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Matt Collins
01-22-2012, 11:37 PM
USF Tampa Debate (1/23/12) NBC 21:00 ET



9pm ET/8pm CT and 9pm PT on NBC (http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012/01/nbc-newstamp-bay-times-gop-debate-tonight-on-nbc/) – Live Stream (http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012/01/nbc-newstamp-bay-times-gop-debate-tonight-on-nbc/)
Location: University of South Florida (http://www.usf.edu/debate2012/) in Tampa, Florida
Sponsor: The Tampa Bay Times, NBC News, the National Journal and the Florida Council of 100


This is the OFFICIAL thread! :cool:



Looks like this is the OFFICIAL stream:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/ns/politics/#.Tx4QpPmGcYw

Paulite
01-22-2012, 11:53 PM
stop using this military time nonsense

neverseen
01-22-2012, 11:58 PM
Check this thread below for pre Debate sign/banner making and sign bombing! Going to be a HUGE grassroots presence in the area. The media is going to CRAP when they see 4 30' long banners lining the streets and 500 supporters with signs and banners hanging from everything in the area LOL

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?354533-Grassroots-prep-work-for-USF-debate

QWDC
01-22-2012, 11:59 PM
Not looking forward to a bunch of insider figures booing Ron (keep it classy, establishment). At least you know somewhere out there, another person at home is getting a truth bomb dropped on them, which will lead to them doing some indy research on RP.

thehungarian
01-23-2012, 12:00 AM
Ugh, I thought there weren't going to be any more debates for a while.

AngryCanadian
01-23-2012, 12:23 AM
stop using this military time nonsense
21:00 military time means 9:00 PM Civilian Time.

moonshine5757
01-23-2012, 12:25 AM
he better use this time to attack newt and romney and bring up the media bias.

IterTemporis
01-23-2012, 12:26 AM
I would of driven to USF if they had been selling tickets to the public.

Bruno
01-23-2012, 12:30 AM
Check this thread below for pre Debate sign/banner making and sign bombing! Going to be a HUGE grassroots presence in the area. The media is going to CRAP when they see 4 30' long banners lining the streets and 500 supporters with signs and banners hanging from everything in the area LOL

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?354533-Grassroots-prep-work-for-USF-debate

Amazing grassroots effort, + rep!

Can't wait to see the pics and video. :D

torchbearer
01-23-2012, 12:31 AM
zulu?

Feelgood
01-23-2012, 12:34 AM
Reserved.

Lord Xar
01-23-2012, 12:41 AM
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/155473_10150604810082604_502217603_11485617_212604 1109_n.jpg

Edward
01-23-2012, 12:43 AM
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/155473_10150604810082604_502217603_11485617_212604 1109_n.jpg

Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!

+ rep

Tyler_Durden
01-23-2012, 01:49 AM
I read somewhere that college students were not allowed to attend the debate. Is that true? What do we know about the audience selection or make up?

At the SC Fox debate where the "golden rule" was booed and Newt received standing ovations, it was determined that many in the audience were SCGOP silver Elephant Group members, an apparently Neo-con friendly group....

Edward
01-23-2012, 01:51 AM
Count on Ron to be asked a question about opening relations with Cuba in an attempt to draw the Cuban-American vote away from him.

Lord Xar
01-23-2012, 02:00 AM
Count on Ron to be asked a question about opening relations with Cuba in an attempt to draw the Cuban-American vote away from him.

You are probably right.

ZanZibar
01-23-2012, 08:56 AM
stop using this military time nonsenseIt's not "military" time, it's 24 hour time, and makes much more sense BTW.

pauliticalfan
01-23-2012, 09:02 AM
Yeah, hopefully there are no Silver Assholes in the crowd this time.

IDefendThePlatform
01-23-2012, 09:13 AM
What's the twitter hashtag(s) for tonight?



Edit: looks like #FLdebate

purepaloma
01-23-2012, 09:59 AM
Could be a really good debate now that Mitt/Newt are in FULL BATTLE mode.

JK/SEA
01-23-2012, 10:13 AM
uh, just one comment here, and this concerns the 3 stooges poster..................EPIC.

thankyou. It is now replacing my Ron and Joe Rogan pic on the Jay Leno show on my desktop.

newbitech
01-23-2012, 10:27 AM
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/155473_10150604810082604_502217603_11485617_212604 1109_n.jpg

Oh man, I'd love to get that on some placards to post up around key locations in Florida. That is just an amazing contrast right there.

luctor-et-emergo
01-23-2012, 10:32 AM
Gingrich looks a bit like Hannibal Lecter in that pic.

newbitech
01-23-2012, 10:35 AM
Out of curiosity, how much would it be worth to have that image splattered all over the national debate tonight?

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/155473_10150604810082604_502217603_11485617_212604 1109_n.jpg

speciallyblend
01-23-2012, 10:35 AM
proud to say thanks to revpac , i have not watched cnn,fox or msnbc news since the sc primary. I have no plans to watch fox,cnn or msnbc, screw them. cnn,fox and msnbc are dead in my book.

Fermli
01-23-2012, 10:47 AM
The debate is 2 hours long, right?

newbitech
01-23-2012, 11:06 AM
Sketchup Girl Supports Ron Paul

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6749776815_834b7dd9a9.jpg

LisaNY
01-23-2012, 11:27 AM
Gingrich looks a bit like Hannibal Lecter in that pic.

yeah, a really fat Hannibal Lecter.

tfurrh
01-23-2012, 11:30 AM
stop using this military time nonsense

because calling the 24 hours in a day by their hour is such nonsense.

wgadget
01-23-2012, 11:33 AM
I personally see Swingrich as Caligula.

angelatc
01-23-2012, 11:36 AM
because calling the 24 hours in a day by their hour is such nonsense.

When in doubt, Matt's an idiot. The 24 hour clock is simply not the way most people think, which makes it harder for people to figure out. AM and PM they get.

smithtg
01-23-2012, 11:39 AM
gawd the obama news network running it tonight? found this nugget

It will be moderated by NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams, and include panelists Adam C. Smith of the Tampa Bay Times and Beth Reinhard of National Journal.

one article from adam smith
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/florida-test-ron-paul

beth reinhard - pretty biased

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/paul-has-enthusiasm-in-n-h-but-has-he-already-peaked--20120107

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/12/will-ron-pauls-supporters-vote-gop-in-2012/250715/

should be a fun crowd of losers running this one

torchbearer
01-23-2012, 11:40 AM
newt getting a boost helps us.
a three man race is how we win. two man race we lose.
and the more gingrich supporters hate romney, the better for us. and vice-versa.
now we can sit back and play nice guy why those two eat each other's lunch.

RecoveringNeoCon
01-23-2012, 11:57 AM
9PM PT? Booooooooo

Guess we're gonna have to do the live stream online here on the West Coast

RonPaul101.com
01-23-2012, 12:19 PM
Here's a new angle I want to throw out there to see what people think...

Romney and Santorum have been out of a leadership role for about 5 years, Gingrich over a decade; so why not draw attention to that fact? Could it have any impact or not? Something like, "I was back in Washington fighting for less spending, fighting against the debt ceiling issues, and that was just last Wednesday. Unlike you Mr Speaker who have been absent from government too long to be able to lead on day one as President, unless we can count your time as a lobbyist as tenure in government?"

Will this arguement of 'current service in government' back fire on us?

wgadget
01-23-2012, 12:20 PM
9PM PT? Booooooooo

Guess we're gonna have to do the live stream online here on the West Coast

9pm ET.

HOLLYWOOD
01-23-2012, 12:36 PM
That's great, I made this one up after the debate with a screen capture, but your's is much better! ;)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/RON%20PAUL%202012/3whore_Statesman_DEAL1.jpg


http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/155473_10150604810082604_502217603_11485617_212604 1109_n.jpg

RecoveringNeoCon
01-23-2012, 12:44 PM
9pm ET.

That's what I assumed initially, but the press release says "9pm ET, 8PM CT, and on the west coast at 9PM PT" - which means a 3 hour delay here on the west coast.

Weird..........could be a typo.

TwoJ
01-23-2012, 02:25 PM
Was going to set up DVR and I don't see the debate anywhere, am I missing something?

libertygrl
01-23-2012, 02:31 PM
Not looking forward to a bunch of insider figures booing Ron (keep it classy, establishment). At least you know somewhere out there, another person at home is getting a truth bomb dropped on them, which will lead to them doing some indy research on RP.

I know. I'm not going to subject myself to Ron Paul standing all the way over in the corner again and hardly getting any questions. Now that he came in 4th place the blackout is going to get even worse again. He needs to start getting aggresive when they intentionally skip over him.

pauliticalfan
01-23-2012, 02:33 PM
All I'm gonna say is, if Ron doesn't GO THE F OFF about the TSA, it's gonna be a huge opportunity missed.

stuntman stoll
01-23-2012, 02:42 PM
Was going to set up DVR and I don't see the debate anywhere, am I missing something? last I saw, they still had fear factor on the nbc schedule. I read a news article saying that nbc will be showing it, but because they hadn't gotten confirmation from mittens until today, they didn't put it on the schedule

TwoJ
01-23-2012, 02:45 PM
last I saw, they still had fear factor on the nbc schedule. I read a news article saying that nbc will be showing it, but because they hadn't gotten confirmation from mittens until today, they didn't put it on the schedule

Perfect thanks - +rep

RonPaul101.com
01-23-2012, 03:34 PM
I know. I'm not going to subject myself to Ron Paul standing all the way over in the corner again and hardly getting any questions. Now that he came in 4th place the blackout is going to get even worse again. He needs to start getting aggresive when they intentionally skip over him.

Or be like Mitt and just answer the question with what ever you care to talk about.

Moderator: So Dr Paul, why aren't you actively campaigning here in Florida? Is it because of your last place finish in SC?

Paul: I'm glad you brought up the debt ceiling crisis...

JK/SEA
01-23-2012, 03:39 PM
its time.

Johnnybags
01-23-2012, 04:17 PM
bump

jcarcinogen
01-23-2012, 04:24 PM
Is this going to air on msnbc?

Indy Vidual
01-23-2012, 04:26 PM
NBC tonight, nice, thanks for the alert.

Dr.3D
01-23-2012, 04:33 PM
Yeah, hopefully there are no Silver Assholes in the crowd this time.

Wow, you just gave me a great idea for a new type of silver round.

alex_florida
01-23-2012, 04:35 PM
I would of driven to USF if they had been selling tickets to the public.

me too

dancjm
01-23-2012, 04:38 PM
anyone have a stream?

thanks.

Created4
01-23-2012, 04:45 PM
I checked my Time Warner listing and do not see this debate listed tonight??

TwoJ
01-23-2012, 04:50 PM
I checked my Time Warner listing and do not see this debate listed tonight??

----


last I saw, they still had fear factor on the nbc schedule. I read a news article saying that nbc will be showing it, but because they hadn't gotten confirmation from mittens until today, they didn't put it on the schedule

pauliticalfan
01-23-2012, 05:50 PM
NBC live stream anyone?

ZanZibar
01-23-2012, 05:56 PM
NBC live stream anyone?prolly on www.MSNBC.com

pacelli
01-23-2012, 05:57 PM
So just as a heads up, evidently USF wasn't selling tickets to members of the public, NOR the students at USF.

We're dealing with a stacked audience going in, folks. Heads up.

pauliticalfan
01-23-2012, 06:00 PM
prolly on www.MSNBC.com

I'd rather watch an actual NBC broadcast livestream, to see what headlines and other shenanigans they pull.

matt0611
01-23-2012, 06:02 PM
I'm in the Boston area (comcast) and on my NBC it shows Fear Factor at 9est and on MSNBC it shows The Rachel Maddow Show.

Am I missing something here?

ericthethe
01-23-2012, 06:07 PM
So just as a heads up, evidently USF wasn't selling tickets to members of the public, NOR the students at USF.

We're dealing with a stacked audience going in, folks. Heads up.

Yep, I have a bad feeling Paul is going to get heavily booed again.

MsDoodahs
01-23-2012, 06:11 PM
I'm not going to watch, will read what you guys are saying about it.

Tina
01-23-2012, 06:16 PM
I'm in the Boston area (comcast) and on my NBC it shows Fear Factor at 9est and on MSNBC it shows The Rachel Maddow Show.

Am I missing something here?

Directv is showing the debate at 8 pm. NBC channel 4. Not MSNBC.

jcarcinogen
01-23-2012, 06:48 PM
NBC live stream anyone?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/ns/politics-politics/t/nbc-politics/

maryiscontrary
01-23-2012, 06:48 PM
God I hope he is aggressive tonight. He needs to bark more.

dancjm
01-23-2012, 06:49 PM
I always get confused by the time over their, does it start in just over an hour?

georgiaboy
01-23-2012, 06:49 PM
bump

steph3n
01-23-2012, 06:50 PM
I am watching Atlas Shrugged on DVD... waiting on the debate.

steph3n
01-23-2012, 06:50 PM
I always get confused by the time over their, does it start in just over an hour?

Yes, it does it is 7:50PM Eastern now.

TheCaliforniaLife
01-23-2012, 06:53 PM
Yep, I have a bad feeling Paul is going to get heavily booed again.
I imagine it. The corporate sponsors are the ones handing out the tickets. How dare they allow pro-liberty people in the audience!

alex_florida
01-23-2012, 06:54 PM
Is it on at 8pm EST or 9pm EST?

ConsideringRonPaul
01-23-2012, 06:54 PM
So I'm guessing this thread means NBC decided on the debate over Fear Factor?

steph3n
01-23-2012, 06:56 PM
So I'm guessing this thread means NBC decided on the debate over Fear Factor?

Couldn't have joe Rogan wearing an RP shirt now could we? :D

yatez112
01-23-2012, 07:01 PM
So Gingrich just released his Freddie Mac information (or some of it)...

He says he was hired as a historian.

Given his sly and deceitful moves in debates, Ron needs to call him on this.

Only within a gov't agency could a historian be hired to help manage government mortgages...and be paid $25,000 per month.

angelatc
01-23-2012, 07:01 PM
Couldn't have joe Rogan wearing an RP shirt now could we? :D

Maybe the debate will be hosted by Rogan, and will be in a format that we're totally not expecting!

pcgame
01-23-2012, 07:03 PM
bump

dancjm
01-23-2012, 07:04 PM
Yes, it does it is 7:50PM Eastern now.

Thanks!

Kords21
01-23-2012, 07:05 PM
Maybe the debate will be hosted by Rogan, and will be in a format that we're totally not expecting!

That would be epic!

angelatc
01-23-2012, 07:07 PM
That would be epic!

Let's make Rick eat cockroaches. ;)

steph3n
01-23-2012, 07:07 PM
Let's make Rick eat cockroaches. ;)

Rat hair tortilla chips for Newt!

Edu
01-23-2012, 07:10 PM
http://www.rentadrone.tv/debate/

or

http://www.rentadrone.tv/msnbc-live-rockinroosters/

Maybe! Can't tell but it said NBC debate tonight, someone please confirm.

Publicani
01-23-2012, 07:11 PM
I just clicked through a few news channels. Fox, MSNBC,...
Mitt. Newt, and occasional Rick. No mention of Paul.
We know that they didn't let students in the audience.
The cards are stacked.
During the debate, they will marginalize Ron Paul.
His arms wavering will not be enough - he will be ignored.
Unless he does something dramatic - it's over.

bunklocoempire
01-23-2012, 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by angelatc

Let's make Rick eat cockroaches

Rat hair tortilla chips for Newt!

I think eating a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights would repulse them more!


GO PAUL!!!

toast
01-23-2012, 07:14 PM
Maybe the debate will be hosted by Rogan, and will be in a format that we're totally not expecting!

Santorum has to answer all his questions from the nearby gay club.

Edward
01-23-2012, 07:15 PM
I just clicked through a few news channels. Fox, MSNBC,...
Mitt. Newt, and occasional Rick. No mention of Paul.
We know that they didn't let students in the audience.
The cards are stacked.
During the debate, they will marginalize Ron Paul.
His arms wavering will not be enough - he will be ignored.
Unless he does something dramatic - it's over.

Brett Baier had a panel on earlier (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/index.html#/v/1410112710001/republicans-plan-for-sunshine-state-showdown/?playlist_id=86927) who talked about Ron and that it was obvious that Gingrich was adopting some of Ron's ideas, presumably to carry favor with him in the convention.

Bruno
01-23-2012, 07:16 PM
Brett Baier had a panel on earlier (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/index.html#/v/1410112710001/republicans-plan-for-sunshine-state-showdown/?playlist_id=86927) who talked about Ron and that it was obvious that Gingrich was adopting some of Ron's ideas, presumably to carry favor with him in the convention.

They actually said that? They will never be invited on the show again.

George_K
01-23-2012, 07:17 PM
I'm watching msnbc through the stream and they are having a go with saying Europeeeaaan like its an insult, without ever bringing an argument whats so bad about the Europeeeaaan way?

They are talking about the upcoming debate like its some kind of wrestling match. They talk about anything but the actual issues.

"If they would do a mud fight, who would win?"

Steve-in-NY
01-23-2012, 07:17 PM
No point in watching this. We all know what's going to happen. Paul will be off to the side, hardly in camera shot, he will get passed over, unless its a setup question. He won't get rebuttals in. They will cut off his answers. Then, in the post debate if they bring him up at all it will be to marginalize and/or attack/ridicule him.

Then, if paul does amazing and comes away the clear winner, it will be under reported, and what is reported will be an effort to marginalize, discredit, attack or marginalize him.
Complete waste of time and not worth getting me pissed off over.

Hope I'm wrong... But im not.
Enjoy it if you want. I pass. I'm done w the media as a whole.

Adam West
01-23-2012, 07:17 PM
It is 11:15 in the morning here in Australia. I am working at home today and listening to music.

I put on some "Pink Floyd," and two words struck me.

"Comfortably numb"

Says it all...

Bruno
01-23-2012, 07:19 PM
It is 11:15 in the morning here in Australia. I am working at home today and listening to music.

I put on some "Pink Floyd," and two words struck me.

"Comfortably numb"

Says it all...

+ rep for Pink Floyd

phill4paul
01-23-2012, 07:21 PM
WTF? Not on MSNBC channel. The NBC page won't load the debate. WTF? What if you held a debate and no one heard? :rolleyes:

Adam West
01-23-2012, 07:22 PM
+ rep for Pink Floyd

Hahaha. Good on ya MATE!

steph3n
01-23-2012, 07:22 PM
WTF? Not on MSNBC channel. The NBC page won't load the debate. WTF? What if you held a debate and no one heard? :rolleyes:

Still 38 minutes :)

Edward
01-23-2012, 07:22 PM
They actually said that? They will never be invited on the show again.

It was Charles Krauthammer who made that assertion. I believe he said that Newt wasn't trying to gain our support, but Ron's.

Bruno
01-23-2012, 07:22 PM
Only at RPF can you have 87 posts and nearly 2000 views on a debate thread with more than half an hour before the debate actually starts. :D

phill4paul
01-23-2012, 07:23 PM
Still 38 minutes :)

gotcha. thanks.

Edward
01-23-2012, 07:23 PM
Only at RPF can you have 87 posts and nearly 2000 views on a debate thread with more than half an hour before the debate actually starts. :D

We rule!

Hyperion
01-23-2012, 07:23 PM
It's time for Ron to plant the seeds for the states post Florida.

cindy25
01-23-2012, 07:25 PM
is this internet only? NBC sched shows Fear Factor

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/

KramerDSP
01-23-2012, 07:25 PM
No point in watching this. We all know what's going to happen. Paul will be off to the side, hardly in camera shot, he will get passed over, unless its a setup question. He won't get rebuttals in. They will cut off his answers. Then, in the post debate if they bring him up at all it will be to marginalize and/or attack/ridicule him.

Then, if paul does amazing and comes away the clear winner, it will be under reported, and what is reported will be an effort to marginalize, discredit, attack or marginalize him.
Complete waste of time and not worth getting me pissed off over.

Hope I'm wrong... But im not.
Enjoy it if you want. I pass. I'm done w the media as a whole.

See, I was thinking this the whole day. And I still can't help myself. I'm a sucker for pain. Why do we put ourselves through this? And I bet it is a million times worse for Paul being on stage with these criminals and liars.

pacelli
01-23-2012, 07:26 PM
Is it on at 8pm EST or 9pm EST?

9 PM eastern. Evidently one of the 2012 presidential primary websites had the date wrong, listed as 8pm eastern, which has caused a lot of confusion.

steph3n
01-23-2012, 07:28 PM
no wonder Atlas shrugged tanked at the box office, it is the definition of 'this movie sucks'

Edward
01-23-2012, 07:30 PM
Why do we put ourselves through this?

I imagine that it has something to do with intermittent rewards. At least once a debate, Ron throws out a zinger that has me pumping my fist (e.g. "I'm the Commander in Chief", "embassy the size of the Vatican", exchange with Santorum in last debate).

Bruno
01-23-2012, 07:32 PM
On debate night, if your stomach isn't in knots, you're not doing it right. :D

bunklocoempire
01-23-2012, 07:32 PM
Only at RPF can you have 87 posts and nearly 2000 views on a debate thread with more than half an hour before the debate actually starts. :D

We know how to tailgate! :D


Goooo LIBERTY!!!

NinjaPirate
01-23-2012, 07:33 PM
Uhhh, I don't see it anywhere on the TV! O.o

steph3n
01-23-2012, 07:34 PM
Uhhh, I don't see it anywhere on the TV! O.o

Still 27 minutes my friend.

SlowSki
01-23-2012, 07:34 PM
did anyone see the video Ron just put on his facebook.... so awesome!

KramerDSP
01-23-2012, 07:34 PM
For the newbies...

Settings >> Advanced Settings >> Scroll to the bottom, adjust to 40 posts per page >> Save

4 times less the clicking for the debate threads.

dancjm
01-23-2012, 07:34 PM
did anyone see the video Ron just put on his facebook.... so awesome!

Post here please?

Kords21
01-23-2012, 07:36 PM
Hope the other candidates had to drive through that showing of Ron Paul supporters

MJU1983
01-23-2012, 07:36 PM
Is the debate on in all markets? NBC @ 8pm CST for me shows a new episode of Fear Factor...? :(

NinjaPirate
01-23-2012, 07:37 PM
Still 27 minutes my friend.

I know that, but it's not on the tv listings.

cdw
01-23-2012, 07:37 PM
did anyone see the video Ron just put on his facebook.... so awesome!
Just saw it. Wow. I see why the scumbags at NBC banned students and general population from the debate tonight.

Might as well take my advil right now so that it kicks in by the time the debate starts. It's gonna be a long night.

Adam West
01-23-2012, 07:37 PM
On debate night, if your stomach isn't in knots, you're not doing it right. :D

I pre-plan. Make sure I don't have to drive and buy a bottle of Vodka or Scotch.

Achieves about 50% results... Gotta keep some fire in the belly!

Kords21
01-23-2012, 07:38 PM
Dr. Paul is going to be pumped after that welcome from the crowd outside. He's going to need it to endure the stacked audience inside.

yeshuaisiam
01-23-2012, 07:39 PM
Ron has got to absolutely be stunning or do something dramatic or its over folks. Skip the B.S. questions and address the camera and tell the American people that our economy will collapse, the debt will never be repaid, and none of the candidates are offering REAL solutions except for him.

The nation needs HARD facts, slowly delivered, to understand the danger we are in. He needs to address that the other candidates do not want to tell the people of the danger we are in financially, because "nobody wants to face hard facts".

Screw all the detour questions and just say what he wants. Address the cruelty and non-constitutional acts that the TSA did to his son and let the people know that as president he'll put a stop to the disgusting behavior of the TSA.

That's it. Dangerous finances. TSA.

If they continue to ignore him, speak up and demand to be heard. State the media is biased obviously, and want to pick the candidate for the people. State the dangerous facts, warn the people, let them know slowly and clearly that he has a real plan for this danger, and then WALK OFF.

Somethings got to happen, because the same ol same ol, well folks, he was in 4th place in SC and isn't polling that great in FL. Shine, drama, or its done.

KramerDSP
01-23-2012, 07:39 PM
did anyone see the video Ron just put on his facebook.... so awesome!

Yep, that's great! Are we doing something similar for the Thursday debate?

matt0611
01-23-2012, 07:39 PM
Check out the scene on the way to the debate, posted by Paul on facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151193984565215

SlowSki
01-23-2012, 07:42 PM
I can't stop watching that video....:D

Kords21
01-23-2012, 07:42 PM
Is there a reliable stream for this debate?

Revolution9
01-23-2012, 07:43 PM
stop using this military time nonsense

Old hard bitten Sarge was at a party and this cute little hottie comes up to him a bit before midnite after drinks had flowed for a bit and liking a man in a uniform and starts teasing him and asks him when the last time he had sex was. "Nineteen fifty seven ma'am". She grabs him and hauls him off to a spare room telling him she will loosen him up. They get it on and emerge form the bedroom. She tells him "That was great for someone who hasn't had sex for decades." Old Sarge looked down at his watch and replies "Decades ma'am? By my reckonin' it's now twenty three forty five so that was about five hours ago".

Rev9

Steve-in-NY
01-23-2012, 07:45 PM
Old hard bitten Sarge was at a party and this cute little hottie comes up to him a bit before midnite after drinks had flowed for a bit and liking a man in a uniform and starts teasing him and asks him when the last time he had sex was. "Nineteen fifty seven ma'am". She grabs him and hauls him off to a spare room telling him she will loosen him up. They get it on and emerge form the bedroom. She tells him "That was great for someone who hasn't had sex for decades." Old Sarge looked down at his watch and replies "Decades ma'am? By my reckonin' it's now twenty three forty five so that was a about than five hours ago".

Rev9worth it. I lold

MJU1983
01-23-2012, 07:47 PM
Is there a reliable stream for this debate?

According to Ron's FB page: You can catch it live here: http://www.nbcpolitics.com/

Barrex
01-23-2012, 07:48 PM
Did this started I dont see live feed on NBC Politics? Any other feed?

Sarge
01-23-2012, 07:48 PM
:D

PursuePeace
01-23-2012, 07:48 PM
According to Ron's FB page: You can catch it live here: http://www.nbcpolitics.com/

thanks.

Kords21
01-23-2012, 07:49 PM
According to Ron's FB page: You can catch it live here: http://www.nbcpolitics.com/

Thanks!

PursuePeace
01-23-2012, 07:50 PM
Did this started I dont see live feed on NBC Politics? Any other feed?

It hasn't started yet, starts in about 10 minutes.

BUSHLIED
01-23-2012, 07:52 PM
is this airing nationally? I can't find it on comcast cable. Anyone?

moderate libertarian
01-23-2012, 07:52 PM
Any good online stream links to watch debate?

mikeforliberty
01-23-2012, 07:52 PM
8 minutes!

mike6623
01-23-2012, 07:53 PM
It's not on tv? Can't see it anywhere on my guide

kmalm585
01-23-2012, 07:53 PM
This isn't being broadcast on TV? I'm from PA.

cdw
01-23-2012, 07:54 PM
It will be on tv yes.

devil21
01-23-2012, 07:55 PM
What's the point of a debate that isn't on tv at all? Nobody will see it except us hardcore politics nerds. Boo.

jamezelle
01-23-2012, 07:55 PM
cant find it on ohio time warner cable

Feelgood
01-23-2012, 07:56 PM
Should I bother to record the stream?

ronpaulfollower999
01-23-2012, 07:57 PM
Jesse Ventura was the answer to one of the questions on this stupid game show.

alucard13mmfmj
01-23-2012, 07:57 PM
Should I bother to record the stream?

would be nice ^^;; i dont want to give msnbc ratings/views. plus their stream is failing

kylejack
01-23-2012, 07:57 PM
Don't want to read 14 pages, but is this really happening? My DVR guide is showing Fear Factor...

pauliticalfan
01-23-2012, 07:58 PM
Boeing.

Bruno
01-23-2012, 07:58 PM
It's an NBC debate, for those who were asking.

Fort Lauderdale
01-23-2012, 07:58 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/ns/politics-politics/t/nbc-politics/

pauliticalfan
01-23-2012, 07:58 PM
Killer whale.

mikeforliberty
01-23-2012, 07:58 PM
Don't want to read 14 pages, but is this really happening? My DVR guide is showing Fear Factor...

For Ron Paul fear is not a factor.

ronpaulfollower999
01-23-2012, 07:59 PM
Don't want to read 14 pages, but is this really happening? My DVR guide is showing Fear Factor...

Starts in 2 minutes.

cdw
01-23-2012, 07:59 PM
NBC is airing it, regardless of what the guides are saying. MSNBC should be airing it too.

Adam West
01-23-2012, 07:59 PM
I'm going to listen to "Pulp Fiction" in the background and rely on you guys to give me the blow by blow. Pouring a "Irish Coffee" now...

Tina
01-23-2012, 07:59 PM
cant find it on ohio time warner cable

It will be at 8 pm in Ohio. NBC

ronpaulfollower999
01-23-2012, 07:59 PM
Killer whale.

I knew orca was whale. Didn't get the killer part.

Wonder where those people go when they drop.

Oddone
01-23-2012, 08:00 PM
In the DFW area the Debate will be on KXAS, which shows NBC. ATT Uverse shows it fixing to come on. Check your local station who usually shows NBC.

Tina
01-23-2012, 08:00 PM
I'm going to listen to "Pulp Fiction" in the background and rely on you guys to give me the blow by blow. Pouring a "Irish Coffee" now...

One of my all time favorite movies. :D

mikebz5
01-23-2012, 08:00 PM
Debate on NBC!

devil21
01-23-2012, 08:00 PM
Ok its on after all.

jamezelle
01-23-2012, 08:00 PM
its 9pm in ohio right now debate is on!

bluesc
01-23-2012, 08:00 PM
Starting on the stream!

Publicani
01-23-2012, 08:00 PM
sTARTED!

steph3n
01-23-2012, 08:00 PM
If your TV says Fear Factor, put it there anyway, it is the debate :)

Kords21
01-23-2012, 08:01 PM
Let's get ready to rumble

green73
01-23-2012, 08:01 PM
Hey, it's Greenspan's wife. This should be fair.

tuggy24g
01-23-2012, 08:01 PM
Well lets see if they give Ron Paul speaking time and Ron Paul can nail this debate like he did last time. Good debates are what is key to get Ron Pauls message out since we all know the media will not!!

axlr
01-23-2012, 08:01 PM
Let's begin with Speaker Gingrich...

Bruno
01-23-2012, 08:01 PM
If Ron brings up Rand's detainment by the TSA, slam a beer/drink/smoke a bowl. :)

IterTemporis
01-23-2012, 08:01 PM
Someone mentioned that they thought they would ask Paul about Cuba.. I believe that you are right, judging by the introduction.

ronpaulfollower999
01-23-2012, 08:01 PM
Notice how Ron's pic was further from the white house. Psyc ops much?

AlexG
01-23-2012, 08:01 PM
Wait a minute this aint Fear Factor

Publicani
01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
cUBA WILL BE DISCUSSED!

MsDoodahs
01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
I don't want to watch it but I'm tuned in for now.

We shall see how long I can tolerate the bullshit.

IDefendThePlatform
01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
Twitter war starts now:

https://twitter.com/#!/TonyStuntz/status/161629529524277248

fisharmor
01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
thank god no anthem

The Gold Standard
01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
Congressman Paul, since you believe that Social Security is unconstitutional, what would you do for the seniors that would die in the street should you become president?

steph3n
01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
Good intro so far....Paul is on the far right side though :(

devil21
01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
They're calling for no audience reactions whatsoever. Let's see how it works.

pauliticalfan
01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
Wow, low blow Brian.

jonhowe
01-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Not a good 1st question for us...

Kords21
01-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Already running with the electability issue, Paul/Romney had better bring up the ballot access issue

Bruno
01-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Good intro so far....Paul is on the far right side though :(

Better than the far left

jamezelle
01-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Wow, low blow Brian.

i know right

steph3n
01-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Newt gets the first question AGAIN?!!!

Oddone
01-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Already not anwsering the question!

freneticentropy
01-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Gingrich invokes Reagan within first 5 seconds. Drink!

ronpaulfollower999
01-23-2012, 08:03 PM
"Electability, do you have any sir?"

Bruno
01-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Third word "Reagan". Drink!

Jack Bauer
01-23-2012, 08:04 PM
Reagan already?

But it just started...

Screw it. I'm playing the GOP-Reagan drinking game from the start!

bronc_fan23
01-23-2012, 08:04 PM
Normally the debate's hashtag is already trending. Nothing so far on Twitter.

FrancisMarion
01-23-2012, 08:04 PM
Newt just described Ron Paul.....

Cinderella
01-23-2012, 08:04 PM
Anyone else notice the emphasis of 3 candidates?

axlr
01-23-2012, 08:04 PM
Let's begin with Speaker Gingrich...

Called it, yes!

Nate-ForLiberty
01-23-2012, 08:04 PM
Ron Paul needs to mention that Newt and Rick aren't on the ballot in whatever states and therefore can't get those 500+ delegates. Making them literally unelectable.

KramerDSP
01-23-2012, 08:04 PM
Wait a minute this aint Fear Factor

Are you sure? I feel like I'm a contestant right now.

Sunstruck-Eden
01-23-2012, 08:04 PM
"Electability, do you have any sir?"

Ah, the moment I became a Ron Paul supporter. ;)

Tobias2dope
01-23-2012, 08:04 PM
Newt Seems drunk / sick tonight. Which strangely makes him sound better

Bruno
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
"The only time in your lifetime, Brian, that a speaker of the house was nailed with $300,000 in ethics violations"

Jack Bauer
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
Newt's I left = I was removed for ethics violations.

fisharmor
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
Did everyone else's stream just lock up?

Machiavelli
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
Ron Paul needs to mention that Newt and Rick aren't on the ballot in whatever states and therefore can't get those 500+ delegates. Making them literally unelectable.
this

Oddone
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
Gingrich is full of crap. Lol he was kicked out...

tuggy24g
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
I thought that it was only 60 seconds? Why is newt getting like more time?

WD-NY
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
Ron should point out that the idea of Newt being "an outsider" or that he's "anti-establishment" = a joke.

Also, looks like Ron wore the jacket that doesn't fit right again?

axlr
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
Ok so 1st Gingrich, 2nd Romney

3rd Santorum
4th Romney
5th Gingrich

etc.

Kords21
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
Can Newt answer any question without it being 95% buzzwords?

RonPaulRules
01-23-2012, 08:05 PM
Newt ran out of aqua net

Adam West
01-23-2012, 08:06 PM
One of my all time favorite movies. :D

We need Samuel L. Jacksons endorsement!

I hope Ron Paul strikes with "Great Vengeance and Anger."

I think I'll make myself a "Kahunna Burger."

LloydLiberty
01-23-2012, 08:06 PM
This is on the main NBC channel

Jack Bauer
01-23-2012, 08:06 PM
Does Mitt have an MBA?

He talks all bull and doesn't back it up what-so-ever.

He MUST have an MBA.

eleganz
01-23-2012, 08:06 PM
OMG....ROMNEY ATTACKING SOMEBODY...WOW....


whos with me?

devil21
01-23-2012, 08:06 PM
Hey! Where's my Fear Factor? What is this politics crap? I don't pay for tv to watch these old guys talk. Where's my remote? Honey get me a beer and the chips.

John F Kennedy III
01-23-2012, 08:06 PM
Its not on?

green73
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Lame cop-out newter

thehungarian
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
WARSHHHH-ington

Oddone
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Have to give props to Romney. Although Newt just bullshits and acts like it is all lies. When in doubt, just pretend.

steph3n
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Newt says they are lies....uhuh..

pauliticalfan
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Wow...

Kords21
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Newt seems a little off his game tonight

JVParkour
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
well, mitt has already surpassed the 1 minute time limit and he talked once...haha

Muwahid
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
I can see what kinda debate this is gonna be

kathy88
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
I'm nauseous already

bluesc
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Debate fatigue. Can't watch.

angelatc
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Trivia question:

In debates, The Olympics are to Mitt as 9/11 was to ____ ________ .

ghengis86
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
OMG....ROMNEY ATTACKING SOMEBODY...WOW....


whos with me?

me!!

tuggy24g
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
WOW give Newt and Mitt an hour in the first hour of the debate

MrGoose
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
It's just going to be Newt Romney...

MJU1983
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
Has Ron said anything? I was in the can.

Tobias2dope
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
WTF!!!!!! Mitt and Newt 2 speaking times each so far and couting@@!@#@#$#@$@# STOP THEM STOP THEM

Rudeman
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
"Don't believe me" - Newt Gingrich

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Bruno
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
Silly me, I thought there were four guys still in the race.

Ekrub
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
Comcast in washington state, it's not on. Is there only a stream?

KramerDSP
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
Romney seems rattled to me. The pressure is on to him. Gingrich is trying to brush the issues aside as much as he can and make it about Obama.

flightlesskiwi
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
newt threw a shoutout about his website.

something that's a GOOD idea.

Refresh the Tree
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
Newt, Rom, Newt, Rom.... here we go

green73
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
Newtered!

fisharmor
01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
I am so singularly uninterested in watching leather muppets call each other liars tonight.

GunnyFreedom
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
LMAO @ Grinch "all those bad things he said about me are fase, I'm not going to refute them just as John McCain" :rolleyes:

Publicani
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
AS if only two people on stage. Scam.

thehungarian
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
There is too much silence in the background. It's unnerving.

Bruno
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
Trivia question:

In debates, The Olympics are to Mitt as 9/11 was to ____ ________ .

+ rep

When that's all you got, that's all you got.

WD-NY
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
Gingrich needs to get destroyed tonight. So far so good.

IterTemporis
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
I am actually glad to see Romney attacking Newt. When you are looking at this from the outside and understand what is going on, it's very interesting to watch.

BrunswickGuy
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
This is gonna be a Newt/Mitt advertisement night. Revolting.

otherone
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
FLOP SWEAT

Mattsa
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
It's already the "Mitt & Newt" show

It's the middle of the night here in the UK

I think I'm going to bed

Business as usual isn't it?

deputydon
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
30 second responses?

JVParkour
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
Trivia question:

In debates, The Olympics are to Mitt as 9/11 was to ____ ________ .

The Ghoul!

Refresh the Tree
01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
Has Ron said anything? I was in the can.

Hahahahahahahhaha, no.

dawnbt
01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
Trivia question:

In debates, The Olympics are to Mitt as 9/11 was to ____ ________ .

Rudy Guiliani!

Bruno
01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
Mitt 3, Newt 3, Santorum/Paul on stage?

Kords21
01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
I think Romney is worse at attacking people than Dr. Paul is

kahless
01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
Gingrich and Romney destroying one another. This is a good thing.

ghengis86
01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
Comcast in washington state, it's not on. Is there only a stream?

on at 9pm for you on PST

ghengis86
01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
Gingrich and Romney destroying one another. This is a good thing.

yes, for sure

axlr
01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
Kinda glad there is no applause allowed tonight.