The Establishment's Plan B: Ron as a third party candidate

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So what if Giuliani actually threatens to defeat Hillary ?

The establishment is taking precautions. It seems to be doing so by starting to promote a plan that could see Ron Paul running as a third-party candidate. You can see this unfolding, for instance, in his favorable treatment on CNN’s “Situation Room.” And could Dr. Paul really have begun suddenly to raise enormous amounts of campaign cash without someone in the establishment giving a green light?

Ron Paul as a candidate would obviously generate enormous excitement. But he could end up playing the same role as Ross Perot in the 1992 election, where Perot allowed disgruntled voters to let off steam while drawing enough votes to allow Bill Clinton to defeat George H.W. Bush.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7307

[Ron Paul Fan]

Rudy is part of the establishment. Ron Paul will the the Republican Party nominee.

[pcosmar]

Not a chance,Gulli has no chance of beating Hillery.
Ron Paul is NOT going to be Third Party.
Ron Paul will be President.

[JenaS62]

Not a chance,Gulli has no chance of beating Hillery.
Ron Paul is NOT going to be Third Party.
Ron Paul will be President.



I love your optimism! Would it not be the most wonderful thing in the world to see Hillary's face if Ron Paul is elected as president? Now that would make a great Mastercard commercial. PRICELESS!

[Goldwater Conservative]

Ron Paul as a candidate would obviously generate enormous excitement. But he could end up playing the same role as Ross Perot in the 1992 election, where Perot allowed disgruntled voters to let off steam while drawing enough votes to allow Bill Clinton to defeat George H.W. Bush.

Ross Perot was actually leading in the polls for a while. What killed him was dropping out for a few weeks before jumping back in.

Plus, no matter what his opponents might claim, Ron Paul is not as kooky as Perot, nor does he come across that way. I think it'd be a much more successful independent candidacy... but like others have said, it'll be unnecessary. :D

[Daveforliberty]

The establishment does not care if Hillary or Rudy or Fred or Barack or (insert establishment candidate here) wins. They just don't want Ron Paul to win.

Yes, they would love for Ron to announce RIGHT NOW that he's running third party. Failing that, they continually ask him if he'll do it if he fails to get the nomination. Being brilliant as usual, Ron doesn't take the bait.

It is imperative that Ron Paul continues to say he has no intentions of running third party. It is imperative that he goes all the way to the Republican convention, gathering as many delegates as he can along the way, and speaks to America (and to opponents delegates) at the convention.

By doing this, at a minimum Ron Paul can rock the nation and build the foundation for the freedom movement in stone. At best, he will be our next president.

[xao]

Ron Paul will win the nomination but if for some reason chaos ensues and something illegal happens, All of Ron's supporters will spread the word to write him in as an independent in the last few months. We are great at getting the word out and I can promise that i'll be online 24/7 telling people and by word of mouth as well.

No one is going to vote for hillary or guiliani anyway. In fact guiliani might look slightly worse to republicans than hillary and I'm a Republican saying this. So don't expect true republicans to vote for giuliani if the shit hits the fan.

[hard@work]

The only thing they want is for Ron Paul to stop. He will win if he's in the general. You think that the $4 we raised in 1 day can't be tripled by March 08?

[american.swan]

The establishment does not care if Hillary or Rudy or Fred or Barack or (insert establishment candidate here) wins. They just don't want Ron Paul to win.

Yes, they would love for Ron to announce RIGHT NOW that he's running third party. Failing that, they continually ask him if he'll do it if he fails to get the nomination. Being brilliant as usual, Ron doesn't take the bait.

It is imperative that Ron Paul continues to say he has no intentions of running third party. It is imperative that he goes all the way to the Republican convention, gathering as many delegates as he can along the way, and speaks to America (and to opponents delegates) at the convention.

By doing this, at a minimum Ron Paul can rock the nation and build the foundation for the freedom movement in stone. At best, he will be our next president.

I agree with this. We need to organize donation days all the way to the convention. And keep Ron in no matter what!! Make the delegates choose the fate of this nation. And Ron Paul should also stay in all the way to the electoral collage vote also if he looses the general election.

[xcalybur]

I don't blame Ron Paul for not wanting to run as a 3rd party candidate. He really would have no chance of winning. The best 3rd party candidate in the last 100 years only got 18% and he was a billionaire (Ross Perot). The only shot we have is to get Ron Paul the nomination. If he can be the republican nomination he can beat any democrat. The only ones I think would put up a good fight would be Barack Obama and Dennis Kucinich. Kucinich doesn't really have a chance to win and Barack is going for Vice President. It would be hilarious if Kucinich and Paul went at it because they would announce that they aren't going to go against each other and they would claim each other as Vice President. Talk about confusing everyone.

[Man from La Mancha]

There is no way to compare any other independent candidate with Dr. Paul. No other candidate ran on freedom and the rule of law like Ron does, none!! If he doesn't make the primaries because of some inconceivable reason. He has the ability to win as an independent. We can raise whatever money he needs. Even at inflation rate 10 million irate supporters donating $100 = 1 billion

It did not take a billion dollars.

Perot campaigned in 16 states and spent an estimated $65.4 million of his own money. Perot employed the innovative strategy of purchasing half-hour blocks of time on major networks for infomercial-type campaign ads; these ads garnered more viewership than many sitcoms, with one Friday night program in October attracting 10.5 million viewers
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[Flash]

Ron Paul would never win as a third party candidate.

[Margo37]

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[Midnight77]

I disagree with Paul being discounted as a 3rd Party Candidate. I think his chances would be much better, because times are much different, and people are absolutely sick of Republicans and Democrats. Paul is the only one of the Front Runners on either side that is against the War and has a different message. Plus, he would get even more exposure with it being limited to only him, Giuliani, and Clinton. I actually think his chances would be much better than we think.

People despise Giuliania.

People despise Clinton.

This country has never been more divided then it is right now.

[klamath]

They just don't get it do they! As a consistant long time republican voter I will not be voting for any of the other candidates, no matter what. I am not going to drift back and vote for the lesser of to evils again.

[Ncturnal]

I don't blame Ron Paul for not wanting to run as a 3rd party candidate. He really would have no chance of winning. The best 3rd party candidate in the last 100 years only got 18% and he was a billionaire (Ross Perot). The only shot we have is to get Ron Paul the nomination. If he can be the republican nomination he can beat any democrat. The only ones I think would put up a good fight would be Barack Obama and Dennis Kucinich. Kucinich doesn't really have a chance to win and Barack is going for Vice President. It would be hilarious if Kucinich and Paul went at it because they would announce that they aren't going to go against each other and they would claim each other as Vice President. Talk about confusing everyone.

I really don't get everyone's obsession with Kucinich running as a VP with Paul or vice versa. Aside from the war issue they really don't have anything in common. I know Kucinich talks Constitution, but he only votes it to a point. Case in point: http://www.nolanchart.com/article285.html You can't be a Constitutionalist and a Socialist. The idea of a Paul/Kucinich ticket is utterly retarded and I don't see how anyone familiar with Kucinich's positions could even utter such nonsense.

[Dequeant]

Ron Paul has said he "has no intentions" for running as a 3rd party.

However, he has also said he won't quit so long as his support remains strong.



That's pretty clear to me, as long as we keep supporting him, he'll keep fighting.

[Proemio]

Ron Paul has said he "has no intentions" for running as a 3rd party.

However, he has also said he won't quit so long as his support remains strong.



That's pretty clear to me, as long as we keep supporting him, he'll keep fighting.

Yup - perfectly clear.
I can't believe how anyone can doubt his committment to us and the cause.
It's for the (s)election machine to decide how, but run he will - and win.