CNN: 42% of SC Evangelical voters support Gingrich; 13% Paul

[Gaddafi Duck]

i don't get it. 43% of tea party voters support Gingrich in SC while only 14% support Ron Paul. Funny considering Ron Paul's 2007 record-setting money bomb was what started the tea party movement. What's better, 42% of born-again Evangelical voters support Gingrich--the guy who admitted to cheating on his wife who was dying of cancer, then subsequently cheated on his second wife--and only 13% support Ron Paul, the guy married to the same woman for the past 54 years.


The fiscal conservatives vote for the biggest spenders and the religious family-value voters go for infidelity. People baffle me.

[Paulite]

the gospel called TV

[ByeByeBernanke]

You just can't make this crap up. I don't let it affect me anymore. If these people are really dumb enough to vote for Nut Gingrich, I just don't even care anymore.

[rblgenius]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

[Okie RP fan]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

This.

[anewvoice]

What I'll be reporting out of today is these demographics.

[Jack Bauer]

i don't get it. 43% of tea party voters support Gingrich in SC while only 14% support Ron Paul. Funny considering Ron Paul's 2007 record-setting money bomb was what started the tea party movement. What's better, 42% of born-again Evangelical voters support Gingrich--the guy who admitted to cheating on his wife who was dying of cancer, then subsequently cheated on his second wife--and only 13% support Ron Paul, the guy married to the same woman for the past 54 years.


The fiscal conservatives vote for the biggest spenders and the religious family-value voters go for infidelity. People baffle me.

http://www.ielmira.com/pictureserver/var/albums/war-is-peace-freedom-is-slavery-ignorance-is-strength-1725905089.jpg?m=1295288288

[The Goat]

Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.

[airborne373]

... that's what Jesus would do?

[nobody's_hero]

I guess God'll forgive him for the wars he gets us into, as well.

[coffeewithchess]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

Unless it's President Clinton...

[anewvoice]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

He's a repeat offender, the God forgives bullshit is fine but Newt will NOT defeat Obama, period end of story.

[Gary4Liberty]

I thought Gingrich was finished as soon as the story broke about his vindictive wife selling out and tattling on him. I am stunned that not only did it not hurt him, but it helped propel him to 1st place. Cant believe the evangelicals voted for 3 time divorcee Newt. Wow. They are really lowering the bar or simply not as staunch as they pretend to be.

[rblgenius]

Unless it's President Clinton...

Its a hypocritical world. My generation can see it much more clearly thanks to the internet though

[Jack Bauer]

You just can't make this crap up. I don't let it affect me anymore. If these people are really dumb enough to vote for Nut Gingrich, I just don't even care anymore.

I reached that place long ago.

Now I just make fun of those idiots.

Its much better for my heart. :)

[ONUV]

foreign policy

[JuicyG]

I guess God'll forgive him for the wars he gets us into, as well.

I thought murder is an unforgiven mortal sin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin

[RonPaul101.com]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

We need an ad of every time Romney and Gingrich admit on video that they "made a mistake" and run them end to end, and then end the ad with "Ron Paul, the consistent candidate on honesty. Do be them, don't make a mistake that you will regret."

[Jack Bauer]

He's a repeat offender, the God forgives bullshit is fine but Newt will NOT defeat Obama, period end of story.

Let them watch Newt fumble and bumble in debates with Obama.

It will be hilarious to see the logical jumps and dances "conservatives" will do to rationalize Newt's debate failure.

For the love of God, that idiot cannot out debate Rick Santorum! Just go watch the last SC debate!

[Jack Bauer]

I thought Gingrich was finished as soon as the story broke about his vindictive wife selling out and tattling on him. I am stunned that not only did it not hurt him, but it helped propel him to 1st place. Cant believe the evangelicals voted for 3 time divorcee Newt. Wow. They are really lowering the bar or simply not as staunch as they pretend to be.

Not a surprise considering that 4 out of the top 5 states for the highest divorce rates are Southern States.

For Men:

1) Arkansas
2) Maine
3) Oklahoma
4) Alabama
5) Kentucky

For Women

1) Alaska
2) Oklahoma
3) Alabama
4) Kentucky
5) Arkansas

They are forgiving that way. ;)

[nobody's_hero]

I thought murder is an unforgiven mortal sin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin

Oh, that doesn't apply during undeclared 'wars on terror'.

[abstrusezincate]

There's an inverse correlation between religiosity and measured IQ. Draw your own conclusions.

As a personal aside, I spent four years of my life working in the GOP and I left to become a Democrat for one primary reason. I got sick of the religious right.

[lilymc]

The fiscal conservatives vote for the biggest spenders and the religious family-value voters go for infidelity. People baffle me.


It is very sad, and embarrassing for me as a Christian. I've read their excuses for supporting Gingrich. Some were saying that the media and Newt's opponents misreported the stories, and that he had already split from his wife when it happened, and that he had a "change of heart" yadda yadda yadda. They are also saying that Gingrich's "accomplishments" outweigh the negative things, and since they hate Romney and don't think Santorum is ready for prime-time, they seem to think that Gingrich is their best shot at beating Obama.

I also think that many of those people are just cultural Christians. I honestly can't see how any true Christian could vote for any of those wolves in sheep's clothing, and NOT see that Ron Paul is the real deal. I was just talking to someone on another site, and this may sound crazy but we were beginning to wonder if it's some sort of mass blindness (supernatural blindness) because things have been so bizarre and upside down lately, and people have definitely strayed from true doctrine, and refuse to hear the truth. I even tweeted about that yesterday. Click (https://twitter.com/#!/_lilymc/status/160552210722328578).

[Jeffster]

What you folks don't understand is that these same exit polls show that Evangelicals are NOT voting for who they think is "more Christian." Overwhelmingly, people are voting based on economic concerns. That has been true in all three of the contests so far.

[Jack Bauer]

It is very sad, and embarrassing for me as a Christian. I've read their excuses for supporting Gingrich. Some were saying that the media and Newt's opponents misreported the stories, and that he had already split from his wife when it happened, and that he had a "change of heart" yadda yadda yadda. They are also saying that Gingrich's "accomplishments" outweigh the negative things, and since they hate Romney and don't think Santorum is ready for prime-time, they seem to think that Gingrich is their best shot at beating Obama.

I also think that many of those people are just cultural Christians. I honestly can't see how any true Christian could vote for any of those wolves in sheep's clothing, and NOT see that Ron Paul is the real deal. I was just talking to someone on another site, and this may sound crazy but we were beginning to wonder if it's some sort of mass blindness (supernatural blindness) because things have been so bizarre and upside down lately, and people have definitely strayed from true doctrine, and refuse to hear the truth. I even tweeted about that yesterday. Click (https://twitter.com/#!/_lilymc/status/160552210722328578).

People are fundamentally not logical creatures.

Human beings are emotional creatures.

Logic and reasoning are rare and are therefore respected.

If they "like" someone, they will go to any lengths, perform any number of logical jumps and dances to rationalize that person's failings.

Just take a look at all those abused spouses, abused children who develop daddy/mommy issues, people yearning for deficit spending, etc.

[abstrusezincate]

The nature of religions is to be corrupted to power and its use herein. The Bible is rife with examples of how this happened throughout history, so why is it so surprising that the practitioners today would behave the same way.

It is unfortunate for those who sincerely hold faith, whom I respect, and the foundation of which is almost always a respect for anyone, a shared foundation of liberty.

[thoughtomator]

If a Massachusetts limosuine liberal gun grabber manages to beat Paul in the VA race, it'll be time to admit that the USSR won the Cold War.

[BrittanySligar]

-nvm-

[RiderOfTheStorm]

Evangelicals voting for Newt is like a Klan leader joining the NAACP.

[Hospitaller]

Just remember this : we got 3.62% in 2008

That looks like a 400% or more increase

[abruzz0]

This country's going to Hell. Literally.

This is why I don't go to church. This country is full of fake Christians. It makes me fucking sick. All they care about is killing Muslims, watching football, and defending old white guys who rape little boys in the shower.

[Hyperion]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

It's such a shame people are willing to trust a serial adulterer without even considering the incredible integrity Ron Paul contains. Christians are so easily duped into believing neocons have their best interests at heart but they never learn.

[Dianne]

lol always been fine for men to commit adultery. Guess they love that bleached blonde floozie, Newt sports on his left arm... The first "Tart" instead of First Lady.

South Carolina never disappoints, they always vote for the loser.. and Newt will get his ass kicked so badly by Obama; South Carolina deserves another 10% unemployment. In-fact, they should begin tomorrow; by firing their corrupt evangelicals, lol.

[vita3]

Most Evangelicals have been brainwashed that they need to support Israel, Even though Israel's current GOV is undefendable.

[ShaneEnochs]

I'm beginning to slowly become apathetic again. These people deserve what is about to come to them.

[Jack Bauer]

It's because evangelicals are SHEEP. Once a week, they sit down and listen to fairy tales and take it as truth. No different than the church of fox news.

THIS x ∞

[asurfaholic]

There's an inverse correlation between religiosity and measured IQ. Draw your own conclusions.

As a personal aside, I spent four years of my life working in the GOP and I left to become a Democrat for one primary reason. I got sick of the religious right.

What the hell is religiosity? And how is it measured I wonder....

[abstrusezincate]

Good question. Religiosity is measured by how often a person reports attending a religious service in sociology.

Simply put: Church more, independent thought less. Though it holds true across religions.

[Gaddafi Duck]

irritating

[justatrey]

It's scary what they must be teaching people in church these days.

Did ANY polls have us at 13%?

[abstrusezincate]

The basic problem is simple enough: People who attend church seem to believe the government should enforce morality.

I agree morality is important. I wholly disagree that it should be encourage through coercion.

[chapchap70]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

God forgives but as you are probably aware, there usually are consequences. Think of King David. Long ago, when our nation acted more Christian, a guy like Newt didn't have a chance at becoming president because although they could forgive him personally, they saw the dangers of him acquiring power over someone that stayed on the straight and narrow. This is insane!

[pinkmandy]

Analogy for the evans who support Newt because he seeked repentance...

Would they let a child molester who seeked repentance babysit their children?

[chapchap70]

The basic problem is simple enough: People who attend church seem to believe the government should enforce morality.

I agree morality is important. I wholly disagree that it should be encourage through coercion.


This!

From what I have seen by attending churches my whole life is that church people think there are justifications for overruling agreements (church constitutions) and the leadership is either too lazy to do the extra work those agreements require or think they are doing God's will if the cause is deemed to be good by them.

[ShaneEnochs]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

I'm glad God does, because I have no forgiveness for such trash.

[Southron]

It's all the Christians fault. If somehow we could get rid of them, this would be a libertarian paradise. :rolleyes:

[BrittanySligar]

It's all the Christians fault. If somehow we could get rid of them, this would be a libertarian paradise. :rolleyes:

Well, the younger generation does consist of a might higher percentage of atheists libertarians than the older generations.

[Jack Bauer]

^^^This. It's ok.. our generation consists of atheists and libertairans.

lol

[Paul4Prez]

I guess they forgave him for cheating on his wife and marrying his mistress. Twice.

[James Madison]

^^^This. It's ok.. our generation consists of atheists and libertairans.

I think he was being sarcastic.

[gte811i]

God forgives but as you are probably aware, there usually are consequences. Think of King David. Long ago, when our nation acted more Christian, a guy like Newt didn't have a chance at becoming president because although they could forgive him personally, they saw the dangers of him acquiring power over someone that stayed on the straight and narrow. This is insane!

+1
I wonder if this effect of no consequences for Newt is a result of our society having very little consequences for screwing up (morally speaking) . . .

[Voluntary Man]

i don't get it. 43% of tea party voters support Gingrich in SC while only 14% support Ron Paul. Funny considering Ron Paul's 2007 record-setting money bomb was what started the tea party movement. What's better, 42% of born-again Evangelical voters support Gingrich--the guy who admitted to cheating on his wife who was dying of cancer, then subsequently cheated on his second wife--and only 13% support Ron Paul, the guy married to the same woman for the past 54 years.


The fiscal conservatives vote for the biggest spenders and the religious family-value voters go for infidelity. People baffle me.

Jesus specifically states that, regardless of what Moses permitted, divorce is verboten. Yet, you will next to never hear any preacher say that from the pulpit. Even if the preacher himself has been married to the wife of his youth for 40 years, he doesn't want to risk alienating part of his congregation, especially when some of the church's biggest donors and those who can afford the latest model trophy wives are the same men. Consequently, even those who consider themselves fundamentalist Christians accept divorce as pro forma, regardless of what Jesus said.

Consider, also that SC, LA, and FL have the largest Catholic populations of any southern states, and you might have hit on why the catholicism of Newtant and Dicky flew under the radar in SC (as it might, also, in LA and FL) among the "religious right" (never mind that the Catholic church itself is very anti-divorce).

[SurfsUp]

So either Cnn is lieing or evangelicals are braindead.

[nobody's_hero]

Saw this a while ago on a political blog:

“Mark Sanford is kicking himself. If he only knew there was this much acceptance of open marriage in SC he’d still be Governor.”

[playpianoking]

reddit link about it http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/orduj/42_of_sc_evangelicals_voted_for_gingrich_the_guy/

[LawnWake]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

It's rather arrogant to assume to know who God does or doesn't forgive, isn't it? I mean, I'm not religious and I've never even been half as blasphemous as a lot of self-described christians are. It's pretty crazy.

[Southron]

I think he was being sarcastic.

Lol. Sarcasm was painful to my reputation. :eek:

[airborne373]

This article should say, "42% of Evangelical voters support National Socialism." It would not be the first time they did that.

[Voluntary Man]

Christians aren't real christians. Its sad. I see it in my parents too... "he made a mistake and god forgives him". Makes me sick

Maybe someone should've informed SC voters that's God's forgiveness is an act of mercy, like clemency for a condemned man -- not a political endorsement. It means he isn't going to burn in hell, not that God gave him the all clear to be president. Could there be a stupider bunch of people?

[Anti Federalist]

It's all the Christians fault. If somehow we could get rid of them, this would be a libertarian paradise. :rolleyes:

LoL

[USAFCapt]

It's because evangelicals are SHEEP. Once a week, they sit down and listen to fairy tales and take it as truth. No different than the church of fox news.

This. Most churchgoers love "The Big Man" anthropological setting.

[Voluntary Man]

This. Most churchgoers love "The Big Man" anthropological setting.

There is truth in this, which is why I oppose the professional clergy -- too much idol worship (of course most churchgoers would never acknowledge this...except perhaps Catholics).

You may mean "anthropomorphic," though.