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RSDavis
11-12-2007, 12:04 PM
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Ron Paul Roundup (11-12-07)
by RS Davis (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=194780914&blogID=327882847&Mytoken=36561D0E-563C-49A2-89EA73800B64733B28629205)


Hello Freedomphiles! Well, yesterday was the second money bomb, the Veteran's Day campaign. I think this one could have been handled better. I didn't think that it would make as much money as the one on Guy Fawkes Day, but I also thought it was a good opportunity to highlight the fact that Ron Paul is recieving more donations from active and retired military personnel than any of his competition.

But how did it do? Free Market News Network reports (http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=51312):

In an emphatic show of armed services patriotism, support and concern, the Veterans Day "Money Bomb" for GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul pushed 4th quarter fund-raising donations over $8 million a goal that campaign at one time expected to reach at the end of November.

The $8 million mark was reached at around 6:10 PM/EST on November 11th.

I think they are being overly generous. I mean, there was a spike, but not nearly the spike from November 5th. It was just too soon. Still, the spike did put him over $8 million, which translates to a one-day total of a little over $230,000.

Don't fret, though, because the next one (http://teaparty07.com/)on December 16th, in rememberance of The Boston Tea Party, could outdo the Guy Fawkes Day money bomb.

In other news, our boy made (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/us/politics/11paul.html?em&ex=1194930000&en=2d702a2ad928bc03&ei=5087%0A) The New York Times again:

From posting video on YouTube to enlisting friends through Facebook, all of the presidential candidates are looking for ways to harness the Internet. In the case of Ron Paul, the Internet has harnessed him...

...If his campaign had taken place in the pre-Internet era, it might have gone the way of his 1988 Libertarian campaign for president, as a footnote to history. But because of the Internet's low-cost ability to connect grass-roots supporters with one another in this case, largely iconoclastic white men Mr. Paul's once-solo quest has taken on a life of its own. It is evolving from a figment of cyberspace into a traditional campaign, with yard signs, direct mail and old-fashioned rallies, like one here on Saturday attended by a few thousand people under cold, gray skies. Mr. Paul said it was his biggest rally so far. He said it proved his campaign was more than "a few spammers" and called it a "gigantic opportunity" to establish credibility...

...In an interview on Friday, Mr. Paul, 72, a retired physician and a grandfather, acknowledged that the influence of the Internet had surprised even him.

"We always knew it was supposed to be important," he said of the Internet. "My idea was you had to have someone who was a super expert, who knew how to find people. But they found us."

(...)

Mr. Paul estimated that the one-day haul had brought "$10 million worth of free publicity."

He added, "It's kind of sad, but the money is what has given us credibility, not the authenticity of the ideas."

The Seattle Post Intelligencer is also commenting (http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/mediamockingbird/archives/125716.asp?from=blog_last3) on the Ron Paul internet phenomenon:

...the World Wide Web may be taking Ron Paul for a ride. It may end up as just another online game of sorts. Or, it may end with success at the finish line for Mr. Paul, who is seeking a Republican nomination and is mustering a surprising amount of support for it.

In the real world (if we can still separate the virtual world from the real, physical one), has anyone noticed how many posters and banners supporting Ron Paul have mushroomed in Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood? I notice a number of his supporters are young people, students.

To my mind, this phenomenon speaks, at one level, to the simple spectacle of the Internet. At another level, it seems like a cry to reclaim politics, to channel it away from its hidden corridors and bring it into newer portals.

But is it turning into greater media coverage? No doubt it is, but perhaps not at the level we'd like. Casino Gambling Web comments (http://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gambling-news/casino-gambling/apathy_for_ron_paul_in_msm_fuels_even_stronger_fer vor_amongst_supporters_47750.html):

But those 'political experts' interviewed on the MSM news programs who say that Ron Paul has no shot at gaining 270 delegates come primary time only appear to fuel the passion of Ron Paul supporters.

The rolling of the eyes, the sighs, and the general apathy towards covering any news issues having to do with Ron Paul is recognized by Paul supporters who watch those shows, and each one of them apparently takes every expression of media apathy as a personal insult. This appears to cause them to believe even stronger in the Ron Paul/Freedom Revolution.

At a local town meeting this week the issue of media and Ron Paul was discussed.

"We do not want to be told who can win and who can't by people in Washington who we can't relate to," said John S. from Florida.

So, we redouble our efforts. MSNBC is noticing (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/10/459754.aspx):

Want more proof that Ron Paul supporters are everywhere? Outside the University of Texas football stadium here -- just an hour before kickoff -- is a plane flying with a banner that reads: "Ron Paul for President...Everyone wins." We're not kidding.

Yes, we're everywhere, but if it doesn't translate into some real support in the primaries, it will be for naught. The National Ledger is talking (http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272617167.shtml) about Paul and his poll numbers right now:

Ron Paul has a populist message that I like. The Republican US Congressman with the big "L" Libertarian ideas from the state of Texas is vying for the Republican nomination for president and though many have never even heard of him, or have no idea what he stands for his message is resonating online. But this election will not be won on the World Wide Web. Paul needs real poll numbers and he needs them fast or he is toast.

They definitely have a point, but I think the poll numbers are going to shoot up more as the coalition of disenfranchised Democrats, independents, and libertarians - none of whom are included in these polls (in many of the polls, you can also mention Ron Paul as one of those not included) - come out to vote in the primaries. One big upset and people will start responding. I see that as crucial to future success.

Gambling911.com is talking about the odds on Ron Paul right now. I'm on record as saying that these betting websites may be more accurate than the polls because they are structured like a futures market, where much decentralized information aggregates itself into more reliable information through market transactions. Here's what they are saying (http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-111007B.html):

On November 10, he came in with 5/1 odds.

Only Mitt Romney (with 9/4 odds) and Rudy Giuliani (11/10 odds) are listed higher. Romney would pay $9 for every $4 bet while Giuliani would pay out $11 for every $10 bet.

"Ron Paul has officially surpassed John McCain among Republicans where oddsmakers are concerned, even around the world," announced Payton O'Brien, Senior Editor of Gambling911.com. "He's now favored over Fred Thompson as well, who is listed with 6/1 odds at PaddyPower."

Those numbers get better every time I see them.

Seacoast Online reports (http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071110/NEWS/711100332) on a talk Dr Paul gave in Durham:

While flyers outside the room where he spoke portrayed the Paul movement as a "Revolution," the 72-year-old Paul, a medical doctor, spoke to more than 350 UNH students and local residents. He shared his libertarian brand of conservative politics and garnered cheer after cheer for his opposition to a draft, the war in Iraq and the American "empire," for his support to legalize marijuana, and his desire to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and most current functions of the federal government.

"We're losing our prosperity because we're losing our freedom," said Paul, who believes the United States should return to the gold standard to bolster the national currency and better stabilize the economy. "My program is based on common sense blended with the Constitution."

He said the country should replace what he called the "welfare/warfare/socialist system" with "our original revolution" from the 18th Century to restore freedom and liberty.</STRONG>

Paul, the only Republican candidate who voted against authorizing the war in 2002 and has continued to oppose it as unconstitutional, said the war in Iraq was emblematic of the system's corruption. "The system is wrong. It's not a management problem," he said. "The principle is wrong."

And CNN also had a talk with him. USADaily reports (http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=159139):

After speaking to a group of almost 5,000 supporters in the streets of Philadelphia outside Independence Hall, Republican Presidential candidate, Ron Paul, was interviewed by CNN.

Paul considered by many to be the first Civil Rights leader of the 21st century, was asked by the CNN host yesterday if his campaign was a throwback, Paul eloquently said:

"It's actually the opposite of being a throwback, the government is a throwback, the current government we have, our current trends is a throwback to tyranny, where government runs things and individual freedom is minimized, America was all based on maximizing the freedom of the individual and we've lost that, but that's a new idea.

Tyranny has been around for thousands of years and we have something new and wonderful and we just want to restore that trend that we were given a couple hundred years ago, but in terms of history it is a very, very, new idea."

Incredibly well-stated, Dr Paul! The Washington Post is commenting on Dr Paul's new commercial. Here's what they are saying (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/11/ron_paul_hits_iowa_airwaves_ne.html), as well as the actual commercial:

First of all, you've gotta love the Constitution as background motif. Second, the ads may be slightly amateurish, but they get the job done. Paul wants to make sure people know he wants to end the war in Iraq and drastically curtail government's influence in every day life.

Can Paul win the GOP nomination? No. But can he force the frontrunners to adjust their strategies to deal with him and his unique appeal? Yes. In fact, that's already happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0_ZCEc9bi8

ronpaulyourmom
11-12-2007, 12:10 PM
Great read, thanks.

And yeah his national poll numbers are pushing 6% now, and there's reason to believe he'll hit 7% in the Rasmussen tracking poll tomorrow.

rockwell
11-12-2007, 12:12 PM
"Can Paul win the GOP nomination? No."

They are getting scared, no question about it. The ignore mode didn't work, now they're pumping the "He hasn't got a chance in hell" meme.

Keep it up, it works for us.

Patrick Henry
11-12-2007, 12:34 PM
"Can Paul win the GOP nomination? No."

They are getting scared, no question about it. The ignore mode didn't work, now they're pumping the "He hasn't got a chance in hell" meme.

Keep it up, it works for us.

My brother recites that "He doesn't have a chance" non-sense. I though that I had won him over, but the MSM has now totally brainwashed him. He even thinks that it was possible that Soros may have had something to do with the 5th. He is totally clueless and is breaking my heart quite frankly.

Patrick Henry
11-12-2007, 12:35 PM
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Ron Paul Roundup (11-12-07)
by RS Davis (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=194780914&blogID=327882847&Mytoken=36561D0E-563C-49A2-89EA73800B64733B28629205)


Hello Freedomphiles! Well, yesterday was the second money bomb, the Veteran's Day campaign. I think this one could have been handled better. I didn't think that it would make as much money as the one on Guy Fawkes Day, but I also thought it was a good opportunity to highlight the fact that Ron Paul is recieving more donations from active and retired military personnel than any of his competition.

But how did it do? Free Market News Network reports (http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=51312):

In an emphatic show of armed services patriotism, support and concern, the Veterans Day "Money Bomb" for GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul pushed 4th quarter fund-raising donations over $8 million a goal that campaign at one time expected to reach at the end of November.

The $8 million mark was reached at around 6:10 PM/EST on November 11th.

I think they are being overly generous. I mean, there was a spike, but not nearly the spike from November 5th. It was just too soon. Still, the spike did put him over $8 million, which translates to a one-day total of a little over $230,000.

Don't fret, though, because the next one (http://teaparty07.com/)on December 16th, in rememberance of The Boston Tea Party, could outdo the Guy Fawkes Day money bomb.

In other news, our boy made (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/us/politics/11paul.html?em&ex=1194930000&en=2d702a2ad928bc03&ei=5087%0A) The New York Times again:

From posting video on YouTube to enlisting friends through Facebook, all of the presidential candidates are looking for ways to harness the Internet. In the case of Ron Paul, the Internet has harnessed him...

...If his campaign had taken place in the pre-Internet era, it might have gone the way of his 1988 Libertarian campaign for president, as a footnote to history. But because of the Internet's low-cost ability to connect grass-roots supporters with one another in this case, largely iconoclastic white men Mr. Paul's once-solo quest has taken on a life of its own. It is evolving from a figment of cyberspace into a traditional campaign, with yard signs, direct mail and old-fashioned rallies, like one here on Saturday attended by a few thousand people under cold, gray skies. Mr. Paul said it was his biggest rally so far. He said it proved his campaign was more than "a few spammers" and called it a "gigantic opportunity" to establish credibility...

...In an interview on Friday, Mr. Paul, 72, a retired physician and a grandfather, acknowledged that the influence of the Internet had surprised even him.

"We always knew it was supposed to be important," he said of the Internet. "My idea was you had to have someone who was a super expert, who knew how to find people. But they found us."

(...)

Mr. Paul estimated that the one-day haul had brought "$10 million worth of free publicity."

He added, "It's kind of sad, but the money is what has given us credibility, not the authenticity of the ideas."

The Seattle Post Intelligencer is also commenting (http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/mediamockingbird/archives/125716.asp?from=blog_last3) on the Ron Paul internet phenomenon:

...the World Wide Web may be taking Ron Paul for a ride. It may end up as just another online game of sorts. Or, it may end with success at the finish line for Mr. Paul, who is seeking a Republican nomination and is mustering a surprising amount of support for it.

In the real world (if we can still separate the virtual world from the real, physical one), has anyone noticed how many posters and banners supporting Ron Paul have mushroomed in Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood? I notice a number of his supporters are young people, students.

To my mind, this phenomenon speaks, at one level, to the simple spectacle of the Internet. At another level, it seems like a cry to reclaim politics, to channel it away from its hidden corridors and bring it into newer portals.

But is it turning into greater media coverage? No doubt it is, but perhaps not at the level we'd like. Casino Gambling Web comments (http://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gambling-news/casino-gambling/apathy_for_ron_paul_in_msm_fuels_even_stronger_fer vor_amongst_supporters_47750.html):

But those 'political experts' interviewed on the MSM news programs who say that Ron Paul has no shot at gaining 270 delegates come primary time only appear to fuel the passion of Ron Paul supporters.

The rolling of the eyes, the sighs, and the general apathy towards covering any news issues having to do with Ron Paul is recognized by Paul supporters who watch those shows, and each one of them apparently takes every expression of media apathy as a personal insult. This appears to cause them to believe even stronger in the Ron Paul/Freedom Revolution.

At a local town meeting this week the issue of media and Ron Paul was discussed.

"We do not want to be told who can win and who can't by people in Washington who we can't relate to," said John S. from Florida.

So, we redouble our efforts. MSNBC is noticing (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/10/459754.aspx):

Want more proof that Ron Paul supporters are everywhere? Outside the University of Texas football stadium here -- just an hour before kickoff -- is a plane flying with a banner that reads: "Ron Paul for President...Everyone wins." We're not kidding.

Yes, we're everywhere, but if it doesn't translate into some real support in the primaries, it will be for naught. The National Ledger is talking (http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272617167.shtml) about Paul and his poll numbers right now:

Ron Paul has a populist message that I like. The Republican US Congressman with the big "L" Libertarian ideas from the state of Texas is vying for the Republican nomination for president and though many have never even heard of him, or have no idea what he stands for his message is resonating online. But this election will not be won on the World Wide Web. Paul needs real poll numbers and he needs them fast or he is toast.

They definitely have a point, but I think the poll numbers are going to shoot up more as the coalition of disenfranchised Democrats, independents, and libertarians - none of whom are included in these polls (in many of the polls, you can also mention Ron Paul as one of those not included) - come out to vote in the primaries. One big upset and people will start responding. I see that as crucial to future success.

Gambling911.com is talking about the odds on Ron Paul right now. I'm on record as saying that these betting websites may be more accurate than the polls because they are structured like a futures market, where much decentralized information aggregates itself into more reliable information through market transactions. Here's what they are saying (http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-111007B.html):

On November 10, he came in with 5/1 odds.

Only Mitt Romney (with 9/4 odds) and Rudy Giuliani (11/10 odds) are listed higher. Romney would pay $9 for every $4 bet while Giuliani would pay out $11 for every $10 bet.

"Ron Paul has officially surpassed John McCain among Republicans where oddsmakers are concerned, even around the world," announced Payton O'Brien, Senior Editor of Gambling911.com. "He's now favored over Fred Thompson as well, who is listed with 6/1 odds at PaddyPower."

Those numbers get better every time I see them.

Seacoast Online reports (http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071110/NEWS/711100332) on a talk Dr Paul gave in Durham:

While flyers outside the room where he spoke portrayed the Paul movement as a "Revolution," the 72-year-old Paul, a medical doctor, spoke to more than 350 UNH students and local residents. He shared his libertarian brand of conservative politics and garnered cheer after cheer for his opposition to a draft, the war in Iraq and the American "empire," for his support to legalize marijuana, and his desire to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and most current functions of the federal government.

"We're losing our prosperity because we're losing our freedom," said Paul, who believes the United States should return to the gold standard to bolster the national currency and better stabilize the economy. "My program is based on common sense blended with the Constitution."

He said the country should replace what he called the "welfare/warfare/socialist system" with "our original revolution" from the 18th Century to restore freedom and liberty.</STRONG>

Paul, the only Republican candidate who voted against authorizing the war in 2002 and has continued to oppose it as unconstitutional, said the war in Iraq was emblematic of the system's corruption. "The system is wrong. It's not a management problem," he said. "The principle is wrong."

And CNN also had a talk with him. USADaily reports (http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=159139):

After speaking to a group of almost 5,000 supporters in the streets of Philadelphia outside Independence Hall, Republican Presidential candidate, Ron Paul, was interviewed by CNN.

Paul considered by many to be the first Civil Rights leader of the 21st century, was asked by the CNN host yesterday if his campaign was a throwback, Paul eloquently said:

"It's actually the opposite of being a throwback, the government is a throwback, the current government we have, our current trends is a throwback to tyranny, where government runs things and individual freedom is minimized, America was all based on maximizing the freedom of the individual and we've lost that, but that's a new idea.

Tyranny has been around for thousands of years and we have something new and wonderful and we just want to restore that trend that we were given a couple hundred years ago, but in terms of history it is a very, very, new idea."

Incredibly well-stated, Dr Paul! The Washington Post is commenting on Dr Paul's new commercial. Here's what they are saying (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/11/ron_paul_hits_iowa_airwaves_ne.html), as well as the actual commercial:

First of all, you've gotta love the Constitution as background motif. Second, the ads may be slightly amateurish, but they get the job done. Paul wants to make sure people know he wants to end the war in Iraq and drastically curtail government's influence in every day life.

Can Paul win the GOP nomination? No. But can he force the frontrunners to adjust their strategies to deal with him and his unique appeal? Yes. In fact, that's already happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0_ZCEc9bi8


These roundups are really excellent. Keep up the great work!

ronpaulyourmom
11-12-2007, 12:36 PM
My brother recites that "He doesn't have a chance" non-sense. I though that I had won him over, but the MSM has now totally brainwashed him. He even thinks that it was possible that Soros may have had something to do with the 5th. He is totally clueless and is breaking my heart quite frankly.

Tell him that Soros is afraid of Ron Paul, not supportive of him. Then mention that 4000-5000 people physically rallied in Philly just the other day and ask him how if 5000 people can drive and sit out in the cold why it would be unbelievable that Ron Paul could get 30,000 people or whatever to donate to him on a single day.

JMann
11-12-2007, 12:43 PM
Ron Paul needs to learn to answer the question if he has a chance better than he has recently. I would suggest he say that he feels he has a better chance now of winning than of not.

CelestialRender
11-12-2007, 12:49 PM
He has a pretty good chance of actually winning NH at this point, as I see it. The odds makers are giving us 10% or so, and that's with the fact that they believe those phone polls mean something.

If he DOES win NH, the whole tenor of this thing will change within 24 hours, in a MUCH bigger way than it did following Nov 5th.

RSDavis
11-12-2007, 12:52 PM
These roundups are really excellent. Keep up the great work!

Thanks! I will!

- R

RSDavis
11-12-2007, 12:52 PM
He has a pretty good chance of actually winning NH at this point, as I see it. The odds makers are giving us 10% or so, and that's with the fact that they believe those phone polls mean something.

If he DOES win NH, the whole tenor of this thing will change within 24 hours, in a MUCH bigger way than it did following Nov 5th.

Agreed. I've been saying the same thing.