50%


TN
6,346,105
553,005
31,026
5.61%
8.71%
0.49%
2.56%


IN
6,483,802
412,745
31,699
7.68%
6.37%
0.49%
2.62%


OH
11,536,504
1,045,624
55,690
5.33%
9.06%
0.48%
4.60%


MO
5,988,927
588,720
26,464
4.50%
9.83%
0.44%
2.19%


VT
625,741
39,843
2,635
6.61%
6.37%
0.42%
0.22%


NC
9,535,483
517,583
37,260
7.20%
5.43%
0.39%
3.08%


IA
3,046,355
119,188
11,841
9.93%
3.91%
0.39%
0.98%


AR
2,915,918
229,153
10,983
4.79%
7.86%
0.38%
0.91%


AZ
6,392,017
541,035
22,692
4.19%
8.46%
0.36%
1.88%


IL
12,830,632
899,422
45,055
5.01%
7.01%
0.35%
3.72%


SC
4,625,364
445,677
16,155
3.62%
9.64%
0.35%
1.33%


CA
37,253,956
2,932,811
125,365
4.27%
7.87%
0.34%
10.36%


WI
5,686,986
402,699
19,090
4.74%
7.08%
0.34%
1.58%


FL
18,801,310
1,949,498
62,887
3.23%
10.37%
0.33%
5.20%


AK
710,231
13,703
2,363
17.24%
1.93%
0.33%
0.20%


MD
5,773,552
320,989
19,196
5.98%
5.56%
0.33%
1.59%


UT
2,763,885
296,061
8,846
2.99%
10.71%
0.32%
0.73%


WV
1,852,994
117,945
5,914
5.01%
6.37%
0.32%
0.49%


AL
4,779,736
552,155
14,810
2.68%
11.55%
0.31%
1.22%


ND
672,591
9,743
2,082
21.37%
1.45%
0.31%
0.17%


KY
4,339,367
197,793
13,427
6.79%
4.56%
0.31%
1.11%


NJ
8,791,894
566,201
27,184
4.80%
6.44%
0.31%
2.25%


OK
3,751,351
335,054
11,183
3.34%
8.93%
0.30%
0.92%


GA
9,687,653
963,541
28,096
2.92%
9.95%
0.29%
2.32%


VA
8,001,024
489,252
21,999
4.50%
6.11%
0.27%
1.82%


TX
25,145,561
1,362,322
66,360
4.87%
5.42%
0.26%
5.48%


DE
897,934
50,237
2,131
4.24%
5.59%
0.24%
0.18%


NV
2,700,551
44,324
6,087
13.73%
1.64%
0.23%
0.50%


NY
19,378,102
670,078
40,113
5.99%
3.46%
0.21%
3.31%


MA
6,547,629
500,550
13,251
2.65%
7.64%
0.20%
1.09%


LA
4,533,372
156,101
8,590
5.50%
3.44%
0.19%
0.71%


MN
5,303,925
62,828
9,852
15.68%
1.18%
0.19%
0.81%


MS
2,967,297
143,286
5,510
3.85%
4.83%
0.19%
0.46%


CT
3,574,097
151,604
6,287
4.15%
4.24%
0.18%
0.52%


RI
1,052,567
26,996
1,777
6.58%
2.56%
0.17%
0.15%


CO
5,029,196
70,229
5,910
8.42%
1.40%
0.12%
0.49%


KS
2,853,118
19,133
2,182
11.40%
0.67%
0.08%
0.18%


ME
1,328,361
5,491
1,002
18.25%
0.41%
0.08%
0.08%


HI
1
0
0
#DIV/0!
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%


WY
1
0
0
#DIV/0!
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%

[ross11988]

??????????????? Nevada is the only state that casinos are legal outside of special areas like Atlantic City and Indian lands.

What? I have a casino 3 min away from and Im in the Poconos PA. Casinos are all over the place now.

[ross11988]

Casinos with real crap tables unlike the indian craps here in California?

What kind of craps tables to the Indian casinos have? Field bets only? lol

[jamezelle]

"Nevada is the only state where casino-style gambling is legal statewide. Both state and local governments impose licensing and zoning restrictions. All other states that allow casino-style gambling restrict it to small geographic areas (e.g., Atlantic City, New Jersey or Tunica, Mississippi), or to Native American reservations, some of which are located in or near large cities."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_the_United_States#Legal_issues

they're legal in ohio now....

[slamhead]

What kind of craps tables to the Indian casinos have? Field bets only? lol

You have all the same bets available. The Indian craps are decided by the flip of two cards out of a 36 card deck. You still roll the dice (a blue and red dice). Which ever dice is higher, blue or red, determines what color card is turned over. The cards have pictures of dice pairs on them. They go by the values on the cards. They try to say the odds are the same but they really are not as it takes out the randomness of someone on a hot rolling streak. I played once and swore I would never play indian craps again when craps was "rolled" seven times in a row right after the point was set. The seventh time....thinking it could not happen again I bet heavier....bam. Craps again. Everyone at the table walked away after that.

[sailingaway]

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/212/0/3/Derailed_thread_by_StareOfGreed.jpg

[anewvoice]

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/212/0/3/Derailed_thread_by_StareOfGreed.jpg

LOL

[Feelgood]

If Ron Paul wins Washington state, I'm moving there. :cool:

Congrats on not having to move. :-)

[ross11988]

You have all the same bets available. The Indian craps are decided by the flip of two cards out of a 36 card deck. You still roll the dice (a blue and red dice). Which ever dice is higher, blue or red, determines what color card is turned over. The cards have pictures of dice pairs on them. They go by the values on the cards. They try to say the odds are the same but they really are not as it takes out the randomness of someone on a hot rolling streak. I played once and swore I would never play indian craps again when craps was "rolled" seven times in a row right after the point was set. The seventh time....thinking it could not happen again I bet heavier....bam. Craps again. Everyone at the table walked away after that.

Is there a reason why they do this instead of regular craps?

[slamhead]

Is there a reason why they do this instead of regular craps?

Because the indians have to comply with existing California gambling laws. One of the laws is that dice cannot determine the outcome of a game. Basically we have what is called parimutuel gaming laws in CA. The house has a predetermined take on any bet and they are not interested in someone losing or winning. Like the lottery and horse racing the percentage to the house is predetermined. Things have become more relaxed and it is not entirely just parimutuel but they have made it so the published odds are more precise.

[wgadget]

Erm...Maybe Alaska?