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Man from La Mancha
11-10-2007, 07:47 PM
http://wilmington.johnlocke.org/blog/?p=811

Founder of Weather Channel SLAMS Bogus Global Warming
Posted November 8th, 2007 at 12:58 PM by Chad Adams
When the guy that created the weather channel (John Coleman) speaks out, he doesn’t leave much to the imagination. Here is some of his writing verbatim from Icecap:

It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment.

He goes on to say, “I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend.”
Radicals in the Church of Global Warming aren’t unlike those of the Dark Ages who thought Galileo a heretic for pointing out that the earth revolved around the sun!


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Hope
11-10-2007, 07:49 PM
Is he an environmental physicist? No. Should anyone really care what he says about global warming? Of course not.

james1844
11-10-2007, 08:37 PM
The NSF has reviewed the evidence and concluded that global warming is real and that human activity is a significant cause.

pcosmar
11-10-2007, 08:39 PM
Is he an environmental physicist? No. Should anyone really care what he says about global warming? Of course not.

Are You?
Show me 1000 years of global statistics, chart the highs and lows, the normal cycles of heating and cooling. Then we will see where the last 100 years stands.
In other words, Show me proof. Facts.
Not FUD!!!
No Data. NO Facts.
STFU

RP4ME
11-10-2007, 08:40 PM
look do we have a risk of terrorism - yes but is it way overblown and hyped yes


so, dont fall for the other scare tactic please...use some discernmnet - doesnt mean the earth isnt heating up, but it may or may not be for teh reasons TPTB say or it may be only a percentage.......

pcosmar
11-10-2007, 08:47 PM
THE SKY IS FALLING,,THE SKY IS FALLING..

http://www.claybennett.com/images/archivetoons/chicken_little.jpg

It hit me on the head. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES.

FunkBuddha
11-10-2007, 08:53 PM
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-09-2006/0004471126&EDATE

I bought into this global warming crap for years... After I heard NASA say that the numbers the scientists used for climate models were inaccurate to a y2k bug in their algorithm I started looking into it more.

I mean, come on, Al Gore owns a company that sells carbon credits and he's raking in billions from it.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54528

Are people incapable of thinking objectively anymore?

Don't get me wrong, I think we should be good stewards of Earth and do our best to cut back on pollution, but this global warming shit is a scam.

Electric Church
11-10-2007, 10:44 PM
they're scammin us from all angles. need more time to expose these bastards

sparebulb
11-10-2007, 11:03 PM
Does global warming exist?

Of course it does, you can go up to the north slope of Alaska and dig up a fossil of a tropical plant as well as a billion barrels of oil formed from tropical forests.

I'm sure that the former residents of the north slope were worried far more about global cooler than global warming.

Also, that hack, Heidie Cullen, from the Weather Channel is considered their climate specialist. She is well qualified with her masters degree in near east religions.

Fox McCloud
11-10-2007, 11:54 PM
Global Warming is one of the two ideologies that is championed by the elite of this world.

One side believes that perpetual war is the the proper way to usher in a one world government....plus it has the added benefit of slaughter off millions of people in the process (something else they enjoy).

Global warming on the other hand....if they can get everyone to unite against it, then they can strip them of many beneficial substances/chemicals/inventions that are "damaging to the environment".....no doubt civil liberties would be destroyed in the process too ("sorry sir, you have too many cows, they contribute too much to global warming").

I personally think the vast majority support the war ideology simply for it's added bonus of killing people and certain shock value (after all, if they can instigate a global war, they can come up with a global plan for "peace" under a single all powerful world government...it'd be harder to attain a one world government under the guise of Global Warming).

As someone pointed out here.

Global Warming is for the liberals.

Terrorism is for the conservatives.

fluoridatedbrainsoup
11-11-2007, 12:43 AM
The Great Global Warming Swindle, 1 hr. 16 minutes
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-31944410825346433&q=global+warming+swindle&total=198&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8

RP4ME
11-11-2007, 12:52 AM
they're scammin us from all angles. need more time to expose these bastards

exactly...fillin up the ol coffers

RP4ME
11-11-2007, 12:53 AM
Global Warming is one of the two ideologies that is championed by the elite of this world.

One side believes that perpetual war is the the proper way to usher in a one world government....plus it has the added benefit of slaughter off millions of people in the process (something else they enjoy).

Global warming on the other hand....if they can get everyone to unite against it, then they can strip them of many beneficial substances/chemicals/inventions that are "damaging to the environment".....no doubt civil liberties would be destroyed in the process too ("sorry sir, you have too many cows, they contribute too much to global warming").

I personally think the vast majority support the war ideology simply for it's added bonus of killing people and certain shock value (after all, if they can instigate a global war, they can come up with a global plan for "peace" under a single all powerful world government...it'd be harder to attain a one world government under the guise of Global Warming).

As someone pointed out here.

Global Warming is for the liberals.

Terrorism is for the conservatives.

perfectly explained!

Hope
11-11-2007, 12:57 AM
I love how my comment just flew over people's heads. I don't have to be an enviro physicist because I'm not giving the media my two cents as if I know what the hell I'm talking about. My opinion is worth the same or more than a weather anchorman's. It's the actual scientists who have specialized in these fields whose conclusions matter.

Electric Church
11-11-2007, 01:56 AM
It's the actual scientists who have specialized in these fields whose conclusions matter.



The consensus of 2,500 scientists claimed by the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is not true.

The IPCC is political like other UN bodies where final conclusions are politically driven. If you look at the bibliographies of the people in the IPCC there are a lot of non-scientists. To build the number up to 2,500 they take reviewers, and government officials and anyone close to them and none of them are asked to agree and many disagree.

The specialists who do not agree with the polemic they simply get put on the author list anyway and become part of this 2,500 of the world’s top scientists. Scientist who want to get their names removed from these reports have to threaten IPCC with legal action so many don't go through all the trouble.

Also many scientists have a hard time getting research proposals funded who speak out against man made global warming so very few scientists take a public stand because it cuts into their research funding.

ChooseLiberty
11-11-2007, 05:56 AM
Pretty sure global temperature increases are documented in several prestigious, peer reviewed scientific journals as well as the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

I'd say the debate isn't about "global warming" but what is the proximate cause of the temperature increases or whether it can even be averted.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Fox McCloud
11-11-2007, 08:13 AM
Pretty sure global temperature increases are documented in several prestigious, peer reviewed scientific journals as well as the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

I'd say the debate isn't about "global warming" but what is the proximate cause of the temperature increases or whether it can even be averted.

The cause of global warming is purely the sun; it's become much more active since the the 1900's....and the carbon dioxide? It's chiefly produced by animals and the ocean (ocean being the absolute largest factor). When the sun causes "global warming", it causes an increase of carbon dioxide.

Of course, this is a good thing; with more carbon dioxide, plants grow faster, fuller, and become stronger....thus providing more food for people, more reusable fuel, and more shelter.

I encourage anyone and everyone to watch the video provided in fluoridatedbrainsoup's post; it's an excellent source of information on global warming.


Not everything is a conspiracy.

you'd really be surprised if you closely examine/research a lot of things....

PatriotG
11-11-2007, 08:30 AM
http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p1845.htm

Check Out the signatures.....


PatriotG

JenaS62
11-11-2007, 09:15 AM
The NSF has reviewed the evidence and concluded that global warming is real and that human activity is a significant cause.



The ice caps on Mars and Jupiter as well as ice moons of Saturn are melting too. Are humans causing that as well?

Electric Church
11-11-2007, 04:00 PM
Should be more concerned about the stuff that's billowing out of these military and unmarked aircraft not the stuff that we all exhale. There are foreign substances that have been found that shouldn’t be there. Stuff like: Barium, Potassium, Calcium, Aluminum, Bacteria’s and Pathogens (by definition is an infectious biological agent that causes illness in a host).

The chemistry of the burning of Kerosene (aircraft fuel) classed as a “Hydrocarbon”. main compounds that form when burned are:

Carbon Dioxide (the infamous “greenhouse gas”, which we all breathe out)

Sulphur Dioxide (in small quantities – a toxic, greenhouse gas, which mixes with water to form acid rain – sulphurous and sulphuric acid)

Carbon Monoxide – a toxic, flammable gas, responsible for some deaths which happen when gas heating equipment is faulty

Water (That stuff we drink)

Each of these compounds are all colorless. So, when kerosene burns the only visible thing we should see in the sky is the condensation (water) resulting from the temperature difference between the exhausts and the outside air, which disappears shortly.

In short: The bastards are poisoning us and they want to rob us at the same time through a carbon tax.

fluoridatedbrainsoup
11-11-2007, 04:06 PM
Should be more concerned about the stuff that's billowing out of these military and unmarked aircraft not the stuff that we all exhale. There are foreign substances that have been found that shouldn’t be there. Stuff like: Barium, Potassium, Calcium, Aluminum, Bacteria’s and Pathogens (by definition is an infectious biological agent that causes illness in a host).

The chemistry of the burning of Kerosene (aircraft fuel) classed as a “Hydrocarbon”. main compounds that form when burned are:

Carbon Dioxide (the infamous “greenhouse gas”, which we all breathe out)

Sulphur Dioxide (in small quantities – a toxic, greenhouse gas, which mixes with water to form acid rain – sulphurous and sulphuric acid)

Carbon Monoxide – a toxic, flammable gas, responsible for some deaths which happen when gas heating equipment is faulty

Water (That stuff we drink)

Each of these compounds are all colorless. So, when kerosene burns the only visible thing we should see in the sky is the condensation (water) resulting from the temperature difference between the exhausts and the outside air, which disappears shortly.

In short: The bastards are poisoning us and they want to rob us at the same time through a carbon tax.
They're always white, unmarked planes. Heard somewhere that they could actually belong to the U.N. ...
But you can't look into that without looking into Morgellons, nano-engineered lifeforms never seen before, very interesting stuff:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCBtriKq708

Electric Church
11-11-2007, 05:13 PM
They're always white, unmarked planes. Heard somewhere that they could actually belong to the U.N. ...
But you can't look into that without looking into Morgellons, nano-engineered lifeforms never seen before, very interesting stuff:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCBtriKq708

Ya I seen that before.... thanks for the link... that's pretty creepy stuff

BuddyRey
11-11-2007, 05:48 PM
If anybody could direct me to a secular, reason-based debunking of global warming, I'd appreciate it. So far, the only global warming denial studies I've ever seen have been financed or conducted by Evangelical Christians, many of whom think the idea of the world perishing in a ball of flames is just dandy.

pcosmar
11-11-2007, 05:58 PM
If anybody could direct me to a secular, reason-based debunking of global warming, I'd appreciate it. So far, the only global warming denial studies I've ever seen have been financed or conducted by Evangelical Christians, many of whom think the idea of the world perishing in a ball of flames is just dandy.

I would love to see a documented study of the last 1000 to 2000 years of climate research. The heating and cooling cycles and how the last 100 years affect change.
Till then...

And something NOT funded by a global socialist organization.

constituent
11-11-2007, 06:00 PM
If anybody could direct me to a secular, reason-based debunking of global warming, I'd appreciate it. So far, the only global warming denial studies I've ever seen have been financed or conducted by Evangelical Christians, many of whom think the idea of the world perishing in a ball of flames is just dandy.

it's as simple as this:

earth is a reaction vessel. adding, subtracting, mixing, day in and day out ;) [.]

There are many contributors to climate changes throughout history, some are even more dangerous than global warming (see drought). Many gases and substances in the atmosphere can cause changes in ph, changes in density, changes in everything that can result in all sorts of changes here on the floor, then more change, and then some change, and a little more change which causes a few more changes to kick off....

it's too big, but really not at all.... funny thing.

If Co2 emissions are the real problem then what are the real solutions, and prove to me that those solutions are actually going to work. Don't expect a world of changes to come (at the expense of many of those who can afford it the least) w/out first proving that you can, with the measures you propose, significantly alter the course of atmospheric changes for the better.

That's my issue with "global warming" and I'm not a christian, and also found An Inconvenient Truth to be pretty entertaining.