Grassroots v. Grassroots: Barack Obama's Supporters Emulate Ron Paul's

[DrNoZone]

Excerpt:

"Asked whether he was inspired by Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul's supporters, who recently raised $4.2 million in 24 hours, Macchaiah said: "Not really -- I think Ron Paul's people are inspired by what we're doing online."

Are fooking kidding me!? lololol

Full article here: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/11/in-role-reversa.html

[derdy]

:rolleyes:

[werdd]

:rolleyes:

[torchbearer]

:rolleyes:

[OptionsTrader]

Who is Barack Obama?

Oh that other guy that wants to preemptively attack Iran with our nuclear weapons. Aren't there a dozen other candidates like that? :D

[Vvick727]

:rolleyes:

[Richie]

:rolleyes:

[OptionsTrader]

3:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCVeNOD6LGg

[Ncturnal]

http://www.ncturnal.com/smiles/megarolleyes2bw.gif

[inibo]

This is going to be fun.

[Isupportliberty]

http://www.ncturnal.com/smiles/megarolleyes2bw.gif

WINNER!

[ChooseLiberty]

Osama has a plan for private pension funds in the US to divest of all their holdings in Iran. And then bomb, bomb, bomb'em.

LOL


Who is Barack Obama?

Oh that other guy that wants to preemptively attack Iran with our nuclear weapons. Aren't there a dozen other candidates like that? :D

[kalami]

"this isn't about beating Paul, which is why we arbitrarily choose a goal that is just 1m more than Paul"

[nexus7]

Excerpt:

"Asked whether he was inspired by Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul's supporters, who recently raised $4.2 million in 24 hours, Macchaiah said: "Not really -- I think Ron Paul's people are inspired by what we're doing online."

Are fooking kidding me!? lololol

Full article here: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/11/in-role-reversa.html


What exactly is Obama's campaign doing but lagging behind Ron's in all of the meetups and activities. Obama's campaign pushes Racism. His own wife just said something like, "our black people will vote for our man". If that isn't collective racism I don't know what is.

[Midnight77]

ROFLMFAO!!!!

Not quite, Barack. Keep dreaming.

[lemnad]

:rolleyes:

[American]

I'm posting this here because it looks like they are calling us out?

Let not let them down, get out there and promote the Dec 16th, we really need this!!!!!



Illinois senator and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's supporters are hoping that they can best their Republican counterparts' fund-raising prowess online.Barackfriday_2

Girish Manchaiah, a 35-year-old software engineer and Obama supporter in Springboro, Ohio, has set up an online fund-raising deadline of November 16th to raise $5 million.

Asked whether he was inspired by Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul's supporters, who recently raised $4.2 million in 24 hours, Macchaiah said: "Not really -- I think Ron Paul's people are inspired by what we're doing online."

Nevertheless, it's apparent that Ron Paul's recent news-making haul online has touched a competitive nerve within the Democratic grassroots community.

"Backers of the program say if Ron Paul supporters can do it, so can we. Can we really do it?" asked "Diamond," an Obama supporter in Bradenton, Fla. and Dublin, Ireland in a post promoting the November 16 fund-raising drive.

"If a bunch of crazy people can raise $5 million in a day for Ron Paul Matrix rEVOLutions Ayn Rand '08, we should be able to do the same for Obama," wrote "HatchinBrooklyn," at "One Million Strong," a progressive community Weblog dedicated to tracking the conversation and online support for Obama.

The comments echo the admiration (envy of?) for the Paul grassroots' achievement professed recently by many in the liberal blogosphere, including DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas.

Paul's campaign raised $4.2 million November 5 as a result of an online drive organized entirely by his grassroots supporters. (November 5 is Guy Fawkes day in Britain -- the day that the Brits celebrate the foiling of a plot to blow up Parliament and the King by Catholic dissident Guy Fawkes.) The event boosted the candidate's profile on the television networks as well as in print media. (In the meantime, Paul's supporters' aren't resting on their laurels -- grassroots supporter Trevor Lyman has planned another fundraiser for December 16th, this time to coincide with the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.)

Manchaiah said that he and other supporters had originally discussed choosing Thanksgiving as a deadline, but then decided that people would be too busy over the holidays to think about politics. Instead, they choose November 16th -- a day after the CNN televised Democratic debate in Las Vegas, Nev.

Obama supporters are spreading the word through social networking sites such as Facebook, MySpace, Eons and Faithbase. Listservs are also playing a role.

For his part, Manchaiah stresses that this isn't about beating his Ron Paul grassroots counterparts.

"This is our tribute to senator Obama," he says. "This is not about winning something, but about how much more we can do for this campaign."

So far this year, Obama has raised a total of $80.2 million, while Paul has raised a total of $8.3 million, both as of September 30th, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/11/in-role-reversa.html


THIS IS WAR!!!!!

[ronpaulfan]

LOL. what a LOSER! :p

[Ron Paul Fan]

:rolleyes:

[schmeisser]

the average Obama supporter is likely much more concerned about how much money he will give them :D

[ronpaulfan]

If anything, this will get his supporters more curious about Dr. Paul. A BUNCH of them will watch Ron Paul on YouTube then join our effort :D

Stop Dreaming + A New Hope = Obama - 1 supporter

:)

[VRP08]

wow..some people...

but it inspires me to donate even more on the 16th!:D

[Ron Paul Fan]

:rolleyes:

[kylejack]

For his part, Manchaiah stresses that this isn't about beating his Ron Paul grassroots counterparts.

Disclaimer: If we don't beat Ron Paul, that's not what this was about! If we do, that is what this was about. Hahahaha

[Ron Paul Fan]

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Syren123]

EIGHTY MILLION DOLLARS?! FROM WHOM??
$80 million doesn't just appear from regular folks. That's insane fascist money!! Who is holding Obama's puppet strings?!

Oh yeah. If so many happy supporters have ponied up 80 million bills, those copy cats should be able to pull of that fundraiser in their sleep!!

Holy smoke.

[austin356]

I want to battle them soooo sooo freakin' bad.


What if we had a competition b/t RP supporters and BO supporters on the Dec. 16th? If we were directly pitted against the second most popular candidate on either side in a head to head match and won it would be a massive boost.

Sunday Times Front Page in Big Bold:

"Online Titans Square Off Today"


Monday Times Front Page in Big Bold:

"Paul tops Obama in record setting day"

[RonPaulFever]

Fail

[kylejack]

I want to battle them soooo sooo freakin' bad.


What if we had a competition b/t RP supporters and BO supporters on the 16th? If we were directly pitted against the second most popular candidate on either side in a head to head match and won it would be a massive boost.

Sunday Times Front Page in Big Bold:

"Online Titans Square Off Today"


Monday Times Front Page in Big Bold:

"Paul tops Obama in record setting day"

Its too soon. We just blew our load on 11/5 and 11/11. We can't compete with him right now. They can feel free to challenge us on 12/16, though!

[ronpaulfan]

EIGHTY MILLION DOLLARS?! FROM WHOM??
$80 million doesn't just appear from regular folks. That's insane fascist money!! Who is holding Obama's puppet strings?!

Oh yeah. If so many happy supporters have ponied up 80 million bills, those copy cats should be able to pull of that fundraiser in their sleep!!

Holy smoke.

We live in Nazi Germany. Didn't you know?

And when they catch massive amounts of fundraising fraud (like with Hillary's piles of $2300 donations from poor chinatown families) it is just brushed off by the media. They say "oh, when we catch problems, we always return the money" and no heads roll.

Nazi Germany. Seriously.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I bet a lot of his supporters are actually closer to Ron Paul's philosophy lol

[Drknows]

Theres only a few things i dont like about OBAMA, Number one being

i think he can be easily manipulated by anyone around him. Sort of The Manchurian Candidate. His youth is what scares me. I'm willing to bet anyone older and more experienced could sway him into doing something like the current administration has done.

Case in point..... he always answers tough questions with something along the lines of I need to do more research. Meaning I'm waiting for someone to feed me information on how to react.

[American]

WOW, some of the comments on there are pretty inspiring, and I just noticed this is that slunt who wrote the Ronbot piece....


Hello. I'm from Poland. Who is Obama? Didn't know about him anything. Did he played in any movie?

Nah. Kidding. I'm from Poland but I know who he is. He's just a shadow of Ron Paul. People from all around a world are really excited about Ron Paul and the news is spreading rapidly. The global conciesnes of free people is awaken and RP inspires all of us.

God Bless RP, all Americans and all the people who belives in Freedom!


The best form of flattery is emulation. Obama and his people are real trailblazers, unique people like this need to be in leadership positions. The Ron Paul people could learn a few tricks from ol' Barack. This guy, Girish Manchaiah, what a genius!

Ron Paul, smart, original a true leader.

[bbachtung]

Can we get a donor code for all of the soon-to-be-former Obama supporters who will be giving on December 16th? How about donor code "NOBAMA"?

[kylejack]

Hahaha, Poland says Obama Who? I love it.

[austin356]

Its too soon. We just blew our load on 11/5 and 11/11. We can't compete with him right now. They can feel free to challenge us on 12/16, though!



Thats what I meant:D:D:D:D Dec. 16th!

[kylejack]

Thats what I meant:D:D:D:D Dec. 16th!

Oh, well theirs is on 11/16. Tell them to BRING IT on 12/16.

[RonPaulFever]

122 people have signed up so far.

Run to the hills, folks! We're finished.

[Conza88]

:rolleyes:

[Goldwater Conservative]

I wish them the best. Obama is far better than Hillary, in my opinion.

...but I still think we'll end up schooling them. :)

[Cindy]

EIGHTY MILLION DOLLARS?! FROM WHOM??


According to Mike Gravel, it came from "Special Interest" Health Care Lobby pacs, who stand to grow even wealthier if Obama gets in and implements a Universal Health care plan , where they can charge the government/tax payers even more to pay for their drugs and services with.


Obama is a sell out and this thread belongs in the General Politics & Other forum.

[foofighter20x]

LOL... they are idiots!

they are doing this on a Friday?! the reason we got so much free coverage is because we did it on a monday and it got picked up in the tuesday and wedsnesday news cycles... these guys are going to get their story lost in the weekend lull since it won't even be over until after most news offices have closed for the weekend!

dorks!

this is why Dec 16th will work so well for us... it ends sunday night and the story will be ready for the opening of business monday morning. :D

Oh yeah, and tell this to the Obama supporters: Imitation may be a form of flattery, but it's still imitation! :p :D ;)

[American]

Obama is a sell out and this thread belongs in the General Politics & Other forum.

I intentionally posted it here to "motivate" our supporters for this next fund raiser. a Challenge if you will

We have to win here!!!

[Santana28]

okay...which Obama supporter here rated this a 1-star thread? Come out of the closet now ;) We know you're in there!

[navi]

I hope the youth supporting Obama will actually be enough for him to beat Hillary, but I doubt it. During the last election my entire campus backed Kerry but few people actually turned out to vote. I don't think the Democratic message is strong enough to compel them to. The Democrats are basically running on the "I'm not a Republican!" shtick.

[aravoth]

the average Obama supporter is likely much more concerned about how much money he will give them :D

bingo

[NewEnd]

in 4 days, they think they will pull this off? Not likely. good luck, Obamites.

[derdy]

well it was

:rolleyes:

the more i think of it its

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[kylejack]

in 4 days, they think they will pull this off? Not likely. good luck, Obamites.

Obamabomb, they could call it?

[RonPaulFever]

Obamabomb, they could call it?

A Barack O-bomb-a:p

[njandrewg]

actually lets encourage it...their failure will just give us even more coverage.

[derdy]

A Barack O-bomb-a:p

Let's not give them any of our good ideas and slogans lol

[Flirple]

It's an arms race!

[navi]

lol. There's somewhat of a competition between RP supporters and Obama supporters on my campus. Sometimes we have booths set up next to each other and we monitor each other's facebook group to see who has the most members.

I never see Obama signs on campus and on the highways though. Us RP supporters own them in that regard ;)

[derdy]

I'd say we have a substantial lead on them given we are the ones driving a great portion of the campaign.

[frasu]

this should be interesting to see...

also from one of the websites:


Obama Grassroots at work 24x7. In Red, Blue, Purple states and beyond too.

Note: Due to technical limitations the goal cannot be more than $1,000,000. But the goal is to raise $5,000,000 million by the week of Nov 16th. I will talk to campaign HQ to get this fixed.

[HalogenFlood]

$5,000,000 million?! Isn't that, like, 5 quadrillion?

[frasu]

$5,000,000 million?! Isn't that, like, 5 quadrillion?

:D:D... well, I suppose they are really steeping it up.

[kylejack]

$5,000,000 million?! Isn't that, like, 5 quadrillion?

Trillion. ;)

[Corydoras]

EIGHTY MILLION DOLLARS?! FROM WHOM??
$80 million doesn't just appear from regular folks. That's insane fascist money!! Who is holding Obama's puppet strings?!

The entire alumni body of Harvard Law School. And all of their law firm partners. And all of the junior lawyers they all manage in their firms whom they can simply command to donate.

I don't think HLS has had a major presidential candidate come from their ranks in a long time, if ever. Remember, he didn't just go there, he was the president of the law review, an important post-- and furthermore, he was the first African-American president of the law review and thus had extra-high visibility.

[pacelli]

So I don't see the problem really. Other candidates are looking at our zeal for our candidate and are trying to cash in on the internet method of fundraising. But we all knew which supporters came up with that idea first =) I wish them luck raising $5 million with no special interests in a 24 hour period.

[parke]

Last time I checked.. they had 118 people signed up.

I say invite them to challenge our support. There is something about a RP supporter that the MSM doesnt realize. We are supervoters. All of us are voting for our man in the primaries. You can bet on that. They hope to keep the bases placated and in line to vote for the pre-ordained one. Fools.

The trouble is the truth is catching on... With this much time left, RP can make BIG ASS WAVES. Dr. Paul knows that he can call on us. He has been trying his best to save this country from disaster for 30 years. He is smart. He is funny. He is wise. He has a plan to restore our freedom and make peace before we bomb another third world nation.

It makes sense to me. Quit acting like Iran is on our sh*tlist before we negotiate with them. After invading two countries, one under false sh*t that was proven wrong, If your state were invaded on two borders, you would want to protect your state. Thats pretty simple logic. So before we bomb, invade or nuke a country, you would think our leaders would have the balls to negotiate with them. Instead, they are the axis of evil, with no credible knowledge of a f*cking thing, just media spin on justifying actions.

December 16th is going to be a time in modern history that will never be forgotten. I love this country and will die fighting for it. I will only fight under Ron Pauls decleration. He is the only man worth trusting in a government fight. He has served the USA. He has delivered 4000+ children. A man that helps deliver life into the world understands how precious life is. GET IT??? He has never voted for anything that would negativly effect Americans. I urge any American that desires change over rhetoric. Plans over words. A voting record to back up the legislation he will propose...

The only thing that makes Ron Paul a long shot, is lazy Americans that listen to hype instead of learning, and basing an opinion from sound bytes. If you think the neo-cons have a better plan, please explain. The only thing I hear from either side, is the same crap, other than 'Socialist (Universal) Healthcare' If you think healthcare is expensive now'??? Wait until its free.

The government is the reason why healthcare costs are so high. Get the government out of the healthcare business, and companies will be forced to compete for our business. Which one makes more sense? Relying on the government or relying on your self?



The elite think they have us. The internet sets us free from that f*cking TV. What the MSM doesnt realize is that they have an informed, motivated base that loves this country more than the elite than run it. Information is at our fingertips.. and there is nothing that you can do about it. You didnt plan for the internet did you?

All of a sudden we dont need the TV. The big consolidations in entertainment and news suddenly doesnt mean much in the internet age, does it? As long as I can navigate and research, the MSM becomes more meaningless.

If I can go online and research, versus spending my pocket change with you, what do I need you for again? To promote events? Luckily you have the advantage on that end. Circulation matters.. Not in ten years tho.

So this shot is for you, MSM (Main Steam Media) because as long as the internet is free, your days are numbered.

[Minlawc]

I'm not really sure what they're trying to do...

Obama suckles on the media's teet and has tons of money. However much they collect will be insignicant to his campaign...

It seems the only motivation to donate would be to beat Dr. Paul, which is kind of shamefull.

But this may turn out well for Ron Paul in the end, we'll just wait and see.

[devil21]

this should be interesting to see...

also from one of the websites:

Technical limitations? Hahahaha!

Way to make an out for this if it doesnt come close to 5mil.

[derdy]

Technical limitations? Hahahaha!

Way to make an out for this if it doesnt come close to 5mil.

The technical limitations are they don't have spambots like Ron Paul does :p

[couvi]

They will never understand. "IT'S THE MESSAGE!!" Ron Paul's message inspires people in a way that no other can. Organization is a part of it, but the message (and the integrity of the man behind the message) is the bigger part. There are a great number of people who would literally take a bullet for Ron Paul...that's how much people believe in what is going on.

[V-rod]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[angelatc]

The audacity of denial.

[John of Des Moines]

Just don't go posting (elsewhere) any critical or challenging Obama's "grassroots" efforts to raise 5 million. No need to energize those who would otherwise not donate.

I was at the Democratic Jefferson/Jackson Dinner last Saturday, a big Democratic Party thing here in Iowa and Obama had a lot of college students working for him. They were stationed at the interstate overpasses with homemade "revolution" type banners (I did stop at the one downtown and jump out of my vehicle to call them losers for copying RP supporters ideas). And, there was a big presence of students at the event itself. I consider them all having access to a credit card or two and are stupid enough to charge their futures' away with a guy like Obama if antagonized into thinking their helping their man. So follow the Prime Directive and not interfere with their society, just observe their behavior.

[ladyliberty]

Hmmm...

So far this year, Obama has raised a total of $80.2 million, while Paul has raised a total of $8.3 million, both as of September 30th, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Just that statement alone makes be want to double my donation from $100 to $200!!!

We MUST beat the Obamaramas - we have to fight them there, so we won't have to fight them over here! Besides if we raise twice as much money as THEY do - we will be even more newsworthy!

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

80 million??? that would take about 34800 donations of $2300 dollars. granted that this 80 million is over the course of his entire campaign (i think). that still seems to be rediculously high. Why on earth would there even be a question as to whether Obama could raise 5 million in one day?? Doesn't this seem a little fishy?? Did I miss something?? Why have only 122 people signed up??

Could Obama's "grassroots" imitation of us reveal something they didn't expect about his fundraising? Am I alone on this?

[xao]

Quote:
>Originally Posted by Syren123
>EIGHTY MILLION DOLLARS?! FROM WHOM??
>$80 million doesn't just appear from regular folks. That's insane fascist money!! >Who is holding Obama's puppet strings?!


CFR - Zio-Marxist scum. Who else? Who else holds all of the other candidates except Kucinich and Paul. Furthermore who holds congresses strings but another branch of them called AIPAC.

[Mark37snj]

:rolleyes:

[monotony]

80 million??? that would take about 34800 donations of $2300 dollars. granted that this 80 million is over the course of his entire campaign (i think). that still seems to be rediculously high. Why on earth would there even be a question as to whether Obama could raise 5 million in one day?? Doesn't this seem a little fishy?? Did I miss something?? Why have only 122 people signed up??

Could Obama's "grassroots" imitation of us reveal something they didn't expect about his fundraising? Am I alone on this?

He absolutely can NOT raise that much from his grassroots. They don't really understand the peril this country is in. They give him lip service and may make it out to vote, but they won't raise 100,000k for him in a day. We donate until it hurts because we worry about this country and it's future. They see this as a competition...you know, like a football game where they just root for their guy. Root for him all they like, they aren't going to raise a fraction of what we did.

AND WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED!

[davidkachel]

I love it. They just don't get it. They are fighting for power and handouts. We are fighting for freedom. No contest! They can raise all they want. It doesn't mean a damn thing.

[DealzOnWheelz]

ever notice in histroy When the BIGGEST POWER invades a small country and threatens their way of life and freedom the smaller army with people willing to die for the fight always WIN


By the way everyone should start building a bomb shelter a BARACK O-BOMB-A Shelter


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Watch out the palestinians are coming and they are throwing pebbles at our Tanks Retreat retreat

LOL

[amonasro]

80 million??? that would take about 34800 donations of $2300 dollars. granted that this 80 million is over the course of his entire campaign (i think). that still seems to be rediculously high. Why on earth would there even be a question as to whether Obama could raise 5 million in one day?? Doesn't this seem a little fishy?? Did I miss something?? Why have only 122 people signed up??

Could Obama's "grassroots" imitation of us reveal something they didn't expect about his fundraising? Am I alone on this?

Absolutely not. We appreciate the true value of grassroots fundraising and they do not. This will hopefully wake them up to the corporate influence of his 80 million. Probably won't though.

[LinearChaos]

:rolleyes:


$5,000,000 million?! Isn't that, like, 5 quadrillion?
They are going to pay off half of the national debt over the internet in one day. All 130 of them.

[Mark Rushmore]

80 million??? that would take about 34800 donations of $2300 dollars.

So is that what happens if we all go All-In for the Teaparty? ;)

[tnvoter]

http://www.ncturnal.com/smiles/megarolleyes2bw.gif

hahahah.

Consider any emulations as flattery.

We have the real deal with good Doc.

<3 and hats off to you all