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RonPaulFanInGA
01-15-2012, 08:23 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/ppppolls/status/158735768867708928


2nd choice of Huntsman supporters in South Carolina: Romney 38, Paul 19, Perry/Gingrich 8

Varin
01-15-2012, 08:25 PM
Yeah but he was polling at 1%, less than Colbert.

mavtek
01-15-2012, 08:26 PM
That's not surprising to me, but I just wish they'd realize that he's dead in the water. The good news there is that he's taking from Romney at a higher clip, the problem is how many of them will go to the polls and switch to Mittens when it's time to vote.

kylejack
01-15-2012, 08:27 PM
Yeah but he was polling at 1%, less than Colbert.
5%

wgadget
01-15-2012, 08:27 PM
Huntsman is quitting the race, thus the post.

mstrmac1
01-15-2012, 08:28 PM
Thats like... 27 votes ! Yippeeeeeeeee!

wgadget
01-15-2012, 08:29 PM
Every little bit helps!!! : )

nowwearefree
01-15-2012, 08:29 PM
i think its good news for us, people that vote for Hunstman either vote for Romney or us, and im fine with Mitt winning first and us coming second
so all in all, very good news

I kind of like Huntsman, meaning i dun hate him, although i am not sure where he stands on most issues
but he seems like a normal guy if u compare him with herman cain, rick santorum , rick perry, bachman etc

low preference guy
01-15-2012, 08:30 PM
so we'll improve 0.19%?

GraspingForPeace
01-15-2012, 08:31 PM
so we'll improve 0.19%?

Theoretically, we could get a bump of about 1% if 19% of Huntsman voters go to Paul.

P3ter_Griffin
01-15-2012, 08:31 PM
20% of 5% should give us a pretty 1%.

kylejack
01-15-2012, 08:33 PM
5% * 19% = 0.95, so we gain roughly one percent in the PPP South Carolina polls.

New numbers: Romney ~30.5% Gingrich 24.4% Paul 16% Santorum 14% Perry 6.4% Roemer 1%

PauliticsPolitics
01-15-2012, 08:36 PM
Yea.
We might go +1% in SC from the Huntsman drop.
Romney might get +2% out of it.
These sort of changes are negligible.
It won't be noticeable given margin of error, and more importantly, the fluidity of the race.
In the end, Huntsman and his numbers are truly negligible.

Bye Jon.

economics102
01-15-2012, 08:36 PM
Yeah but he was polling at 1%, less than Colbert.

Yes but another poll showed Huntsman was the second choice of 40% of Colbert supporters. So it's more like 7% in total once Colbert inevitably drops out and belatedly endorses Huntsman.

economics102
01-15-2012, 08:38 PM
We don't need to beat Romney in SC, we just need to finish 2nd. So the fact that more of Huntsman's non-Romney support goes to us than any other candidate is very good news even if this is ultimately a drop in the bucket -- it's still a good drop in the bucket.

jersdream
01-15-2012, 09:17 PM
We just lost another point on Mittens. I'm sick to my stomach.

Warrior_of_Freedom
01-15-2012, 09:18 PM
So what is that, 15 votes?

lucent
01-15-2012, 09:21 PM
Yes but another poll showed Huntsman was the second choice of 40% of Colbert supporters. So it's more like 7% in total once Colbert inevitably drops out and belatedly endorses Huntsman.

Colbert was never in it to begin with.

seawolf
01-15-2012, 09:25 PM
We need a Welcoming Thread for the Huntsman Supporters who will be looking for a new home, especially those in South Carolina and Florida.

Feelgood
01-15-2012, 09:33 PM
5%

5% in SC, 1% nationally. So it would be of 1%

thoughtomator
01-15-2012, 09:39 PM
19% = 1 in 5 which means it's a wash with 5 candidates left unless one of the others gains them disproportionately

kylejack
01-15-2012, 09:46 PM
5% in SC, 1% nationally. So it would be of 1%
No, the OP of the thread is about the PPP SC poll, not a national poll, which is irrelevant anyway.

Mithridates
01-15-2012, 10:09 PM
1% can make a big difference in a primary. In New Hampshire for example we had:

Santorum 23,362
Gingrich 23,291

Difference -- 71 votes, or about 3% of a single percentage point.

And then there was first place in Iowa too between Romney and Santorum. Paul hasn't had any nailbitingly close results but there could easily be one in SC or another upcoming state.

economics102
01-15-2012, 10:14 PM
Colbert was never in it to begin with.

Colbert is dry-running a national campaign, his SC supporters are very active.

Mickeys
01-15-2012, 10:26 PM
Considering ther are really only 5 other choices, wouldn't 20% be the AVERAGE...so anything under that is bad news? Actually..I am not asking, i am telling. All that means that is Romney will get helped out much more than Paul, and that is pretty bad news seeing as Romney is already the clear front runer right now.

orenbus
01-15-2012, 10:31 PM
You guys are forgetting that the difference in votes in Iowa was pretty slim, and it's not just the votes it's the social influence that comes with them. There will be many smaller states where a 1% or 2% will make a major difference, why diminish any number of votes when we can use them all? Come on guys, think about this, seriously.

jersdream
01-15-2012, 10:31 PM
He was at 6% in the Insider Advantage poll released today....

kylejack
01-15-2012, 10:32 PM
Considering ther are really only 5 other choices, wouldn't 20% be the AVERAGE...so anything under that is bad news? Actually..I am not asking, i am telling. All that means that is Romney will get helped out much more than Paul, and that is pretty bad news seeing as Romney is already the clear front runer right now.
Yes, Romney is helped more than us, but other candidates are helped far less than us. And remember, our strategy is to wipe them out and then go for the King.

WIwarrior
01-15-2012, 10:36 PM
lets worry about what we can control. Seriously, people are going to drop out.

tennman
01-15-2012, 11:29 PM
And then there were 5. I wonder when Perry will drop out.

Duckman
01-15-2012, 11:31 PM
This is good news... we will get a 1% bump in SC right away, plus the bump from the Davis endorsement and the next debate (where we will have more time because Huntsman is gone).

Duckman
01-15-2012, 11:31 PM
And then there were 5. I wonder when Perry will drop out.

Right after SC.

european
01-15-2012, 11:32 PM
Romney gains most out of this well timed dropping out: Exactly the day that Ron Paul gets his Tom Davis endorsement, so you know what the headlines will say today and tomorrow and what will be mentioned only at the sideline.

Or am I saying something strange?

misterx
01-16-2012, 12:06 AM
So that makes what, about three more votes for Paul?

ghengis86
01-16-2012, 12:17 AM
Romney gains most out of this well timed dropping out: Exactly the day that Ron Paul gets his Tom Davis endorsement, so you know what the headlines will say today and tomorrow and what will be mentioned only at the sideline.

Or am I saying something strange?

No, it's par for the course. Romney and his power brokers have plenty of cards in their hand to counter our campaigns moves. It's going to be a long fight and the politics will be brutal and cerebra on both sides. Obviously I think the RP camp has the only real strategy at knocking Mitt off, but it's not like Mitt will fall asleep like the hare to our tortoise.
He knows we are very dangerous so the pressure will be immense.

We'll still get our broadsides in...we just have to weather the same.

ghengis86
01-16-2012, 12:20 AM
Right after SC.

If Perry can't crack the top three, maybe even win it, he's packing it in. SC was supposed to be his stronghold. Looks like it will be his final resting place.

Dsylexic
01-16-2012, 12:24 AM
what are the numbers for Perry supporters' second choice being Paul?

axlr
01-16-2012, 12:24 AM
I'm just really bothered by him endorsing Romney. He just slammed Romney in that last debate, and now he goes out and endorses him? This is like Bachmann, or Gingrich, or Perry endorsing Paul.