A Pic worth a 1000 Words - Isolationist vs. Non-Interventionist

[Tyler_Durden]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/389874_363246777023908_224171257598128_1679676_766 415129_n.jpg

Posted on Ron Paul Flix facebook page. This should've been done months ago..... :)

[Crotale]

What a pic.

Everyone tweet this and share it on facebook: http://twitpic.com/885ra1

It will only take you two seconds, just follow the link and press the button. Spread this like hell!

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[Christopholes11]

Yes that is awesome. Very nice!

[swissaustrian]

Always nice to see my country used as an example for sound policies :)

[coffeewithchess]

The only way some will see the difference, is if you slap a Fox News logo on it, and put O'Reilly and Hannity's faces on it...

Seriously though, excellent work.

[JJ2]

It needs to make it clear which one Paul is, though! :D

[Tyler_Durden]

Always nice to see my country used as an example for sound policies :)

I would choose to be Swiss, 2nd to being an American. :)

Love y'alls Militia concept......

[Machiavelli]

Yeah but we are AMERICA, we need to protect our assets around the world and maintain a global force of good.:rolleyes:

[Paulitics 2011]

Switzerland describes their policies as isolationist, so we might want to steer clear. It could just be a different cultural definition of the word, but still.

[swissaustrian]

I would choose to be Swiss, 2nd to being an American. :)

Love y'alls Militia concept......
If you guys keep the r3VOLution going, I might envy you for beeing Americans soon.

[swissaustrian]

Switzerland describes their policies as isolationist, so we might want to steer clear. It could just be a different cultural definition of the word, but still.
no we don't. We call it "neutrality"

[Tyler_Durden]

no we don't. We call it "neutrality"

Looks like swiss is correct:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Switzerland


I'm fine with neutral..

[ghengis86]

Awesome!!!

[swissaustrian]

Looks like swiss is correct:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Switzerland


I'm fine with neutral..
The term "neutral" is used in our federal constitution.

Ron Paul also uses "neutrality" as a synonym for "non-interventionism" occasionally

[Gravik]

Very awesome!

[Indiana4Paul]

I like this.

I've tried to paint a different picture in conversation.

Picture our current foreign policy as an arm extended with a flat palm, at the end of the four fingers are Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. At the end of the thumb is Future Threats to the US. We're overextended.

Our Foreign Policy under Ron Paul is an arm cocked and the hand balled up into a fist, its directly pointed out on Future Threats to the US.

[puppetmaster]

tweeted to a couple thousand!!

[tommyzDad]

Tweeted.

[Gravik]

Yeah but we are AMERICA, we need to protect our assets around the world and maintain a global force of good.:rolleyes:
Gotta protect our oil interests too:rolleyes:

[YankeesJunkie]

The only bad thing about Switzerland is compulsory military service, but its not like they are going to war anytime soon so its a wash. Also you get a free gun for life so not a bad deal actually.

[YankeesJunkie]

Gotta protect our oil interests too:rolleyes:

Sadly, we do...by not drilling all the oil and natural gas here in the states thinking that Saudi pollution is so much better.

[rodo1776]

Hey just to stand up for my adopted country Costa Rica. We have no military. We are non intervensionist. We do not intervene in currency trading like Switzerland. No compulsory military service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland

No offense to Switzerland which is a fine country. Just like to set the record straight for any doubts. We actually have 9 libertarian party congress people out of 59 too. How many does Switzerland have?

[ghengis86]

The only bad thing about Switzerland is compulsory military service, but its not like they are going to war anytime soon so its a wash. Also you get a free gun for life so not a bad deal actually.

And free ammo to keep your skills up. Supressors are widely used and accepted, mostly due to safety concerns (hearing protection)

They are a confederation of independent states; I believe the Articles of Confederation were based largely on the Swiss. Much better than the Constitution(al Republic), IMHO.

[YankeesJunkie]

Ehh...I disagree. The Constitution was very important for the preservation of the what we know as the U.S. the 12 years of the Articles of Confederation did not allow the US to really do anything to unify the states is any serious way and and it was more like 13 quarreling countries than 13 members together.

[swissaustrian]

Hey just to stand up for my adopted country Costa Rica. We have no military. We are non intervensionist. We do not intervene in currency trading like Switzerland. No compulsory military service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland

No offense to Switzerland which is a fine country. Just like to set the record straight for any doubts. We actually have 9 libertarian party congress people out of 59 too. How many does Switzerland have?
Well, the currency intervention is a desaster.
The parliament has some libertarian leaning people from different parties (5% of all representatives I would gues), though no party is 100% libertarian.
Military service is compulsory - yes. But it's basicly a free vacation in the Swiss Alps, including a shooting class.

[steph3n]

Switzerland is not totally 'non interventionist' and they are HIGHLY protectionist in trading. they are not the ideal model to follow at all, but I still love the country, been there a couple times and an amazing place, never hassled by their customs, police or anything. Now speeding is dealt with HARSHLY there, something else I dislike :)

[rodo1776]

Sign me up for that free Swiss Alps training program. I will help defend switzerland.

And that buying the Euro program has not turned out too well. Oh well some other country may get burned on a buy the dollar program if we dont get the good doctor in the white house.

[Tyler_Durden]

I'm more Swiss than I am North Korean or post-WWII East Berlin. jussayin..

[swissaustrian]

Switzerland is not totally 'non interventionist' and they are HIGHLY protectionist in trading.
What are you referring to?
The last war we fought was in 1806 and that was an invasion by Napoleon. Do you refer to the Kosovo peacekeeping mission?
We are members of the WTO and have bilateral agreements on trade with the EU. Not that I would endorse that, but that's not highly protectionist imho. At least not more than other developed countries.

[Warmon]

The only bad thing about Switzerland is compulsory military service, but its not like they are going to war anytime soon so its a wash. Also you get a free gun for life so not a bad deal actually.

Hitler was mad man, but he wasn't stupid. When the leader of Switzerland was asked what the country would do if invaded by Germany with an army twice the size of the adult population, he said " we'd shoot twice and then go home'...:eek:

[YankeesJunkie]

Hitler was mad man, but he wasn't stupid. When the leader of Switzerland was asked what the country would do if invaded by Germany with an army twice the size of the adult population, he said " we'd shoot twice and then go home'...:eek:

I am pretty sure that would be nearly impossible to take all of Switzerland without a long long battle seeing that everyone has military training and the protection of the Alps. But I do love the quote.

[KCIndy]

Hitler was mad man, but he wasn't stupid. When the leader of Switzerland was asked what the country would do if invaded by Germany with an army twice the size of the adult population, he said " we'd shoot twice and then go home'...:eek:

LOL! Great quote.

[jemuf]

What a pic.

Everyone tweet this and share it on facebook: http://twitpic.com/885ra1

It will only take you two seconds, just follow the link and press the button. Spread this like hell!

http://twitpic.com/885ra1

What will only take two seconds? I clicked on that link, went to some twitpic site, clicked another link and my current Firefox 3.6 browser (running on XP SP3) with 10 tabs opened...closed. And a new browser opened with one tab saying something like Twitpic wanted to access my twitter profile information.

5 minutes later I have most of the tabs opened that I was looking at and I'm finishing this post.

[swissaustrian]

The warplan against the nazis was to evacuate the whole population into the highlands and leave the lowlands to them. We could've defended the country for a very long time this way.
The real reason Hitler didn't attack was that we traded with him (and with the allies), though. He depended on our weapons industry. Some American corporations also used Switzerland as an intermediary to cloak trading with the enemy (read: Antony Sutton, Wall Street and the rise of Hitler) . That's the honest answer.

[Crotale]

What will only take two seconds? I clicked on that link, went to some twitpic site, clicked another link and my current Firefox 3.6 browser (running on XP SP3) with 10 tabs opened...closed. And a new browser opened with one tab saying something like Twitpic wanted to access my twitter profile information.

5 minutes later I have most of the tabs opened that I was looking at and I'm finishing this post.

Eh?

You just click the link and click the tweet button. I have no idea what is happening on your PC but I'm pretty sure the problem is on your end rather than twitpic. I haven't encountered any issues with it, nor have the other 54 tweeps by the looks of it.

[noxnoctum]

Switzerland is where I'll move if this country continues going south and if I can scrape together enough cash. Easily most beautiful place in the world IMO.

Plus I speak French decently (used to be fluent but lost a lot) and since the are French speaking parts of the country it'd be perfect :)

[fmarz1]

http://natna.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/democracy-will-come-to-you.jpg

what the other canidates stand for....

[steph3n]

What are you referring to?
The last war we fought was in 1806 and that was an invasion by Napoleon. Do you refer to the Kosovo peacekeeping mission?
We are members of the WTO and have bilateral agreements on trade with the EU. Not that I would endorse that, but that's not highly protectionist imho. At least not more than other developed countries.

I meant what I said, it is more than non-intervention, it is isolation with protectionism policies for agriculture and many other sectors.

[SaulPaulinsky]

Hey just to stand up for my adopted country Costa Rica. We have no military. We are non intervensionist. We do not intervene in currency trading like Switzerland. No compulsory military service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland

No offense to Switzerland which is a fine country. Just like to set the record straight for any doubts. We actually have 9 libertarian party congress people out of 59 too. How many does Switzerland have?

Have considered Costa Rica as a landing spot in case this whole liberty thing really hits the skids. Seems like a nice place, reasonably developed and cheap living. Nice weather, nice looking women! :) Do I have any of this wrong?

[SaulPaulinsky]

Switzerland is not totally 'non interventionist' and they are HIGHLY protectionist in trading. they are not the ideal model to follow at all, but I still love the country, been there a couple times and an amazing place, never hassled by their customs, police or anything. Now speeding is dealt with HARSHLY there, something else I dislike :)

Serious question, not leading you into anything I promise.

But what would be the ideal model to follow, in your opinion?

[steph3n]

Serious question, not leading you into anything I promise.

But what would be the ideal model to follow, in your opinion?

Open trade, open borders, open currency :D

I've moved from social conservative to libertarian to....minarchist in the time from 2007. But still, I like Switzerland, but their protectionism makes some insane pricing back at home. I go there and stand in awe at the pricing of herbs, spices, and fruits and veggies, and then have to wonder why all the milk is 'biodrink' UHT crap instead of real milk :)

Much of this is due to protectionist policies limiting the imports in agricultural markets, and I don't like that model at all

[Eric21ND]

There's snipers in those Swiss mountains.

[reagle]

added to reddit
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