Which Non-Paul GOP Candidate Still Running Would Be The Most Offensive 2012 Nominee?

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Which one?

[Constitutional Paulicy]

Hands down Gingrich.

[Cap]

Sorry man, I can't come to a rational choice.

[asurfaholic]

Oops... misread the poll.

Can't decide between grinch or frothy. Grinch probably...


NOBP

[jkob]

Santorum. As bad as Gingrich is, and he is bad, I don't think Newt wants to ban pornography or gay sex. Santorum and his ilk are the equivalent of the Taliban and I would seriously consider leaving this country if he became president.

[MozoVote]

I cannot hand out GOP voter cards this year with Santorum on them. Just saying that, souds icky. :)

[GHoeberX]

Difficult choice between the most corrupt member of the Senate and the most unreliable and selfish member of the Congress...

[Marky]

The Grinch. He’s the most aggressively globalist and the most connected to all the evil agendas (CFR, Futurism, etc). Not to mention, quite possibly the sleaziest person to ever get close to the nomination. No morals and totally power hungry.

I sometimes wonder why the Grinch and Santorum, both has beens in the GOP whose political careers’ seem to have ended disgracefully (or at least embarassingly), were ever convinced to run. Neither were “on the rise” or particularly popular like you expect a decent presidential candidate to be. The more I think about it, the more I believe they are only in the race to make Romney look like the better/rational choice, and to keep conservatives away from Ron Paul.

[speciallyblend]

all of the above ,so i could not respond to the poll!

[billjones]

Santorum. As bad as Gingrich is, and he is bad, I don't think Newt wants to ban pornography or gay sex. Santorum and his ilk are the equivalent of the Taliban and I would seriously consider leaving this country if he became president.

Is there a video or something that shows how bad Santorum is and what his views are? My dad is going to vote for Paul but he also likes Santorum for some reason. He doesn't really understand that, ANYONE besides Paul = Establishment.

[airborne373]

IMO it would be Santorum. Ricky has made it clear he does not support "The Pursuit of Happiness." Ricky has a record or anti-Constitutional voting. And his grand-dad who he talks about escaping Italian Fascism was in fact a high level Communist Party Official.

P.S. I could hardly fault anyone for picking Gingrich as the worst. It's a close call between these two Torys.

[Sematary]

They are all equally offensive.

[Varin]

Is there a video or something that shows how bad Santorum is and what his views are? My dad is going to vote for Paul but he also likes Santorum for some reason. He doesn't really understand that, ANYONE besides Paul = Establishment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXqDVTdei30

there you go.

[Cyberbrain]

All of them for cripes sake. I don't understand how you can quantify status quo, you vote for one, you vote for them all.

[WilliamC]

I'd have to say Santorum since he's a true believer...in the wrong beliefs.

Anyone who openly supports and states they are happy with State-sanctioned assassinations and murders of political opponents, like he did with regards to assassinations within Iran, is to me both stupid and evil.

Bad combination in a President.

Gingrich is probably just as bad though, but he at least looks ugly on the outside.

Romney may not be totally evil and corrupt, at least he doesn't come across that way to me but I really don't know him so I could be wrong.

[Paul Or Nothing II]

NOBP

Don't give a hoot, they're ALL the same. As Ron says, they're ALL status quo!

[RonPaul101.com]

That's really tough to call, but I challenge anyone to argue that Gingrich isn't the biggest asshole on the planet. It can't be done.

[sailingaway]

I' honestly don't know how to vote. I'd have to weigh, on one hand, Santorum being the go to guy for lobbyists in the Senate in the Bush years, an architect of the K street project to match Senators with lobbyists, who was rewarded by receiving the most money from lobbyists of ANYONE in Congress his last year there, and look at his votes for the bridge to no where and no child left behind etc in that light. Then on the other hand I'd have to weigh Gingrich being in my opinion literally unbalanced, as well as prone to base policy on ego gratification, regardless of practicality or expense.

I don't know. Romney seems a better person, but he is owned by the banks.

What to do? What to do? :rolleyes:

[low preference guy]

Hands down Gingrich.

yes

[69360]

Gingrich is the most dangerous to the country as a CFR globalist.
Santorum is scary with his hate of gays and muslims.
Romney is just a flip flopping populist, he'll take whatever side is winning. He's no better or worse than Obama.

So I voted Gingrich.

[mavtek]

It's between Grinch and Santo for me, and it's tough I tell you.

[Corey]

I think people are saying Santorum because he's doing well right now. But Gingrich runs away with this "most offensive" away. I can't even stand to look at the man, much less entertain his insane ramblings...

[opinionatedfool]

Gingrich for sure.

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

An "All the Above" option would've been nice.

Even though all 3 are far beyond where I draw my line for a candidate being offensive, Romney got my vote because I think he is the worst kind.

The others at least are public about what makes them offensive.

Romney, poses as being the nice business man next door who is on your side and shares your views and concerns. Then he screws you behind your back.

[JimInNY]

Where is D) All of the above?

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Where is D) All of the above?

No cop-out possibilities. Too many polls here have those, and they're meaningless. No multiple choice, no "all of the above" or "so-and-so is a douchebag" options. Anyone that votes should have to make a choice. Imagine that.

Wanted to unequivocally see whom is most reviled here between Gingrich and Santorum. Knew Romney wouldn't win, but stuck his name in the poll anyway.


I think people are saying Santorum because he's doing well right now. But Gingrich runs away with this "most offensive" away. I can't even stand to look at the man, much less entertain his insane ramblings...

There is a very good chance that this is true. Would Gingrich be winning, if this poll was created shortly after his win in South Carolina? Probably.

[Txrose4ever]

Without a doubt, Santorum. I'd even vote Obama to keep him out........ Eeewwwwww

[agorist ninja]

They're all the same. Every single one of them will do what their banking/corporate/MIC masters demand.

Wake up.

[Jingles]

I picked Santorum because I think stupid is probably worse than evil. At least Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney probably understand what the hell we are talking about. Rick Santorum is just dumb.

[ctiger2]

Hands down Gingrich.

Yup, too EZ. Gingrich is on my short list of world's worst humans.

[cheapseats]

They're all the same. Every single one of them will do what their banking/corporate/MIC masters demand.

Wake up.


Wake up, indeed.

The presumption that all of THEM are the same is as fallacious as the presumption that all of YOU are the same. Which, ironically, IS what some non-paul-people think. And those who DO paint Ron Paul Supporters with a broad brush do NOT use a flattering color, fyi.

Mormon #MittRomney is NOT a carbon copy of Zipper Problem #Newt Gingrich.

I am on record: I will not only VOTE for Obama, I will BAT for Obama if Gingrich is the nominee.

[slamhead]

Santorum! He gives me the creeps.

[Southron]

The interventionist, big government Republican ....

[cheapseats]

Santorum! He gives me the creeps.


Not least 'cuz of his #EVANGELISM.

Blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada about his moral flexibility. HEARD it, and agree.

He is STILL not in the same SHAMELESS SLEAZEBALL league as #NewtGingrich.

[Elwar]

They all lose to Obama, so it would all just come down to entertainment value.

I believe Obama vs Santorum would be the most comical.

[Cabal]

They all offend me.

[The Gold Standard]

They're all the same. Every single one of them will do what their banking/corporate/MIC masters demand.

Wake up.

This and +rep.

[AggieforPaul]

Santorum. They'e all bad, but he's especially sick on foreign policy, and I dont like his extreme social conservatism.

[cheapseats]

They all lose to Obama, so it would all just come down to entertainment value.

I believe Obama vs Santorum would be the most comical.



I will suggest that only people who have been DESENSITIZED to "holy" wars by steadily VIEWING them rather than FIGHTING them would anticipate a showdown between Socialists and Evangelicals as COMICAL.

Sensory Indoctrination.

[jolynna]

No question in my mind WHO the most dangerous man in this race is.

He oozes oil, sleaze and will change his entire stance on ethical issues to suit the situation. He'll sit at his wife's side, holding her hand and tell a group of "worried" women that they can "COUNT on him", that he will ALWAYS be pro-choice. and within months of deciding to become a GOP president he's on a different video holding a little baby (nice touch) promising conservatives they can "count on him" to keep his NEW pro-life stance.

My disgust is NOT over whatever Mr. Romney's real position is on this controversial issue. It is over his sliminess and hypocrisy and how he made commercials using the "true believer" pro-choice ladies and next an innocent baby as "props" and pawns in his "power grab".

Mr. Romney is the ONLY candidate to "proudly" proclaim his support of and ACTUALLY justify supporting NDAA. He was all huffy and all haughty, like...if HE supports it...we should know is "for our own good". Arrogant pr---!

Mr. Romney is the ONLY one to call Obama--who has been a da*ned effective killer of brown-skinned people unfortunate enough to live around oil fields--"too timid". And the ONLY ONE to flat out lie and say that China has a larger NAVY <than we do> to justify HIS DESIRE to INCREASE military spending and the number of active duty servicemen when HE is president. The truth IS We have a larger military forces and more and better equipment than the next 18 largest world forces in the world COMBINED. Asserting in a debate that ANYONE has a larger military force or more equipment than WE DO is LYING.

There is a REASON Romney wants to build up our armed forces. Mr. Romney is an imperialist...a PROUD IMPERIALIST...that brags about how he is getting to make us stronger than our thousands of MULTIPLE WAR HEADS capable of blowing up the world several times over make us. He is the ONLY candidate to specify in speeches and on web pages how he is going to ADD active duty people, aircraft carriers, ships and war planes. Just what EVERY country on the brink of economic collapse most needs. If things at home get bad...distract the masses with some WAR.

Like OBAMA before him, Mr. Romney has been purchased by the BANKERS, the CORPORATE INTERESTS and the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX (not the active duty soldiers...the industries than manufacture and make money building war equipment). Every SINGLE bank that was BAILED OUT during the 2008 crisis is ON MR. ROMNEY'S TOP DONOR LIST. They will expect something BACK for their investment.

Rick and Newt COMBINED didn't receive even CLOSE to the tiniest of a fraction of what Obama or Romney got from the "cartel".

If none of these facts about Mr. Romney don't scare you, they should.

Follow the money. It always leads to the worst evil.

[cheapseats]

No question in my mind WHO the most dangerous man in this race is...

...Mr. Romney is an imperialist...a PROUD IMPERIALIST...


So are ALL of the Oppressors.

So, fundamentally, are ALL of the Movers & Shakers in the Military Industrial Complex and, when you get right down to it, so are all of the INVESTORS and EMPLOYEES in that MARKET SECTOR.

So is Newt Gingrich, of the "big ideas".

Newt Gingrich has the most INFERIOR CHARACTER on that stage.

[jolynna]

But, the worst of the worst, every single one of the "Too Big to Fail" Financial Institutions is SUPPORTING Romney. They've given Mr. Romney MORE MONEY than they've given to ALL of the other candidates COMBINED.

Which tells exactly WHO has promised to give the "Too Big to Fails" MOST for their investment.

The "Too Big to Fails" are the guys who deserve to go to jail because their greed brought ALL OF THE WORLD to the brink of a financial collapse we have YET to get over. Their escapades have burdened out children and their children with trillions of dollars of tax debt. While THEIR CEOs got HUGE million and billion dollar bonuses.

I vote for Obama before I'd vote for Mr. Romney.

And I'd cut off my hand before I'd cast a vote for Obama or Newt or Rick. Romney is bottom of the barrel is a NOT very fresh barrel of ripe garbage. Not possible to find anyone worse.

In my opinion.

[jolynna]

Bottom line. I wouldn't vote for Romney or Newt, or Rick or Obama under ANY circumstances. Not ever.

But, IF there is a WORSE one, always, always, follow the money.

Who the CROOKS trust to DO the DEED is always the "baddest" <the guy with the LEAST moral core> of the bunch.

[cheapseats]

But, the worst of the worst, every single one of the "Too Big to Fail" Financial Institutions is SUPPORTING Romney. They've given Mr. Romney MORE MONEY than they've given to ALL of the other candidates COMBINED.

Which tells exactly WHO has promised to give the "Too Big to Fails" MOST for their investment.


Um...these are the biggest of the Big Boys. Are you suggesting that #NewtGingrich and #RickSantorum CAN somewhat repel their craftiness?

The flip side of THEY'RE ALL THE SAME is that #BigMoney will have their way with any of them, yes? I realize YOU are saying #Romney is worse, but I disagree.




The "Too Big to Fails" are the guys who deserve to go to jail because their greed brought ALL OF THE WORLD to the brink of a financial collapse we have YET to get over. Their escapades have burdened out children and their children with trillions of dollars of tax debt. While THEIR CEOs got HUGE million and billion dollar bonuses.

You betcha. Wonder why Ron Paul never calls for prosecution and incarceration of White Collar Criminals, nor SEIZURE OF ILL-GOTTEN GAINS.




I vote for Obama before I'd vote for Mr. Romney.

And I'd cut off my hand before I'd cast a vote for Obama or Newt or Rick. Romney is bottom of the barrel is a NOT very fresh barrel of ripe garbage. Not possible to find anyone worse.

In my opinion.

I recall reading in another thread that several Board Members propose to KILL THEMSELVES if Ron Paul is not the nominee, others that profess they'd KILL THEMSELVES before voting for any mortal but the incomparable Ron Paul.

Each to his own, LIVE AND LET DIE, but it does not resonate as Truth.

[Orwell]

In terms of foreign and fiscal policy, Gingrich. In terms of social issues and liberty, Rick "I watch you in your bedroom" Santorum.

[Giuliani was there on 911]

ayatollah frothy

[Benjam]

Gingrich because he might have a CHANCE to beat Obama. Santorum has zero chance, and Gingrich wants to bomb every country in the world.

Mitt wants to bomb Iran, but I don't think he wants to bomb other countries.

Either way, if it's not Paul the GOP must lose unless Rand has the kahunas to challenge the incumbent.

[cheapseats]

HERE'S some irony for ya...

Y'all can't coalesce behind one thing any better than Republican Rank & File.

[jolynna]

Whatttttt??????

I'm NOT going to cut off my hand OR kill myself.

I WILL refuse to contribute to our nations corruption by voting FOR Obama, Newt, Rick AND ESPECIALLY NOT for Romney.

I couldn't look my children in the eyes ever again if I did.

The LESSER of evils is still evil.

I will not be part of it.

[Adam West]

"None of the Above." I'd rather a renal prostrate examination...

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

No question in my mind WHO the most dangerous man in this race is.

He oozes oil, sleaze and will change his entire stance on ethical issues to suit the situation. He'll sit at his wife's side, holding her hand and tell a group of "worried" women that they can "COUNT on him", that he will ALWAYS be pro-choice. and within months of deciding to become a GOP president he's on a different video holding a little baby (nice touch) promising conservatives they can "count on him" to keep his NEW pro-life stance.

My disgust is NOT over whatever Mr. Romney's real position is on this controversial issue. It is over his sliminess and hypocrisy and how he made commercials using the "true believer" pro-choice ladies and next an innocent baby as "props" and pawns in his "power grab".

Mr. Romney is the ONLY candidate to "proudly" proclaim his support of and ACTUALLY justify supporting NDAA. He was all huffy and all haughty, like...if HE supports it...we should know is "for our own good". Arrogant pr---!

Mr. Romney is the ONLY one to call Obama--who has been a da*ned effective killer of brown-skinned people unfortunate enough to live around oil fields--"too timid". And the ONLY ONE to flat out lie and say that China has a larger NAVY <than we do> to justify HIS DESIRE to INCREASE military spending and the number of active duty servicemen when HE is president. The truth IS We have a larger military forces and more and better equipment than the next 18 largest world forces in the world COMBINED. Asserting in a debate that ANYONE has a larger military force or more equipment than WE DO is LYING.

There is a REASON Romney wants to build up our armed forces. Mr. Romney is an imperialist...a PROUD IMPERIALIST...that brags about how he is getting to make us stronger than our thousands of MULTIPLE WAR HEADS capable of blowing up the world several times over make us. He is the ONLY candidate to specify in speeches and on web pages how he is going to ADD active duty people, aircraft carriers, ships and war planes. Just what EVERY country on the brink of economic collapse most needs. If things at home get bad...distract the masses with some WAR.

Like OBAMA before him, Mr. Romney has been purchased by the BANKERS, the CORPORATE INTERESTS and the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX (not the active duty soldiers...the industries than manufacture and make money building war equipment). Every SINGLE bank that was BAILED OUT during the 2008 crisis is ON MR. ROMNEY'S TOP DONOR LIST. They will expect something BACK for their investment.

Rick and Newt COMBINED didn't receive even CLOSE to the tiniest of a fraction of what Obama or Romney got from the "cartel".

If none of these facts about Mr. Romney don't scare you, they should.

Follow the money. It always leads to the worst evil.

I COMPLETELY AGREE.

It's not just the above that earned him my vote for most scariest really. It's that so many people are easily fooled by him and don't see it, that makes him the most scary. It seems so many are blinded by his white shit eating grin and shiny coifed hair. If he some how gets elected, and seeing how good he is at buying elections , he may have a shot at Obama, we won't be able to come here and post, "I told you so" to the others, because free speech internet will be gone.

[TheTexan]

Tough choice between the man with no morals, and the man that wants to force his morals into our lives under threat of a gun

[cheapseats]

Tough choice between the man with no morals, and the man that wants to force his morals into our lives under threat of a gun


The man with NO morals will ALSO resort to Force to establish his Order.

The man with NO morals is more apt to turbo-charge Force with sadism and capriciousness. NO morals. NO holds barred.

[Ender]

Lessee, do I want to eat horse manure or pig pooh....mmmm...tough decision....

[TheTexan]

Lessee, do I want to eat horse manure or pig pooh....mmmm...tough decision....

Go with the horse. Pigs are a filthy animal... horses at least have personality

[wgadget]

Santorum by a longshot. Theocrat meets nanny state big government warmonger. Ugh.

[cheapseats]

Reading this thread, it is easier to understand why Ron Paul's camp has been UNABLE to knock out such "equally bad" opponents.

[Cyberbrain]

It's like asking if you'd rather be boiled alive, tar and feathered, or hanged. You're going to die horribly either way, what's the point? The whole lesser of evils thing just irks me, Don't vote or vote third party. Don't fall for the throwing away you're vote BS, vote for who YOU want on the issues YOU care about and tell your friends and family to do the same.

[jolynna]

WHY CAN'T RON PAUL KNOCK OUT THIS MISERABLE COMPETITION?

SIMPLE.

IT IS ALL A FARCE AND IT IS RIGGED.

Nobody needs to worry about Santorum OR Newt getting ANYWHERE. The powers that bought Romney OR Obama will no more LET Santorum win than they would Ron Paul or Newt.

It wasn't an ACCIDENT that the night before the South Carolina primary, (where Newt was expected to roll up BIG numbers) Gingerich's ex did a tell-all which included Newt's "open marriage" request. (Not saying Newt isn't a dog-pig husband that I despise. I am saying the talky ex was pulled out at a moment "somebody" hoped would make slick, Yankee Mr. Romney NOT look NOT AS BAD, because even a sissy Yankee is better than a "rounder" hound that you "can't keep on the porch".)

Nor was it an accident that when Cain's numbers soared, the woman he had bought off over a decade ago got "dug up" and despite a "written agreement" things about Cain's indiscretions started to "slip out". And when that didn't pull his numbers down, MORE women got dug up. Even though Cain had been campaigning for MONTHS without them coming forward.

The "Too Big to Fails" INVESTED (probably a LOT more behind the scenes than what has been revealed) and come heck or high water, they are going to make sure they end up with one of "their" boys <Mr. Romney or Obama> to keep whatever they need coming their way.

Whether through fudged caucuses, black-outs of "dangerous" competition that can't be bought, digging up ex-wives with juicy dirt to share, bringing out newsletters from 20 years ago, digging up mistresses, only allowing IN candidates with ridiculous stances like controlling contraception devices...WHATEVER it takes...

Follow the money. Anything and everything will be DONE to assure the corportate interests and bankers that their HANDMAIDENS, Romney or Obama, end up in power.

People got fooled by Obama with his nice suits, progressive message (which he didn't implement) and his great speeches. Romney is just a greasier looking version of the same--how the bankers think conservative Republicans should look. Same animal, just dressed up and trotted out with messages to win over the selected markets.

The primaries are pre-scripted just like episodes of "The Hills" or "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills". Sometimes a snag comes up, like when a "real housewife" husband committed suicide OR like when it turns out a lot of Republicans sniff out Romney's phoney conservatism and have been desperately voting for everything ELSE that moves.

But, just like the Real Housewife producers edited out scenes with the "departed" husband and the show "went on" the GOP machine has been taking care of their complications and impediments so their show will "go on" as pre-planned.

In my opinion.

[jolynna]

It's like asking if you'd rather be boiled alive, tar and feathered, or hanged. You're going to die horribly either way, what's the point? The whole lesser of evils thing just irks me, Don't vote or vote third party. Don't fall for the throwing away you're vote BS, vote for who YOU want on the issues YOU care about and tell your friends and family to do the same.

This and + rep from me.

[jolynna]

If you think this ISN'T rigged, watch the reverence with which Mr. Romney is addressed. How the Vanity Fair expose which showed that Mr. Romney has some NOT VERY nice attitudes toward women HASN'T been dragged out. Since Mr. Romney has associations with NBC and affiliates AND with Fox...everybody is treating HIM with the same kind of kid gloves NBC treats Obama.

Not so with OTHER candidates where ALL of their mud gets dragged up as much as possible. <Santorum's moment in the sun is coming. He has SO MUCH in HIS closet, the media can save him until later and in the meantime he detracts from Newt, who got too popular and thus had to have his ex on television to take him down some notches.>

FOR ANY DOUBTERS ABOUT THE RIGGING...I SAY...see HOW the slightest plus for Ron Paul ends up NOT being shown, not being mentioned and when mentioned is ALWAYS proceeded by the statement, "Of course, Ron Paul WON'T be the GOP nominee, however, Dr. Paul just ..."

Our nominating process has become as real as a Jerry Springer show episode.

[eugenekop]

Definitely Santorum. He may actually start a few additional wars because he believes he is some kind of crusader. And he has that power, the congress can't stop him. In practice Santorum as president is a real threat.

[ChrisDixon]

This is a hard choice between Santorum and Gingrich.

[Gravik]

Santorum and Gingrich.

[timb2]

I was going to say Gingrich because he is such a sleazebag,but Frothy is a freaking Nazi.

Frothy!!!!