Whats up with Lou Dobbs?

[Peppy690]

Anyone know the deal with Dobbs, he seems to replicate Ron Paul's stance on everything. He also keeps saying independent, like he is trying to push an independent candidate on people. In the mean time he stress's nobody running has the right stance on anything.

Is he planning on running, or what is the deal with the whole indendent push?

Perhaps if Dr. Paul gets a lot of support and loses the nomination he would go back on his word and run as an independent, maybe Dobbs see's this? No idea.


I wish he would say everyone has the wrong stance EXCEPT Ron Paul. That is what gets me. I know he knows about Dr. Paul, why doesn't he emphasis him outright?

Kind of erks me the more I am watching him.

[bew2005]

I read on here yesterday that Lou had recently indicated support for Dr. Paul and Edwards on the democrat side.

However, as you indicate, it seems like he agrees with Dr. Paul on nearly everything, so it would seem he should bring him up more.

[Cindy]

Perhaps if Dr. Paul gets a lot of support and loses the nomination he would go back on his word and run as an independent, maybe Dobbs see's this? No idea.




That is the closest I have come to trying to figure him out. I'm thinking he is promoting everything Paul is about, and the idea of an independent being able to win if people get behind them, so if Paul doesn't get the nomination, the people by popular demand will force Paul into running as an Independent.

Otherwise, Dobbs makes no sense to me right now either.

[American]

Switching to Independent for closed states can vote for either party, its more of a statement then anything else. But for closed states you cant vote in the primaries.

When Dr. Paul takes the primary then these voters will be OURS!!!!

[Pete Kay]

Lou Dobbs probably does support Ron Paul, but I'm sure his bosses don't let him make an endorsement. Can you imagine his show if he openly supported Ron Paul? That's all the show would be about. It would turn into the Ron Paul Show. Ron Paul stands for almost everything that Dobbs does, so it would be impossible for Dobbs to not talk about Ron Paul once he threw his support out there.

[dircha]

Lou Dobbs describes himself as a populist. He does not support libertarian values and does not support limited Constitutional government.

He advocates protectionism.

And fundamentally he believes that the role of government is to provide for as many United States citizens as possible to live the American dream without letting anyone slip through the cracks.

These values sit contrary to the Constitutional role of government and the strong advice of the founders.

[Cindy]

Lou Dobbs describes himself as a populist. He does not support libertarian values and does not support limited Constitutional government.

He advocates protectionism.

And fundamentally he believes that the role of government is to provide for as many United States citizens as possible to live the American dream without letting anyone slip through the cracks.

These values sit contrary to the Constitutional role of government and the strong advice of the founders.

That being the case, he must be trying to set himself up to get an Independent nomination to run himself then.

I wouldn't vote for him either if he is a socialist and I would like to ask him what money the government independently has to provide for everyone with?

I wish these socialist would straight talk and just say,

"the Americans with their act together need to be forced to take care of those who can't seem to get it together."

[quickmike]

Lou Dobbs describes himself as a populist. He does not support libertarian values and does not support limited Constitutional government.

He advocates protectionism.

And fundamentally he believes that the role of government is to provide for as many United States citizens as possible to live the American dream without letting anyone slip through the cracks.

These values sit contrary to the Constitutional role of government and the strong advice of the founders.

BINGO!!

I keep telling people in this forum the same thing, yet day after day, new threads pop up asking why Dobbs doesnt support Ron Paul 100%.

Get it through your heads people, Dobbs is no lover of freedom, just protectionism.

[dircha]

I read on here yesterday that Lou had recently indicated support for Dr. Paul and Edwards on the democrat side.

However, as you indicate, it seems like he agrees with Dr. Paul on nearly everything, so it would seem he should bring him up more.

He agrees with Congressman Paul on illegal immigration only to the extent that immigration that is illegal should be stopped. Paul, however, as a libertarian believes that in principle there should be no restriction on the flow of law-abiding citizens across national borders, but that in practice at present this is not possible due to massive government entitlement programs. Lou Dobbs on the other hand seems to believe fundamentally that the immigration should be managed to maximize opportunities for those born in America. This is contrary to libertarian values and the advice of the founders.

He agrees with Congressman Paul on free trade only to the extent that he does not support trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA that undermine U.S. sovereignty, that undermine the Constitutional separation of powers, and that give unfair advantages to special interests. Ron Paul believes in true free trade. Lou Dobbs on the other hand believes that the federal government should manage trade - restricting and controlling free action within the markets - for the benefit of U.S. citizens. This is contrary to libertarian values and the advice of the founders.

[Midnight77]

I pray to God that Ron will run Independent if he doesn't secure the nomination. People are disgusted with Republicans and Democrats at this point. He's getting a Hell of a lot of attention now, and would get even more attention if it was just him, Clinton, and Giuliani. I honestly think Paul stands a better chance at securing a victory in the General Election than the Primary. It was also just reported that there are more Independents in this country then Republicans or Democrats.

[Benaiah]

If Paul loses the GOP primary there are some states that he can't be on the ballot for the general election though.

I know his home state of Texas is one of them. If you lose the primary as one party, you can't be in the general as another.

[edit] that said, he better run as a 3rd party if he doesn't get the GOP nomination.

[JMO]

Lou Dobbs attempt to get people to switch to Independent is a protest against the 2 party establishment.

[LibertyEagle]

Lou Dobbs describes himself as a populist. He does not support libertarian values and does not support limited Constitutional government.

He advocates protectionism.

And fundamentally he believes that the role of government is to provide for as many United States citizens as possible to live the American dream without letting anyone slip through the cracks.

These values sit contrary to the Constitutional role of government and the strong advice of the founders.

qft

[dircha]

I pray to God that Ron will run Independent if he doesn't secure the nomination. People are disgusted with Republicans and Democrats at this point. He's getting a Hell of a lot of attention now, and would get even more attention if it was just him, Clinton, and Giuliani. I honestly think Paul stands a better chance at securing a victory in the General Election than the Primary. It was also just reported that there are more Independents in this country then Republicans or Democrats.

Paul would have my vote!

If we can raise 8 million in a month and a half, we can get him on the ballots as an independent I would like to think.

Unfortunately I suspect that the American people would go more strongly for someone like Dobbs than Paul. Dobbs' views seem very close to Perot's views on both NAFTA and the role of the federal government as I recall.

Not that I agreed with Perot on many things, but he would have been better than Bush I, and he would have been better than Dole.

There's the potential for some remarkable similarities to emerge now that I think of it. Hopefully the result of it this time around won't be a Clinton in the White House :)

[dircha]

If Paul loses the GOP primary there are some states that he can't be on the ballot for the general election though.

I know his home state of Texas is one of them. If you lose the primary as one party, you can't be in the general as another.

[edit] that said, he better run as a 3rd party if he doesn't get the GOP nomination.

Ugh. I didn't realize that. That seems very unfair. I guess the states have the right to do that, but it certainly to me doesn't seem in the interests of their citizens.

[Goldwater Conservative]

He strikes me as being more like John Edwards with the border/immigrant policy of Tom Tancredo.

[freelance]

There's one thing that no one has mentioned about Lou Dobbs. He's FOR the National ID as a way to control illegal immigration. He's for the SAVE act, which means that all of us have to have tamper-proof ID to WORK. Papers please!

[mike1]

I think if we don’t win the primary and he has the momentum he will run as a independent I also believe this is the last chance for change with out blood shed so we need to do everything we can to get him the nomination well that’s my 2 cents as for dobbs I think he is just like the rest of the controlled media

[nexus7]

Lou may yet be useful if something fishy happens in the primary and paul doesn't get picked.

[RP4ME]

he is waiting for Bloomber to announce an independent candidiacy - independent does not equal not a globalist!

[Jobarra]

I think it would take a massive grassroots effort to talk Ron Paul into running independent. He's said he has no intentions of running as an independent and has some very good reasons for not running as such(biased party system, limited funding, etc.) I do wish he would change his mind about it though if such an event happened. Either way, I'll be voting for him in November. Even if I have to write it on the ballot. I think he has probably the best chance in years to match Perot's effort financially, but have a more complete policy.

[TheNewYorker]

I think it would take a massive grassroots effort to talk Ron Paul into running independent. He's said he has no intentions of running as an independent and has some very good reasons for not running as such(biased party system, limited funding, etc.) I do wish he would change his mind about it though if such an event happened. Either way, I'll be voting for him in November. Even if I have to write it on the ballot. I think he has probably the best chance in years to match Perot's effort financially, but have a more complete policy.

Yes, he's been saying he would never run as an independent for quite a long time now.

But he also has said he didn't ever imagine his support would be this large.

I'm sure if, he does really well in the primaries, and it's shown to him just how much support he has, if he doesn't win the primaries but does well... I think we could convince him to run independent.