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cindy25
02-20-2012, 11:50 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2012/02/21/billionaire-sheldon-adelson-says-he-might-give-100m-to-newt-gingrich-or-other-republican/

BamaAla
02-20-2012, 11:52 PM
Holy cow.

thoughtomator
02-20-2012, 11:54 PM
that would certainly be a wildcard

BamaAla
02-20-2012, 11:55 PM
that would certainly be a wildcard

A real game changer.

alucard13mmfmj
02-20-2012, 11:56 PM
As long as Newt doesnt attack Ron Paul with ads with the money =P

Tunink
02-21-2012, 12:01 AM
This will be newts third party money to run against Ron when Ron gets the nom through a brokered convention.

Vanilluxe
02-21-2012, 02:39 AM
A real game changer.

You could actually run a general election with that amount of dole. His pac will probably make lots of hit videos on all of his opponents including Ron Paul for revenge.

cindy25
02-21-2012, 04:40 AM
This will be newts third party money to run against Ron when Ron gets the nom through a brokered convention.

Newt would take as many votes from Obama as from Ron.

asurfaholic
02-21-2012, 05:42 AM
Newt would take as many votes from Obama as from Ron.

Really? Sarcastic? I thought dems HATED newt..

qh4dotcom
02-21-2012, 07:01 AM
Bad news from Adelson



“If Ron Paul is chosen I certainly wouldn’t do that.”

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-21-2012, 07:07 AM
Adelson's whole shtick is Israel, of course he isn't going to give money to an American-Firster like Paul. What Adelson is doing is buying the USG to be a pawn for Israel. It should be treason, but whatever.

thoughtomator
02-21-2012, 07:22 AM
What Adelson is doing is buying the USG to be a pawn for Israel. It should be treason, but whatever.

I concur. It is indicative of the degradation of US morale that someone can in-your-face attempt to buy our government for the benefit of a foreign one.

Student Of Paulism
02-21-2012, 07:42 AM
Ffs, every week its 'Billionaire Adeloson gives Newt another billion' or whatever. Why doesnt he just marry Newt already and get it over with :rolleyes: Does he honestly think this money is gonna do him any good? Perry had tons too and look how far it got him.

Darthbrooklyn
02-21-2012, 08:16 AM
He wouldnt pick Ron because god forbid Israel takes care of themselves.. how loony an idea..

RonRules
02-21-2012, 08:22 AM
It's not just about Israel, but also about preventing Romney from winning. Mormons oppose gambling, remember.

No Free Beer
02-21-2012, 08:54 AM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2012/02/21/billionaire-sheldon-adelson-says-he-might-give-100m-to-newt-gingrich-or-other-republican/

sailingaway
02-21-2012, 08:58 AM
I saw a write up on this, maybe this one. He's basically saying to the GOP 'I'll give you $100 million so long as you don't nominate Ron Paul'.

Talk about blatant buying of an election....

brushfire
02-21-2012, 08:58 AM
pure evil

steph3n
02-21-2012, 09:05 AM
If I were Ron Paul I'd call him up and ask for a one on one chat, RP would be the best for his beloved Israel, and by far the best for his businesses. Sometimes you can win over the adversary by taking it to them personally.

bluesc
02-21-2012, 09:06 AM
We can always find 24 more Peter Theils to match this guy.

$100M is peanuts in a general election. I'm sure Paul could go it without him.

steph3n
02-21-2012, 09:07 AM
We can always find 24 more Peter Theils to match this guy.

$100M is peanuts in a general election. I'm sure Paul could go it without him.

Sure, but winning over one that is bitterly against you is even better :D

sailingaway
02-21-2012, 09:08 AM
We can always find 24 more Peter Theils to match this guy.

$100M is peanuts in a general election. I'm sure Paul could go it without him.

most people who donate like that expect it 'back' one way or another.

Liberty74
02-21-2012, 09:12 AM
Newt is unelectable. His unfavorables nationally are in the 60 percentile range.

Anyone dropping money on the filthy monster is crazy!

flynn
02-21-2012, 09:12 AM
David Koch can counter Adelson.

bluesc
02-21-2012, 09:13 AM
most people who donate like that expect it 'back' one way or another.

Small donors don't.

500,000 x 100 = $50,000,000
100 X $500,000 = $50,000,000

All you need is 500,000 people who don't usually vote or donate, former Obama supporters, etc., and 100 moderately wealthy liberty lovers and Sheldon Adelson can take his Zionist agenda and shove it up his ass.

DEGuy
02-21-2012, 09:13 AM
I hope he donates to Gingrich. Gingrich probably steals more votes from Santorum and Romney than Ron Paul. And he doesn't have an actual chance of winning the nomination.

Cowlesy
02-21-2012, 09:15 AM
most people who donate like that expect it 'back' one way or another.

And Sheldon most certainly does.

No Free Beer
02-21-2012, 09:16 AM
Message > Money

bluesc
02-21-2012, 09:18 AM
Message > Money

Message = Money

No Free Beer
02-21-2012, 09:21 AM
Message = Money

Under the right circumstances, maybe.

That doesn't explain Romney and Gingrich's money.

That's why I put up my equation

bluesc
02-21-2012, 09:24 AM
Under the right circumstances, maybe.

That doesn't explain Romney and Gingrich's money.

That's why I put up my equation

Promises + Party Loyalty = Money

There, that explains theirs.

People donate to Paul to promote the message of liberty.

ross11988
02-21-2012, 09:29 AM
If I were Ron Paul I'd call him up and ask for a one on one chat, RP would be the best for his beloved Israel, and by far the best for his businesses. Sometimes you can win over the adversary by taking it to them personally.

This guy is a Zionist, he doesn't care about whats best for Israel.

sailingaway
02-21-2012, 09:45 AM
David Koch can counter Adelson.

Koch is a corporatist with a guy on the Fed board who therefor doesn't mind it at all. I think he backs Ron only if he thinks Ron is winning.

However, if he got the nomination, Koch might to some extent. Not 100 million.

Lishy
02-21-2012, 10:21 AM
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Lishy
02-21-2012, 10:23 AM
Bad news from Adelson

Well screw him.

Obviously Adelson is just another lobbyist who the Israelis themselves protested against during the Summer of 2011. If he truly cared about Israel, he would side with their people, and give them independence!

gerryb
02-21-2012, 10:40 AM
We can always find 24 more Peter Theils to match this guy.

$100M is peanuts in a general election. I'm sure Paul could go it without him.

Peter Theil is estimated at $1.5B - Adelson at $24B -- Adelson is equal to Koch or Soros as far as dollars go -- his political influence is just in the open, like the article states... Rather then setting up hundreds of not-for profits, foundations, corporations etc. to funnel the money through.

Lishy
02-21-2012, 10:44 AM
I don't care whether or not he's Jewish. His stance on Israel is hypocritical because he's the establishment they were protesting AGAINST throughout July and August of 2011!

If he's soooooooooo damn concerned about Israel that there must be "Anyone but Paul", then why the heck NOT elect Paul, and get rid of the lobbyists and war profiteers in Israel who exploit the people!?

EaSy
02-21-2012, 10:48 AM
It's not just about Israel, but also about preventing Romney from winning. Mormons oppose gambling, remember.

I guess, Santorum also appose gambling as a imorality. :)

UtahApocalypse
02-21-2012, 11:02 AM
Did he forget this:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/Utah4RonPaul/Ron%20Paul%20-%202012/Adelson2.png

KingNothing
02-21-2012, 11:40 AM
Message = Money

So, therefore, Time = Message?

Lishy
02-21-2012, 12:04 PM
What does that graph represent?

UtahApocalypse
02-21-2012, 12:06 PM
What does that graph represent?

The results of Adelson's "Special Caucus" in NV

kathy88
02-21-2012, 12:29 PM
I saw a write up on this, maybe this one. He's basically saying to the GOP 'I'll give you $100 million so long as you don't nominate Ron Paul'.

Talk about blatant buying of an election....

Damn. I was hoping you were assuming but the ass actually said it!

SpiritOf1776_J4
02-21-2012, 12:33 PM
Is this even legal? Sheldon is a foreigner - he may have dual citizenship, and owns newspapers in Israel.

Since dual citizenship is a new concept, I don't think the laws about foreign contributions have been tested, but this might be the straw that tests them.

Yoddle
02-21-2012, 12:38 PM
Is this even legal? Sheldon is a foreigner - he may have dual citizenship, and owns newspapers in Israel.

Since dual citizenship is a new concept, I don't think the laws about foreign contributions have been tested, but this might be the straw that tests them.

He was born here though, how is he a foreigner?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson

SpiritOf1776_J4
02-21-2012, 12:54 PM
[QUOTE=Yoddle;4202384]He was born here though, how is he a foreigner?

Traditional law, you give up your citizenship when you become a citizen of another country. They've been overlooking that in recent years, but I doubt a serious court case has been made about it. This would be one.

DerailingDaTrain
02-21-2012, 03:38 PM
How much is Peter Thiel worth compared to this guy?

Aratus
02-21-2012, 04:44 PM
they stare eye to eye and opine
about bill gates & warren buffett?
he has backed newt to the tune
of 20 million, and hints at another
10 to 100 million. FORBES magazine
has the full article wednesday online.

flynn
02-22-2012, 02:57 AM
Koch is a corporatist with a guy on the Fed board who therefor doesn't mind it at all. I think he backs Ron only if he thinks Ron is winning.

However, if he got the nomination, Koch might to some extent. Not 100 million.

I believe the koch brothers had more than a fed lobbyists group in D.C. They are also funding reason tv. I believe. Maybe david koch's strategy is reactionary to corporatism. I still believe David Koch doesn't just pay lip service to libertarianism.

azxd
02-22-2012, 09:17 AM
Is this even legal? Sheldon is a foreigner - he may have dual citizenship, and owns newspapers in Israel.

Since dual citizenship is a new concept, I don't think the laws about foreign contributions have been tested, but this might be the straw that tests them.
That's our biggest problem ... The system is now conditioned to allow for most anything, and if one has the financial backing to challenge what occurs, they might have a day in court that allows for the repeal of what has already happened ... The problem is, it's already happened.

AngelClark
02-22-2012, 11:51 AM
http://exm.nr/x9nECn

I like how Adelson talks about hating when people influence elections and run negative ads - then says everything written about me is a lie... typical Gingrich supporter

opinionatedfool
02-24-2012, 08:36 PM
Grinch will have plenty of money for donuts now.

hipposelect
02-26-2012, 10:47 AM
Really? Sarcastic? I thought dems HATED newt..
Well, so do Republicans. I mean, the guy's already given him $20M and still nobody wants to vote for him.

ctiger2
02-26-2012, 11:36 AM
Adelson's wasting his money. Ron's gonna win this.