Ron Paul in Maine: Visit to USM Gorham is creating a stir

[sailingaway]

Politically informed students are interested, along with those who are happy because 'not much happens in Gorham.'


Camire said he's glad but surprised that Paul's campaign workers want to hold the event at USM's rural Gorham campus, instead of its more urban Portland campus. About 10 percent of USM's 9,300 students live in dorms on the Gorham campus; the rest live off campus or commute from towns around southern Maine.

"USM isn't always blessed with such cool people coming to campus," Camire said, noting that university administrators are working together to make plans for parking, public safety and Paul's campaign security.

Camire, 20, a sophomore from Auburn who's studying technology management, declined to discuss his political views about the election in general or Paul in particular.

"My No. 1 priority is to get more students interested and involved in the election," Camire said. "I'm hoping (Paul) will open the event up to questions and answers because I'd like to ask him a few questions myself."

I hope they get to ask questions, too.

[fixed link] http://www.pressherald.com/news/ron-paul-in-maine-visit-to-usm-gorham-is-creating-a-stir_2012-01-25.html

[LBennett76]

That link connects to his response to Obama's SOTU address.

[Mahkato]

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[Mahkato]

"Ron Paul wouldn't be my candidate of choice anyway," Rothgaber said. "I like his foreign policy best out of all the Republicans, but I'd go for Romney because he's the least right. I think the world would like us a little bit better if we didn't have our foot down everyone's throat."

Yeah, and a Romney administration is going to do that.


"I don't know much about him," Connelly said. "I normally just wait until it's time to vote, and then my mom and dad tell me who I should vote for."

/facepalm


"Ron Paul is a shock that our political system needs," said Getchell, 23, of York. "He has been consistent in his views, especially foreign policy. He can't be bought."

Nice closer for the article.

[ByeByeBernanke]

"Ron Paul wouldn't be my candidate of choice anyway," Rothgaber said. "I like his foreign policy best out of all the Republicans, but I'd go for Romney because he's the least right. I think the world would like us a little bit better if we didn't have our foot down everyone's throat."

What an idiot.

[sailingaway]

http://www.pressherald.com/news/ron-paul-in-maine-visit-to-usm-gorham-is-creating-a-stir_2012-01-25.html

:o

[Sentinelrv]

"Ron Paul wouldn't be my candidate of choice anyway," Rothgaber said. "I like his foreign policy best out of all the Republicans, but I'd go for Romney because he's the least right. I think the world would like us a little bit better if we didn't have our foot down everyone's throat."

Lol, this is the definition of clueless.

[moonbat]

"Ron Paul wouldn't be my candidate of choice anyway," Rothgaber said. "I like his foreign policy best out of all the Republicans, but I'd go for Romney because he's the least right. I think the world would like us a little bit better if we didn't have our foot down everyone's throat."

What an idiot.

Idiot is an understatement... What the hell is he even talking about?

[unknown]

"My No. 1 priority is to get more students interested and involved in the election," Camire said. "I'm hoping (Paul) will open the event up to questions and answers because I'd like to ask him a few questions myself."

Doesnt exactly sound like a fan.

[D.A.S.]

Boy it sure sounds like Paul better book a whirlwind tour of the college campuses before the caucus! A lot of confusion to clear up!

[alucard13mmfmj]

I hope Maine's college kids will go for Paul and show up for vote time. If all we need is a couple thousand to win, then so be it. i really, really hope young people wont let us down by not showing up T_T;;

[r3volution]

"I don't know much about him," Connelly said. "I normally just wait until it's time to vote, and then my mom and dad tell me who I should vote for." i see some1 will be moving back to there parents home when they are done with collage .

[sailingaway]

I hope Maine's college kids will go for Paul and show up for vote time. If all we need is a couple thousand to win, then so be it. i really, really hope young people wont let us down by not showing up T_T;;

Yeah. Half the schools in NH were still on break during caucus, and in Iowa they all were. These will be the first where they aren't. It will be interesting to see if that makes a difference.

[pauliticalfan]

Wow, what an idiot. Romney is the least right though, as in the least correct.

[DerailingDaTrain]

Why are people so uninformed and clueless that it hurts me physically? I cringe when I hear statements like that ("I just vote for whoever my parents tell me") and you guys wonder why the youth never turn up to vote for us. Why does he even need to open it up to questions? After a million debates, interviews, websites, blogs, and editorials he can't find the answer to his two questions on the internet? I am really starting to question the intelligence of most people in this country.

[Carole]

OMG. Is this a student? The next generation?

Tragic, just tragic. :(

[sailingaway]

Why are people so uninformed and clueless that it hurts me physically? I cringe when I hear statements like that ("I just vote for whoever my parents tell me") and you guys wonder why the youth never turn up to vote for us. Why does he even need to open it up to questions? After a million debates, interviews, websites, blogs, and editorials he can't find the answer to his two questions on the internet? I am really starting to question the intelligence of most people in this country.

I disagree about the questions. There are CONFLICTING things on the internet as people get his positions wrong. He needs to explain them. It IS research to attend an event like this.

[eduardo89]

"Ron Paul wouldn't be my candidate of choice anyway," Rothgaber said. "I like his foreign policy best out of all the Republicans, but I'd go for Romney because he's the least right. I think the world would like us a little bit better if we didn't have our foot down everyone's throat."

What an idiot.

He's right though. Romney is the least everything (except consistent) because his positions change as often as Gingrich's wives.

[Liberty74]

Idiot is an understatement... What the hell is he even talking about?

He doesn't even know like most people when they talk.

[Matt Davidson]

Ahhh. Gorham is over-fluoridated. That explains these responses!

http://www.pressherald.com/news/state-urges-water-districts-to-cut-fluoride-now_2011-01-11.html

[ChrisDixon]

Guys, don't fret. It's just the Portland Pravda, who aren't exactly fair when it comes to conservative causes.

We're getting a good response up here. That's what's important. It doesn't matter what people think right now, because they WILL show up to the event just to see someone big on their campus. If Paul hits it big, we will make gains.

[seapilot]

Guys, don't fret. It's just the Portland Pravda, who aren't exactly fair when it comes to conservative causes.

We're getting a good response up here. That's what's important. It doesn't matter what people think right now, because they WILL show up to the event just to see someone big on their campus. If Paul hits it big, we will make gains.

I think that making an appearance in Maine will help with turn out and motivation. Unlike Iowa and NH they sound like they never get any political action. The media may not mention it or write it off if RP wins there because it is so small, but at least it would be a win. Someone needs to be at the campuses recruiting people for the caucuses because many probably do not understand where and how to vote in them.

[LiveForHonortune]

From what my sister who lives there tells me, they're not exactly excited or happy about Ron. They're a state of moderates aka Rombots and neocons. I utterly despise their senators.

[ChrisDixon]

I think that making an appearance in Maine will help with turn out and motivation. Unlike Iowa and NH they sound like they never get any political action. The media may not mention it or write it off if RP wins there because it is so small, but at least it would be a win. Someone needs to be at the campuses recruiting people for the caucuses because many probably do not understand where and how to vote in them.

Agreed. We have a Youth for Ron Paul chapter leader here and he's a very intelligent young guy. His outreach is effective in recruiting new people.


From what my sister who lives there tells me, they're not exactly excited or happy about Ron. They're a state of moderates aka Rombots and neocons. I utterly despise their senators.

Luckily, one of those senators has an opponent. :D

A lot of people are excited about Ron here, they're just not politically active. Many of the people I'm working with are the under-the-radar types. This is going to rock the establishment if we pull off a win.

[dfalken]

Why are people so uninformed and clueless that it hurts me physically? I cringe when I hear statements like that ("I just vote for whoever my parents tell me") and you guys wonder why the youth never turn up to vote for us. Why does he even need to open it up to questions? After a million debates, interviews, websites, blogs, and editorials he can't find the answer to his two questions on the internet? I am really starting to question the intelligence of most people in this country.

There is no need to question the intelligence, all you have to do is remember that 1 out of every 2 people has a double digit IQ. It scares me just to think about this fact.

[GraniteHills]

From what my sister who lives there tells me, they're not exactly excited or happy about Ron. They're a state of moderates aka Rombots and neocons...

Maine and NH, as American political and historical folklore go, supposedly are home to the rugged individualists that hark back to the stubborn, proud Thoreaus and Websters of old tyme New England. Liberty, everyone is told, is all that's on the minds of the rough and tough loggers and lumbermen, laborers and carpenters, artists and philosophers, and fishermen and farmers in colonial states like these.

I wish the folklore was closer to reality than it is. There are two extremely moderate states. MIC jobs define southern NH and ME, where many commute to places like Raytheon and BAE in Massachusetts. That also happens to be the state where many of the current Granite Staters and Mainers used to live, and they bring their middle-of-the road vanilla politics with them.

A mundane snoozer like Romney fits the bill for a lot of people up here. As the previous poster wrote, the voters' track records speak for themselves.

[sailingaway]

Maine and NH, as American political and historical folklore go, supposedly are home to the rugged individualists that hark back to the stubborn, proud Thoreaus and Websters of old tyme New England. Liberty, everyone is told, is all that's on the minds of the rough and tough loggers and lumbermen, laborers and carpenters, artists and philosophers, and fishermen and farmers in colonial states like these.

I wish the folklore was closer to reality than it is. There are two extremely moderate states. MIC jobs define southern NH and ME, where many commute to places like Raytheon and BAE in Massachusetts. That also happens to be the state where many of the current Granite Staters and Mainers used to live, and they bring their middle-of-the road vanilla politics with them.

A mundane snoozer like Romney fits the bill for a lot of people up here. As the previous poster wrote, the voters' track records speak for themselves.

I didn't used to vote in primaries. Why bother, there was no one good. There are a lot of people who feel that way, and in a caucus state, getting them out is the key.

[ChrisDixon]

Maine and NH, as American political and historical folklore go, supposedly are home to the rugged individualists that hark back to the stubborn, proud Thoreaus and Websters of old tyme New England. Liberty, everyone is told, is all that's on the minds of the rough and tough loggers and lumbermen, laborers and carpenters, artists and philosophers, and fishermen and farmers in colonial states like these.

I wish the folklore was closer to reality than it is. There are two extremely moderate states. MIC jobs define southern NH and ME, where many commute to places like Raytheon and BAE in Massachusetts. That also happens to be the state where many of the current Granite Staters and Mainers used to live, and they bring their middle-of-the road vanilla politics with them.

A mundane snoozer like Romney fits the bill for a lot of people up here. As the previous poster wrote, the voters' track records speak for themselves.

We were moderate...until the Republicans won the Legislature and Governor for the first time since the seventies. They did this with some strong Tea Party legislative candidates and a controversial Tea Party governor. There's been a major shift up here.

Maine has a history of being more receptive to outside-of-the-box thinkers, being more accepting of Independents and independent thinkers than most. For example, our Governor almost lost...to an Independent, whereas the Democratic gubernatorial candidate lagged big time.

Ron Paul's message could really click here, because he's not establishment. In essence, he's an Independent. At heart, he's not with any one party, but with his conviction and principles.

As for Republicans go, the only ones who want Romney are the establishment types. And they sort've lost hard in 2010 and that message was sent very clear when the Tea Party candidate Paul LePage, who was polling in the low single digits up until primary day, ran away with the gubernatorial primary with more than DOUBLE what the establishment front runner Les Otten got. Otten, also by far spent the most money.

I can't stress it enough here. Maine is winnable.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Yeah. Half the schools in NH were still on break during caucus, and in Iowa they all were. These will be the first where they aren't. It will be interesting to see if that makes a difference.SO is Ron on the campaign trail to hit townhalls or campuses? What's more effective at this point?


Maine College System

University of Maine (http://www.umaine.edu/)- Orono
University of Maine at Augusta (http://www.uma.maine.edu/)
University of Maine at Farmington (http://www.umf.maine.edu/)
University of Maine at Fort Kent (http://www.umfk.maine.edu/)
University of Maine at Machias (http://www.umm.maine.edu/)
University of Maine at Presque Isle (http://www.umpi.maine.edu/)
University of Southern Maine (http://www.usm.maine.edu/)- Portland
Maine Maritime Academy (http://www.mainemaritime.edu/)
Bowdoin College (http://www.campusexplorer.com/colleges/2F5092B2/Maine/Brunswick/Bowdoin-College/)
Colby College (http://www.campusexplorer.com/Colby-College/)



Maine Community College System (http://www.mccs.me.edu/)
Central Maine Community College (http://www.cmcc.edu/)
Eastern Maine Community College (http://www.emcc.edu/)
Kennebec Valley Community College (http://www.kvcc.me.edu/)
Northern Maine Community College (http://www.nmcc.edu/)
Southern Maine Community College (http://www.smccme.edu/)
Washington County Community College (http://www.wccc.me.edu/)
York County Community College (http://www.yccc.edu/)

[sailingaway]

We were moderate...until the Republicans won the Legislature and Governor for the first time since the seventies. They did this with some strong Tea Party legislative candidates and a controversial Tea Party governor. There's been a major shift up here.

Maine has a history of being more receptive to outside-of-the-box thinkers, being more accepting of Independents and independent thinkers than most. For example, our Governor almost lost...to an Independent, whereas the Democratic gubernatorial candidate lagged big time.

Ron Paul's message could really click here, because he's not establishment. In essence, he's an Independent. At heart, he's not with any one party, but with his conviction and principles.

As for Republicans go, the only ones who want Romney are the establishment types. And they sort've lost hard in 2010 and that message was sent very clear when the Tea Party candidate Paul LePage, who was polling in the low single digits up until primary day, ran away with the gubernatorial primary with more than DOUBLE what the establishment front runner Les Otten got. Otten, also by far spent the most money.

I can't stress it enough here. Maine is winnable.

Unfortunately, and weirdly, tea party 'types' are being snowed that somehow Newt the Lobbyist is tea party.

[IndianaPolitico]

SO is Ron on the campaign trail to hit townhalls or campuses? What's more effective at this point?


Maine College System

University of Maine (http://www.umaine.edu/)- Orono
University of Maine at Augusta (http://www.uma.maine.edu/)
University of Maine at Farmington (http://www.umf.maine.edu/)
University of Maine at Fort Kent (http://www.umfk.maine.edu/)
University of Maine at Machias (http://www.umm.maine.edu/)
University of Maine at Presque Isle (http://www.umpi.maine.edu/)
University of Southern Maine (http://www.usm.maine.edu/)- Portland
Maine Maritime Academy (http://www.mainemaritime.edu/)
Bowdoin College (http://www.campusexplorer.com/colleges/2F5092B2/Maine/Brunswick/Bowdoin-College/)
Colby College (http://www.campusexplorer.com/Colby-College/)



Maine Community College System (http://www.mccs.me.edu/)
Central Maine Community College (http://www.cmcc.edu/)
Eastern Maine Community College (http://www.emcc.edu/)
Kennebec Valley Community College (http://www.kvcc.me.edu/)
Northern Maine Community College (http://www.nmcc.edu/)
Southern Maine Community College (http://www.smccme.edu/)
Washington County Community College (http://www.wccc.me.edu/)
York County Community College (http://www.yccc.edu/)

Looks like both: http://www.facebook.com/#!/RP2012ME

[GraniteHills]

We were moderate...until the Republicans won the Legislature and Governor for the first time since the seventies. They did this with some strong Tea Party legislative candidates and a controversial Tea Party governor. There's been a major shift up here.

Maine has a history of being more receptive to outside-of-the-box thinkers, being more accepting of Independents and independent thinkers than most. For example, our Governor almost lost...to an Independent, whereas the Democratic gubernatorial candidate lagged big time.

Ron Paul's message could really click here, because he's not establishment. In essence, he's an Independent. At heart, he's not with any one party, but with his conviction and principles.

As for Republicans go, the only ones who want Romney are the establishment types. And they sort've lost hard in 2010 and that message was sent very clear when the Tea Party candidate Paul LePage, who was polling in the low single digits up until primary day, ran away with the gubernatorial primary with more than DOUBLE what the establishment front runner Les Otten got. Otten, also by far spent the most money.

I can't stress it enough here. Maine is winnable.

Hey Chris,

Yeah, I hear you. I always wonder, though, how much LePage in particular and the Tea Party in general benefited from that once-every-couple-of-years contagion the electorate experiences when it rouses (at leasy temporarily!) from its slumber. You're right, NH and Maine certainly are receptive to liberty politics. To me, it's whether the reception is temporary or enduring. Our track record in NH, for example, is pretty woefully vanilla. I think Gordon Humphrey might have been the last conservative we had in NH; I remember he scored very high on that rubric, the link to which I forget. That was a damn long time ago...

[ChrisDixon]

Unfortunately, and weirdly, tea party 'types' are being snowed that somehow Newt the Lobbyist is tea party.

Not here. Our Tea Party here for the most part hates Newt. I know of one Romney supporter in the TP movement and a few Rick Santorum supporters. But the Tea Party here in Maine has developed a reputation among conservative activists, as one put it to me once, as being "hijacked by the Paulbots."


Hey Chris,

Yeah, I hear you. I always wonder, though, how much LePage in particular and the Tea Party in general benefited from that once-every-couple-of-years contagion the electorate experiences when it rouses (at leasy temporarily!) from its slumber. You're right, NH and Maine certainly are receptive to liberty politics. To me, it's whether the reception is temporary or enduring. Our track record in NH, for example, is pretty woefully vanilla. I think Gordon Humphrey might have been the last conservative we had in NH; I remember he scored very high on that rubric, the link to which I forget. That was a damn long time ago...

Well, it could be temporary, as the Tea Party to some degree has faded. And LePage's win might've had a lot to do with the split liberal vote between the Independent who surged and the Democrat who collapsed. But it can be done.

Here, it's pretty much Romney vs. Paul. Santorum is hurting us though, because many people I've spoken to who like Paul but aren't "with us", aren't with us because of his foreign policy. It's not that they disagree with his foreign policy necessarily, but they have concerns. Paul doesn't inspire confidence.

If Ron can hit a couple home runs this weekend, we'll score big. But Santorum could really hurt our potential growth among more mainstream Republicans who are sympathetic to liberty...as ironic as that is.

[seapilot]

I didn't used to vote in primaries. Why bother, there was no one good. There are a lot of people who feel that way, and in a caucus state, getting them out is the key.

I keep thinking back to that poll in the last National election only 60% of the people that are able to vote turned out. That is 40% of apathetic voters that can be turned on to Ron Paul which are more likely attracted to an anti establishment than a Romney. If the people that caucused for Ron Paul last time could bring just 2 new people in Maine they would have it wrapped up. I bet Romney, Grinch and Santorum do not even step foot in Maine.

[Student Of Paulism]

It's not that they disagree with his foreign policy necessarily, but they have concerns. Paul doesn't inspire confidence.


Well, that's because Ron never explicitly states (with intensity) that he will protect America at all costs and respond swiftly to whoever would be responsible for attacking us. He doesn't make people feel safe enough, it's always 'we can't do this, we cant' do that' message, which is great, yes, but what will he do WHEN it happens, or it is imminent? You see, he never touches on that enough. He did in some speeches now and then on the trail, but hell, i don't remember the last time he did in a debate. People feel like Ron would allow us to be pushed over and stand by and do nothing, hence the pacifist label by some.

Another major flaw as ive pointed out before, and ill say it again, is he never attack Obama enough. This is the guy we are trying to replace, not Flip, Stay Puft or Waldo. How many times do we see Mitt mention Obama in the debates. Yea, EVERY SINGLE TIME:

"We have a president that...This president cannot....Our president has shown himself to be....We cannot afford to have this president keep...President Obama has done the opposite....This president has shown himself to be weak on...."

Same with Newt (and pretty much every other candidate too who dropped out), making endless comparisons, contrasts and taking pot shots at Obama. If you guys want to think this means nothing, well keep thinking that, because it hurts Ron more than you know. It makes it seem like he doesn't care about dethroning Obama and serious about the presidency and then people wonder why the msm spins that narrative all the time. Well, that is just one of the reasons right there. This shows people you are serious. It shows YOU WANT TO BE THE PRESIDENT by firing bullets and exposing the incumbents weaknesses and contrasting yourself to those weaknesses. Ron never does this in debates and it's a major flaw and he rarely ever does it in campaign events as well.

Anyway, sure hope someone in the campaign tells him to speak on those things more and say it with a lot of PASSION too. It's not always what you say, but HOW you say it. Ron said MLK was one of his heroes, well...there is a man to take some speaking pointers from, that is for sure.

[ChrisDixon]

I keep thinking back to that poll in the last National election only 60% of the people that are able to vote turned out. That is 40% of apathetic voters that can be turned on to Ron Paul which are more likely attracted to an anti establishment than a Romney. If the people that caucused for Ron Paul last time could bring just 2 new people in Maine they would have it wrapped up. I bet Romney, Grinch and Santorum do not even step foot in Maine.

Interesting you say that, because I'm find A LOT of support in people who have never had an interest in politics before. Many of the delegates I've found are people who never before have gotten involved.

The GOP should love us. We're going to boost their numbers like crazy.

[ChrisDixon]

Well, that's because Ron never explicitly states (with intensity) that he will protect America at all costs and respond swiftly to whoever would be responsible for attacking us. He doesn't make people feel safe enough, it's always 'we can't do this, we cant' do that' message, which is great, yes, but what will he do WHEN it happens, or it is imminent? You see, he never touches on that enough. He did in some speeches now and then on the trail, but hell, i don't remember the last time he did in a debate. People feel like Ron would allow us to be pushed over and stand by and do nothing, hence the pacifist label by some.

EXACTLY what I've been saying. I got a couple softballs in my pocket. Depending on how many questions they allow for people, I might see about throwing some. ;)

[sailingaway]

Not here. Our Tea Party here for the most part hates Newt. I know of one Romney supporter in the TP movement and a few Rick Santorum supporters. But the Tea Party here in Maine has developed a reputation among conservative activists, as one put it to me once, as being "hijacked by the Paulbots."



Well, it could be temporary, as the Tea Party to some degree has faded. And LePage's win might've had a lot to do with the split liberal vote between the Independent who surged and the Democrat who collapsed. But it can be done.

Here, it's pretty much Romney vs. Paul. Santorum is hurting us though, because many people I've spoken to who like Paul but aren't "with us", aren't with us because of his foreign policy. It's not that they disagree with his foreign policy necessarily, but they have concerns. Paul doesn't inspire confidence.

If Ron can hit a couple home runs this weekend, we'll score big. But Santorum could really hurt our potential growth among more mainstream Republicans who are sympathetic to liberty...as ironic as that is.

Yeah, Ron has to quit saying what he WON'T do and start focusing on what he WOULD do. WE all know he has much more targetted and effective defense plans than we are using now, but too much of the general populace thinks 'he won't do anything.'

[sailingaway]

Well, that's because Ron never explicitly states (with intensity) that he will protect America at all costs and respond swiftly to whoever would be responsible for attacking us. He doesn't make people feel safe enough, it's always 'we can't do this, we cant' do that' message, which is great, yes, but what will he do WHEN it happens, or it is imminent? You see, he never touches on that enough. He did in some speeches now and then on the trail, but hell, i don't remember the last time he did in a debate. People feel like Ron would allow us to be pushed over and stand by and do nothing, hence the pacifist label by some.

Another major flaw as ive pointed out before, and ill say it again, is he never attack Obama enough. This is the guy we are trying to replace, not Flip, Stay Puft or Waldo. How many times do we see Mitt mention Obama in the debates. Yea, EVERY SINGLE TIME:

"We have a president that...This president cannot....Our president has shown himself to be....We cannot afford to have this president keep...President Obama has done the opposite....This president has shown himself to be weak on...."

Same with Newt (and pretty much every other candidate too who dropped out), making endless comparisons, contrasts and taking pot shots at Obama. If you guys want to think this means nothing, well keep thinking that, because it hurts Ron more than you know. It makes it seem like he doesn't care about dethroning Obama and serious about the presidency and then people wonder why the msm spins that narrative all the time. Well, that is just one of the reasons right there. This shows people you are serious. It shows YOU WANT TO BE THE PRESIDENT by firing bullets and exposing the incumbents weaknesses and contrasting yourself to those weaknesses. Ron never does this in debates and it's a major flaw and he rarely ever does it in campaign events as well.

Anyway, sure hope someone in the campaign tells him to speak on those things more and say it with a lot of PASSION too. It's not always what you say, but HOW you say it. Ron said MLK was one of his heroes, well...there is a man to take some speaking pointers from, that is for sure.

the anti Obama carping really is partisan which may fire up GOP but turns off cross over voters and most independents who want solutions, not attacks.

[brendan.orourke]

Ron's not going to gain any GOP or 40+ voters unless he really starts going after Obama like the other 3 are. That's why people don't think he's electable or can beat Obama, cause he doesn't talk like he can, but the other 3 do.

[Birdlady]

"Ron Paul wouldn't be my candidate of choice anyway," Rothgaber said. "I like his foreign policy best out of all the Republicans, but I'd go for Romney because he's the least right. I think the world would like us a little bit better if we didn't have our foot down everyone's throat."


Lol, this is the definition of clueless.



What an idiot.


Idiot is an understatement... What the hell is he even talking about?

Oh but this quote is from a man and I thought only women were emotional, apathetic idiots who don't know anything about politics? ;)

[Gary4Liberty]

Romnuts and Grinch will slash each other to ribbons and will stand proudly on Convention day streaming with blood, limping with broken limbs and mortally wounded unable to compete against Obama. Santorum will have dropped out due to lack of funding and lack of votes. Ron Paul will be the last man standing strong and fresh and will get the nomination by default and will beat Obama by drawing from the left, the right, the middle and the independent and youth vote in a landslide victory. The country will be restored. The constitution will be lifted up as the blueprint of the government. The personal income tax will be abolished. The United States will recover and be restored to full health.

[Gary4Liberty]

Oh but this quote is from a man and I thought only women were emotional, apathetic idiots who don't know anything about politics?

You do have quotes to support this right?

[Student Of Paulism]

Someone mentioned Raytheon here before too. This is yet another MIC Defense Contractor that Slick Mitt has ties to. Bain bought up a 350 million dollar sub company of theirs having to do with laundry equipment and such. This was in 98. In 05, when he was gov of Mass, he then used Raytheon to help Mass Police with Intel and Data fetching/filing and other statistical crap for 2 mil contract. So yea, he is bed with them too. This guys tentacles all over the place when it comes to the MIC and Mega Banks. This definitely helps him for the people working in that industry in NH/ME/MASS.