IndoctriNation: Exposing The Nation’s Public School System

[John F Kennedy III]

IndoctriNation: Exposing The Nation’s Public School System

Infowars.com
January 27, 2012

Filmmaker Colin Gunn joins Alex in-studio to give an inside look at his film IndoctriNation, exposing the nation’s public school system and its attempts to corrupt our youth and ready them for state control, all while undermining traditional Christianity. With an eye on homeschooling as an alternative, Gunn breaks down the moral and ethical degradation posed by the modern school system.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vpkmAWkT0A&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f2_Dm-bQlE&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=325_L59_73k&feature=player_embedded


http://www.infowars.com/indoctrination-exposing-the-nations-public-school-system/

[Kluge]

You know, had a debate on homeschooling with a liberal, and her/his criticism was that I wouldn't give a kid all sides of the story, which I quickly squashed after rattling off the different economic/political/philosophical theories I intend to teach along with logical argumentation/debate...it ended with him/her simply trying to instill doubt in be that I was capable. Saying something along the lines of "it doesn't sound like you're fully prepared...," which pissed me off. (It was after I'd also rattled off the science curriculum--very broad, that I also intend to teach.) And my comment that I intend to homeschool, at least for a while, because I experienced public schools, was simply met with scorn (you sound "bitter.") Well yeah, having teachers who are bullies and students who commonly threaten your life just might make one a bit jaded to the experience.

These people who support teacher's unions that keep on abysmal employees and the dumbing down of anyone they perceive as "rich & white" are total assholes who are grasping at straws to keep one of their favorite, massively failed, social experiments going.

Meanwhile, they probably wouldn't send their own kids to these public schools where you have to focus more on staying alive than geometry. Obama's kids go to a private Quaker school, last I checked.

[Sola_Fide]

Kludge, didn't you know? You're too stupid to teach the children you love basic reading, math and history.

Besides, there aren't other people who homeschool and there aren't websites and homeschool groups tailored to help you in the specific curriculum you wanted to employ.

Believe me, its much better to have your children socialized from this day forward. How do people survive in this country without conditioning from the State from toddler on?

You wouldn't want to become a DANGER to the State, would you Kludge? You wouldn't want us to really teach you the hard way that we own your child's mind, would you Kludge?

I'm sure you'll do the right thing.

-tptb

[PierzStyx]

I don't know if I believe its straight indoctrination. I think the problem is that public schools, like public health care, has to appeal to the least common denominator. And I think that this inherent laziness in the system, combined with the laziness inherent in the modern technological era, just combines to make people lazy and therefore stupid. And stupid people believe whatever is told them. So while I don't think its direct indoctrination, its more or less so in a de facto manner.

[Kluge]

I don't know if I believe its straight indoctrination. I think the problem is that public schools, like public health care, has to appeal to the least common denominator. And I think that this inherent laziness in the system, combined with the laziness inherent in the modern technological era, just combines to make people lazy and therefore stupid. And stupid people believe whatever is told them. So while I don't think its direct indoctrination, its more or less so in a de facto manner.

That's probably closer to the truth. To think that some of these idiots who manage to get jobs as teachers are capable of participating in actual indoctrination and psychological manipulation is pretty laughable. It's systemic low standards though, that's for sure. The one thing I will say (didn't watch the OP's videos, because I can't always tolerate listening to AJ), is that it conditions kids for mediocrity at best. (Yes, there are exceptions, even in public schools--I had a few, very few.) What it DOES do, very successfully, is condition PARENTS to divorce themselves from this aspect of their child's development.

I feel the need to add a disclaimer: One of my oldest friends is a public school teacher, she's also a National Merit scholar and is quite brilliant. She's finally been placed in a more "tame" public school where she can actually teach, rather than play cop. Also--this is Amy, not Kluge. I have no idea what my account pw is, so I've been using his.

[Sola_Fide]

That's probably closer to the truth. To think that some of these idiots who manage to get jobs as teachers are capable of participating in actual indoctrination and psychological manipulation is pretty laughable. It's systemic low standards though, that's for sure. The one thing I will say (didn't watch the OP's videos, because I can't always tolerate listening to AJ), is that it conditions kids for mediocrity at best. (Yes, there are exceptions, even in public schools--I had a few, very few.) What it DOES do, very successfully, is condition PARENTS to divorce themselves from this aspect of their child's development.

I feel the need to add a disclaimer: One of my oldest friends is a public school teacher, she's also a National Merit scholar and is quite brilliant. She's finally been placed in a more "tame" public school where she can actually teach, rather than play cop. Also--this is Amy, not Kluge. I have no idea what my account pw is, so I've been using his.

Imposter!

[Kluge]

Imposter!

I may be an impostor, but at least I'm not a sock. :)

[DamianTV]

So basically, if you are not Brainwashed, you are not qualified to teach your own kids to be Brainwashed.

[RockEnds]

I began homeschooling my older children in 1998. When my youngest was born, there was never a question. She was destined to homeschool from the beginning. I did, however, take her to a preschool screening at the local elementary. I would be by her side. What could go wrong? :rolleyes:

There was a vision test. She was instructed to go into a dark closet (a long, empty broom closet) with two older ladies. My daughter was three. The women were complete strangers to her. I watched as the other little children shuffled in and out without a fuss, and I suspected my child might present a problem. Sure enough, when it was her turn to go into this dark closet alone with strangers, she resisted quite firmly. Personally, I think that displays good instincts.

There was no reason I couldn't accompany her into the dark closet inhabited by strangers except the old biddy stationed at the door refused to allow it. No problem. We won't do this test. Well, she fired back that my child would not, could not succeed at school if I didn't change my attitude. At this point, it was war. She was attempting to intimidate me and teach my daughter to ignore her instincts thereby placing herself in physical danger. I didn't really take it all that well. We continued the conversation while I slowly but steadily advanced toward her. Suddenly, one of the women popped out of the closet and invited me to enter with my daughter. They took the picture of her eyes, and then proceeded to totally miss the lazy eye that the test was designed to catch.

I'm very happy homeschooling. I don't do it for religious reasons, but I do agree that there is an agenda, and I don't care to be a part of it.

[donnay]

Everyone who has a school-aged child needs to read: The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt! Charlotte has it in pdf on her website right here (http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.sml.pdf).

[RockEnds]

John Taylor Gatto also has some books on the subject. "Dumbing Us Down" is short and worth the read.

http://books.google.com/books/about/Dumbing_us_down.html?id=KS0jIGX0sOEC

[donnay]

John Taylor Gatto also has some books on the subject. "Dumbing Us Down" is short and worth the read.

http://books.google.com/books/about/Dumbing_us_down.html?id=KS0jIGX0sOEC

Yes! John Taylor Gatto is in the documentary, IndoctriNation: Exposing the nation's public school system.

[RockEnds]

Yes! John Taylor Gatto is in the documentary, IndoctriNation: Exposing the nation's public school system.

A teacher in our school district loaned that book to me moments after I pulled my kids out of public school in 1998. It helped me to set my priorities and develop a plan for educating my children at home. It also helped me to understand why resolving problems with the school had been impossible. I wish I would have read it four or five years earlier. It would have saved time and trouble.

[FrankRep]

http://images.christianpost.com/middle/48327/a-poster-for-the-film.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006074Q3O/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B006074Q3O)




IndoctriNation: Public Schools and the Decline of Christianity in America is a powerful and highly provocative film designed to wake up the Christian parents of America and show them what is happening to their children in the public schools.


IndoctriNation: A Powerful Film for Christian Parents (http://thenewamerican.com/opinion/sam-blumenfeld/10439-indoctrination-a-powerful-film-for-christian-parents)


Sam Blumenfeld | The New American (http://thenewamerican.com/)
05 January 2012

[heavenlyboy34]

Imposter!
lol :D

[RockEnds]

Iserbyt's book is long, and I must admit, I've only read parts of it. I'm certain I won't finish the book today, but this certainly caught my eye:


(p 32)
IN 1942 TIME MAGAZINE (MARCH 16, 1942) RAN AN EXTENSIVE ARTICLE IN ITS RELIGION section
dealing with a proposal by Protestant groups in the United States for a plan of action toward
“a just and durable peace” for the years following the end of World War II. Excerpts from
Time’s “American Malvern” follow:

These are the high spots of organized U.S. Protestantism’s super-protestant new
program for a just and durable peace after World War II:

• Ultimately, “a world government of delegated powers.”
• Complete abandonment of U.S. isolationism.
• Strong immediate limitations on national sovereignty.
• International control of all armies and navies.
• A universal system of money... so planned as to prevent inflation and deflation.
• Worldwide freedom of immigration.
• Progressive elimination of all tariff and quota restrictions on world trade.
• “Autonomy for all subject and colonial peoples” (with much better treatment
for Negroes in the U.S.).
• “No punitive reparations, no humiliating decrees of war guilt, no arbitrary
dismemberment of nations.”
• A “democratically controlled” international bank “to make development capital
available in all parts of the world without the predatory and imperialistic aftermath
so characteristic of large-scale private and governmental loans.”

This program was adopted last week by 375 appointed representatives of 30-odd
denominations called together at Ohio Wesleyan University by the Federal Council of
Churches. Every local Protestant church in the country will now be urged to get behind
the program. “As Christian citizens,” its sponsors affirmed, “we must seek to translate
our beliefs into practical realities and to create a public opinion which will insure that
the United States shall play its full and essential part in the creation of a moral way
of international living.”...

The meeting showed its temper early by passing a set of 13 “requisite principles for
peace” submitted by Chairman John Foster Dulles and his inter-church Commission to
Study the Basis of a Just and Durable Peace. These principles, far from putting all the
onus on Germany or Japan, bade the U.S. give thought to the short-sightedness of its own
policies after World War I, declared that the U.S. would have to turn over a new leaf if
the world is to enjoy lasting peace....

Some of the conference’s economic opinions were almost as sensational as the
extreme internationalism of its political program. It held that “a new order of economic
life is both imminent and imperative”—a new order that is sure to come either “through
voluntary cooperation within the framework of democracy or through explosive political
revolution.” Without condemning the profit motive as such, it denounced various defects
in the profit system for breeding war, demagogues and dictators, “mass unemployment,
widespread dispossession from homes and farms, destitution, lack of opportunity for youth
and of security for old age.” Instead, “the church must demand economic arrangements
measured by human welfare... must appeal to the Christian motive of human service as
paramount to personal gain or governmental coercion.”

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,801396,00.html

[donnay]

http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.sml.pdf

Page 14 The deliberate math dumbing down! If I knew how to copy and paste a pdf I would.

[Endgame]

... all while undermining traditional Christianity.

Sounds like someone is pissed the public schools aren't indoctrinating people they way they want them to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTRDRP2n4Sk&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLED0CD8784DCCCDD4

[donnay]

I came across this and thought this was appropriate to put it here:


Walt Disney Cartoon - Hitler's Children Education For Death


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASW3UCc17AI&skipcontrinter=1

[donnay]

Sounds like someone is pissed the public schools aren't indoctrinating people they way they want them to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTRDRP2n4Sk&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLED0CD8784DCCCDD4

See that is just it, public schools should not be indoctrinating period! I pissed because I forced to pay for it regardless!!