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Trance Dance Master
11-10-2007, 11:25 PM
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Temp/Temp-MajorVictoryOnHoloDenialInSpain-Siggy.htm

Holocaust-Persecution Germany in panic

Spain withdraws from Germany’s Holocaust-Persecution-Alliance

Madrid abolishes Thought-Crime-Law

Is this the beginning of the end of Israel's Holocaust-Terror?

El Mundo, Madrid, 08.11.2007, p. 3 (translated from Spanish)

Freedom of Expression cannot be denied even to the Nazis

The first sentence given in Spain for the crime of genocide apology will also be the last. Moreover, it will be revoked. The Constitutional Tribunal decided yesterday to decriminalise a presumption that was included in the reform of the Penal Code of 1996. Article 607.2 anticipates punishments of up to two years in jail for whoever, "by any means" diffuses "ideas or doctrines that deny or justify" the Holocaust.

With that legislation, a Barcelona court [Juzgado Penal Nº 3, Judge Santiago Vidal] sentenced a librarian [Pedro Varela] in this city in 1998 who distributed and commercialised pro Nazi books and videos. Against the prosecution’s criteria, the Catalonian Court of Apeal [Audiencia Provincial, three judges] posed the question of unconstitutionality, when considering that the referenced article limits a fundamental right, the right to freedom of expression, since it punishes the diffusion of ideas "without demanding any other element, such as affronts, or inciting to attack groups."

We are, undoubtedly, before a correct decision of the Constitutional Court that reinforces our system of guarantees. Because, no matter how odious the ideas that justify genocide may appear to us, a free society cannot deny their right of freedom of expression, unless it includes inciting to violence. The opposite would be to reinstate the crime of opinion.

We expressed ourselves in that respect on the occasion of the closing of Egin, the pro Eta newspaper. Without talking of the dangers of establishing limits to the freedom of expression: others will always be able to use the precedent. It is yet very much alive, for example, the case of the Mohammed vignettes, that the Islamic collectives have not hesitated in trying to censor. Where are the limits established? It will always be preferable to voice the most polemic opinions rather than exercise censorship. Even more so when society has lots of means within its reach to refute them by confronting them with reality.

Pedro Varela in handcuffs then for selling books containing the truth about Auschwitz and the Jewish holocaust-tales.

On November 7, 2007 Spain's Constitutional Court ruled on the case of Pedro Varela, the well known Spanish human rights activist and publisher. Pedro Varela was sentenced initially (Nov. 16, 1998) to five years in prison by a Barcelona court for selling books that were considered to contain articles of racehat and holocaust-denial. In fact, they were books that disputed certain aspect of the modern holocaust dogma. On April 30, 1999, the highest appeal court of Catalonia overturned the verdict and denounced the original verdict, as well as the law the verdict was based on, (article 607.2 Spanish penal code) as illegal. Three judges came to the unanimous conclusion that such a law is violating human rights by depriving every individual from his or her basic human rights (UN-Charter, Article 19).

The Spanish Constitutional Court now confirmed the ruling of the Catalonial Appeal-Court and abolished Spain's "holocaust-denial-law" because it deprives people from their right to freely express their opinions.. This ruling by the highest judges of Spain is a blow to Holocaust-Germany that had used all her resources and powers to form a thought-crime-alliance in Europe. Holocaust-Germany's intention was to throw everyone in prison who objects to holocaust-lies. It seems that Germany's findish alliance is now starting to crumble. Will this be the beginning of the end of Germany's and Israel's world-terror-politics? Will freedom come again for mankind?

Chester Copperpot
11-10-2007, 11:26 PM
Ut oh.. maybe Bush will start bombing Madrid.

RP4ME
11-11-2007, 12:57 AM
good for Spain civil iberties - suprising given that teh EU constitution wont support that!

Electric Church
11-11-2007, 02:14 AM
imagine, throwing someone in jail for expressing their views about a past event.

ChooseLiberty
11-11-2007, 06:08 AM
Congratulations to Spain. They're coming back.

winston84
11-11-2007, 02:41 PM
Looks like a positive step for Spain, but it won't matter once they ratify the EU constitution. From what I remember, Spain had a yes vote. Good for the time being though...

RP4ME
11-11-2007, 02:55 PM
Looks like a positive step for Spain, but it won't matter once they ratify the EU constitution. From what I remember, Spain had a yes vote. Good for the time being though...

Teh Eu constitution will make Europeans slaves under tyrannical rule - no more lections - its insanity - I odnt get whay they arent out in teh streets in protest! Any Eurpeans on here with more insight? Im very curious...I feel like THEY are asleep as much as we are...

Trance Dance Master
11-11-2007, 06:24 PM
Ut oh.. maybe Bush will start bombing Madrid.
Been there, done that.

http://www.vialls.com/myahudi/madrid.html

Trance Dance Master
11-11-2007, 07:35 PM
Video evidence of attempt to discredit the work of historians at De Paul University in Chicago.

http://podblanc.com/node/9406

Background information.



CHICAGO — DePaul University canceled the one remaining class taught by a controversial professor who has accused some Jews of improperly using the legacy of the Holocaust.

Norman Finkelstein, whose work led to a long-running public feud with Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, says he may respond by committing civil disobedience when classes resume Sept. 5.

Finkelstein, 53, was denied tenure in June after six years on the DePaul faculty, but he was permitted to teach for the one year remaining on his contract.

On Friday, however, the university e-mailed students saying that Finkelstein's sole political science course had been canceled. By Monday, the books for the course had been pulled from the DePaul bookstore's shelves.

Finkelstein's most recent book, "Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History," is largely an attack on Dershowitz's "The Case for Israel." In it, Finkelstein argues that Israel uses the outcry over perceived anti-Semitism as a weapon to stifle criticism.

Dershowitz, who threatened to sue Finkelstein's publisher for libel, urged DePaul officials to reject Finkelstein's tenure bid in June.

The American Association of University Professors is preparing a letter to the university protesting Finkelstein's treatment as a serious violation of academic ethics, the Chicago Tribune reported Tuesday.

Finkelstein told the newspaper that he planned to wage his own campaign against the administration.

"I intend to go to my office on the first day of classes and, if my way is barred, to engage in civil disobedience," Finkelstein said. "If arrested, I'll go on a hunger strike. If released, I'll do it all over again. I'll fast in jail for as long as it takes."

After he was denied tenure, Finkelstein, a son of Holocaust survivors, posted a letter on his Web site explaining the school officials' reasons, including Finkelstein's "deliberately hurtful" scholarship along, lack of involvement with the school and tendency for public clashes with other scholars.

"In the opinion of those opposing tenure, your unprofessional personal attacks divert the conversation away from consideration of ideas, and polarize and simplify conversations that deserve layered and subtle consideration," school President Dennis Holtschneider wrote in a letter dated June 8. DePaul at the time verified the letter was authentic.

Denise Mattson, the university's associate vice president for public affairs, released a statement saying Finkelstein was on administrative leave with full pay for the academic year.

"Administrative leave relieves professors from their teaching responsibilities. He was informed of the reasons that precipitated this leave last spring," the statement said.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294902,00.html


imagine, throwing someone in jail for expressing their views about a past event.

Or canceling a professor's class and denying his tenure because he'll allow discussion of controversial issues.

silverhandorder
11-11-2007, 07:42 PM
Plus didn't Spain's King tell Hugo Chavez to shut up when he tried to slander their gov't?