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malkusm
02-17-2012, 09:10 PM
Posted this in another thread but didn't want it to get lost. I'll do some analysis on it possibly tomorrow. Quite fishy indeed....

Cumberland Co. (Romney +15, Paul -17, Santorum +9, Gingrich +10, Other -2)

Baldwin: 0 votes cast
Casco: 0 votes cast
Chebeague: Ron Paul loses 2 votes (from 4 to 2)
Frye Island: 0 votes cast
Gorham: Santorum loses 4 votes (from 8 to 4). Gingrich loses 1 vote (from 4 to 3).
Gray: 2 votes for "Other" were discarded.
Long Island: 0 votes cast
New Gloucester: Santorum adds 27 votes (from 6 to 33). Gingrich adds one vote (from 3 to 4).
Portland: Romney adds 15 votes (from 91 to 106). Paul loses 15 votes (from 106 to 91).
Pownal: 0 votes cast
Sebago: 0 votes cast
South Portland: Santorum loses 14 votes (from 19 to 5). Gingrich adds 10 votes (from 9 to 19). Previous total said 81 but did not add up to 81; new total now adds up to 81.

Franklin Co. (Romney +6, Paul +2, Santorum +3, Gingrich +11, Undecided +1)

Avon: 0 votes cast
Carthage: 0 votes cast
Coplin Plantation: 0 votes cast
Dallas Plantation: 0 votes cast
Eustis: Previously said 0 votes cast. Now has 2 votes for Gingrich.
Madrid Township: 0 votes cast
Phillips: 0 votes cast
Rangeley: 0 votes cast
Sandy River Plantation: 0 votes cast
Wilton: Previously said 0 votes cast. Now has 6 votes Romney, 2 votes Paul, 3 votes Santorum, 9 votes Gingrich, 1 vote undecided (21 total votes).

Hancock Co. (Romney -1, Gingrich +1, Other +3)

Amherst: 0 votes cast
Aurora: 0 votes cast
Bar Harbor: Romney loses 5 votes (from 19 to 14)
Blue Hill: 1 vote added for "Other"
Castine: 0 votes cast
Cranberry Isles: 0 votes cast
Eastbrook: 0 votes cast
Franklin: 0 votes cast
Frenchboro: 0 votes cast
Gouldsboro: 0 votes cast
Great Pond: 0 votes cast
Hancock: 0 votes cast
Lamoine: 0 votes cast
Mariaville: 0 votes cast
Osborn: 0 votes cast
Otis: 0 votes cast
Sedgwick: 1 vote added for "Other"
Sorrento: 0 votes cast
Southwest Harbor: 1 vote added for "Other"
Stonington: 0 votes cast
Sullivan: 0 votes cast
T3 Nd Pt of Burlington (?): 0 votes cast
Trenton: Romney adds 5 votes (from 1 to 6)
Verona Island: Romney loses 1 vote (from 1 to 0). Gingrich adds 1 vote (from 0 to 1).
Waltham: 0 votes cast
Winter Harbor: 0 votes cast

Kennebec Co. (Romney +5, Paul +21, Gingrich +3, Other +3)

Augusta: 2 votes added for "Other". Previous total said 40 but did not add up to 40; new total now adds up to 40.
Clinton: 0 votes cast
Monmouth: 1 vote added for "Other"
Vienna: 0 votes cast
Waterville: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 5 votes for Romney, 21 votes for Paul, 3 votes for Gingrich.
Wayne: 0 votes cast

Knox Co. (Paul -2, Other -1)

Isle Au Haut: 0 votes cast
Matinicus Isle Plantation: 0 votes cast
North Haven: 0 votes cast
Vinalhaven: Paul loses 2 votes (from 4 to 2). "Other" loses 1 vote (from 1 to 0).

Lincoln Co.

Boothbay Harbor: 0 votes cast
Monhegan Plantation: 0 votes cast
South Bristol: 0 votes cast
Whitefield: 0 votes cast

Oxford Co. (Romney +3, Paul +5, Santorum +6, Gingrich -1, Other +2)

Albany Township: 0 votes cast
Byron: 0 votes cast
Gilead: 0 votes cast
Lincoln Plantation: 0 votes cast
Magalloway Plantation: 0 votes cast
Milton Township: 0 votes cast
Newry: 0 votes cast
Otisfield: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 3 for Romney, 5 for Paul, 3 for Santorum.
Porter: Santorum adds 1 vote (from 1 to 2)
Stoneham: 0 votes cast
Stow: 0 votes cast
Sumner: 0 votes cast
Sweden: 0 votes cast
Upton: 0 votes cast
Waterford: Santorum adds 2 votes (from 0 to 2). Gingrich loses 1 vote (from 1 to 0). Total # of votes still reads "6" in the new tally, but 7 votes are listed (3 for Romney, 2 for Paul, 2 for Santorum).
West Paris: 2 votes added for "Other"

Penobscot Co. (Other +1)

Alton: Total # of votes is listed as "0", although there are 3 votes listed (2 for Paul, 1 for Undecided).
Bangor: Total # of votes is listed as "0", although there are 67 votes listed (26 for Romney, 36 for Paul, 9 for Santorum, 4 for Gingrich, 2 for Undecided).
Burlington: 0 votes cast
Carroll Plantation: 0 votes cast
Corinth: 0 votes cast
Dixmont: Total # of votes is listed as "4", although there are 3 votes listed (1 for Romney, 1 for Santorum, 1 for "Other").
Drew Plantation: 0 votes cast
Edinburg: 0 votes cast
Enfield: 0 votes cast
Kenduskeag: 0 votes cast
Kingman: 0 votes cast
Lakeville: 0 votes cast
Mattawamkeag: 0 votes cast
Maxfield: 0 votes cast
Mount Chase: 0 votes cast
Newburgh: 1 vote added for "Other"
Passadumkeag: 0 votes cast
Patten: 0 votes cast
Penobscot Nation Voting District: 0 votes cast
Plymouth: 0 votes cast
Prentiss Township: 0 votes cast
Seboeis Plantation: 0 votes cast
Springfield: 0 votes cast
Stacyville: 0 votes cast
Stetson: 0 votes cast
Webster Plantation: 0 votes cast
Winn: 0 votes cast
Woodville: 0 votes cast

Piscataquis Co.

Abbot: 0 votes cast
Greenville Townships: 0 votes cast
Kingsbury Plantation: 0 votes cast
Lake View Plantation: 0 voes cast
Shirley: 0 votes cast
Wellington: 0 votes cast
Willimantic: 0 votes cast

Somerset Co.

Anson: 0 votes cast
Brighton Plantation: 0 votes cast
Cambridge: Total # of votes shows "8", although there are 9 votes listed (5 Santorum, 3 Gingrich, 1 Undecided)
Caratunk: 0 votes cast
Cornville: 0 votes cast
Dennistown Plantation: 0 votes cast
Detroit: 0 votes cast
Highland Plantation: 0 votes cast
Jackman: 0 votes cast
Mercer: 0 votes cast
Moose River: 0 votes cast
Moscow: 0 votes cast
New Portland: 0 votes cast
Pleasant Ridge Plantation: 0 votes cast
Rockwood Strip Township: 0 votes cast
Starks: 0 votes cast
The Forks Plantation: 0 votes cast
West Forks Plantation: 0 votes cast

Waldo Co. (Romney +29, Paul +35, Santorum +38, Gingrich +18, Other -2)

Belfast: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 5 votes Romney, 8 votes Paul, 7 votes Santorum, 1 vote "Other".
Belmont: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 3 votes Romney, 2 votes Santorum.
Brooks: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 1 vote Romney, 5 votes Paul.
Burnham: 0 votes cast
Freedom: 0 votes cast
Islesboro: 0 votes cast
Jackson: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 3 votes Santorum.
Knox: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 5 votes Santorum.
Liberty: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now had 4 votes Santorum.
Lincolnville: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 4 votes Romney, 4 votes Paul, 2 votes Gingrich.
Monroe: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 2 votes Gingrich.
Montville: "Other" loses 1 vote.
Morrill: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 2 votes Romney.
Palermo: "Other" loses 1 vote.
Prospect: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 2 votes Paul, 1 vote Santorum.
Searsmont: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 7 votes Paul, 3 votes Santorum, 3 votes Gingrich.
Searsport: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 5 votes Romney, 1 vote Paul, 5 votes Santorum, 3 votes Gingrich.
Swanville: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 1 vote Romney, 4 votes Paul.
Thorndike: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 1 vote Santorum.
Troy: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 2 votes Paul, 2 votes Gingrich.
Waldo: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 2 votes Romney, 1 vote Santorum, 4 votes Gingrich.
Winterport: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 6 votes Romney, 2 votes Paul, 6 votes Santorum, 2 votes Gingrich.

York Co. (Romney +12, Paul -16, Santorum +6)

Acton: Previously had 0 votes cast. Now has 12 votes Romney, 4 votes Paul, 6 votes Santorum.
Eliot: Total # of votes shows "44", however the votes shown sum to 43 (20 votes Romney, 12 votes Paul, 3 votes Santorum, 6 votes Gingrich, 2 votes Undecided).
Limington: Paul loses 20 votes (from 20 to 0).
sailingaway
02-17-2012, 09:10 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to malkusm again.

but I will.

Props, for now!
carterm
02-17-2012, 09:13 PM
Another thing to add. There are 218 "missing votes" that were added. Here is the breakdown of the percentages.

Missing Vote Totals
Romney: 36%
Paul: 15%
Santorum: 28%
Gingrich: 18%

Compare that to the Original Tally
Romney: 39%
Paul: 36%
Santorum: 18%
Gingrich: 6%

This seems statistically impossible. So, of the "new votes," Romney more than doubled Paul and Santorum/Gingrich beat Paul? Fraud Fail.
muh_roads
02-17-2012, 09:18 PM
umm, Paul is losing votes not gaining. Whut is going on here?
robert9712000
02-17-2012, 09:19 PM
+Rep

Ouch Paul loses 20 votes in york Co. Limington.can anyone confirm that from another source besides the Maine gop?
Phyxrgon
02-17-2012, 09:20 PM
umm, Paul is losing votes not gaining. Whut is going on here?
think they're lying... i no longer believe/trust maine gop.
sailingaway
02-17-2012, 09:21 PM
umm, Paul is losing votes not gaining. Whut is going on here?

Yeah, despite all previously known errors except the switching of Portland votes being ones that should have gone in Ron's favor on recount they are saying they found two to one more for Romney elsewhere than for Ron, and somehow some of Ron's were recorded when they didn't exist (something that doesn't happen when an email is sent to spam, in that case you get more votes when it is found, not fewer.)
yesman
02-17-2012, 09:23 PM
if someone made a petition threatening the republican party with votes for obama unless they force the resignation of the maine gop chair i would gladly sign it
braane
02-17-2012, 09:23 PM
Another thing to add. There are 218 "missing votes" that were added. Here is the breakdown of the percentages.

Missing Vote Totals
Romney: 36%
Paul: 15%
Santorum: 28%
Gingrich: 18%

Compare that to the Original Tally
Romney: 39%
Paul: 36%
Santorum: 18%
Gingrich: 6%

This seems statistically impossible. So, of the "new votes," Romney more than doubled Paul and Santorum/Gingrich beat Paul? Fraud Fail.

Conspiracy Theory:

If a GOP election was ever going to get a vote wrong, what are the odds that they would get the vote wrong in Ron's favor? What does that make the odds that they would get the vote wrong in Paul's favor at a clip of +20%? I would say I have a better chance of hopping on one of those pigs floating outside my window.
parocks
02-17-2012, 09:25 PM
There are counties not mentioned. Were they the same? You might want to add that. (no change) if there's no change.
malkusm
02-17-2012, 09:28 PM
Totals:

Romney +69
Paul +28
Santorum +62
Gingrich +42
Other +6
Undecided +1

...in other words, Ron Paul got cheated in the so-called "reconfirmation."
sailingaway
02-17-2012, 09:29 PM
Conspiracy Theory:

If a GOP election was ever going to get a vote wrong, what are the odds that they would get the vote wrong in Ron's favor? What does that make the odds that they would get the vote wrong in Paul's favor at a clip of +20%? I would say I have a better chance of hopping on one of those pigs floating outside my window.

Not to mention Ron's are the ONLY percentage numbers that went down on recount. EVERYONE else's went up. So EVERYONE else will be happy to keep it.
malkusm
02-17-2012, 09:29 PM
There are counties not mentioned. Were they the same? You might want to add that. (no change) if there's no change.

Yes, anything omitted had no results changed and no results showing 0 votes cast.
bcreps85
02-17-2012, 09:38 PM
Well, the official excuse for this debacle is that e-mails were missing in the junk mail folder...yet they somehow added votes for people in places that were removed on the "recount". Not likely. We should be seeing all extra votes, not votes being "disappeared"...
sailingaway
02-17-2012, 09:41 PM
if someone made a petition threatening the republican party with votes for obama unless they force the resignation of the maine gop chair i would gladly sign it

I think our plan is to control the delegates there and, thereby, his destiny.
kathy88
02-17-2012, 10:06 PM
Just one little public hanging for voter fraud would go a long way. I'm just sayin'
Barrex
02-17-2012, 10:08 PM
Their results CAN NOT BE TRUSTED.

Like I allready suggested on thread where this started:
"Why not go to "the source"?
Why not contact every precinct and verify all the results?
I know that there is a lot of work but it is obvious that official results can not be trusted. Who knows is there more places where fraud/error happend.
At this point people are just concentrating on errors/fraud that was obvious. If someone digs deeper maybe there will be more evidence. "
It is a lot of work but it could be done in few hours. 1 generic email. And get their numbers (not that hard). Time consuming but not that hard at all.

Improvement by economics102:
I think it would be helpful if one person, preferably someone who is a known name to the caucus chairs (but yet trusted by us), reaches out to these people. If a bunch of random RPF'ers start doing this, especially if multiple requests are made, they may not want to get involved.


List of their emails is here:
http://www.mainegop.com/state-committee/

I volunteer to search all of their phone numbers (I have done that for Washington County potential Ron voters).

2 things left to do:

1) make generic email with polite question about results in their county
and
2)Find someone who will sign that email and call them if necessary.

This is not complicated thing to do at all.

If I can do anything else feel free to contact me.

Hic Rhodes hic salta.
SCOTUSman
02-17-2012, 10:12 PM
Maine
Updated 3:38 p.m. EST, Feb 17, 2012




Romney
2,269
39%
9
95%
reporting
Paul
2,030
35%
7


Updated CNN results. 239 votes behind now. WOW. Webster is such a fing shill.
Vanilluxe
02-17-2012, 10:13 PM
I thought Ben Swann had different numbers?
sailingaway
02-17-2012, 10:14 PM
Just one little public hanging for voter fraud would go a long way. I'm just sayin'

I don't deny the attraction of your idea.
ryanmkeisling
02-17-2012, 10:17 PM
I don't understand how there are - votes? The GOP is playing some games in a desperate attempt to push the candidate they would like to see win the nomination. I'll bet there was a plan all along to pull this shit. It makes no sense that votes are disappearing.:mad:
MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
02-17-2012, 10:20 PM
I don't understand how there are - votes? The GOP is playing some games in a desperate attempt to push the candidate they would like to see win the nomination. I'll bet there was a plan all along to pull this shit.


Of course there was. They likely got away with election fraud in the last election too. I'd be surprised if this isn't criminal. We may be witnessing the end of the GOP.
thelaibon
02-17-2012, 10:35 PM
Of course there was. They likely got away with election fraud in the last election too. I'd be surprised if this isn't criminal. We may be witnessing the end of the GOP.

GOP = private entity, allowed to fraud anything they want. However I read here on another thread, that taxpayer dollars pay for the GOP's operations (at least in part), so there may in fact be something illegal about it.
thoughtomator
02-17-2012, 10:38 PM
How is it that an an allegedly actual count of allegedly actual votes counted has a bigger variance from result-to-result than a typical telephone poll?
thoughtomator
02-17-2012, 10:38 PM
Of course there was. They likely got away with election fraud in the last election too. I'd be surprised if this isn't criminal. We may be witnessing the end of the GOP.

We are witnessing the end of the GOP as a viable enterprise.
parocks
02-17-2012, 10:58 PM
I wouldn't use percentages and probabilites here. Just look at the changes, and if they were good changes.

The Portland change was apparently accurate. T

##############
Romney +69
Paul +28
Santorum +62
Gingrich +42
Other +6
Undecided +1
#################

If the Portland and the Limington changes weren't there, we would've had the highest +. But Portland was a 30 pt swing and Limington was a 20.
affa
02-18-2012, 12:02 AM
Just one little public hanging for voter fraud would go a long way. I'm just sayin'

many would consider vote tampering treasonous. just sayin'
carterm
02-18-2012, 12:03 AM
is limington's change legit?
sailingaway
02-18-2012, 12:23 AM
I note that in Eliot the vote total is different than the actual total of the votes. In Portland when that happened they threw out Ron's 70 delegates. Will they throw out what I presume are Romney's in Eliot?
Roxi
02-18-2012, 01:05 AM
umm, Paul is losing votes not gaining. Whut is going on here?

They think they are teaching us a lesson. "Cry vote fraud we will show you vote fraud"
parocks
02-18-2012, 01:14 AM
They think they are teaching us a lesson. "Cry vote fraud we will show you vote fraud"

We should be able to verify if the changes they made are accurate. He looked at the data. He noted the changes. We should know the right answers.

We know that the Portland change was right, or should. People just don't like to give out bad news I guess. Dan Billings, a Romney supporter (I think) noted that Portland was wrong on Sunday (abouts).

Limington is a surprise to me. One would think that the coordinators in York County would have known that there weren't 20 votes there if there weren't 20 votes there. If there were 20 votes in Limington, at least 1 would've been known by the campaign. Obviously, if the official campaign didn't get their own data from Limington, if they didn't have any IDs from Limington, and it turns up 20, they would know that something was wrong.
Gravik
02-18-2012, 01:24 AM
WHy is Paul losing votes??? Are they simply taking votes cast for Paul and giving them to Romney instead?
parocks
02-18-2012, 01:38 AM
WHy is Paul losing votes??? Are they simply taking votes cast for Paul and giving them to Romney instead?

Portland was wrong. Paul and Romneys numbers got switched.
Limington was a ???
Student Of Paulism
02-18-2012, 01:40 AM
Yea, this is shocking. They retally everything and its worse for Paul lol :rolleyes: Think it is time to just let ME go and worry about the delegates. It's possible all this is going to backfire and everyone wound up waking up a sleeping grizzly. Ron will probably finish in 3rd or 4th now. Hell, watch Gingrich be the winner of ME lol
Barrex
02-18-2012, 09:14 AM
Any update on this? Will countys and percints be contacted and their votes verified or people gave up on this?


Hic Rhodes,hic salta.
Barrex
02-19-2012, 09:45 AM
Bump. give up?