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moderate libertarian
02-19-2012, 07:27 PM
Some srange headlines are appearing in today's news.

Top headline on Drudge today:



Saudi Arabia Cuts Oil Output...
Price Pops to $105...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46445698



Obama Says U.S. and Israel March As One

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/obama-says-us-and-israel_b_1259949.html

Obama and Saudi dictators were supposed to be in bed together in case of Israeli Iran attack fever, what happened? Why are they not boosting oil supplies? Did Obama piss off everybody including Saudis, Iranians, Israelis? Israel has not fired a singe bomb at Iran yet and oil is already at $105, where will oil prices be when Isreal, Iran, Iraq, Hezbullah, Syria , Egypt etc actually start aiming their bombs?



1:53 AM Feb 18, 2012

Oil Price Surge Could Dampen Global Recovery
http://www.witn.com/news/headlines/Oil_Price_Surge_Could_Dampen_Global_Recovery_13956 5748.html?ref=748


I still don't think Obama is deliberately trying to harm US economy but his foreign policies defy logic. If he is really being threatened/blackmailed by any foreign lobbies as advocated by media man Andrew Adler, he should take Congress into confidence. Only other explanation comes to mind is he's trying to raise political donations to win next election and dancing to tunes of his puppet matser funders without giving top priority to best interests of US public? Thoughts?

Philosophy_of_Politics
02-19-2012, 08:24 PM
I don't think their plan is to 'destroy.'

Their plan is "Infinite Solvency."

Not just "Solvency."

FrankRep
02-19-2012, 08:30 PM
I refuse to believe Obama is stupid enough to think his progressive policies are actually working, therefore: Yes.

NewRightLibertarian
02-19-2012, 08:36 PM
I refuse to believe Obama is stupid enough to think his progressive policies are actually working, therefore: Yes.

Yeah, he's tanking the country for the bankers. He's aggressively working to bankrupt us all, ruin our rights and destroy the prosperity of Americans

Miss Annie
02-19-2012, 09:01 PM
Yes....... looking for that one world currency.

Lafayette
02-19-2012, 09:29 PM
Is there a difference between Obama's current polices and those of the 8 years before him under G.W. ?

No, there is not.

The people and polices did not change in 2008, only the rhetoric.

FrankRep
02-19-2012, 09:33 PM
Is there a difference between Obama's current polices and those of the 8 years before him under G.W. ?

No, there is not.

The people and polices did not change in 2008, only the rhetoric.

Yep.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/AP-11-2010/2624-cs.jpg



Although former President Bush’s spokespeople have vehemently denied that the President ever said he would have endorsed Obama over McCain if he had been asked, Bush’s statement seems in line with what too few partisan Democrats and Republicans are willing to acknowledge: that differences between former President Bush and President Obama are mostly cosmetic. by Charles Scalinger


Bush and Obama: Standards & Similarities (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/5318-bush-and-obama-standards-a-similarities)


Charles Scaliger | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
30 November 2010

FrankRep
02-19-2012, 09:39 PM
Yes....... looking for that one world currency.

Here it is.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/Econ_9_10/2619-cs.jpg


2010: The Emerging Global Federal Reserve (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/economy/economics-mainmenu-44/4602-the-emerging-global-fed)

As powerful as the Federal Reserve is, just imagine how much more powerful a global Fed would be in terms of its ability to control the global economy and an emerging world currency. By Alex Newman

2010: Waking up to a World Currency (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/economy/economics-mainmenu-44/4591-waking-up-to-a-world-currency)

If global financial elites have their way, America will move quickly toward accepting a planetary fiat currency (a currency not backed by a precious commodity like gold) issued by a world central bank. by Alex Newman

2010: IMF Report Promotes Global Fiat Currency, World Central Bank (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/economy/economics-mainmenu-44/4262-imf-report-promotes-world-currency)

An April report from the International Monetary Fund promoting a world central bank and a global fiat currency went totally undetected by the global press for months, but after a blog post earlier this month, it is now in the media spotlight. By Alex Newman

onlyrp
02-19-2012, 09:42 PM
don't ascribe malice, that which stupidity is suffice.

I don't think he's TRYING to destroy any economy, he most likely either means well, or has selfish intentions and doesn't care about hurting people to acheive them, that's quite different than wanting to cause chaos and suffering for the sake of it.

FrankRep
02-19-2012, 09:45 PM
don't ascribe malice, that which stupidity is suffice.

Obama went to Harvard Law School with a J.D. magna cum laude. He's not stupid.

onlyrp
02-19-2012, 09:50 PM
Obama went to Harvard Law School with a J.D. magna cum laude. He's not stupid.

that's not smart with economy either. Also, he could be completely selfish and careless, that's not the same as wanting to torture his victims for the sake of torturing them.

Miss Annie
02-19-2012, 09:56 PM
that's not smart with economy either. Also, he could be completely selfish and careless, that's not the same as wanting to torture his victims for the sake of torturing them.

It's not torture for simply the sake of torture. It is for the purpose of creating the NWO.

thoughtomator
02-19-2012, 09:57 PM
Obama went to Harvard Law School with a J.D. magna cum laude. He's not stupid.

On the affirmative action plan. He's not as smart as the creds might indicate - notice he didn't actually distinguish himself in any way before being elected President. He's just a reasonably good actor.

onlyrp
02-19-2012, 10:38 PM
It's not torture for simply the sake of torture. It is for the purpose of creating the NWO.

do you think there's a difference between not caring about what happens and actually trying to cause suffering and destruction?

SkarnkaiLW
02-19-2012, 10:43 PM
Education level doesn't necessarily equate with intelligence, and intelligence does not equate with knowledge. Merely the ability to gain knowledge if desired. You can get a JD without studying anything about economics. Just as Einstein was politically a social democrat/socialist. This does not make Einstein dumb, just ignorant, as are we all in one area or knowledge. To accept this is the first step to wisdom.

thelaibon
02-19-2012, 10:47 PM
It's not torture for simply the sake of torture. It is for the purpose of creating the NWO.
Right. Tanking our country to the point of bankruptcy, where we default to the World Banks -- who will basically seek to run not only our country but the economy of the entire world. It's not a fairy-tale, this has been planned for decades.

Miss Annie
02-19-2012, 10:50 PM
do you think there's a difference between not caring about what happens and actually trying to cause suffering and destruction?

I think you may have misunderstood what I was getting at. I was only saying that torture in itself was not the goal, although you are right, they do not care if that is a by product of their goal.

Miss Annie
02-19-2012, 10:51 PM
Right. Tanking our country to the point of bankruptcy, where we default to the World Banks -- who will basically seek to run not only our country but the economy of the entire world. It's not a fairy-tale, this has been planned for decades.

Bang on!

mosquitobite
02-19-2012, 10:53 PM
look up Hegelian Dialectic for your answers

FrankRep
02-19-2012, 10:53 PM
Right. Tanking our country to the point of bankruptcy, where we default to the World Banks -- who will basically seek to run not only our country but the economy of the entire world. It's not a fairy-tale, this has been planned for decades.

Welcome to 1958. :-)


Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy America


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4



Robert Welch, Founder of The John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/), predicted today's problems with uncanny accuracy back in 1958 and prescribed solutions in 1974 that are similar to Tea Party positions today.

wannaberocker
02-20-2012, 01:09 AM
Obama is clueless about very very basic economics. All in all hes so full of himself that when he talks about economic policy in his speeches he says things like "The rich dont need a tax cut, the middle class does. I believe that makes good economic sense". That strikes me as someone who actually believes their own BS.

onlyrp
02-20-2012, 02:14 AM
I think you may have misunderstood what I was getting at. I was only saying that torture in itself was not the goal, although you are right, they do not care if that is a by product of their goal.

I understood that part just fine. I was still asking you a separate question, do you distinguish between not caring about the byproduct, and intentionally causing destruction, suffering, torture?

amonasro
02-20-2012, 02:51 AM
I often wonder what goes on behind closed door meetings with our President, his cabinet and other world leaders.

My best guess is that Obama is a deft politician, however misguided in economics and malleable by his advisers and party. Presidents probably justify their actions to themselves in order to maintain the status quo, which is their status quo too. Or, they are sociopaths and just don't care.

Toureg89
02-20-2012, 04:59 AM
Obama went to Harvard Law School with a J.D. magna cum laude. He's not stupid.
and yet smart people can be indoctrinated and fail to see their own logical inconsistencies...

lest you think many Americans all around us are just as malicious as Obama and secretly agree with his plans to destroy the economy...

Don Lapre
02-20-2012, 05:15 AM
Obama went to Harvard Law School with a J.D. magna cum laude.
lol


So we are told.

ShaneEnochs
02-20-2012, 06:24 AM
Heard of troll science? Obama uses troll economics.