South Carolina Election Returns - 19:00ET (1/21/12) - Official Thread

[Matt Collins]

The polls close in South Carolina on the 21st of January at 19:00 ET.

Official returns:
http://www.scvotes.org/

Google's returns:
http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results


This is the OFFICIAL Thread! :cool:

[pauliticalfan]

Officially.

[Tyler_Durden]

Saved

[Bruno]

Official thread opened the day of the event? :confused:

:cool: :D

[Muwahid]

Is it nineteen o'clock yet :toady:

[MozoVote]

They'll probably release the absentee and early voting quickly after the poll closing.

Final results will take all night though. I assume, like N.C. they allow whoever is in line at the polling site to vote. The doors are closed at 7:PM but that does not mean voting ceases.

[wgadget]

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.digital-topo-maps.com/county-map/south-carolina-county-map.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.digital-topo-maps.com/county-map/south-carolina.shtml&h=589&w=747&sz=30&tbnid=dO4D6m0XME0rXM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=114&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsouth%2Bcarolina%2Bcounties%26tbm%3Di sch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=south+carolina+counties&docid=a4eHptGuAWY96M&sa=X&ei=Oz8bT5WcNpTatweCqNWDCw&ved=0CG4Q9QEwCA&dur=149


Anyone know how to embed this?

[tajitj]

For reference.

Largest counties as far as total GOP votes from 2008

1. Greenville - 59k
2. Charleston - 34k
3. Lexington - 34k
4. Spartenburg - 30k
5. Richland - 29k
6. Horry - 25.5k
7. Anderson - 21k
8. York - 20k
9. Beaufort - 19k
10. Aiken - 18k
11. Berkeley - 15k

When results start coming in we can see some of Pauls strong counties and predict where final totals are.

Also here is link to full county by county 2008 primary results.
http://www.state.sc.us/cgi-bin/scsec/r108pf

[JTforRP]

For reference.

Largest counties are far as total GOP votes from 2008

1. Greenville 59k
2. Charleston 34k
3. Lexington 34k
4. Spartenburg 30k
5. Richland 29k
6. Horry 25.5k
7. Anderson 21k
8. York 20k

Thanks.

[MozoVote]

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.digital-topo-maps.com/county-map/south-carolina-county-map.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.digital-topo-maps.com/county-map/south-carolina.shtml&h=589&w=747&sz=30&tbnid=dO4D6m0XME0rXM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=114&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsouth%2Bcarolina%2Bcounties%26tbm%3Di sch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=south+carolina+counties&docid=a4eHptGuAWY96M&sa=X&ei=Oz8bT5WcNpTatweCqNWDCw&ved=0CG4Q9QEwCA&dur=149
Anyone know how to embed this?

Huh? You mean put IMG tags around it?

http://www.digital-topo-maps.com/county-map/south-carolina-county-map.gif

[ZanZibar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH8e_RLe7lo&feature=uploademail

[wgadget]

Huh? You mean put IMG tags around it?

http://www.digital-topo-maps.com/county-map/south-carolina-county-map.gif

I is stoopit. But thanks!

[pauliticalfan]

Chuck Todd just said 26% Independent turnout; that's higher than ARG's 24%.

[acptulsa]

This is the OFFICIAL Thread! :cool:

Is it my imagination, or do these words invariably act as a troll magnet?

[vechorik]

I thought we were boycotting and watching returns at the PAC site? 332 online there now

https://revolutionpac.com/South-Carolina-Primary-Broadcast/

[wgadget]

I'm so jealous...Wish *I* could go to Jillian's...Wah.

[VictorB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH8e_RLe7lo&feature=uploademail

Wow. That first guy who said he voted for Newt had no idea why he did. He is the definition of a sheeple.

[damiengwa]

C'mon Matt Collins, we know you've been down to the polls, what's it like?!? What's it like!!!

[vechorik]

I thought we were boycotting and watching returns at the PAC site? 332 online there now -- starts in 4 minutes

https://revolutionpac.com/South-Caro...ary-Broadcast/

[thehungarian]

Wish I had booze. It's going to be a long night.

[LibertasPraesidium]

C'mon Matt Collins, we know you've been down to the polls, what's it like?!? What's it like!!!

lol...

[Dr.3D]

I thought we were boycotting and watching returns at the PAC site? 332 online there now -- starts in 4 minutes

https://revolutionpac.com/South-Caro...ary-Broadcast/

Checked in other there and it appears they are swamped.

Edit: Tried with IE and it works. Guess Firefox doesn't like their stream.

[Paulatized]

Fox just reported preliminary exit poll info on Fox, not much real info tho, said Ron Paul did well with the young vote. (who'd have thought).

[DerailingDaTrain]

How is it going? Watching Fox News they are saying Ron expects to come in fourth....wtf? South Carolina shouldn't be allowed to vote if they are going to choose a man who cheated on two dying wives and Obama in another body.

[Epic]

Fox just reported preliminary exit poll info on Fox, not much real info tho, said Ron Paul did well with the young vote. (who'd have thought).

Not PPP, not InAdv...

[Paulatized]

Carl Cameron just reported Quote: "Paul aids tonight are already signaling that they expect ultimately to come in 4th tonight but it won't stop them he will campaign on aggressively."

[pauliticalfan]

Dana Bash relocated to Santorum headquarters LOL.

[thoughtomator]

Carl Cameron just reported Quote: "Paul aids tonight are already signaling that they expect ultimately to come in 4th tonight but it won't stop them he will campaign on aggressively."

Wow, these soulless monsters know no shame.

[thoughtomator]

Dana Bash relocated to Santorum headquarters LOL.

WOO HOOOOOO!!!!

Get us a decent reporter this time CNN-bags!

[Epic]

Hmmm likely just lowering expectations. I think RP is slightly favored over Santorum for 3rd place.

Rain helps, and RP overpolling expectations in the previous primary (NH) helps. ARG signals 3rd, PPP signals 4th.

[DerailingDaTrain]

I'm starting to feel like this is rigged or that people are just stupid. They interviewed Gingrich, Santorum, and Romney supporters and they all said they were authentic, electable, and one specifically stated that Gingrich trashing his ex was a plus for her. Ignorance is everywhere.

[pauliticalfan]

Carl Cameron just reported Quote: "Paul aids tonight are already signaling that they expect ultimately to come in 4th tonight but it won't stop them he will campaign on aggressively."

Really? Ugh... Oh well.

[RecoveringNeoCon]

I just pray that we beat out Santorum...

[RonPaulGangsta]

Carl Cameron just reported Quote: "Paul aids tonight are already signaling that they expect ultimately to come in 4th tonight but it won't stop them he will campaign on aggressively."

They have to legitimize his 4th place finish in advance. You know it will be rigged and he'll really finish 2nd or 3rd.

[RecoveringNeoCon]

South Carolina is the North Korea of the United Sates.

[Kords21]

A reporter named Joe Johns is now the CNN reporter covering Ron Paul, don't know that much about him. Funny how Bash is now with Santorum, at least she won't have to worry about big crowds.

[Varin]

RP had better organisation in NH and IW might have been the reason for doing better than polls there.

[wgadget]

Seems like this kind of talk from honest, hardworking journalists would be off-limits...Oh, wait.

AREN'T THE POLLS STILL OPEN?

[AngryCanadian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH8e_RLe7lo&feature=uploademail

WOW PEOPLE ARE That retarded:mad: Newt Cant Beat Obama!

[Fredom101]

RP did terrible in SC in 08. Anyone know his %? I'm just hopefully that he can top it this time around.

[WD-NY]

Carl Cameron said "Paul campaign expects to come in 4th"

[floridasun1983]

A 4th place finish would be awful. We need 3rd and a Romney loss.

[BuddyRey]

When is 19:00? That number isn't even on any of my clocks.

[trey4sports]

what the fuck is this 19:00 bullshit. No one here uses Army Time.

[V3n]

RevolutionPAC Broadcast - back up on Chrome.

CNN - I thought Joe Johns did well. He talked about how Ron Paul had a "realistic" view of SC and was planning ahead in Minnesota and Nevada.

[trey4sports]

Carl Cameron said "Paul campaign expects to come in 4th"

i'd guess they are lowering expectations, but you never know.

[VictorB]

STOP watching the other networks! RevPac has their stream going. No need to support them and torture yourselves.

[Dr.3D]

what the fuck is this 19:00 bullshit. No one here uses Army Time.

That's not Army time, it's common for those using telecommunications to refer to 24 hour time.

That's 07:00 PM for those who don't know.

[V3n]

THE PEE DEE!!!! What??

[Mister Grieves]

Carl Cameron said "Paul campaign expects to come in 4th"Well, if "Campaign" Carl said it, it must be so.

[pauliticalfan]

Donna Brazille just mention the weather and "the Ron Paul factor." Love her!

[ZanZibar]

When is 19:00? That number isn't even on any of my clocks.


Tehn get a new clock :p




http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Cd-ehZCFYaE/S_P2DYW1PTI/AAAAAAAAND4/OG0cB2FEr6Y/s320/24-hour-wall-clock.jpg

[ZanZibar]

RP did terrible in SC in 08. Anyone know his %? I'm just hopefully that he can top it this time around.Here is a link: http://www.state.sc.us/cgi-bin/scsec/scsec-repprisw-011908f.pl

[Paulatized]

STOP watching the other networks! RevPac has their stream going. No need to support them and torture yourselves.

Link to stream, please.

[Dr.3D]

Link to stream, please.
https://revolutionpac.com/South-Carolina-Primary-Broadcast/

[wgadget]

https://revolutionpac.com/South-Carolina-Primary-Broadcast/

[vechorik]

Link to stream, please.

I thought we were boycotting and watching returns at the PAC site? 800 online there now

https://revolutionpac.com/South-Caro...ary-Broadcast/


Boycott MSM --- Listen to RevPAC for the election returns

[VictorB]

Link to stream, please.

https://revolutionpac.com/South-Carolina-Primary-Broadcast/

[pauliticalfan]

Freedom means the freedom to watch whatever broadcast you want.

[TheCaliforniaLife]

Tehn get a new clock :p




http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Cd-ehZCFYaE/S_P2DYW1PTI/AAAAAAAAND4/OG0cB2FEr6Y/s320/24-hour-wall-clock.jpg

haha

[Refresh the Tree]

Alright, alcohol in hand and RevPac streaming. Let's do this Liberty!!!!!

[V3n]

I'm watching CNN so I can call out their garbage! I've got the RevPAC broadcast up too!!

[Paulatized]

thanks, Wgadget and Dr.3D. Now if I can just figure how how to double screen so I can keep up with this thread and watch the stream. ;)

[Carole]

Here is Politico map.

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/President/2012/Primary/SC

[vechorik]

haha

Or learn to subtract 12 from "military time" and you'll never use AM and PM again

[TheCaliforniaLife]

30 more minutes till polls close!

[Varin]

https://revolutionpac.com/South-Carolina-Primary-Broadcast/

revpac

[vechorik]

Dang -- RevPAC thing not until 6 CENTRAL time.

[MozoVote]

One big difference this time is that there are elected representatives in S.C. endorsing Paul. His is not "fringe" to them like he was in 2008.

You newbies don't remember the Rick Beltram stuff. Google for it.

[bbwarfield]

Is somone recording revpac? I have to leave for an election party and I wanna see how they do

[NoPants]

Dang -- RevPAC thing not until 6 CENTRAL time.

The site says 5-11 CST.

[EndTheECB]

When is 19:00? That number isn't even on any of my clocks.

Are you kidding me? Here in Sweden we're having problems understanding "AM" and "PM". 19:00 is like ordinary to us. But i guess we Europeans are a little bit different - when it comes to metrics (Meter), temperature (Celsius - swedish invention btw) and time.

[Kandilynn]

I'm pretty sure that we will beat Santorum, I'm kinda hoping that liberal protest voters that are fans of Colbert will make Cain beat out Santorum also.

[One Last Battle!]

Carl Cameron said "Paul campaign expects to come in 4th"

That's odd. Going by the exit polls, there are way more independents than expected and more men, not to mention that the weather should favour us.

What reason is there to think Santorum will beat us?

[travelerru]

That's odd. Going by the exit polls, there are way more independents than expected and more men, not to mention that the weather should favour us.

What reason is there to think Santorum will beat us?

probably just keeping expectations low.

[V3n]

CNN is talking about the weather a lot - they could be angling to setup a big night for RP that they can 'discredit' with the weather.

[Dr.3D]

Sounds like they have a band tuning up on the RevPac stream.

[svobody]

That's odd. Going by the exit polls, there are way more independents than expected and more men, not to mention that the weather should favour us.

What reason is there to think Santorum will beat us?
Of course the campaign is saying they expect 4th. Get 4th, meet expectations. Get 3rd, spin as victory. Win-win.

[vechorik]

Is somone recording revpac? I have to leave for an election party and I wanna see how they do

So far they are looking very professional -- have a director, everyone in suit/ties -- seems pretty professional

[Lord Xar]

Anyone know how accurate the internal polling of the RP campaign is? They are thinking 4th. Curious what their history is in determining their previous "internal polling" vs. actual outcome.

[Tina]

Donna Brazille just mention the weather and "the Ron Paul factor." Love her!

She's has a secret crush on Paul. I've even heard her say she likes a lot of what he says.

[Refresh the Tree]

CNN is talking about the weather a lot - they could be angling to setup a big night for RP that they can 'discredit' with the weather.

They are pumping Gingrich. He must be up big.

[Dr.3D]

Anyone know how accurate the internal polling of the RP campaign is? They are thinking 4th. Curious what their history is in determining their previous "internal polling" vs. actual outcome.

I never heard them say they were predicting 4th. I did hear Carl Cameron saying that. I never believe what I hear on the MSM.

[Lord Xar]

I never heard them say they were predicting 4th. I did hear Carl Cameron saying that. I never believe what I hear on the MSM.

Saw a tweet he made that a RP aide mentioned it to him - that they are expecting 4th.

[Dr.3D]

Saw a tweet he made that a RP aide mentioned it to him - that they are expecting 4th.

I think that aide should keep his mouth shut. Talking to the MSM is much like talking to the cops.

[vechorik]

:toady: <------ Toady is the primary!

[Refresh the Tree]

I am digging this RevPac stream. Really cool. Feel like I am part of the prep!

[Bruno]

I think that aide should keep his mouth shut. Talking to the MSM is much like talking to the cops.

May have done it purposely. "We were expecting 4th and pleased with our surprise 3rd!" (2nd!)

[lucent]

I think that aide should keep his mouth shut. Talking to the MSM is much like talking to the cops.

Odds are no aide talked to anyone.

[RonPaulRules]

:toady:

[raginggran]

Saw a tweet he made that a RP aide mentioned it to him - that they are expecting 4th.

He is lieing..................:p

[Dr.3D]

I am digging this RevPac stream. Really cool. Feel like I am part of the prep!

Mine keeps freezing and I have to start it over.

[Kords21]

If the campaign doesn't want volunteers talking to the media, then the same would go for aides. I think fox is pulling something out of their ass, like usual.

[vechorik]

I am digging this RevPac stream. Really cool. Feel like I am part of the prep!

I have the feeling this is the start of something good


I think the chat is limited to 250 -- that right?
More can watch, few can chat -- it was SUPPOSED to be for questions.

[Dr.3D]

Odds are no aide talked to anyone.

That would be my thought too.

[kathy88]

I can't get on. This so annoying.

[mikeforliberty]

RevPAC needs a 24 hour live feed.

[TexMac]

Chat already blew up:
Too many simultaneous requests!
Please retry in a minute.

(We're adding capacity as quickly as possible)

[Paulatized]

RevPAC stream says taking too long to respond...:(

nevermind, got it going now.

[moonshine5757]

when do results come in?

[TER]

CNN reporting 3% turnout for youngest voters

[Varin]

Ouch really low youth vote.

[Dr.3D]

when do results come in?
Polls close in one minute.

[vechorik]

Chat already blew up:

I got out of chat so others could do so -- they're chatting galore -- but chat is supposed to be "to ask questions"

[Rede]

Exit poll on cnn shows 6% under 30...

[Varin]

CNN reporting 3% turnout for youngest voters

that was only 18-24 another 3% for 25-29 but still low

[Karsten]

CNN reporting 3% turnout for youngest voters
So maybe the rain wasn't so good with us after all.

[KingNothing]

CNN reporting 3% turnout for youngest voters

Oh dear jesus. Really? Yuuuck!

[akalucas]

CNN reporting 3% turnout for youngest votersDamn, I saw that. Looks like the young people are much less likely to vote if the weather is bad.

[thehighwaymanq]

It's a marathon, not a race.

No head down tonight!

We are fine.

[Refresh the Tree]

Oh no. Ron in 4th.

[pauliticalfan]

FUCKKKKK

[bluesc]

Ouch. 4th in CNN exit poll.

[silk30]

RevPAC stream started! :)

[MozoVote]

We'll get absentee and early voting results shortly after the polls close.

I assume voting continues, within the buildings that have lines of voters. We'll be picking up county-by county results until 11PM I suspect.

[Bruno]

Cnn just posted Ron Paul 4th according to exit polls.

[Kords21]

Not looking good for third

[tsetsefly]

CNN showing Paul behind Santorum 17 to 15 in exit poll... How accurate are these polls?

[Vet_from_cali]

How are news station predicting winners when there are 0% results thus far.


wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff, hate this!!!

[akalucas]

38 Gingrich 29 Romney 17 santorum 15 Paul. Exit poll from cnn

[tbone717]

Exit poll on cnn shows 6% under 30...

No surprise it was 8% in 2008. We need to get over this idea that we are going to get a bunch of people that don't vote to vote. While we are strong with the 18-29 crowd that does vote, we seem to have this unrealistic expectation that we are going to get a massive wave of college age kids coming out to vote for the first time. They don't, so focus on the people that do.

[dbill27]

Cnn just posted Ron Paul 4th according to exit polls.

I saw, I'm ready to leave sc and florida

[sparebulb]

ABC just called it for Newtl'roy at 8:00 EST. Wow

[wgadget]

You guys really shouldn't be watching CNN. Bad for your health.

[thehighwaymanq]

Fox reporting Gingrich won already.

[wgadget]

ABC just called it for Newtl'roy at 8:00 EST. Wow

It's only 7:03pm.

[Deinonychus]

If anyone wants to watch CNN coverage, I am streaming as before with the debate: http://www.twitch.tv/deinonychus

[alucard13mmfmj]

oh cmon young people! why did you let old people beat you! i think for the better part of the day, we've been talking about how Ron Paul supporters will go vote no matter what >.<;; only 3% for young people? i guess thats all for Ron lol.

[Dr.3D]

It's only 7:03pm.

Amazing how fast they can count those ballots.

[Vet_from_cali]

brb 2 minutes after it closes, lets call a winner lol.

[V3n]

CNN's exit polls have been wrong twice already!

[dskalkowski]

oh cmon young people! why did you let old people beat you! i think for the better part of the day, we've been talking about how Ron Paul supporters will go vote no matter what >.<;; only 3% for young people? i guess thats all for Ron lol.

Young people are not a big electorate in southern states.

[pauliticalfan]

Independents screwed us. Voted for Gingrich.

South Carolina (except RP voters) is not a very bright state.

[tajitj]

Exit polls not correct. This will go into the night to see who gets 3rd. You can get within 2% by asking 2,000 of 450k voters.

[QWDC]

Lolm Foxnews.com has the projected winners check mark next to Ron.

[Peace&Freedom]

No surprise it was 8% in 2008. We need to get over this idea that we are going to get a bunch of people that don't vote to vote. While we are strong with the 18-29 crowd that does vote, we seem to have this unrealistic expectation that we are going to get a massive wave of college age kids coming out to vote for the first time. They don't, so focus on the people that do.

We're now brainstorming hard about recruiting young voters through early voting, instead of getting them out to the polls on primary day:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?353678-How-to-Boost-the-18-29-Youth-Vote-Guaranteed

[vechorik]

Only 930 on Ron Paul's RevPAC stream

[sparebulb]

It's only 7:03pm.

My bad. 7:00 EST

There is probably no reason to even go to the trouble of counting the votes.

[vechorik]

RevPAC said AP already declared Gingrich winner - 0 voted counted

[kahless]

Counting the votes gets in the way of their media narrative of who they pick to win and place.

[bluesc]

The campaign made its biggest mistake so far by going after SC.

[Monotaur]

Stream (besides RevPAC)?

[jcarcinogen]

Santo beat paul?

[Kords21]

Going by the exit poll data in various sections, south carolina is overwhelmingly breaking for Newt. Ultimate face palm. If the republicans want to abandon their values, then so be it.

[Crotale]

Only 5% of voters think Ron Paul is most likely to defeat Obama. Liberal Newt - 48%.

Yuck.

[wstrucke]

Going by the exit poll data in various sections, south carolina is overwhelmingly breaking for Newt. Ultimate face palm. If the republicans want to abandon their values, then so be it.

We learned in 2007 that people are uninformed until they are informed and the MSM promotes mis-information. This campaign has a very steep hill to climb.

[thehighwaymanq]

Only 5% of South Carolina-ers said Ron has the best chance to beat Obama. From CNN Exit Polls

[dfalken]

Yes a winner can be called based on exit polls if the difference is significantly beyond the margin of error. It's called statistics.

[Bruno]

The campaign made its biggest mistake so far by going after SC.

If by going after you mean campaigning lightly, then yes. Not a lot of resources were placed there, from my understanding.

[dskalkowski]

Yes a winner can be called based on exit polls if the difference is significantly beyond the margin of error. It's called statistics.

This.

[Kords21]

39% of married voters for Newt? WTF?

[AngryCanadian]

Only 5% of voters think Ron Paul is most likely to defeat Obama. Liberal Newt - 48%.

Yuck.

Wow really South Carolina you think Liberal Newt will beat Obama? thats it SC i hope Karma hits the most idiotic state in all of history.

[Barrex]

LOL on fox web page someone already crowned Ron Paul a winner (someone hacked FOX?)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012/south-carolina-primary-jan-21/

[RiderOfTheStorm]

SC is the 37th state in avg IQ, New Hampshire is 5th. Food for thought.

[MozoVote]

I'm not putting ANY emotional stake in exit polls. I want to see some actual returns, and about 40% completed, before developing any expectations of how this plays out.

[alucard13mmfmj]

i am angry... >=O. i hope other states are smarter than South Carolina, although it could be wiseful thinking T_T.

[KramerDSP]

I still think they erred greatly in thinking the electorate actually cares about the issues. The electorate clearly only cares about beating Obama. There should have been commercials highlighting Ron Paul's electability.

[bluesc]

If by going after you mean campaigning lightly, then yes. Not a lot of resources were placed there, from my understanding.

$600,000 on ads is a lot. They spent a lot in the last week on lodging for volunteers, robocalls, etc.

[dagnybell]

With so many people focused on electability, I wish the campaign would make ads that publicize the fact the RP has done very well in polls against Obama, much better than Newt!

[justinjj]

South Carolina is the New Jersey of the South. What a cesspool of idiots.

[green73]

There must be a lot of fluoride in the water in SC.

[Tyler_Durden]

With so many people focused on electability, I wish the campaign would make ads that publicize the fact the RP has done very well in polls against Obama, much better than Newt!

Exactly!

Start focusing on Obama fails too, just like the other candidates.

[Kords21]

So, what's Newt's long term election plan? I really don't see where he goes from here. It looks like he staked everything on SC and maybe Florida, but after that, I just don't see him really taking off once people really get a good look at him and the debates taper off.

[vechorik]

Cool -- RevPAC has reporter at Jillian's Billiards, Columbia, SC -- reporting on upcoming party (remote reporter)

[Krtek]

Only 5% of voters think Ron Paul is most likely to defeat Obama. Liberal Newt - 48%.

Yuck.

Yep, so far the campaign and Revpac are allowing the media to set this narrative and the older population is buying it hook line and sinker. Gingrich crushing in electability even though he gets destroyed in every head to head poll against Obama.

[DanConway]

Yes a winner can be called based on exit polls if the difference is significantly beyond the margin of error. It's called statistics.

Cargo cult statistics, maybe.

Statistical analysis is only as good as its data. If the data's biased, as exit polls have often been, who knows what the margin of error is?

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Newt beat "inevitable" Romney.

[Bruno]

$600,000 on ads is a lot. They spent a lot in the last week on lodging for volunteers, robocalls, etc.

That is a lot, but I don't think anyone could have predicted the events of the past few days. Gingrich gets an unexplicable bump from evanglicals for cheating on his wife and wanting an open marriage and "wins" the debate in the first 3 minutes, gets key endorsements, Huntsmann and Perry drop out, and it is announced that Santorum won Iowa. Who knew?

[V3n]

$600,000 on ads is a lot. They spent a lot in the last week on lodging for volunteers, robocalls, etc.

He took off 4 days after New Hampshire and flew back to DC to vote in Congress. The campaign was more focused on Nevada and Minnesota.

[MozoVote]

I disagree that Newt has nowhere to go. Like Scott Brown, he may find money pouring into his campaign from around the country if people sense that he's viable. Sounds like he has a big win about to be publicized from this. It's his launching pad to compete in Florida.

[lakerssuck92]

We needs more ads about electability

[Nate1604]

Frankly folks I am praying for Gingrich to win big tonight. This may help the Media & average GOP voters cognitively accept the "inevitable" reality that this is just the beginning of bitter drawn-out "precinct-by-precinct" fights for DELEGATES in every state for months to come, which fights will not "come to a head" until the various STATE CONVENTIONS! Maybe this time the Nevada GOP will scrape up enough money to keep the lights on!!!?)

[toast]

South Carolina is the New Jersey of the South. What a cesspool of idiots.

I'm in NJ. I agree with your assessment.

[jcarcinogen]

With so many people focused on electability, I wish the campaign would make ads that publicize the fact the RP has done very well in polls against Obama, much better than Newt! I never remember 'electability' being hyped so much before this election.

[pinkmandy]

There must be a lot of fluoride in the water in SC.

Fluoride was used to keep prisoners in line and calmer. I think it's probably something else that makes them warmongers.

[wstrucke]

I disagree that Newt has nowhere to go. Like Scott Brown, he may find money pouring into his campaign from around the country if people sense that he's viable. Sounds like he has a big win about to be publicized from this. It's his launching pad to compete in Florida.

terrible

[alucard13mmfmj]

i still think a coupon for a discount at Chipotle for young voters would be nice :p...

[bobburn]

First numbers in, Ron in 3rd, Romney/Gingrich tied for first at 36%. Ron is only 2% above Frothy (11 to 9%)

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/sc?hpt=hp_pc1

[kahless]

Wow really South Carolina you think Liberal Newt will beat Obama? thats it SC i hope Karma hits the most idiotic state in all of history.

I was hoping I was wrong but considering this is the same state that keeps electing Lindsey Graham as Senator and after watching that national disgrace of a Foxnews debate this week, I am not surprised.

[airborne373]

I hope tonight puts a couple things to rest.

First: South Carolina's boast about "picking presidents" is finished.

Secondly: The idea that "morality" or "family values" are really that important to the South Carolina electorate.

[tsetsefly]

on CNN those shitheads saying gingrich isnot establishment, comparing him to GOldwater, are you fucking kidding me!

[RonPaul101.com]

The rainy weather maybe what get's us third tonight. I hope we dodged a bullet there.

[unknown]

Sure Newt is "electable". :rolleyes:

America hates Newt Gingrich (http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/america-hates-newt-gingrich/326161)

[Kords21]

Newt winning SC just put to bed the GOP's claim that they're for family values, free-market economics and just expose them for the hypocrites they're becoming. Conservate? I think not.

[bobburn]

Gingrich...like Goldwater? What the hell ever.

[One Last Battle!]

Paul is getting 6% with about 50 votes in :P

[sparebulb]

I disagree that Newt has nowhere to go. Like Scott Brown, he may find money pouring into his campaign from around the country if people sense that he's viable. Sounds like he has a big win about to be publicized from this. It's his launching pad to compete in Florida.

You uttered a name that sent a cold chill up my spine, along with a sick feeling of dread.

Romney/Brown 2012

Gingrich/Brown 2012

A Fox News wet dream climaxing with the end of our republic.

[vechorik]

RevPAC "Ron Paul polling second in some exit polls"

[swissaustrian]

Perry getting 5%, are the voters cavemen and cavewomen in SC?

[bobburn]

Try CNN, over a thousand votes already in. Ron at 10%. Santorum at 14 now.

[tsetsefly]

where was RP the strongest?

[Kords21]

I know there's an election plan here and SC/Florida really don't play a part in it, but it's disheartening to see these results. The media is going to move to marginailize Paul even more now.

[low preference guy]

Ron Paul shouldn't pick DeMint as his VP because of his non-endorsement.

[aaroche26]

AA

[UNC08]

I've lived a few miles from the border my whole life. I've also been around the country and they rival Mississippians in their anti-intellectualism.
South Carolina is the New Jersey of the South. What a cesspool of idiots.

[Nate1604]

I was hoping I was wrong but considering this is the same state that keeps electing Lindsey Graham as Senator and after watching that national disgrace of a Foxnews debate this week, I am not surprised.

This point cannot be overemphasized enough! I started to type a few comments expressing my feelings about Mr. Graham and his "legacy", but I should be careful with my blood pressure level...

[vechorik]

I've lived a few miles from the border my whole life. I've also been around the country and they rival Mississippians in their anti-intellectualism.

Gee, thanks, Mr. Brains.

[MozoVote]

Perry getting 5%, are the voters cavemen and cavewomen in SC?

These are the early returns and absentees. They voted before Perry dropped. Same with Huntsman.

[wgadget]

How are they calling it for Gingrich? Looks like Romney is winning..?

[bobburn]

Ron Paul behind Frothy but gaining. We NEED third here.

[VictorB]

Man...Romney and Newt are dominating right now.

[Christopholes11]

I've lived a few miles from the border my whole life. I've also been around the country and they rival Mississippians in their anti-intellectualism.

Please don't remind me of some of the people I live around :( I assure you not all of us are zombies though.

[joshnorris14]

Gee, thanks, Mr. Brains.

Mississippi is the dumbest state in the country. I know people in Mississippi that make fun of how stupid their state is.

[RonPaul101.com]

To show you how bright most voters are (especially SC), Rick Perry has 4.5% of the vote so far (110 votes)

[swissaustrian]

These are the early returns and absentees. They voted before Perry dropped. Same with Huntsman.
Ok that makes sense, thanks.

[rightcoast]

What's there to not understand? I'm trying it on Boxee on the TV, firefox, and IE on my computer, it's down.

[akalucas]

Funny how the bad weather actually had younger people voting less
Percentage wise compared to the old folks. Looks like older people place more importance in voting than young Ron Paul supporters when it comes down to it. Older people just have better priorities

[jax]

Honestly id rather romney win. Gingrich is the worst human being on the planet

[bluesc]

Ron got 11% of those who decided in the last few days. The debates never help him.

[Slist]

Frankly folks I am praying for Gingrich to win big tonight. This may help the Media & average GOP voters cognitively accept the "inevitable" reality that this is just the beginning of bitter drawn-out "precinct-by-precinct" fights for DELEGATES in every state for months to come, which fights will not "come to a head" until the various STATE CONVENTIONS! Maybe this time the Nevada GOP will scrape up enough money to keep the lights on!!!?)

You know what's going to happen if Gingrich wins, right? The media is going to talk about a two man race! I know it's unfair! Romney will challenge Gingrich to a 1 on 1 debate... Everyone will pump up a "Gingrich or Romney" race. They will try to polarise republicans between those two.

That's not fair you say? I agree, but media is not fair... They want Ron to get as few delegates as possible.. This is how they can do that!

[thehungarian]

I really can't stand "conservatives". No matter how much bitching and harping on principles they do, they are Republicans at the end of the day. Conservatives hate "The Media" - outside of their beloved Fox News, who would never betray them - so much, that they will support the first candidate who attacks The Media in debates and challenges their premises. And when a candidate does this they clap like seals.

They don't care about beating Obama, they care about Proving The Media Wrong™ no matter how shitty the candidate is. They showed this with Sarah Palin and now it's Newt.

[RonPaul101.com]

Ok that makes sense, thanks.

Are you sure? They are given info as two precincts on the map, not a smattering of Absents throughout the state...

[JoshS]

This IS South Carolina, I don't how what you guys were expecting.

[dfb]

How are they calling it for Gingrich? Looks like Romney is winning..?

Exit Polling

[zippy81]

Mississippi is the dumbest state in the country. I know people in Mississippi that make fun of how stupid their state is.

HEY, we do the same right here in SC.....got a sick feeling i'm gonna be doing more of it after tonight....

[Bruno]

Ron Paul behind Frothy but gaining. We NEED third here.

No we don't. We have a long term strategy that does not hinge upon the first three states. 3rd would be great, 4th we are still in, it doesn't matter.

[Crotale]

RevPAC "Ron Paul polling second in some exit polls"

No chance. I hate to be negative but that is way to wishful thinking. Said more in hope than expectation.

Right now, I'd take 3rd with 20% in a heartbeat. Even that seems highly against the odds now. Let's win Nevada.

[tsetsefly]

I know there's an election plan here and SC/Florida really don't play a part in it, but it's disheartening to see these results. The media is going to move to marginailize Paul even more now.

Agree hopefully we can get good results in the caucus states...

[RonPaul101.com]

Ron got 11% of those who decided in the last few days. The debates never help him.

It takes time to learn and understand the truth. Paul is not the "drive-in window" of the candidate menu (looks like Newt is ;) )

[zippy81]

Ron got 11% of those who decided in the last few days. The debates never help him.

Doesn't help that in the post debate analysis you get ZERO coverage

[NoPants]

What's there to not understand? I'm trying it on Boxee on the TV, firefox, and IE on my computer, it's down.

Yeah, it's a no-go for me too. I've been refreshing the RevPac site non-stop since 5:30, hasn't worked yet.

[V3n]

Doesn't help that in the post debate analysis you get ZERO coverage

Ditto.

[anaconda]

Ron's recent 19% polling is not being reflected in these very early results..

[pinkmandy]

Honestly id rather romney win. Gingrich is the worst human being on the planet

I don't know. John McCain is pretty nasty, too although Newt is a bit worse. Maybe they're trying to outdo themselves this election? We didn't turn out to vote for McCain so maybe their rationale is that they need someone even more warmongering, corrupt and vulgar?

[low preference guy]

No we don't. We have a long term strategy that does not hinge upon the first three states. 3rd would be great, 4th we are still in, it doesn't matter.

It'll be highly convenient for Santorum to drop out and have a 3-way race. Beating him in SC makes it more likely.

[ProBlue33]

I really hate stupid people, voting for candidates in a primary that have dropped out is so stupid.
If Santorum beats Ron Paul I have to question the intelligence of South Carolinian's.
Seriously messed up thought patterns.

[pauliticalfan]

Big story will be Romney losing big time. Us not doing so hot will be a minor story. Let's put South Carolina behind us, keep your heads high.

[Lafayette]

I know this is only the 3rd state in the race but damn this is depressing. Americans do not deserve Ron Paul.

Im sure we can expect a similar out come in Florida ... lets get to the western states!

[Okie RP fan]

I really can't stand "conservatives". No matter how much bitching and harping on principles they do, they are Republicans at the end of the day. Conservatives hate "The Media" - outside of their beloved Fox News, who would never betray them - so much, that they will support the first candidate who attacks The Media in debates and challenges their premises. And when a candidate does this they clap like seals.

They don't care about beating Obama, they care about Proving The Media Wrong™ no matter how shitty the candidate is. They showed this with Sarah Palin and now it's Newt.

Yep. You see, these are the dumb conservatives, mostly neocons under the guise of being "conservative."

All of the true conservatives I know have shown nothing but support and/or have endorsed Paul (some reluctantly, but they acknowledged the others were crooks).

It's the sad fact that Fox News has trained these minds into voting Republican first, instead of principle first.

[alucard13mmfmj]

even though SC/FLorida is not really the RP campaign's goal.. still looks bad when the media spins it. *wishes for 3rd and in the 20% range*

[Dr.3D]

It takes time to learn and understand the truth. Paul is not the "drive-in window" of the candidate menu (looks like Newt is ;) )

Well, the media doesn't put him on the menu.

[unknown]

Ron's recent 19% polling is not being reflected in these very early results..

True.

[anewvoice]

You know what's going to happen if Gingrich wins, right? The media is going to talk about a two man race! I know it's unfair! Romney will challenge Gingrich to a 1 on 1 debate... Everyone will pump up a "Gingrich or Romney" race. They will try to polarise republicans between those two.

That's not fair you say? I agree, but media is not fair... They want Ron to get as few delegates as possible.. This is how they can do that!

And? The media is never going to recognize Ron Paul or the movement, they are not coming to our aid, they will never be fair and they will always push some other narrative. It is our job to screw up their narrative.

[V3n]

Well, the media doesn't put him on the menu.

You always have to order 'off the menu' to get the best stuff! :)

[dfb]

I think King created a monster by not standing up to Newt. He could have smacked him down but backed off and made Newt look strong. Newt is a fraud. He said his two daughters would stand up for him, forgetting to mention that the two daughters came from his first marriage and have always hated the woman. Not to mention there are many many quotes where he lambasted Clinton over the whole Monica affair.

[SaulPaulinsky]

You know what's going to happen if Gingrich wins, right? The media is going to talk about a two man race! I know it's unfair! Romney will challenge Gingrich to a 1 on 1 debate... Everyone will pump up a "Gingrich or Romney" race. They will try to polarise republicans between those two.

That's not fair you say? I agree, but media is not fair... They want Ron to get as few delegates as possible.. This is how they can do that!

That's a risk I'm willing to take with the alternative being Romney being crowned after 4 primaries.

[V3n]

I think King created a monster by not standing up to Newt. He could have smacked him down but backed off and made Newt look strong. Newt is a fraud. He said his two daughters would stand up for him, forgetting to mention that the two daughters came from his first marriage and have always hated the woman. Not to mention there are many many quotes where he lambasted Clinton over the whole Monica affair.

King works for CNN - otherwise known as the "Clinton News Network". Of course they want Gingrich to win, America hates him, they know he'd fare worst against Obama.

[Okie RP fan]

Newt Gingrich reported as saying "donate to our money bomb" per Bret Baier on FNC

[kahless]

Foxnews just said Ron Paul's people expect to come in 4th. Santorum will beat Paul. :(

[thehighwaymanq]

Fox News predicting Ron is 4th

[ElizabethR]

I think King created a monster by not standing up to Newt. He could have smacked him down but backed off and made Newt look strong. Newt is a fraud. He said his two daughters would stand up for him, forgetting to mention that the two daughters came from his first marriage and have always hated the woman. Not to mention there are many many quotes where he lambasted Clinton over the whole Monica affair.

The daughters hated their own mother or the other women?

[Crotale]

Well this is just depressing. I'm going to head off to bed if the situation hasn't improved with 10% reporting.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Ron's recent 19% polling is not being reflected in these very early results..
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/RON%20PAUL%202012/TP_SOUTH_CAROLINA.jpg

[Okie RP fan]

Fox News predicting Ron is 4th

Yep. They said that Santorum is projected to go third.

[Liberty Shark]

Ron got 11% of those who decided in the last few days. The debates never help him.
I agree, and have been saying this for a while.

[Vet_from_cali]

guys don't get too discouraged, this was what we were expecting in SC. the more important matter is the states here after.

[tajitj]

Think about it people, these early returns are apparently going to have an 8% swing at the top, giving Newt the win, because right now Mittens is winning.

It is not out of the realm for the Santorum, Paul vote to get real close.

[V3n]

That's a risk I'm willing to take with the alternative being Romney being crowned after 4 primaries.

If they crowned Romney after 4 primaries, Newt and Santorum would exit, then EVERYONE would be pissed at Paul for not dropping out, saying things about "Romney really needs to focus on Obama now, instead he's dealing with this un-electable Paul" and everyone would hate us. Better Romney doesn't win and this gets dragged out.

[ElizabethR]

STOP WATCHING THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA!

It will only depress you and spike up their stupid ratings.

Here's something to cheer you up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeP2SU6ah6Q&feature=g-all-f&context=G255cfbeFAAAAAAAAAAA

[samsung1]

Looks like PPP nailed the nubers last night

[pauliticalfan]

Why the hell is Wolf so dramatic? Basically just screamed that Newt Gingrich won.