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expatriot
11-12-2007, 06:35 AM
CALL TO ARMS - BLOOD IN THE STREETS ON DEC 4,
Defy the Debate stacked in favor of more War in Iraq


On Tuesday December 04 Fox News will host a debate without Ron Paul
in Des Moines Iowa in accordance with the planning of the IOWA GOP.

This will mark the first moment that the Presidential Debates will exclude
the only viable candidate against the war in IRAQ, Ron Paul. :mad:

In consideration that the organizers have, as is certainly their priviledge,
chosen to use obsolete benchmarks and demonstrably skewed information
as the basis for excluding Ron Paul, this act must not go unanswered. :cool:

Because our military men and women will have lost their last remaining
hope for a reasonable return (alive) from Iraq, it is proposed that
the supporters of Ron Paul have an opportunity to make a statement
on the world stage, and invite those around the world to participate
in an event to oppose the continued manipulation of American Presidential
politics in favor of a foreign policy of never-ending conflict.

On that day while the Republican Presidential candidates which are
sharing a stage and agenda of continued war, it is proposed there be
a single day of blood donations by supporters of Ron Paul against
the War in Iraq to the shame and derision of the mongers of war.

In effect, giving blood at home in America to bring an end to the
continuing blood-bath in Iraq and shaming those who dare to stand for
the continuance of a war launched by lies and financed by the
tax slaves of the Federal Reserve and enforced by a Police State of Fear.

Would you give your blood to end this war?
If so, invite your friends, your families, your neighbors regardless
of their politics or nationality to

- Join the supporters of Presidential Candidate Ron Paul to
- drown the voices at the Iowa debate in blood shed to end the War in Iraq. -

Organize now for Tuesday Dec 04 - it only takes ten minutes of your time.

Sponsoring a Blood Drive (http://www.givelife2.org/sponsor/default.asp)
http://www.givelife2.org/sponsor/default.asp

This can be done internationally as well...

Give me liberty
11-12-2007, 06:55 AM
On Tuesday December 04 Fox News will host a debate without Ron Paul
in Des Moines Iowa in accordance with the planning of the IOWA GOP.

wait but i saw some threads here that fox news will have a debate and they will have ron paul.

:/

expatriot
11-12-2007, 07:08 AM
On Tuesday December 04 Fox News will host a debate without Ron Paul
in Des Moines Iowa in accordance with the planning of the IOWA GOP.

wait but i saw some threads here that fox news will have a debate and they will have ron paul.

:/

Whether he does or doesn't is one of those 'Blink' games.

Care to wait it out only to discover at the last moment they changed their mind?

The Official campaign has its hands tied,
therefore this is pure grassroots territory.

Either way,
best we stop staring at the oncoming headlights and do something.

And the symbology of those at home giving blood in defense
of the military who are being abandoned in place by the NeoCons
is a powerful message which would be made more personable
by a large number of Ron Paul supporters all appearing in
donation sites across the country all on the same day.

A Blood-Bomb, so to speak, with the results measured in media exposure.

Mortikhi
11-12-2007, 07:17 AM
Have fun with that needle in your arm.

I will be in Iowa on Dec 4 raising hell.

Menthol Patch
11-12-2007, 08:18 AM
Wait a minute.

Do we know for a fact that Ron Paul has been excluded from a debate?

We need to find out.

If so, that his horrible because we will not get into another debate.

Menthol Patch
11-12-2007, 08:21 AM
Seriously, has Ron Paul been excluded from a debate?

TooConservative
11-12-2007, 08:26 AM
Organizing a blood drive is okay but it's not really politics.

The inflammatory rhetoric here isn't helpful to the campaign or to this forum. It's very negative.

Avalon
11-12-2007, 09:04 AM
Wait a minute.

Do we know for a fact that Ron Paul has been excluded from a debate?

We need to find out.

If so, that his horrible because we will not get into another debate.

We apparently won't know until November 30th, but at that point it will be hard to do anything (significant) about it.

BillyDkid
11-12-2007, 09:15 AM
This is the problem - they are deliberately not being clear about the criteria they will or are using to include and exclude candidates. Yes, I know, there is something about where a candidate stands in the polls, but which polls specifically and from what dates? Is it national polls? Iowa polls? Is it polls from last week? If Dr. Paul is at 15% in national polls or 20% in Iowa polls on Dec. 1 will it make any difference? I have read where they intend to use polls taken well before the date of the debate for "planning purposes". I truly believe this obfuscation is deliberate. Their other tactics haven't worked so now the ploy is not to have a clear criteria so it can be whatever they need it to be when they exclude Dr. Paul. All this is just my impression of things, but I have seen nothing to convince me otherwise.

DealzOnWheelz
11-12-2007, 09:29 AM
If we are going to do a Ron Paul Blood Drive we have to contact media and let them know and also everyone should wear a ron paul shirt to go donate!!

I for one don't think this is a bad idea. There is great symbolism!! But what I think would make it better is if we held a RON PAUL RALLY FOR BLOOD directly accross the street from the debate in Iowa and have the Red Cross setup accross the street that way it is directly linked to the debate and will thus get PROFOUND MEDIA COVERAGE.


Let us all descend up[on IOWA and give our blood to prevent the BloodShed of our troops!!

great idea man!!!

justinc.1089
11-12-2007, 10:01 AM
If this goes over I will do it to protest Paul's censorship from the debate. And I am concerned if they keep him out of this debate that it will mean he won't be in any more debates as well, which will certainly be very harmful to his chances of winning.

I don't see how the media could say anything too bad, or any worse than vendetta at least, about us donating blood in order to get money to donate to Ron Paul. I think it would send a loud clear message we are extremely upset about Paul not being allowed into the debate.

xerxesdarius
11-12-2007, 10:20 AM
Debate or no debate, I think this is a great idea that will result in a TON of press coverage. Let's get some support around this people!!! A website, some signups, a video...

Fyretrohl
11-12-2007, 10:28 AM
How about, regardles of the debate situation, this be scheduled.

'Give blood for our troops, instead of asking them to give blood for us'

reduen
11-12-2007, 10:31 AM
Someone should dump the blood of soldiers and unborn children on the candidates at the debate. They should all have to deal with what they support, up close and personal.

jnpg
11-12-2007, 10:43 AM
I love the Blood Drive idea-
I am more than willing to give a pint for our troops and RP.

Is Dec 4 the date- coincide with the debate? or a different day?

ladyliberty
11-12-2007, 10:44 AM
Organizing a blood drive is okay but it's not really politics.

The inflammatory rhetoric here isn't helpful to the campaign or to this forum. It's very negative.


I AGREE! FAR TOO NEGATIVE!

Why not contact the American Red Cross and coordinate a Nation Wide Effort through them?

http://www.redcross.org/

How about Clara Barton's Birthday?

Clarissa Harlowe Barton (December 25, 1821 – April 12, 1912) was a pioneer American teacher, nurse, and humanitarian. She has been described as having had an "indomitable spirit" and is best remembered for organizing the American Red Cross.

jnpg
11-12-2007, 10:51 AM
are always a blood shortage time-
Clara's b-day is a cool idea.

JimDude
11-12-2007, 11:02 AM
I agree with this idea. Let blood be spilt on Decemeber the 4th!

alien
11-13-2007, 05:35 PM
Have fun with that needle in your arm.

I will be in Iowa on Dec 4 raising hell.

I think that this will make more "noise" than a blood drive. Not knocking the blood drive though. I just think that we will make much more noise on the streets.

american.swan
11-13-2007, 05:38 PM
I think this is a good idea.