Rick Santorum: Birth Control is bad for women and society (2006)

[rambone]

"I don't think a healthy thing for our country."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MBO9tNNejo

[iamse7en]

I actually agree with Santorum here. Hell, Raquel Welch has been saying the same thing. Certainly has played a role in making society more promiscuous, increasing sexual relations outside of marriage and out-of-wedlock births (ironically). In total, it has been bad for the preservation of the family, but then again, if the people were moral, they wouldn't abuse its useful purpose in healthy family planning.

[rambone]

If society is more promiscuous, it has little to do with birth control technology.

Maybe it has something to do with 10-year olds watching booty-shaking music videos on MTV.

[rambone]

More on Rick's crusade against contraception.


Rick Santorum Wants to Fight ‘The Dangers Of Contraception’ (http://swampland.time.com/2012/02/14/rick-santorum-wants-to-fight-the-dangers-of-contraception/)


Transcript:


One of the things I will talk about that no President has talked about before is I think the dangers of contraception in this country, the whole sexual libertine idea. Many in the Christian faith have said, “Well, that’s okay. Contraception’s okay.”

It’s not okay because it’s a license to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be. They’re supposed to be within marriage, they are supposed to be for purposes that are, yes, conjugal, but also [inaudible], but also procreative. That’s the perfect way that a sexual union should happen. We take any part of that out, we diminish the act. And if you can take one part out that’s not for purposes of procreation, that’s not one of the reasons, then you diminish this very special bond between men and women, so why can’t you take other parts of that out? And all of a sudden, it becomes deconstructed to the point where it’s simply pleasure. And that’s certainly a part of it—and it’s an important part of it, don’t get me wrong—but there’s a lot of things we do for pleasure, and this is special, and it needs to be seen as special.

Again, I know most Presidents don’t talk about those things, and maybe people don’t want us to talk about those things, but I think it’s important that you are who you are. I’m not running for preacher. I’m not running for pastor, but these are important public policy issues. These how profound impact on the health of our society.

[angelatc]

If society is more promiscuous, it has little to do with birth control technology.

Maybe it has something to do with 10-year olds watching booty-shaking music videos on MTV.

Which came first?

[iamse7en]

If society is more promiscuous, it has little to do with birth control technology.

Maybe it has something to do with 10-year olds watching booty-shaking music videos on MTV.

Incentives. The possibility of a child is a big deterrent from having sex outside of wedlock and other forms of promiscuity. With contraceptives easier, cheaper and more accesible than ever, it strongly reduced that deterrent. It takes away the natural consequences of sex (creation of life). I don't doubt that the media has played a role in making society more promiscuous, but birth control has definitely played a major role as well. Raquel Welch (oh the irony) is right (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1276838/The-Pill-ruined-institution-marriage-says-Raquel-Welch.html)... it has helped increase promiscuity and destroy the institution marriage.

[rambone]

They called the 1960's the decade of free love. Promiscuity isn't really a new thing that got popular when birth control pills were invented.

You could make the case that sex-culture is being foist on young children earlier and earlier. Just watch some of the crap they put on the Disney Channel and Nickelodeon. Hang around with some middle-school girls and see how they talk and act, and what they watch and listen to. When I saw my young little cousin dancing provocatively to Lady Gaga (or something) my jaw dropped.

These kids are being inundated with sex. They act on their urges with or without contraceptives.

[Keith and stuff]

In all fairness, taking birth control pills is harmful to women.

[freeforall]

Sometimes preventative birth control can be a blessing for married couples with enough children. It's not just for promiscous singles.

[rambone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2MKZZ9c4kQ

[rambone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kjls0Ln7D4

[rambone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J-WAEpQqV8

[rambone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBTLnO7FQM8

[Mark37snj]

In all fairness, taking birth control pills is harmful to women.

So is smoking cigerettes but I am an adult and it is my choice. If we let them dictate acceptable behavior here it will only be the beginning.

[ONUV]

So is smoking cigerettes but I am an adult and it is my choice. If we let them dictate acceptable behavior here it will only be the beginning.

yes. the only thing this might concern is the fda. is people have the information about the side effects of a drug and still use it, it's their own fault. it's not the government's role to be our nanny.

[freeforall]

yes. the only thing this might concern is the fda. is people have the information about the side effects of a drug and still use it, it's their own fault. it's not the government's role to be our nanny.

It is risk vs reward. Only the individual can determine which is greater.

[Working Poor]

In all fairness, taking birth control pills is harmful to women.

I agree I especially think that it is harmful to children. I think women need to learn how to be more in touch with their bodies. A woman who is in touch with her body knows when she is ovulating. Women have lost more than they have gained to the feminist movement. Our bodies and minds have been so contaminated.

I think womankind has lost a lot of their femininity to birth control and feminist movements. Women hold the next generation within their bodies. It is very sad to me that so many young women think of it as a right to be able to kill the next generation.

[Krugerrand]

I agree I especially think that it is harmful to children. I think women need to learn how to be more in touch with their bodies. A woman who is in touch with her body knows when she is ovulating. Women have lost more than they have gained to the feminist movement. Our bodies and minds have been so contaminated.

I think womankind has lost a lot of their femininity to birth control and feminist movements. Women hold the next generation within their bodies. It is very sad to me that so many young women think of it as a right to be able to kill the next generation.

This is a very true statement - and women who do not realize that they should be able to know when they are ovulating should ponder it. We have become so dependent on the Medical Industrial Complex and their FDA whipping boy, that we've lost so much knowledge about the world around us and ourselves.

This is on the expensive side, but it certainly can help a woman learn how to know when she is ovulating:
http://www.ovacue.com/
http://www.ovacue.com/sites/ovacue.com/files/legacy/images/ovacueduo.jpg

I can't help but wonder how many couples experiencing infertility problems are the result of birth control pills. Consider warnings on some of the packages read that taking for more than 5 years can result in infertility.


So is smoking cigarettes but I am an adult and it is my choice. If we let them dictate acceptable behavior here it will only be the beginning.

Do you have any idea how much pharmaceutical products are contaminating our water supplies? The rivers in SW Pa have sexually confused creatures with all sorts of weird deformities. (I suspect birth control pills as the main factor.) The environmental consequence of these drugs is barely studied - mostly because nobody wants to know the answer.

[LisaNY]

More crazy talk from the crazy arsehole that will never be president of the united states. Thank god there are Republicans like Ron Paul who don't feel a need to control my life and dictate what I can or can not put in my body. I understand the pro-life argument but to say I can't take birth control pills because they're "dangerous" to society and I'm killing possible babies is a lunatic point of view that is thankfully not embraced by most people in this country.

[Working Poor]

Do you have any idea how much pharmaceutical products are contaminating our water supplies? The rivers in SW Pa have sexually confused creatures with all sorts of weird deformities. (I suspect birth control pills as the main factor.) The environmental consequence of these drugs is barely studied - mostly because nobody wants to know the answer.


No I do not have any idea how pharamcuticle drugs in my water might be affecting me. I agree that mo9st people do not care or want to know. The same ones who think the EPA is doing a good job I suppose.

[eduardo89]

I actually agree with Santorum here. Hell, Raquel Welch has been saying the same thing. Certainly has played a role in making society more promiscuous, increasing sexual relations outside of marriage and out-of-wedlock births (ironically). In total, it has been bad for the preservation of the family, but then again, if the people were moral, they wouldn't abuse its useful purpose in healthy family planning.

+rep. I completely agree

[Captain Shays]

Rick Santorum "consistent conservative" really isn't that consistent after all http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_t4cAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3GMEAAAAIBAJ&dq=santorum+progressive&pg=6015%2C5485825

He wrote a piece advocating for abortion up to 6 months

[Krugerrand]

No I do not have any idea how pharamcuticle drugs in my water might be affecting me. I agree that mo9st people do not care or want to know. The same ones who think the EPA is doing a good job I suppose.

That was directed at the "I can do what I want" crowd. Medications in water goes beyond birth control and is a serious issue. We aren't free to contaminate other people's water and I have no idea how this can be resolved. My money sure isn't on the FDA for a fix.

Here's some quick links if you're interested.
Pharmaceuticals In Our Water Supplies: Are “Drugged Waters” a Water Quality Threat?
http://ag.arizona.edu/azwater/awr/july00/feature1.htm

Pharmaceuticals lurking in U.S. drinking water: AP probe found traces of meds in water supplies of 41 million Americans
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23503485/ns/health-health_care/t/pharmaceuticals-lurking-us-drinking-water/#.Tz0NlV1KJGY

Pittsburgh Experts, Advocates React To Drugs In Water Supply: Local Researcher Finds Estrogen And Genderless Fish In Local Rivers
http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/pittsburgh-experts-advocates-react-to-drugs-in-wat/nGZJ3/

Medications found in drinking water, study shows
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/mostread/s_556442.html

[kpitcher]

His comments are worse than birth control. He says sex for any reason outside of procreation is wrong which is drastically different. Can't have kids, past child bearing years? Santorum thinks you should be celibate. He wouldn't want you to do something pleasurable!




One of the things I will talk about that no president has talked about before is I think the dangers of contraception in this country, the whole sexual libertine idea... It's not okay because it's a license to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be. They're supposed to be within marriage, for purposes that are, yes, conjugal... but also procreative.

That's the perfect way that a sexual union should happen. We take any part of that out, we diminish the act. And if you can take one part out that's not for purposes of procreation, that's not one of the reasons, then you diminish this very special bond between men and women, so why can't you take other parts of that out? And all of a sudden, it becomes deconstructed to the point where it's simply pleasure. And that's certainly a part of it--and it's an important part of it, don't get me wrong--but there's a lot of things we do for pleasure, and this is special, and it needs to be seen as special. Again, I know most presidents don't talk about those things, and maybe people don't want us to talk about those things, but I think it's important that you are who you are. I'm not running for preacher.


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/rick-santorum-wants-your-sex-life-to-be-special/253104/#.Tz1vZI-Nm0M.facebook

[rambone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsquCopESig

[Mckarnin]

"I don't think a healthy thing for our country."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MBO9tNNejo

I agree that it's bad for women and society but women should be allowed to do it if they want.